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(KHOU Houston)   Texas A&M shooter preferred violent video games over working; is this finally the time for reasonable limits on video game violence and background checks on purchasers?   (khou.com) divider line 223
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2012-08-14 08:12:21 AM  
It just say he didn't live in reality. Maybe he was playing a lot of Animal Crossing and thought the real life eviction notice was from Tom Nook.
 
2012-08-14 08:14:50 AM  
Texas A&M shooter preferred violent video games over working; is this finally the time for reasonable limits on video game violence and background checks on purchasers?

I prefer violent video games (hell, any video game really) to work and I haven't shot anyone, so I'd say no to both. Just because a few go off the deep end doesn't mean we all will.

Look into their background far enough and there will be another reason for their behavior, not just violent games.
 
2012-08-14 08:18:35 AM  
Given the number of people who play violent video games, I would say that violent video games have a pretty good murdering psycho to non-murdering psycho ratio.
 
2012-08-14 08:23:15 AM  
I knew those video game manufacturers were putting mind-control programming in their products! This proves it!
 
2012-08-14 08:23:34 AM  
Caffall refused to work after apparently quitting his job less than a year ago, his stepfather Richard Weaver said. He said Caffall, 35, regularly played video games

Meh, just another loser. Too bad he had to try to take others out because of his pitiful existence. Good riddance.
 
2012-08-14 08:24:52 AM  
Wait, background checks on purchasers of guns or purchasers of video games?

/I'm OK with either
 
2012-08-14 08:27:22 AM  

gopher321: I knew those video game manufacturers were putting mind-control programming in their products! This proves it!


Reminds me of the Bill Hicks bit about heavy metal bands sitting around and saying, "we're tired of all this money and pussy. Let's put subliminal messages in our music to make our fans kill themselves!".
 
2012-08-14 08:31:41 AM  
I use to play a ton of fps games, primarily WWII themed ones. I have never had the urge to shoot anyone........except for Germans and Japanese.......and maybe Italians.
 
2012-08-14 08:33:57 AM  
We had this discussion 13 years ago. The consensus then was that video games weren't the problem. Since then, video games have gotten more violent and more realistic and just as popular, if not more so, and the homicide rate has fallen from 6.05 per 100,000 in 1999 to 4.8 per 100,000 in 2010, a reduction of over 20%.

The evidence is pretty clear that it ain't the video games.
 
2012-08-14 08:35:39 AM  

czetie: Wait, background checks on purchasers of guns or purchasers of video games?

/I'm OK with either


You appear to be missing an "n".
 
2012-08-14 08:35:56 AM  
How about we just stop letting mentally unstable people buy guns?
 
2012-08-14 08:37:57 AM  
Absolutely.

Why should someone be able to just walk into a store and buy a murder simulator? The only point of those is to train people to be better killers. They desensitize them to killing, and make them better shots with guns. There should be a background check and waiting list before someone is allowed to purchase one.
 
2012-08-14 08:38:39 AM  
I say we ban living with your parents after the age of....30.

/sorry newly homeless farkers
 
2012-08-14 08:38:52 AM  

czetie: Wait, background checks on purchasers of guns or purchasers of video games?

/I'm OK with either


So you would be OK with background checks at the library bookstore, movie theater, and required background checks for magazine subscriptions cable TV service and any other media delivery service?

That sounds like a terrible idea.
 
2012-08-14 08:46:24 AM  

Aarontology: Absolutely.

Why should someone be able to just walk into a store and buy a murder simulator? The only point of those is to train people to be better killers. They desensitize them to killing, and make them better shots with guns. There should be a background check and waiting list before someone is allowed to purchase one.


Too obvious.
 
2012-08-14 08:54:24 AM  

Aarontology: Absolutely.

Why should someone be able to just walk into a store and buy a murder simulator? The only point of those is to train people to be better killers. They desensitize them to killing, and make them better shots with guns. There should be a background check and waiting list before someone is allowed to purchase one.


Another awesome person who thinks TSA is a pretty good idea.

Here's the thing.

1) Murder rate has been dropping, as many have pointed out, during the same time span that videogames have gotten more violent and realistic.

2) A "murder simulator" as you so eloquently put it still requires a human being to commit a crime, murder, at the other end. Our justice system is based on moral choices, not on blindly following training.

3) 99.9999% of the owners / players of these games do not commit murder, yet you would penalize them in hopes your new background check thing would prevent someone somewhere (by what? proving they can't buy a game? They'd just download it, torrent it, steal someone's you name it).

To sum up: you are a dumbass, you have no idea what you're talking about, but you are willing to deprive non law breaking people the right to buy a videogame because you think in your little concerned heart that if you put in some sort of intrusive background check, it will prevent a psycho who wants to kill people from buying a game.

You cite no evidence your plan is going to help, and you cite no over all proof we need help, but you have this "feeling" that "we need to do something."

DO GOODERS ARE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM THEY THINK THEY'RE ADDRESSING.

Do gooders punish the law abiding so their own paranoia may be satiated, and their own need to feel like they "made a difference" is met.

I would say "typical liberal douchebag" but there's plenty of do-gooders in all political walks of life. It seems to be endemic in society any time someone other than you does something legal that you don't agree with, you want to ban or impede it because ... extreme outlier example that got into the media.


I hate do gooders. You should be banned from posting, or required to take a year of logic and critical thinking, then take a test that you would be required to pass before you are allowed to participate in this part of a civilized society.

See what I did there? Applied my arbitrary morality to your dumb ass. Citing more justification for it than you did to want to ban or background check videogames. Proposing a wildly unenforcable solution based on nothing more than my own need to feel superior.

Worked too. I'm pretty awesome.
 
2012-08-14 08:57:06 AM  

Aarontology: Why should someone be able to just walk into a store and buy a murder simulator?


Somebody's been reading Grossman. Too bad all the evidence over the last decade and a half shows that he was wrong about video games.
 
2012-08-14 09:05:36 AM  
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Generation_D: holy cow


Nice job Aarontology. Reeled in a winner today.
 
2012-08-14 09:05:59 AM  

dittybopper: Aarontology: Why should someone be able to just walk into a store and buy a murder simulator?

Somebody's been reading Grossman. Too bad all the evidence over the last decade and a half shows that he was wrong about video games.


In addition, his other conclusions and the data they are based upon have also been questioned recently.
 
2012-08-14 09:39:22 AM  
I for one will not stand idly by and watch our innocent schoolchildren get harmed in these seemingly endless mass fatal beatings with pointy N-64 cartridges.
 
2012-08-14 09:52:19 AM  
Caffall's stepfather told KHOU 11 News Reporter Drew Karedes over the telephone that he was worried his stepson was going to snap and said it was only a matter of when. When asked if the family ever brought the concerns to authorities he answered no.

Maybe we should do something about the state of our mental health services.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-14 10:06:20 AM  

Vodka Zombie: How about we just stop letting mentally unstable people buy guns?


Yep. We just need mandatory government psychological evaluations for everyone when they turn 18.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-14 10:11:05 AM  

Tigger: I for one will not stand idly by and watch our innocent schoolchildren get harmed in these seemingly endless mass fatal beatings with pointy N-64 cartridges.


I wonder if the pointy N-64 cartridges might keep people from pointy 7.62x39 cartridges.
 
2012-08-14 10:16:06 AM  
I don't think it's proper to call this guy a shooter. I mean, yeah, literally, he shot people. But, when I think of the word "shooter" as it defines people it means someone who took a gun or two, went somewhere and just started shooting random people. This guy was served an eviction notice and shot the cop and the landlord.
 
2012-08-14 10:20:44 AM  
I'm going to be picking up Darksiders II after work.

So obviously tomorrow, I will be running through the streets on my horse with two massive scythes slicing everything I can see.

I can't wait!
 
2012-08-14 10:32:44 AM  
I swear to all things holy that if I don't beat this final level in Peggle, I'm gonna shank a b*tch.
 
2012-08-14 10:44:19 AM  

Aarontology: Absolutely.

Why should someone be able to just walk into a store and buy a murder simulator? The only point of those is to train people to be better killers.



I wonder if porn simulators have a similar effect.


/Not that I've ever seen a porn simulator...(cough)
 
2012-08-14 10:44:21 AM  
The guy was evicted from his apartment. I think we need stricter eviction control.
 
2012-08-14 10:45:41 AM  
Now is not the time to have a discussion about gun control.
 
2012-08-14 10:46:16 AM  
Yes of course. We need to know what foods he ate so we can band those. What color did he like? Ban that. Every single brand of product he used, MUST be banned.
 
2012-08-14 10:47:26 AM  

Aarontology: Absolutely.

Why should someone be able to just walk into a store and buy a murder simulator? The only point of those is to train people to be better killers. They desensitize them to killing, and make them better shots with guns. There should be a background check and waiting list before someone is allowed to purchase one.


Certainty explains my Tetris obsession and my current career in bricklaying.
 
2012-08-14 10:47:41 AM  
A Czech gun mentioned in the article. Must have been a CZ. Wonder if it was a 75.
 
2012-08-14 10:48:12 AM  
No more so than reasonable limits on violent movies. Oh wait, we adults can watch those too...crap we can also watch violent TV shows!!!

It's the plague!!! The plague I tell you!!!
 
2012-08-14 10:48:50 AM  

Generation_D: Aarontology: Absolutely.

Why should someone be able to just walk into a store and buy a murder simulator? The only point of those is to train people to be better killers. They desensitize them to killing, and make them better shots with guns. There should be a background check and waiting list before someone is allowed to purchase one.

Another awesome person who thinks TSA is a pretty good idea.

Here's the thing.

1) Murder rate has been dropping, as many have pointed out, during the same time span that videogames have gotten more violent and realistic.

2) A "murder simulator" as you so eloquently put it still requires a human being to commit a crime, murder, at the other end. Our justice system is based on moral choices, not on blindly following training.

3) 99.9999% of the owners / players of these games do not commit murder, yet you would penalize them in hopes your new background check thing would prevent someone somewhere (by what? proving they can't buy a game? They'd just download it, torrent it, steal someone's you name it).

To sum up: you are a dumbass, you have no idea what you're talking about, but you are willing to deprive non law breaking people the right to buy a videogame because you think in your little concerned heart that if you put in some sort of intrusive background check, it will prevent a psycho who wants to kill people from buying a game.

You cite no evidence your plan is going to help, and you cite no over all proof we need help, but you have this "feeling" that "we need to do something."

DO GOODERS ARE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM THEY THINK THEY'RE ADDRESSING.

Do gooders punish the law abiding so their own paranoia may be satiated, and their own need to feel like they "made a difference" is met.

I would say "typical liberal douchebag" but there's plenty of do-gooders in all political walks of life. It seems to be endemic in society any time someone other than you does something legal that you don't agree with, you want to ban or i ...


what you did there was get hooked.
 
2012-08-14 10:49:23 AM  
The guy obviously thought his whole plan through: Kill the first police officer who tries to evict you and BLAM, free house! Yeah, if anything, video game playing should give you some critical thinking skills.
 
2012-08-14 10:49:37 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: Yes of course. We need to know what foods he ate so we can band those. What color did he like? Ban that. Every single brand of product he used, MUST be banned.


Eh, why not? That's essentially the argument put forth by the gun grabbers right here on Fark.
 
2012-08-14 10:49:57 AM  
His facebook also said he supported Michelle Bachmann for president.

I'm not sure video games were his real problem.
 
2012-08-14 10:50:19 AM  
How about we lay the responsibility squarely on the shoulders if this particular tool?
 
2012-08-14 10:51:05 AM  

Generation_D: Aarontology: Absolutely.

Why should someone be able to just walk into a store and buy a murder simulator? The only point of those is to train people to be better killers. They desensitize them to killing, and make them better shots with guns. There should be a background check and waiting list before someone is allowed to purchase one.

Another awesome person who thinks TSA is a pretty good idea.

Here's the thing.

[snip]


So trolled.
 
2012-08-14 10:51:13 AM  
Aren't video games bigger than hollywood these days? Do we really want to start destroying one of the few profitable industries we have left?
 
2012-08-14 10:51:43 AM  
I play RTS games. My legion of minions will overrun your base after my snipers disrupt your resource gathering. I will be nowhere near the carnage.
 
2012-08-14 10:52:10 AM  
If Obama had made him buy paycheck insurance, he wouldn't have missed his rent and gotten the eviction notice to begin with.
 
2012-08-14 10:52:25 AM  
He played Angry Birds until he became an Angry Bird.
 
2012-08-14 10:52:44 AM  
Video games are the root of all evil in history.

Remember Hitler? His favorite game was Pokejew, gotta catch em all

/or gas em all, don't know which edition he had
 
2012-08-14 10:53:43 AM  
The dude was being served an eviction notice. I blame the 1%'ers with their fancy rent and what not. Everyone should be entitled to a free place to live. Then we can background check them when they want to buy games.
 
2012-08-14 10:53:54 AM  
Out of respect for the victims, this is just not the time to talk about restrictions on violent video games.
 
2012-08-14 10:53:58 AM  
The trolling attempts in this thread make me feel like I just woke up in 2000 again. Wow.

/CS:GO Beta starts tonight, I need to work on my murderin'
//or would it be more acceptable to kill robots in TF2 come Wednesday?
 
2012-08-14 10:54:25 AM  
Im just so unbelieveably GLAD that all those upstanding, armed Texans were able to prevent this nutbag from going wild with his automatic assault rifle which he clearly needed for a plethora of reasons, none of which include shooting at another human being.

Assault weapons discussion needs to start up... again.
 
2012-08-14 10:55:23 AM  
We need background checks to include interviews with neighbors, family members, and employers.
 
2012-08-14 10:56:06 AM  
I just wish people took mental illness seriously. His own family knew he was a whackadoodle and did nothing.

Forget about video game control. We need to get real about dealing with the mentally ill among us.
 
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