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2012-08-14 09:57:31 AM
Surely they can hide and deny the debt for at least a dozen years.
 
2012-08-14 09:57:45 AM

Pochas: Penn State raised 7 million dollars last year for children with cancer, they raise a similar amount of money every year.

Research is carried out there to create novel methods of treating all manner of diseases.

Example : http://live.psu.edu/story/55260

They also do research for renewable energy, fundamental science, space exploration.

I think there ought to be some punishment for what Sandusky did, but consider how many people, and which people, are really being punished if the school is shut down.


As far as this thread is concerned, they're all kid-rapists by association. The janitors, the international students, the scientists (those white-tower elitists), the food staff, the freshmen who are just now moving into the dorms, they're guilty too. So is all of central PA. Hell, the Big 10 have their hands dirty as well, burn everything!

CLEANSE IT IN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR!

/starting to get into WH40K, sorry
 
2012-08-14 09:57:58 AM

brobdiggy: Accreditation is an academic thing. Many times, it is living up to a standard and proving that, academically, you are successfully doing what you claim to be doing, which is educating.

As horrible as the recent PSU situation is, it does NOT warrant losing accreditation.

Based on recently discovered events, if ANY school deserves to lose accreditation, it's this one:

[eaglgymnastics.com image 297x240]

Short story of UNC:
Sham classes were offered to athletes who received high grades on transcripts, raising their grades so they could remain eligible.
What do I mean by sham? The classes didn't have assignments, and didn't even MEET.

This means that UNC was actually playing ineligible players, but the NCAA so far hasn't said anything about the case, and most likely won't. The case will just be quickly forgotten, and the knee-jerk reactionists and media can continue their cry for PSU to be burned down.


High grades? Apparently Julius Peppers had a D+ in black studies or Swahili or some shiat.
 
2012-08-14 09:59:33 AM

liam76: Let me be up front about this. I am fine with crucifying the PSU admins who had a hand in this, but if you don't see the similiarities between PSU and a school that allows someone who has been convicted of inapropriate relations with kids to go to Thailand on their dime with no supervision, you r head is buried it he sand.


Yeah, I missed the no supervision part. There should be an investigation to see who knew what about that, and if they knew he was actually doing something.
 
2012-08-14 10:00:03 AM

brobdiggy: Accreditation is an academic thing. Many times, it is living up to a standard and proving that, academically, you are successfully doing what you claim to be doing, which is educating.

As horrible as the recent PSU situation is, it does NOT warrant losing accreditation.

Based on recently discovered events, if ANY school deserves to lose accreditation, it's this one:

[eaglgymnastics.com image 297x240]

Short story of UNC:
Sham classes were offered to athletes who received high grades on transcripts, raising their grades so they could remain eligible.
What do I mean by sham? The classes didn't have assignments, and didn't even MEET.

This means that UNC was actually playing ineligible players, but the NCAA so far hasn't said anything about the case, and most likely won't. The case will just be quickly forgotten, and the knee-jerk reactionists and media can continue their cry for PSU to be burned down.


What conference are they in? Then again, I'd have to say that it takes teeth-pulling to get anything done for any team south of the Mason-Dixon.
 
2012-08-14 10:00:47 AM

babysealclubber: brobdiggy: Accreditation is an academic thing. Many times, it is living up to a standard and proving that, academically, you are successfully doing what you claim to be doing, which is educating.

As horrible as the recent PSU situation is, it does NOT warrant losing accreditation.

Based on recently discovered events, if ANY school deserves to lose accreditation, it's this one:

[eaglgymnastics.com image 297x240]

Short story of UNC:
Sham classes were offered to athletes who received high grades on transcripts, raising their grades so they could remain eligible.
What do I mean by sham? The classes didn't have assignments, and didn't even MEET.

This means that UNC was actually playing ineligible players, but the NCAA so far hasn't said anything about the case, and most likely won't. The case will just be quickly forgotten, and the knee-jerk reactionists and media can continue their cry for PSU to be burned down.

High grades? Apparently Julius Peppers had a D+ in black studies or Swahili or some shiat.


These were apparently accidentally put on line yesterday, by UNC:

Link

Link
 
2012-08-14 10:02:14 AM

Zik-Zak:
CLEANSE IT IN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR!

/starting to get into WH40K, sorry


The only thing in need of a scorched earth cleansing are the rabid critics against Penn State - they act not much unlike the Orks.
 
2012-08-14 10:04:21 AM

Zik-Zak: As far as this thread is concerned, they're all kid-rapists by association. The janitors


The janitors knew about kids getting raped too and didnt say anything. Not that you botheres to read anything about it or you would have known that and left it out of you "ZOMG the PSU innocents will get hurt if good old PSU does, its too big to fail!" post.
 
2012-08-14 10:04:58 AM

Aarontology: liam76: Let me be up front about this. I am fine with crucifying the PSU admins who had a hand in this, but if you don't see the similiarities between PSU and a school that allows someone who has been convicted of inapropriate relations with kids to go to Thailand on their dime with no supervision, you r head is buried it he sand.

Yeah, I missed the no supervision part. There should be an investigation to see who knew what about that, and if they knew he was actually doing something.


PSU they had allegations he was doing something.

U Penn, he was convicted of doing something.

I am not saying they are exactly equal, but at the end of the day both administrations allowed people thay had reason to believe touched kids in a position to touch kids.

I don't know why you would need an investigation into U Penn to know if more punishment is needed, if you are for punishment at PSU outside the individuals who had a hand in it.
 
2012-08-14 10:05:48 AM

SpectroBoy: Rincewind53: I'm actually really against that. Think how many random non-football-loving Penn State alumni and students there now who would legitimately be seriously hurt by this.

True.

But think of this. If they set the precedent that looking the other way can cost you YOUR ENTIRE SCHOOL then it is MUCH less likely to happen again at another school.

I think there is a system-wide problem in looking the other way for sports teams in schools and going nuclear on Penn State would certainly help clean up that shiat.

And the current students can simply transfer. That's an inconvenience at most.


No, this wouldn't be just an inconvenience at most. It could be the difference between graduating with a degree and not graduating for thousands of students, possibly tens of thousands of students. Moving from one school to another isn't an easy thing at the best of times, but when you suddenly have upwards of 77,000 students all trying to find new schools to go to, that's going to be a huge issue.

Ironically the student athletes - you know, the ones who everyone is saying are being punished disproportionately for the crimes they have no control over - would have a much easier time of it. "John Smith, Sophomore Cornerback (Redshirted), currently 4th on the depth chart at Penn State, with a 3.4 GPA, is applying to Next Up University. Jane Jones, Sophomore and cute little woman from rural Pennsylvania, who was captain of her high school debate team, has a 3.9 GPA, is also applying to Next Up University. Next Up can only take one of them... so John Smith gets to come to school here, because he might bring in more money for the school by playing football! Sorry Jane, need to look somewhere else." Not to mention that the athletics programs at other schools are more likely to be able to find housing and financial aid for incoming player-athletes, than just the regular admission department. Athletics might be responsible for about 1,000 students. Admissions is responsible for every student that comes in, and most don't play intercollegiate sports.

If the do remove the academic accreditation for Penn State... that's when I'm going to say it's a step too far. Way too far. That's a death penalty for the University on the whole, and as other posters have said, the ones who truly deserve to be punished aren't going to be affected by this nearly as much as the ordinary students at the university. It's one thing to punish the administration and the athletics department; it's a whole other level to punish every single person on campus. Even if it's to send a message to the rest of the nation, that's way too much.

/Was completely on board with the NCAA sanctions to date. No sympathy for the school, etc., etc.
//This is where I draw a line and start to defend Penn State. Athletics and Administration needs to be punished, then utterly changed so this can never happen again. But ruining the entire university... way too far.
 
2012-08-14 10:06:30 AM

Alpha Sierra Foxtrot: The Muthaship: Kyro: You're supporting costing thousands of people their degrees and their jobs

No one loses their degree, no one necessarily loses their job. Whether or not the school loses their accreditation has no effect on their ability to run the school. It is a voluntary membership organization. They can also apply for re-accreditation later (in the unlikely event they actually lose it). Do you want colleges run by people whose SOP is covering up crimes of a very serious nature to be accredited institutions? I don't.

Who, exactly, is going to continue going to a non-accredited university?


Ummmm... U Pheonix grads?
 
2012-08-14 10:07:41 AM

IAmRight: Aarontology: The econ department in conjunction with senior administrative officials didn't cover up the crimes for over a decade in order to preserve the reputation, and more importantly, the income of the department, nor did those crimes happen in the econ department with the full knowledge of the administration.

"In 1993, Ward had been the subject of a sting at his Ardmore mansion, where several teenage boys lived with him, and he was accused of molesting a 13-year-old there as often as 100 times. But after two highly publicized trials, he was sentenced to just five years of probation, during which time he continued to teach at Wharton and to travel - on Penn's dime - to Thailand and other hot spots where the touch of a young boy could be had for a price."

Naw, they just knew about this and continued to employ him and continued to watch him work with at-risk kids for years, paying for him to go to Thailand and "work with" youth there. But naw, there's nothing reprehensible about their actions. Totally not the same, situations where the institution knew about a faculty member's pedophilia thanks to it being reported to police, the faculty member using connections to keep himself out of jail, and the university continuing to employ the person and pay for them to have sex with minors.


Seriously man, give it up. In reality, the entire thing was about University money and reputation. But to the people screaming about revenge, it is all about the football program. I'd wager most are fat, waddling lumps who either couldn't hack actual athletics or who got picked on during their emo phases by people who could. These people have no interest in punishing those responsible or finding justice for the victims.
 
2012-08-14 10:08:40 AM

dv-ous: Alpha Sierra Foxtrot: Who, exactly, is going to continue going to a non-accredited university?

Ummmm... U Pheonix grads?


That is a funny post. But Pheonix is actually accredited.
 
2012-08-14 10:10:05 AM

Kyro: But Pheonix is actually accredited.


I would sue them if I was in charge of Phoenix University.
 
2012-08-14 10:10:06 AM

mikaloyd: Zik-Zak: As far as this thread is concerned, they're all kid-rapists by association. The janitors

The janitors knew about kids getting raped too and didnt say anything. Not that you botheres to read anything about it or you would have known that and left it out of you "ZOMG the PSU innocents will get hurt if good old PSU does, its too big to fail!" post.


Hyperbole for effect, I'm lampooning the scorched-earth punishment fetishists. Lighten up.
 
2012-08-14 10:10:54 AM

sethstorm: see Penn State's appeal


What appeal? They have agreed to the penalty and chosen not to. The whiners on the sideline have no standing to do so, although they seem to think their opinions actually matter, which is cute.
 
2012-08-14 10:15:16 AM

Kyro: Carth: You didn't answer the question. If Penn State can't cover their financial obligations should they be treated like other schools and lose their accreditation?

Could someone let me know if Carth is a known troll? I'm not terribly active on the main page, but I'm having trouble believing somebody would be this intentionally misdirecting.

But I'll read the article to you anyway.

The commission said in an Aug. 8 notice that Penn State remains accredited while "on warning" but it wants a monitoring report submitted by the end of next month detailing steps taken to ensure full compliance with governmental requirements, that the university's mission is being carried out, that the commission will be fully informed and that Penn State is complying with standards on leadership and governance as well as integrity.

The commission also wants the report to address the university's ability to bear financial obligations stemming from "the investigation and related settlements, etc." It said "a small team visit" will be made, a standard practice "to verify institutional status and progress."

So rather than focusing on what the comission actually demanded an answer on, you're harping on their secondary point that was so critical they actually used "etc" in it?

But to answer your intentionally leading question: no, Penn State should not be immune to their financial obligations. However, I would task you to find me a university that's been in dire financial straights(easy) that's lost its accreditation(not quite as easy).


The first page of Google results for Colleges that lost their accreditation lists: St. Paul's College, Morris Brown College and City College of San Francisco as schools who lost their accreditation due to financial troubles in the past decade. It also gives others who were put on probation due to financial difficulties.

If you're really curious the MSCHE website lists all the schools they've placed on probation, warning and revoked the accreditation. Googling the schools that have faced problems show that more often than not it is due to financial problems.

I'm not surprised the news is leading with the more attention grabbing sex scandal news. But the actual notice sent by MSCHE to Penn State just says they are on being watch for three reasons one of which being to ensure they can meet the obligations that will arise due to financial costs associated with settlements and investigations.

I consider the financial concerns the most realistic threat to Penn State's accreditation and apparently you agree.
 
2012-08-14 10:15:52 AM

ha-ha-guy: Carth: Kyro: Carth: Did you read the article? The accreditation board is concerned with Penn State not being able to pay their bills. A school losing accreditation because it can't meet financial obligations isn't exactly a new phenomenon. Do you think Penn State should be exempt from the rules because their financial troubles come from legal problems?

Oh please. Don't be so dense. This is entirely the MSC rattling its sabre so they don't get viewed as looking the other way on the matter as Paterno did. They're covering their own asses by threatening to burn the whole building down.

You didn't answer the question. If Penn State can't cover their financial obligations should they be treated like other schools and lose their accreditation?

Never happen, the state of PA will prop up their flagship University to the tune of a couple billion if needed. The CiC will support them and grant direct to them to keep in decent fiscal health. PSU doesn't operate in a vacuum here.


I agree. Penn State is too big to fail.
 
2012-08-14 10:16:01 AM

CheatCommando: sethstorm: see Penn State's appeal

What appeal?


This one

Their opinions do matter whether you like it or not.
 
2012-08-14 10:16:56 AM
Everyone ever connected with Penn State needs to be given the death penalty. Anyone with a PSU degree, put them in front of a firing squad. Anyone who ever visited Happy Valley and contributed to the local economy? Hang them. Every past founder and alumni of Penn State? Dig them up and burn them. Exile the state of Pennsylvania from the United States, burn the entire university to the ground, and salt the earth.

CHILDREN WERE RAPED, DON'T YOU GET IT???!!! CHILDREN WERE RAPED!! IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT THESE ACTIONS, YOU SUPPORT CHILD RAPE!!!!
 
2012-08-14 10:17:03 AM

Super_pope: Its like advocating the addition of a really big fine to the penalties for murder. Maybe they won't murder if they know there'll be a financial risk!

Idiot

Someone

hasn't heard of the concept of marijuana tax stamps, have they?

For those unfamiliar--in twenty states (which are an almost identical set, of note, with those states where even marijuana for medical purposes is illegal and which have explicitly not decriminalised possession of small amounts) you are technically required to purchase a tax stamp if you possess marijuana (just like tobacco cigarettes are supposed to have a tiny tax stamp on them).

If folks get busted and they didn't get the tax stamp, they can technically be busted for tax evasion above and beyond the usual charges; if someone DOES buy a marijuana tax stamp, that's prima facie evidence that they're in possession of an illicit substance--and usually to a degree that would not only be considered a felony but frank intent to distribute.

(For example, in Kentucky (which has no medical marijuana law and still aggressively prosecutes mere possession), you're supposed to get a marijuana tax stamp if you own more than five plants or 42.5 grams, and the tax rates are steep ($1000 per plant or $150 for the minimum amount with increases of $3.50 per gram afterwards). Failure to pay the tax is double the amount of the tax and it's considered a class C felony (with imprisonment of 5-10 years and a possible fine of up to $10,000).

(Of course, if one WERE to get a tax stamp, you've just admitted to a class D felony of 1-5 years imprisonment (with mandatory minimums) and a fine of $10,000 if you admit to owning plants, or a misdemeanor possession-with-intent-to-sell charge with penalty of up to 1 year in prison and $500 fine (possession of less than 8 oz for personal use is still up to 45 days in jail and a $250 fine here; 42.5 grams is a little less than 2 ounces). Kentucky also treats mere possession of more than 8 grams as prima facie intent to distribute, which automatically bumps it up to a felony.

(So it's a real case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't"; if you have a little bit and the courts want to be particularly nasty, they charge you with not getting a tax stamp for your joint (which bumps up a misdemeanor charge to a major felony), if you do, you stand a good chance of being charged with a felony.)

(Yes, my state has some of the strictest laws in the US re marijuana and I'll be pleasantly surprised if "medical marijuana" is legalised within my lifetime here; the laws used to be written so broadly that having hemp rope was legally defined as marijuana possession; it wasn't until the 1990s that non-THC-bearing hemp was legalised in the state, and that mostly because it was being promoted as an alternative to tobacco production.)
 
2012-08-14 10:17:32 AM
New Rule: Anything Joe Pa didnt see never happened and cannot be held against Penn State. To protect people.
 
2012-08-14 10:19:25 AM

thibor: thats great, they will punish everyone but the people responsible. the people responsible will still get their pensions and negotiated retirements. the educators, support staff, students and surrounding community will be the ones to suffer. gotta love good ole murican justice. murica fark yeah!


Isn't that how life is nowadays?

Banks fail? Take the money from the people and prop up the banks.
Underwater on your mortgage/home? Take the money from those who have paid off their mortgage or made their payments on time and use it to pay down the principal on those who are delinquent/underwater.
Some guy goes apeshiat in a movie theatre? Take everyones right to keep and bear arms away.
Someone molests children? Take it out on the stufdent body.

Its the American way.
 
2012-08-14 10:19:46 AM
this has really made me think. i'm very lucky to have attended a school where athletics didn't matter, the athletes never got any special attention, and nothing was more important than integrity.

go buckeyes!
 
2012-08-14 10:20:45 AM

sethstorm: CheatCommando: sethstorm: see Penn State's appeal

What appeal?

This one

Their opinions do matter whether you like it or not.


Well yeah. Penn State is too important to be punished without a fight. The motto of PSU is We Are Big! Fu*K The Small!
 
2012-08-14 10:21:08 AM
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2012-08-14 10:23:26 AM
I think they need to take away everyone's degree and any money anyone has made at a job they have gotten with a degree from there has to pay it back. I think that's only reasonable.
 
2012-08-14 10:28:30 AM

YouWinAgainGravity: Everyone ever connected with Penn State needs to be given the death penalty. Anyone with a PSU degree, put them in front of a firing squad. Anyone who ever visited Happy Valley and contributed to the local economy? Hang them. Every past founder and alumni of Penn State? Dig them up and burn them. Exile the state of Pennsylvania from the United States, burn the entire university to the ground, and salt the earth.

CHILDREN WERE RAPED, DON'T YOU GET IT???!!! CHILDREN WERE RAPED!! IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT THESE ACTIONS, YOU SUPPORT CHILD RAPE!!!!


Needs more Helen Lovejoy.

/too lazy to find one
//this coffee sucks
 
2012-08-14 10:28:42 AM
The school is done. Who in their right mind would apply to Penn State now? Next year's freshman class will be 80% foreign students.
 
2012-08-14 10:29:35 AM

YouWinAgainGravity: Everyone ever connected with Penn State needs to be given the death penalty. Anyone with a PSU degree, put them in front of a firing squad. Anyone who ever visited Happy Valley and contributed to the local economy? Hang them. Every past founder and alumni of Penn State? Dig them up and burn them. Exile the state of Pennsylvania from the United States, burn the entire university to the ground, and salt the earth.

CHILDREN WERE RAPED, DON'T YOU GET IT???!!! CHILDREN WERE RAPED!! IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT THESE ACTIONS, YOU SUPPORT CHILD RAPE!!!!


You don't realize you sound just as breathlessly unhinged as the people you are purportedly mocking when you do that.
 
2012-08-14 10:30:42 AM

someonelse: YouWinAgainGravity: Everyone ever connected with Penn State needs to be given the death penalty. Anyone with a PSU degree, put them in front of a firing squad. Anyone who ever visited Happy Valley and contributed to the local economy? Hang them. Every past founder and alumni of Penn State? Dig them up and burn them. Exile the state of Pennsylvania from the United States, burn the entire university to the ground, and salt the earth.

CHILDREN WERE RAPED, DON'T YOU GET IT???!!! CHILDREN WERE RAPED!! IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT THESE ACTIONS, YOU SUPPORT CHILD RAPE!!!!

You don't realize you sound just as breathlessly unhinged as the people you are purportedly mocking when you do that.


thatsthejoke.jpg
 
2012-08-14 10:31:20 AM
Sometimes actions taken by a school's administrators may in fact put their school's accreditation at risk. Sometimes a school's accreditation is removed and yes, any students of that school suffer the consequences. This system is important though, and those students who end up suffering are not more important than the overall program goal of identifying which schools are able to provide a quality education to potential customers.

So this triggered a review of PSU. I doubt that they will lose their accreditation, but if they do....big deal. Current high school students need to be made aware of a school that is no longer capable of holding up its end of the education bargain.
 
2012-08-14 10:31:28 AM
FTFA:

The commission said in an Aug. 8 notice that Penn State remains accredited while "on warning" but it wants a monitoring report submitted by the end of next month detailing steps taken to ensure full compliance with governmental requirements, that the university's mission is being carried out, that the commission will be fully informed and that Penn State is complying with standards on leadership and governance as well as integrity.



Yeah about that... not gonna happen. PSU has already sued and won in court the right to not give up any records (as they are were peviously required to do as a publicly funded entity) presumably because bad things happen to PSU when people look too closely at what Penn State does. Expect a long assed expensive court battle from PSU against anything and anybody trying to excercise any sort of right to know with PSU. Their flowers wilt badly under the light of public scrutiny.
 
2012-08-14 10:33:22 AM
What Sandusky did was wrong and horrible. Joe should have told the police and not just kicked it up the ladder. But had Sandusky robbed a bank would they be punishing the entire University,students, and town.
Everyone wants to jump on the beat up PSU bandwagon. It's the new Salem Witch Trials.Burn them at the stake just because it's entertaining.
 
2012-08-14 10:39:16 AM

H31N0US: The school is done. Who in their right mind would apply to Penn State now?


Nobody. You'd have to be a total retard not to realize that all the knowledge has been drained out of the school and it went down the drain with the water from the showers.
 
2012-08-14 10:40:26 AM

Pavia_Resistance: MAYORBOB: Animatronik: Penn State is a world class university, which has nothing to do with Paterno or the administrators who looked the other way.

They shouldnt destroy the university over this, just make institute reforms.

In which world?

The same one that you and I reside in. Ranked 51st in the world according to this list Link


Check back in a couple of years, especially if the school loses its accreditation.
 
2012-08-14 10:41:18 AM

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Reminds me of the asshole at the padres game last week that tried to start a "We are" fapfest.

Shouted down immediately.
 
2012-08-14 10:42:31 AM

gremlin1: What Sandusky did was wrong and horrible. Joe should have told the police and not just kicked it up the ladder. But had Sandusky robbed a bank would they be punishing the entire University,students, and town.
Everyone wants to jump on the beat up PSU bandwagon. It's the new Salem Witch Trials.Burn them at the stake just because it's entertaining.



What if he tore the tags off mattresses instead of raping kids? And instead of everyone from the janitors through the top of the food chain hiding his mattress tag shenanigans they turned him in? And no riots happened afterwards? That would have been totes awesome. There would be rainbows glowing and unicorns leaping playfully in happy valley right now. That'd be awesome sauce.
 
2012-08-14 10:43:13 AM

gremlin1: What Sandusky did was wrong and horrible. Joe should have told the police and not just kicked it up the ladder. But had Sandusky robbed a bank would they be punishing the entire University,students, and town.
Everyone wants to jump on the beat up PSU bandwagon. It's the new Salem Witch Trials.Burn them at the stake just because it's entertaining.



Had Sandusky been systematically robbing banks for over a decade while the football Program and University Leaders been knowledgeable and actively involved in the cover-up of said serial crime, it still would have been a pretty big deal. Not as big of a deal as what it currently is, but that's because it's silly to imply that the two crimes are even closer to similar in degree of heinousness.

It's important to note that most of what Penn State is eating right now is a result of the cover-up, not the crime (which is usually how it works).
 
2012-08-14 10:43:41 AM
When will the vengeance be satisfied?
 
2012-08-14 10:45:42 AM

chachi88: Stoj: [i50.tinypic.com image 580x224]
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Reminds me of the asshole at the padres game last week that tried to start a "We are" fapfest.

Shouted down immediately.


I've never understood why people find flash mobs appealing.
 
2012-08-14 10:46:13 AM
Jerry Sandusky academically abused me in the library.
 
2012-08-14 10:48:07 AM

Lawnchair: Endive Wombat: What happens with the physical school itself?

Minimum-security prison?

Not kidding... that's what I've seen happen to some (much, much smaller) defunct colleges.


Excellent. Just put chains on the doors and be done with it.
 
2012-08-14 10:55:13 AM

CapnBlues: When will the vengeance be satisfied?


Probably after PSU cult members admit cultural culpability and try to change the culture that allowed this to happen rather than propping it up and furthermore put in place some transparent outside oversight to ensure that not only are other transgressions brought to light but also that this sort of thing never happens again at Penn State. Unless and until that happens the whole place is a slimy cesspit of hiding places for whatever it is they enjoy hiding at PSU. Or when its nuked from orbit for being a slimy unreformed unapologetic cesspit, Whichever
 
2012-08-14 10:58:25 AM

mikaloyd: CapnBlues: When will the vengeance be satisfied?

Probably after PSU cult members admit cultural culpability and try to change the culture that allowed this to happen rather than propping it up and furthermore put in place some transparent outside oversight to ensure that not only are other transgressions brought to light but also that this sort of thing never happens again at Penn State. Unless and until that happens the whole place is a slimy cesspit of hiding places for whatever it is they enjoy hiding at PSU.


Tell me how the university could prove this. Tell me how any university could prove this.

Unless... I can't remember, are you one of the users here that has just always hated PSU and is using this as your opportunity to hurt the whole school? I've been gone from fark for a few months, so i don't remember. Your name is familiar to me. In fact, this conversation is reminding me why I've been gone from fark for a few months. Forget it, have a good one, man. All the best to you.
 
2012-08-14 10:58:32 AM

CapnBlues: When will the vengeance be satisfied?


What vengeance? Some large accrediting organization is shuffling papers around to make themselves look busy and otherwise "adhere to policy". Nothing will happen.

Calm the f*ck down.
 
2012-08-14 11:03:23 AM

CapnBlues: mikaloyd: CapnBlues: When will the vengeance be satisfied?

Probably after PSU cult members admit cultural culpability and try to change the culture that allowed this to happen rather than propping it up and furthermore put in place some transparent outside oversight to ensure that not only are other transgressions brought to light but also that this sort of thing never happens again at Penn State. Unless and until that happens the whole place is a slimy cesspit of hiding places for whatever it is they enjoy hiding at PSU.

Tell me how the university could prove this. Tell me how any university could prove this.

Unless... I can't remember, are you one of the users here that has just always hated PSU and is using this as your opportunity to hurt the whole school? I've been gone from fark for a few months, so i don't remember. Your name is familiar to me. In fact, this conversation is reminding me why I've been gone from fark for a few months. Forget it, have a good one, man. All the best to you.


Please do tell, how much of an effect will the collective hate of Fark have on PSU?
 
2012-08-14 11:03:26 AM
You would think that academically they would get into more trouble from their boot licking the fracking industry.
 
2012-08-14 11:04:29 AM

Kyro: thatboyoverthere: Yelp I'm having a really hard time giving a fark for them.

How about the engineering student that went to Penn State, was completely disinterested in football and is now job searching with a toxic degree? How is this at all that student's fault?


I'm pretty sure HR managers can use something called "a calendar" and realize that said student's degree was granted before the loss of accreditation. It would suck more to be a senior at the school right now, but as others have said, there are always options.
 
2012-08-14 11:12:40 AM

mikaloyd: admit cultural culpability


This is the dumbest phrase ever and by "cultural culpability" standards everyone everywhere is a criminal.
 
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