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(Patriot Ledger)   Bostonites explain why they still call I-95 route 128. No explanation for the flashing green traffic signal   (patriotledger.com) divider line 96
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2012-08-14 07:55:37 AM  
Meh.

/Assachusettes, you can keep it.
 
2012-08-14 08:01:18 AM  
True Bostonians don't believe that anything exists west of Cambridge, so they don't care about 95/128.

Thank god I don't live in that god-forsaken state anymore.
 
2012-08-14 08:01:27 AM  
It'll likely server to confuse the hell out of non-locals. Not too long ago, PennDOT
decided to rename and entire swatch of I-279 (from downtown Pittsburgh to south-west)
to I-376 (which previously only ran from east of Pittsburgh to downtown). I-279 is
still there, but only from downtown *north*.

PennDOT still scratches their heads (no kidding - it crops up in the papers every so
often) when people simply refer to them as the Parkway East (I376), Parkway West(I376 nee I279)
and Parkway North(I279). They also refuse to put useful signs up to that effect.

Also, sometime around that name change, a new section of I376 (Toll) opened up in Beaver
County, some 30ish odd miles away from any vestige of the *real* I376.

I love giving directions to out-of-towners.
 
2012-08-14 08:02:36 AM  
Rhode Islanders don't help, either. All directions there are by landmarks, never street names. Trouble is, the landmarks are often long gone for many years, e.g. "turn right at where the old Newport Crreamery used to be."

I lived in Boston for only a year but thought it was overrated. The crazy patchwork of pre-Revolutionary streets is not so much "charming" and "difficult to navgate." Its public transportation is inadequate, so you often need a car AND a CharlieCard (pass for the T).

All of the disadvantages of New York -- crowding, expense -- while the advantages were smaller.

New England was definitely not my speed. YMMV, of course.
 
2012-08-14 08:02:52 AM  
It's still the PCH, Bayshore, and the Nimitz out in California. What numbers?
 
2012-08-14 08:06:31 AM  
Norm! Cheers is where I learned all I need to know about Boston.
 
2012-08-14 08:07:48 AM  
Is this like the way older Chicagoans refer to Pulaski Road as Crawford? It's only been 75 years.
 
2012-08-14 08:17:12 AM  
Because they go in differnt directions even though they are the same road. Parts of 128 north are 95 south and vice versa.
 
2012-08-14 08:18:10 AM  
ah yes - 95N/128S where you're actually traveling east.
 
2012-08-14 08:21:50 AM  
tl;dr

Does it mention the bit of road where 95 South is simultaneously 93 North?

Also the bit they buried in the big dig is called at various times 93, Route 1, Route 3, the Southeast Expressway, and JFK Thruway. Listening to traffic reports is a blast for out-of-towners.
 
2012-08-14 08:35:37 AM  
If you don't know where you're going...you shouldn't be going there anyway.

/welcome to New England
//I do sort of feel bad for folks renting cars at Logan who have never been to Boston
 
2012-08-14 08:36:25 AM  

rmdpgh: It'll likely server to confuse the hell out of non-locals. Not too long ago, PennDOT
decided to rename and entire swatch of I-279 (from downtown Pittsburgh to south-west)
to I-376 (which previously only ran from east of Pittsburgh to downtown). I-279 is
still there, but only from downtown *north*.


I noticed that last time I was out there for the winter classic. I remember it being 279 from my college days, my gps said it was 279. My wife was driving and freaking out because the signs said 376.

/Technically Route 50 east of the Capital Beltway all the way to MD-70 is I-595 but they never signed it as such and left the US-50 signs up so as not to confuse people.
 
2012-08-14 08:38:34 AM  
Lancaster PA, where routes 72, 772, 722, 272, US 222 all converge. Luckily route 22 is off to the north a bit.
 
2012-08-14 08:39:45 AM  

LordOfThePings: Is this like the way older Chicagoans refer to Pulaski Road as Crawford? It's only been 75 years.


Lower Wacker Drive.
 
2012-08-14 08:42:03 AM  
cache.boston.com

Wicked simple.
 
2012-08-14 08:42:47 AM  

lake_huron: Trouble is, the landmarks are often long gone for many years, e.g. "turn right at where the old Newport Crreamery used to be."


Turn at the Dunkin Donuts.
 
2012-08-14 08:44:01 AM  
I own an old driver's manual that explains the flashing green light. It's a warning to drivers that the red and yellow lights may illuminate simultaneously.
 
2012-08-14 08:44:29 AM  
I regularly drove by a flashing green on an old route to work. Confounded the hell out of me, as the thing definitely wasn't a bicolor signal. It was just a light in the middle of nowhere, flashing a green light. To this day I don't know what the fark it's for.

lake_huron: I lived in Boston for only a year but thought it was overrated.


First time I lived in Boston I was just starting out and hated it. It's expensive, and the people are rude. Not a good place to start out.

After being away for a decade, I came back and like it. The thing about Boston is that it doesn't hold your hand. If cities were dogs, it's NOT the naive puppy that jumps in your lap and licks your face. This is the street-hardened stray that takes months to tame, so you basically have to commit to a mutual fate before you even get to know it. But IF you make the commitment, you'll be rewarded with an awesome ally and not just a stupid lapdog. Boston rewards those who arrive to be Bostonians. If you show up with some entitled expectations, you'll never like this town and the town won't like you back. For example, many streets are unmarked and they crisscross each other, which frustrates people and messes up their GPS systems. Odds are your first time here your GPS will guide you right into a festering mess. If you feel you're entitled to moar lanes, sorry -- we just ain't got the room. A lot of these houses don't have the front lawns to give up for an expansion even if the city went crazy with eminent domain. You have to literally research the roads. Once you know them, though, you have your own secret routes that dodge traffic and lights (that trap all the people who hate Boston). That's just one example, but the moral of the story is: Learn how to live here or GTFO.

There are great jobs, great places and great people here, but Boston is a very unforgiving place for those who want to just exploit the opportunities without investing their resources. I don't mind that most people hate it because it keeps the city from getting too crowded.
 
2012-08-14 08:44:34 AM  

sinanju: tl;dr

Does it mention the bit of road where 95 South is simultaneously 93 North?

Also the bit they buried in the big dig is called at various times 93, Route 1, Route 3, the Southeast Expressway, and JFK Thruway. Listening to traffic reports is a blast for out-of-towners.


There never has been a "JFK Thruway" in Boston. There is, however, the John F. Fitzgerald Expressway, which was named after John F. "Honey Fitz" Fitzgerald, mayor of Boston (and JFK's grandfather).
 
2012-08-14 08:45:37 AM  
What the hell is a Bostonite?
 
2012-08-14 08:46:17 AM  

MisterSocksFox: I own an old driver's manual that explains the flashing green light. It's a warning to drivers that the red and yellow lights may illuminate simultaneously.


Huh. Except the flashing green I saw was just a green. It wasn't a three-light signal. It was basically an enclosed bulb on a stick.
 
2012-08-14 08:46:41 AM  
Um, Subby....

highvalleybooks.com
 
2012-08-14 08:49:01 AM  
so they refuse to call the road something different, but have jumped on the "Gillette Stadium in Foxboro" bandwagon....
 
2012-08-14 08:49:35 AM  
dc.streetsblog.org
 
2012-08-14 08:50:36 AM  

puckrock2000: sinanju: tl;dr

Does it mention the bit of road where 95 South is simultaneously 93 North?

Also the bit they buried in the big dig is called at various times 93, Route 1, Route 3, the Southeast Expressway, and JFK Thruway. Listening to traffic reports is a blast for out-of-towners.

There never has been a "JFK Thruway" in Boston. There is, however, the John F. Fitzgerald Expressway, which was named after John F. "Honey Fitz" Fitzgerald, mayor of Boston (and JFK's grandfather).


Ah... you are correct. My error. It's been a while since I had to decode a traffic report there.
 
2012-08-14 08:51:05 AM  

ChubbyTiger: Lower Wacker Drive.


Probably shouldn't post your address online.
 
2012-08-14 08:52:32 AM  

MisterSocksFox: I own an old driver's manual that explains the flashing green light. It's a warning to drivers that the red and yellow lights may illuminate simultaneously.


I thought it meant crosswalk. Seriously, that's what I thought it was.
 
2012-08-14 08:52:45 AM  
Out on Route 128
out by the power lines
it's so exciting there at night
with my radio on
 
2012-08-14 08:52:58 AM  

Rush's_pills: If you don't know where you're going...you shouldn't be going there anyway.

/welcome to New England
//I do sort of feel bad for folks renting cars at Logan who have never been to Boston


Also, driving in Boston is a competitive sport. If you suck at it you shouldn't be playing.

/goes double for fat mid-westerners who've never seen a roundabout.
//why does everyone think we're rude?!
 
2012-08-14 08:53:04 AM  
 
2012-08-14 08:53:58 AM  

The Incredible Sexual Egg: What the hell is a Bostonite?


That's the oxidized form of smug. When a Masshole excretes a steaming pile of smug that reacts with oxygen in the air, the surface becomes a layer of Bostonite. This stable outer layer protects the smug from further corrosion, although more aggressive reactions like corruption and congestion will further break down the smug into hipsterate.
 
2012-08-14 08:54:30 AM  

Persnickety: MisterSocksFox: I own an old driver's manual that explains the flashing green light. It's a warning to drivers that the red and yellow lights may illuminate simultaneously.

I thought it meant crosswalk. Seriously, that's what I thought it was.


You were right.
 
2012-08-14 08:54:52 AM  

monstour: so they refuse to call the road something different, but have jumped on the "Gillette Stadium in Foxboro" bandwagon....


Gillette is/was a Boston brand. It's certainly better than the generic Foxboro Stadium.
 
2012-08-14 08:58:11 AM  

rmdpgh: It'll likely server to confuse the hell out of non-locals. Not too long ago, PennDOT
decided to rename and entire swatch of I-279 (from downtown Pittsburgh to south-west)
to I-376 (which previously only ran from east of Pittsburgh to downtown). I-279 is
still there, but only from downtown *north*.

PennDOT still scratches their heads (no kidding - it crops up in the papers every so
often) when people simply refer to them as the Parkway East (I376), Parkway West(I376 nee I279)
and Parkway North(I279). They also refuse to put useful signs up to that effect.

Also, sometime around that name change, a new section of I376 (Toll) opened up in Beaver
County, some 30ish odd miles away from any vestige of the *real* I376.

I love giving directions to out-of-towners.


I bet Beaver County is a popular destination. How does one get there?
 
2012-08-14 09:01:12 AM  

Persnickety: monstour: so they refuse to call the road something different, but have jumped on the "Gillette Stadium in Foxboro" bandwagon....

Gillette is/was a Boston brand. It's certainly better than the generic Foxboro Stadium.


On the flip side, Great Woods will always be Great Woods.
 
2012-08-14 09:03:21 AM  

Persnickety: monstour: so they refuse to call the road something different, but have jumped on the "Gillette Stadium in Foxboro" bandwagon....

Gillette is/was a Boston brand. It's certainly better than the generic Foxboro Stadium.


Plus Gillette has always been the name of the new stadium, IIRC. Foxboro stadium was the old one they tore down in 2002.

/I call it New Schaefer.
 
2012-08-14 09:04:30 AM  

Mael99: rmdpgh: It'll likely server to confuse the hell out of non-locals. Not too long ago, PennDOT
decided to rename and entire swatch of I-279 (from downtown Pittsburgh to south-west)
to I-376 (which previously only ran from east of Pittsburgh to downtown). I-279 is
still there, but only from downtown *north*.

PennDOT still scratches their heads (no kidding - it crops up in the papers every so
often) when people simply refer to them as the Parkway East (I376), Parkway West(I376 nee I279)
and Parkway North(I279). They also refuse to put useful signs up to that effect.

Also, sometime around that name change, a new section of I376 (Toll) opened up in Beaver
County, some 30ish odd miles away from any vestige of the *real* I376.

I love giving directions to out-of-towners.

I bet Beaver County is a popular destination. How does one get there?


Start in Jugtown, head into Puseyville by way of Intercourse. If you go too close to Rough & Ready you'll eventually find yourself in Blue Balls but If you stay on course, you'll get to Climax and eventually end up in Paradise.
 
2012-08-14 09:07:34 AM  

monstour: so they refuse to call the road something different, but have jumped on the "Gillette Stadium in Foxboro" bandwagon....


No, we haven't.

It's still Schaffer Stadium to me.
And I go to see concerts at Great Woods.
I buy my booze from the "packie."
And when I go to see the Celtics play it's at "The Garden." No "r" in there I might add even though I have almost no discernible Boston accent.

I attribute this mindset to something very simple; we have landmarks here that have had the same name for centuries. Some fly-by-night that wants to name something has to prove to us with more than a few decades of stability that any change is worth our time.

You want to name something? Great. Go get a dog. But if you want to change the general consciousness of Bostonians then you need to prove it worthwhile to us. We've been here a damned long time and seen things come and go. Prove you're in it for the long haul and maybe we'll consider it. It needs to be earned, not bought.

....and Kenmore aint' been for shiat since they tore The Rat down.
 
2012-08-14 09:19:50 AM  

Persnickety: Mael99: rmdpgh: It'll likely server to confuse the hell out of non-locals. Not too long ago, PennDOT
decided to rename and entire swatch of I-279 (from downtown Pittsburgh to south-west)
to I-376 (which previously only ran from east of Pittsburgh to downtown). I-279 is
still there, but only from downtown *north*.

PennDOT still scratches their heads (no kidding - it crops up in the papers every so
often) when people simply refer to them as the Parkway East (I376), Parkway West(I376 nee I279)
and Parkway North(I279). They also refuse to put useful signs up to that effect.

Also, sometime around that name change, a new section of I376 (Toll) opened up in Beaver
County, some 30ish odd miles away from any vestige of the *real* I376.

I love giving directions to out-of-towners.

I bet Beaver County is a popular destination. How does one get there?

Start in Jugtown, head into Puseyville by way of Intercourse. If you go too close to Rough & Ready you'll eventually find yourself in Blue Balls but If you stay on course, you'll get to Climax and eventually end up in Paradise.


Don't listen to him - you'll *still* be 281 miles away from Beaver.
 
2012-08-14 09:24:32 AM  
The real answer is that Rt. 128 existed first, then I-95 came through. The 128 was never dropped (it apparently was in this section) and the name sticks around. Up near Peabody they split, I-95 going to NH and 128 headed to Gloucester (Glawstah)

I frequently travel on N128/N95/S3. When I had a GPS, it loved that area.

/honorary masshole
 
2012-08-14 09:25:58 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Persnickety: monstour: so they refuse to call the road something different, but have jumped on the "Gillette Stadium in Foxboro" bandwagon....

Gillette is/was a Boston brand. It's certainly better than the generic Foxboro Stadium.

Plus Gillette has always been the name of the new stadium, IIRC. Foxboro stadium was the old one they tore down in 2002.


The stadium was originally known as CMGI Field before the naming rights were bought by Gillette after the "dot-com" bust.
 
2012-08-14 09:27:54 AM  

Persnickety: Start in Jugtown, head into Puseyville by way of Intercourse. If you go too close to Rough & Ready you'll eventually find yourself in Blue Balls but If you stay on course, you'll get to Climax and eventually end up in Paradise.


Where's Intercourse? Was that built in the last 50 years? Back in my day the only way to get to Puseyville was via the old Church Avenue. And none of us respectable folk go anywhere near the Rough & Ready; stay on one side of the fence take the Blue Line from Wood Island to Wonderland.
 
2012-08-14 09:31:31 AM  

dragonchild: Boston rewards those who arrive to be Bostonians. If you show up with some entitled expectations you're black, you'll never like this town and the town won't like you back.


FTFY
 
2012-08-14 09:33:43 AM  

enry: The real answer is that Rt. 128 existed first, then I-95 came through. The 128 was never dropped (it apparently was in this section) and the name sticks around. Up near Peabody Pibbiddy they split, I-95 going to NH and 128 headed to Gloucester (Glawstah)

I frequently travel on N128/N95/S3. When I had a GPS, it loved that area.

/honorary masshole


FTFY
 
2012-08-14 09:33:54 AM  
I love this state. I work in biotech so why wouldn't I want to be in Boston? They don't call it Genetown for nothing!
 
2012-08-14 09:33:56 AM  

puckrock2000: Debeo Summa Credo: Persnickety: monstour: so they refuse to call the road something different, but have jumped on the "Gillette Stadium in Foxboro" bandwagon....

Gillette is/was a Boston brand. It's certainly better than the generic Foxboro Stadium.

Plus Gillette has always been the name of the new stadium, IIRC. Foxboro stadium was the old one they tore down in 2002.

The stadium was originally known as CMGI Field before the naming rights were bought by Gillette after the "dot-com" bust.


CMGI only during construction. By the time it was opened it was Gillette.
 
2012-08-14 09:39:48 AM  
In St. Louis even the main newspaper refuses to use the term I-64 and still refers to it as Highway 40.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-08-14 09:45:38 AM  
The rest of the Route 128 loop hasn't been safe, either. Verseckes says there have been several attempts by the state over the years to completely eliminate the Route 128 designation south of Peabody.

Route 128 mile markers start from 0 at the northern interchange with I-95.

The problem is the name "Route 128" serves a purpose. I-95 is a long distance route that happens to overlap part of the beltway only because Governor Sargent gave in to anti-highway protests 40 years ago. The beltway needs a name of its own.

I was going to say "inner beltway" (vs. I-495 outer beltway) but that name was intended for a smaller loop from running from the current Mass. Ave. interchange, over the river, between MIT and Central Square, and rejoining present I-93 in Somerville where the Leverett Connector splits off now. Sargent killed that project along with all other highway construction inside Route 128.
 
2012-08-14 09:49:42 AM  

Skarekrough: monstour: so they refuse to call the road something different, but have jumped on the "Gillette Stadium in Foxboro" bandwagon....

No, we haven't.

It's still Schaffer Stadium to me.

Sullivan Stadium to me. 80's transplant. U2, the Who...
And I go to see concerts at Great Woods.
Yep. I never call it the Cumcast Center
I buy my booze from the "packie."
and if you know the owner's name it's always Jack's or Paul's, etc.
And when I go to see the Celtics play it's at "The Garden." No "r" in there I might add even though I have almost no discernible Boston accent.
Yeah, every time the bank that named it got bought they had to "rename" it. The What-What Garden? Don't be retahded, it's just the Gahden.

....and Kenmore aint' been for shiat since they tore The Rat down.
--- Tear. Tip your Heffenreffer 40 and let's have a moment of silence.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-08-14 09:51:40 AM  
Listening to traffic reports is a blast for out-of-towners.

Try listening to WERS college radio trying to do traffic reports. The students don't understand Boston commuting so the presentation is confusing. They may do I-93 as a unit even though it is three different highways ("I-93", "Southeast Expressway", and "south end of Route 128").

Reminds me of writing directions to get to an event. The guy who had never had a license or lived or worked far from a college insisted he should write the directions. Two people almost ended up on Cape Cod instead of in Milton.
 
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