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2012-08-14 08:39:51 AM  
Pre-sales for the iPhone 5 will begin Sept. 12, the same day Apple is expected to announce the device, according to a new report.

Though the sixth-generation iPhone likely won't launch or get to customers until Sept. 21


They're not calling it "iPhone 5".
 
2012-08-14 08:43:02 AM  
I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.
 
2012-08-14 08:46:59 AM  
"There have also been rumors that Apple may use September to launch other new mobile products, including an iPad mini..."

Isn't the iPhone the iPad Mini?
 
2012-08-14 08:47:27 AM  

bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.


Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.
 
2012-08-14 08:53:20 AM  
iPhone616
 
2012-08-14 08:56:39 AM  

Farking Canuck: bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.

Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.


But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.
 
2012-08-14 08:57:28 AM  
These stories are a joke.

September 21 release? Unnamed sources? Lol.

The only news I've seen that made me laugh til I cry was the "new battery". These people are jumping up and down for a battery going from 1330 mAh to 1340 mAh. Woohoo, .7% increase. Take my RAZR. Going from a 1700 mAh to a 3300 mAh battery with very little space gain. THAT'S amazing
 
2012-08-14 09:03:46 AM  
It will still suck compared to my GNex.
 
2012-08-14 09:14:21 AM  

Nem Wan: But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.


The app store difference is a matter of philosophy. I'd prefer to take risks in the outside world than live in a sterilized cage. Sure, I might get hurt if I'm not careful, but I also have much greater opportunity.

That being said.... I wish I could lock most other computer and phone users in a sterilized cage. I don't mind taking risks and cleaning up my own messes when I goof up, but I'm not a fan of having to save everyone else when they do something stupid and don't know how to react.
 
2012-08-14 09:20:19 AM  

jayphat: These stories are a joke.

September 21 release? Unnamed sources? Lol.

The only news I've seen that made me laugh til I cry was the "new battery". These people are jumping up and down for a battery going from 1330 mAh to 1340 mAh. Woohoo, .7% increase. Take my RAZR. Going from a 1700 mAh to a 3300 mAh battery with very little space gain. THAT'S amazing


But she has a new hat.
 
2012-08-14 09:26:44 AM  

Nem Wan: Farking Canuck: bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.

Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.

But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.


It is also a "choice free" garden. And now that the charging cable will have a chip in it with copywrited software ... it is going to be a "3rd party hardware-free garden" ... reducing choice and increasing costs further.

/a tiny bit of common sense keeps my phone malware free ... no need for others to protect me
 
2012-08-14 09:27:03 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: but I also have much greater opportunity.

Not if you are a developer and like to actually make money.
 
2012-08-14 09:29:43 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Nem Wan: But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.

The app store difference is a matter of philosophy. I'd prefer to take risks in the outside world than live in a sterilized cage. Sure, I might get hurt if I'm not careful, but I also have much greater opportunity.

That being said.... I wish I could lock most other computer and phone users in a sterilized cage. I don't mind taking risks and cleaning up my own messes when I goof up, but I'm not a fan of having to save everyone else when they do something stupid and don't know how to react.


Well said.

How about this:

When you power on a newly-purchased computer, the user will be given a test. The test score determines how much access you will have. There can be a few standard levels and users can have limited internet access to basic courses until they can prove that they can be trusted online.

Think of it as a sort of learner's permit path to a full driver's license.
 
2012-08-14 09:29:47 AM  
10 out of 10 techie friends in San Francisco, including those who have had iphones since the beginning, tell me "Buy Galaxy, Android is way better."

The thing about Apple is that you must only do things the Apple way. It was torture and a half to get music from my USB stick to the damned 3gs iphone that I bought for use in Vietnam.
 
2012-08-14 09:31:13 AM  

Farking Canuck: Nem Wan: Farking Canuck: bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.

Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.

But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.

It is also a "choice free" garden. And now that the charging cable will have a chip in it with copywrited software ... it is going to be a "3rd party hardware-free garden" ... reducing choice and increasing costs further.

/a tiny bit of common sense keeps my phone malware free ... no need for others to protect me


Seriously? Nokia did that to keep people buying their $50 data cable (before USB was standard) to back up their phones.
 
2012-08-14 09:33:26 AM  
I need to replace my iPhone 3G that has served me well for almost 3 years and will finally get the iPhone 5 (or whatever it's called). But what grinds my gears is that when the iPhone 5 gets released I'll have a legion of Apple fanboys in front of me in line. They'll all be super anxious and acting like they're going to die because they just have to replace their 10 month old iPhone 4s' as soon as humanly possible.
 
2012-08-14 09:37:11 AM  

mjohnson71: I need to replace my iPhone 3G that has served me well for almost 3 years and will finally get the iPhone 5 (or whatever it's called). But what grinds my gears is that when the iPhone 5 gets released I'll have a legion of Apple fanboys in front of me in line. They'll all be super anxious and acting like they're going to die because they just have to replace their 10 month old iPhone 4s' as soon as humanly possible.


So wait a couple months until the fanfare dies down.

Or get a Samsung.
 
2012-08-14 09:39:40 AM  

Farking Canuck: bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.

Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.


Can you load apps from Apples app store on your Android device? No? Welcome to a walled garden.
Of course why would you want to load an iOS app on your Android device, since just about any app is available on both platforms.
The 'walled garden' expression is pretty much meaningless.
You can make the argument that people who buy into the Apple ecosystem are locked into using Apple devices, if they want to continue using the apps they purchased from the Apple app store. Since I have never actually found an app worth buying, switching between platforms is not an issue for me. And I'll bet this is the case for many people.

Devices I currently own:
Samsung Galaxy S2
iPad 3
Nexus 7
 
2012-08-14 09:45:31 AM  
How much smug does a new iPhone come with? Do you need a charger for that too?
 
2012-08-14 09:45:46 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Farking Canuck: bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.

Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.

Can you load apps from Apples app store on your Android device? No? Welcome to a walled garden.
Of course why would you want to load an iOS app on your Android device, since just about any app is available on both platforms.
The 'walled garden' expression is pretty much meaningless.
You can make the argument that people who buy into the Apple ecosystem are locked into using Apple devices, if they want to continue using the apps they purchased from the Apple app store. Since I have never actually found an app worth buying, switching between platforms is not an issue for me. And I'll bet this is the case for many people.

Devices I currently own:
Samsung Galaxy S2
iPad 3
Nexus 7


Or that Apple can remotely brick your phone? That's no bueno.
 
2012-08-14 09:48:01 AM  

pxlboy: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Farking Canuck: bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.

Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.

Can you load apps from Apples app store on your Android device? No? Welcome to a walled garden.
Of course why would you want to load an iOS app on your Android device, since just about any app is available on both platforms.
The 'walled garden' expression is pretty much meaningless.
You can make the argument that people who buy into the Apple ecosystem are locked into using Apple devices, if they want to continue using the apps they purchased from the Apple app store. Since I have never actually found an app worth buying, switching between platforms is not an issue for me. And I'll bet this is the case for many people.

Devices I currently own:
Samsung Galaxy S2
iPad 3
Nexus 7

Or that Apple can remotely brick your phone? That's no bueno.


You can turn that 'feature' off. Android devices have a remote wipe option also.
 
2012-08-14 09:49:02 AM  
Had a Galaxy, thought it was crap, went to iPhone 4, very happy. You should too.
 
2012-08-14 09:49:52 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Can you load apps from Apples app store on your Android device? No? Welcome to a walled garden.
Of course why would you want to load an iOS app on your Android device, since just about any app is available on both platforms.


WTF?? I think you forgot your meds this morning. Who said anything about Android ... in fact I explicitly avoided mentioning competitors.

Apple's 'walled garden' philosophy is a fact ... they are proud of having a safe little area for their children users to play in. Sure, some jail-break their way out of this 'jail' but most don't.

I merely expressed my opinion that living in this 'safe', restricted world holds no interest to me.
 
2012-08-14 09:50:19 AM  
I liked Android, in theory. In practice ...

Maybe I have a crap phone (HTC Inspire). I'm glad it has a removable battery, as I've had to physically remove it a few dozen times now when the phone locks up and I can't do anything else. It's slow and sluggish, the Android Market just doesn't hold a candle to Apple in some respects (chiefly: GameCenter. To be able to easily play with friends, compare achievements, etc.. Android has nothing like it. And NO, mobage does not count.). The quality of apps is generally better I've found (even between the same app - compare Tiny Tower on iOS and Android, it's hands down better on iOS), probably due to Apple needing to approve it.

And as someone who owns a Macbook Pro and an iMac, the incentive to stick in the walled garden is a factor. It's nice when things just work sometimes.

Again, maybe the HTC Inspire has soured me on it all. It sucks that the phones evolve so fast, and that HTC has decided "no ICS for you". At least with Apple, there's a decent history of being allowed to run the next version of iOS on your device. I'm extremely hesitant about buying another phone, having it be obsolete in 6-9 months, and being told I'm not getting the next Android OS and if I want it, shell out for a new phone.

Anyway, I'm ready to throw this phone through a window. The only disappointing thing about what seems to be the new consensus iPhone is the screen size - I really wanted something wider. The screen size is a huge factor in why I switched to Android, and it may end up being enough in the end to keep me on it. We'll see. My co-worker has the Galaxy S3, and it does look pretty nice.

/open source web programmer.
//needs to stop playing the waste of time that is tiny tower
 
2012-08-14 09:52:22 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Nem Wan: But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.

The app store difference is a matter of philosophy. I'd prefer to take risks in the outside world than live in a sterilized cage. Sure, I might get hurt if I'm not careful, but I also have much greater opportunity.

That being said.... I wish I could lock most other computer and phone users in a sterilized cage. I don't mind taking risks and cleaning up my own messes when I goof up, but I'm not a fan of having to save everyone else when they do something stupid and don't know how to react.


In my younger days, I was never would have gone in for this "walled garden" nonsense....that was for non technical wieners who were too dumb not to screw up their device and needed to be spoon fed their applications.

Now I'm older...and I don't have the time/inclination to worry about this kind of thing. Playing around with gadgets plays a far smaller role in my life than it used to....and as such my priorities and preferences have changed. What I really like now, is a well designed, well screwed together device that will last me a good while and that I don't have to put much thought into. My 3GS was my first even Apple product (I thought the day would never come)...but a few years later, it still works fine and simply does what I need it to do. I don't have the need to chase down all of the latest functionality anymore, or to be the first one to make some feature work. Let someone else grunt it out....I'll download for free or a buck in a month when most of the bugs are worked out. I have other interests these days...
 
2012-08-14 09:54:02 AM  
I'm better than you because of the cell phone I own.
 
2012-08-14 09:55:47 AM  

H31N0US: mjohnson71: I need to replace my iPhone 3G that has served me well for almost 3 years and will finally get the iPhone 5 (or whatever it's called). But what grinds my gears is that when the iPhone 5 gets released I'll have a legion of Apple fanboys in front of me in line. They'll all be super anxious and acting like they're going to die because they just have to replace their 10 month old iPhone 4s' as soon as humanly possible.

So wait a couple months until the fanfare dies down.

Or get a Samsung.


Yeah, then no one will be in front of you in line.
 
2012-08-14 09:58:04 AM  

Sasquach: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Nem Wan: But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.

The app store difference is a matter of philosophy. I'd prefer to take risks in the outside world than live in a sterilized cage. Sure, I might get hurt if I'm not careful, but I also have much greater opportunity.

That being said.... I wish I could lock most other computer and phone users in a sterilized cage. I don't mind taking risks and cleaning up my own messes when I goof up, but I'm not a fan of having to save everyone else when they do something stupid and don't know how to react.

In my younger days, I was never would have gone in for this "walled garden" nonsense....that was for non technical wieners who were too dumb not to screw up their device and needed to be spoon fed their applications.



Now I'm older...and I don't have the time/inclination to worry about this kind of thing. Playing around with gadgets plays a far smaller role in my life than it used to....and as such my priorities and preferences have changed. What I really like now, is a well designed, well screwed together device that will last me a good while and that I don't have to put much thought into. My 3GS was my first even Apple product (I thought the day would never come)...but a few years later, it still works fine and simply does what I need it to do. I don't have the need to chase down all of the latest functionality anymore, or to be the first one to make some feature work. Let someone else grunt it out....I'll download for free or a buck in a month when most of the bugs are worked out. I have other interests these days...


I was going to say the same thing. In my days before marriage/kids, I'd be a lot more inclined to go the open source route, or jailbreak, tinker, what have you. Now, my life/priorities have changed, and I simply don't have the time to deal with it. I'll take the walled garden, so that when I take a photo with my phone, it shows up on my other devices and I don't have to futz with it, and I can easily play a quick 5 minute game with a friend online, etc.
 
2012-08-14 09:58:10 AM  

BilldaCat10: I liked Android, in theory. In practice ...

Maybe I have a crap phone (HTC Inspire). I'm glad it has a removable battery, as I've had to physically remove it a few dozen times now when the phone locks up and I can't do anything else. It's slow and sluggish, the Android Market just doesn't hold a candle to Apple in some respects (chiefly: GameCenter. To be able to easily play with friends, compare achievements, etc.. Android has nothing like it. And NO, mobage does not count.). The quality of apps is generally better I've found (even between the same app - compare Tiny Tower on iOS and Android, it's hands down better on iOS), probably due to Apple needing to approve it.

And as someone who owns a Macbook Pro and an iMac, the incentive to stick in the walled garden is a factor. It's nice when things just work sometimes.

Again, maybe the HTC Inspire has soured me on it all. It sucks that the phones evolve so fast, and that HTC has decided "no ICS for you". At least with Apple, there's a decent history of being allowed to run the next version of iOS on your device. I'm extremely hesitant about buying another phone, having it be obsolete in 6-9 months, and being told I'm not getting the next Android OS and if I want it, shell out for a new phone.

Anyway, I'm ready to throw this phone through a window. The only disappointing thing about what seems to be the new consensus iPhone is the screen size - I really wanted something wider. The screen size is a huge factor in why I switched to Android, and it may end up being enough in the end to keep me on it. We'll see. My co-worker has the Galaxy S3, and it does look pretty nice.

/open source web programmer.
//needs to stop playing the waste of time that is tiny tower


The Galaxy series are excellent pieces of hardware. I rooted and reflashed my S2 with Cyanogemod 7, but am now having stability issues with it. It won't take the CM7.2 update, either.

There is an ICS update available, but I don't know if I would have to unroot and all that crap. If screencapping would be left as a standard feature, I wouldn't have rooted in the first place.

Yes, and to have more access to the hardware just because I could. Looking back, I probably won't root and reflash again unless I have a compelling reason to.
 
2012-08-14 10:01:51 AM  

Farking Canuck: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Can you load apps from Apples app store on your Android device? No? Welcome to a walled garden.
Of course why would you want to load an iOS app on your Android device, since just about any app is available on both platforms.

WTF?? I think you forgot your meds this morning. Who said anything about Android ... in fact I explicitly avoided mentioning competitors.

Apple's 'walled garden' philosophy is a fact ... they are proud of having a safe little area for their children users to play in. Sure, some jail-break their way out of this 'jail' but most don't.

I merely expressed my opinion that living in this 'safe', restricted world holds no interest to me.


Since this is a thread about iPhones, I assumed you were talking about Android as being the other option, since I have never encountered someone that actually uses a Windows phone.
 
2012-08-14 10:05:12 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Farking Canuck: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Can you load apps from Apples app store on your Android device? No? Welcome to a walled garden.
Of course why would you want to load an iOS app on your Android device, since just about any app is available on both platforms.

WTF?? I think you forgot your meds this morning. Who said anything about Android ... in fact I explicitly avoided mentioning competitors.

Apple's 'walled garden' philosophy is a fact ... they are proud of having a safe little area for their children users to play in. Sure, some jail-break their way out of this 'jail' but most don't.

I merely expressed my opinion that living in this 'safe', restricted world holds no interest to me.

Since this is a thread about iPhones, I assumed you were talking about Android as being the other option, since I have never encountered someone that actually uses a Windows phone.


WinMo7 is weird. The fact that you have to hack your registry or connect it to a Linux box just to browse the device is incredibly stupid. They paired it with this crappy Zune software to manage data and contacts -- badly, I might add.
 
2012-08-14 10:13:36 AM  

Farking Canuck: Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.


So not owning a phone or a computer at all? What did you type this message on?

/you've always "lived" in a walled garden - get over it
 
2012-08-14 10:17:12 AM  

pxlboy: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Farking Canuck: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Can you load apps from Apples app store on your Android device? No? Welcome to a walled garden.
Of course why would you want to load an iOS app on your Android device, since just about any app is available on both platforms.

WTF?? I think you forgot your meds this morning. Who said anything about Android ... in fact I explicitly avoided mentioning competitors.

Apple's 'walled garden' philosophy is a fact ... they are proud of having a safe little area for their children users to play in. Sure, some jail-break their way out of this 'jail' but most don't.

I merely expressed my opinion that living in this 'safe', restricted world holds no interest to me.

Since this is a thread about iPhones, I assumed you were talking about Android as being the other option, since I have never encountered someone that actually uses a Windows phone.

WinMo7 is weird. The fact that you have to hack your registry or connect it to a Linux box just to browse the device is incredibly stupid. They paired it with this crappy Zune software to manage data and contacts -- badly, I might add.


The Win7.5 phone I played around with was just strange. I just did not like the tiles. They have all the charm of Windows Metro.
 
2012-08-14 10:18:31 AM  

pxlboy: BilldaCat10: I liked Android, in theory. In practice ...

Maybe I have a crap phone (HTC Inspire). I'm glad it has a removable battery, as I've had to physically remove it a few dozen times now when the phone locks up and I can't do anything else. It's slow and sluggish, the Android Market just doesn't hold a candle to Apple in some respects (chiefly: GameCenter. To be able to easily play with friends, compare achievements, etc.. Android has nothing like it. And NO, mobage does not count.). The quality of apps is generally better I've found (even between the same app - compare Tiny Tower on iOS and Android, it's hands down better on iOS), probably due to Apple needing to approve it.

And as someone who owns a Macbook Pro and an iMac, the incentive to stick in the walled garden is a factor. It's nice when things just work sometimes.

Again, maybe the HTC Inspire has soured me on it all. It sucks that the phones evolve so fast, and that HTC has decided "no ICS for you". At least with Apple, there's a decent history of being allowed to run the next version of iOS on your device. I'm extremely hesitant about buying another phone, having it be obsolete in 6-9 months, and being told I'm not getting the next Android OS and if I want it, shell out for a new phone.

Anyway, I'm ready to throw this phone through a window. The only disappointing thing about what seems to be the new consensus iPhone is the screen size - I really wanted something wider. The screen size is a huge factor in why I switched to Android, and it may end up being enough in the end to keep me on it. We'll see. My co-worker has the Galaxy S3, and it does look pretty nice.

/open source web programmer.
//needs to stop playing the waste of time that is tiny tower

The Galaxy series are excellent pieces of hardware. I rooted and reflashed my S2 with Cyanogemod 7, but am now having stability issues with it. It won't take the CM7.2 update, either.

There is an ICS update available, but I don't kn ...


I am on my 3rd Android phone. The 1st one I had was very meh. Rooted it and made it better. Then I got a Nexus S 4G. Solid phone but rooted it and made it better. Now I have a HTC EVO 4G. I have absolutely no desire to mess with it. Its all around solid and the battery lasts an absurdly long time (24+ hours with light to medium use).
 
2012-08-14 10:19:04 AM  

Farking Canuck: Apple's 'walled garden' philosophy is a fact ... they are proud of having a safe little area for their children users to play in. Sure, some jail-break their way out of this 'jail' but most don't.

I merely expressed my opinion that living in this 'safe', restricted world holds no interest to me.


If one has to "jailbreak" anything to make it useful to them - than something is very seriously wrong. I don't jailbreak my refrigerator or my car. I buy a tool to get a job done because I have a life to live, work to do, and beer to drink. I'm continuously amused by people who by Android based devices with 3 seconds of battery life and having to break into the phone to remove the crap off them. Life it too short dude to deal with such shiat.

/pats little Farking Canuck on the head
 
2012-08-14 10:20:18 AM  

BilldaCat10: I liked Android, in theory. In practice ...

Maybe I have a crap phone (HTC Inspire). I'm glad it has a removable battery, as I've had to physically remove it a few dozen times now when the phone locks up and I can't do anything else. It's slow and sluggish, the Android Market just doesn't hold a candle to Apple in some respects (chiefly: GameCenter. To be able to easily play with friends, compare achievements, etc.. Android has nothing like it. And NO, mobage does not count.). The quality of apps is generally better I've found (even between the same app - compare Tiny Tower on iOS and Android, it's hands down better on iOS), probably due to Apple needing to approve it.

And as someone who owns a Macbook Pro and an iMac, the incentive to stick in the walled garden is a factor. It's nice when things just work sometimes.

Again, maybe the HTC Inspire has soured me on it all. It sucks that the phones evolve so fast, and that HTC has decided "no ICS for you". At least with Apple, there's a decent history of being allowed to run the next version of iOS on your device. I'm extremely hesitant about buying another phone, having it be obsolete in 6-9 months, and being told I'm not getting the next Android OS and if I want it, shell out for a new phone.

Anyway, I'm ready to throw this phone through a window. The only disappointing thing about what seems to be the new consensus iPhone is the screen size - I really wanted something wider. The screen size is a huge factor in why I switched to Android, and it may end up being enough in the end to keep me on it. We'll see. My co-worker has the Galaxy S3, and it does look pretty nice.

/open source web programmer.
//needs to stop playing the waste of time that is tiny tower


The root of your problem is mostly AT&T and a little HTC. Android is not the issue. Everybody with the Inspire is used to having to yank the battery. But wait, it gets better. DO NOT INSTALL THE 2.3.5 UPDATE! The 2.3.4 version they released a year ago may be buggy but at least it was functional. Somehow they managed to completely break a bunch of the Inspires with an extremely small incremental update. As in the phones now boot loop and lock up hard. You could have nearly any Android phone other than the Inspire and not have the problems you are having.

Basically unless you are playing with some funky software most phones won't lock up. AT&T just loves to shove all kinds of extra garbage onto the phones and ruin things. Now that they managed to break my phone I'm going to have to see what AT&T replaces it with. If I get a choice I'm going with an Atrix 2. A cell phone I can plug into a HDMI cable and USB hub and use as a full desktop PC? Yes please! Look up Motorollas webtop stuff if you haven't hear about it. Pure awesomeness. And the most interesting part to consider is Google now owns it so it might be going mainline into future Android versions.
 
2012-08-14 10:21:46 AM  
I have an iPhone 4S. A coworker has a Samsung Galaxy II. Both phones are pretty awesome.

/I think the Samsung has the best Korean language support (he's Korean, so.....yeah. Kind of important.)
//Both platforms have Final Fantasy I, II, and III available, as well.
///IT'S A TIE!
 
2012-08-14 10:23:45 AM  

Theaetetus: Yeah, then no one will be in front of you in line.


The less I am associated with the kind of dumbass who would stand in line to buy an overpriced / under-capable piece of Guangzhou made gadgetry, the better.

To be fair though the last couple Verizon stores I visited were out of S3s at the time but the one on 42nd street has since got some in.
 
2012-08-14 10:24:59 AM  

gingerjet: Farking Canuck: Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.

So not owning a phone or a computer at all? What did you type this message on?

/you've always "lived" in a walled garden - get over it


Sure ... like my physically living on Earth is the same as living in a prison on Earth. They're both 'walled gardens' so prisoners should just get over it.

Fun game ... widening the definitions of terms such that they become meaningless.

Or you can admit that Apple is proud of their censorship system. All the steps that they take to offer a simple, stable solution (which many people want). This 'walled garden' Apple has gone to great effort to create and advertise which you seem to want to deny and dismiss.

It is what they have always done and it works for the audience that appreciate it.

It does not work for me. I like to have choice in phones (screen size, physical keyboard, standard USB connectors, etc.) and complete freedom in software (I hate censorship).

Your knee-jerk reaction smells a bit like a fanboi ... but at least you have a choice to be that.
 
2012-08-14 10:25:00 AM  
Just cracked the screen on my Nokia Lumina.
Now what?
 
2012-08-14 10:30:06 AM  
Regardless of iOS/Android for my next phone, I'm pretty sure I'll just shell out the cost of the device and not deal with another 2 year contract.
 
2012-08-14 10:31:12 AM  

Farking Canuck: gingerjet: Farking Canuck: Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.

So not owning a phone or a computer at all? What did you type this message on?

/you've always "lived" in a walled garden - get over it

Sure ... like my physically living on Earth is the same as living in a prison on Earth. They're both 'walled gardens' so prisoners should just get over it.

Fun game ... widening the definitions of terms such that they become meaningless.

Or you can admit that Apple is proud of their censorship system. All the steps that they take to offer a simple, stable solution (which many people want). This 'walled garden' Apple has gone to great effort to create and advertise which you seem to want to deny and dismiss.

It is what they have always done and it works for the audience that appreciate it.

It does not work for me. I like to have choice in phones (screen size, physical keyboard, standard USB connectors, etc.) and complete freedom in software (I hate censorship).

Your knee-jerk reaction smells a bit like a fanboi ... but at least you have a choice to be that.


i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-08-14 10:33:27 AM  
The iPhone5 has already been lost at least once.

Too bad the knucklehead who found it turned it on at home rather than at a Starbucks or something.
 
2012-08-14 10:43:44 AM  

Theaetetus: H31N0US: mjohnson71: I need to replace my iPhone 3G that has served me well for almost 3 years and will finally get the iPhone 5 (or whatever it's called). But what grinds my gears is that when the iPhone 5 gets released I'll have a legion of Apple fanboys in front of me in line. They'll all be super anxious and acting like they're going to die because they just have to replace their 10 month old iPhone 4s' as soon as humanly possible.

So wait a couple months until the fanfare dies down.

Or get a Samsung.

Yeah, then no one will be in front of you in line.


Exactly. No one wants those. Why they have hardly sold any at all.
 
2012-08-14 10:46:00 AM  
I used to care about the difference between Macs and PCs. Then I started getting laid. Now I'm only slightly annoyed by the difference. Not enough to argue about it but enough to post and explain this. Also, I got chlamydia.
 
2012-08-14 10:46:49 AM  

BilldaCat10: Sasquach: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Nem Wan: But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.

I was going to say the same thing. In my days before marriage/kids, I'd be a lot more inclined to go the open source route, or jailbreak, tinker, what have you. Now, my life/priorities have changed, and I simply don't have the time to deal with it. I'll take the walled garden, so that when I take a photo with my phone, it shows up on my other devices and I don't have to fut ...


Isn't it funny what getting older can do to you? How your time becomes way more valuable....and an hour of loading this and updating that just seems like such a waste.
 
2012-08-14 10:47:57 AM  

Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: I used to care about the difference between Macs and PCs. Then I started getting laid. Now I'm only slightly annoyed by the difference. Not enough to argue about it but enough to post and explain this. Also, I got chlamydia.


If you had been more open to trojans, you wouldn't have gotten a virus.
 
2012-08-14 10:56:50 AM  

Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: I used to care about the difference between Macs and PCs. Then I started getting laid. Now I'm only slightly annoyed by the difference. Not enough to argue about it but enough to post and explain this. Also, I got chlamydia.



Chlamydia 4.5 or 5.1?
 
2012-08-14 10:57:54 AM  

Farking Canuck: bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.

Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.


Farking Canuck 1962: I'm not gonna buy this telephone, who are they to tell me that I can only use it to speak with others who are on the PSTN?
Farking Canuck 1972: I'm not gonna buy this TV, why would I want a device that can only receive VHF and UHF signals?
Farking Canuck 1982: I'm not gonna by an Atari, who are they to tell me I can't use my Coleco cartridges on it?
Farking Canuck 1992: I'm not gonna buy this car; it's well-built and gets great mileage, but the dashboard won't let me replace the factory-installed stereo! Fark that corporate lock-in!
Farking Canuck 2002: I'm not gonna buy this DVD player, who are they to restrict me to NTSC-formatted discs and not let me use the pirated ones I bought in Bangkok?
Farking Canuck 2012: I'm not gonna buy this phone, who are they to limit me to 500,000 apps? Farking freedom-restricting Nazis, that's what they are!
 
2012-08-14 11:10:09 AM  
Hmmm, do I go with a pre-order or wait until my birthday on the 26th to try to get one...

Actually, I don't like the idea of buying from the first batch of anything, Apple or otherwise. That's where the highest defect rates are.
 
2012-08-14 11:12:00 AM  

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: 1962


You sound old.

And no, I am not going to buy a product that intentionally blocks me from doing what I want when there are alternatives that do not have these blocks. Especially when the alternatives also let me choose a whole variety of other hardware options as an added bonus.

If these limits do not bother you then go ahead and purchase an i-product.

This is all I am saying and yet look at all the sandy vaginas coming out of the woodwork.

"Oh no! Someone on the internet doesn't like what I like! Must attack!! To the keyboards!!!!"
 
2012-08-14 11:13:50 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: I used to care about the difference between Macs and PCs. Then I started getting laid. Now I'm only slightly annoyed by the difference. Not enough to argue about it but enough to post and explain this. Also, I got chlamydia.


Chlamydia 4.5 or 5.1?


I'm not going to have an argument about The Silent Disease.
 
2012-08-14 11:20:27 AM  

Farking Canuck: Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: 1962

You sound old.

And no, I am not going to buy a product that intentionally blocks me from doing what I want when there are alternatives that do not have these blocks. Especially when the alternatives also let me choose a whole variety of other hardware options as an added bonus.

If these limits do not bother you then go ahead and purchase an i-product.

This is all I am saying and yet look at all the sandy vaginas coming out of the woodwork.

"Oh no! Someone on the internet doesn't like what I like! Must attack!! To the keyboards!!!!"


Poe's law in action.
 
2012-08-14 11:25:47 AM  

Farking Canuck: Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: 1962

You sound old.

And no, I am not going to buy a product that intentionally blocks me from doing what I want when there are alternatives that do not have these blocks. Especially when the alternatives also let me choose a whole variety of other hardware options as an added bonus.

If these limits do not bother you then go ahead and purchase an i-product.

This is all I am saying and yet look at all the sandy vaginas coming out of the woodwork.

"Oh no! Someone on the internet doesn't like what I like! Must attack!! To the keyboards!!!!"


Funny since you started this with your post (the 4th one in the thread)
 
2012-08-14 11:36:32 AM  
You know you are a fan-boy when you are looking for iPhones in a bar and not women.
 
2012-08-14 11:46:01 AM  

Sasquach: BilldaCat10: Sasquach: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Nem Wan: But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.

I was going to say the same thing. In my days before marriage/kids, I'd be a lot more inclined to go the open source route, or jailbreak, tinker, what have you. Now, my life/priorities have changed, and I simply don't have the time to deal with it. I'll take the walled garden, so that when I take a photo with my phone, it shows up on my other devices and I don't have to fut ...

Isn't it funny what getting older can do to you? How your time becomes way more valuable....and an hour of loading this and updating that just seems like such a waste.


Yep. And to think of the stuff I blew money on back in the day.. such as getting a paint job on my ice hockey goalie mask done for $600 or something. That's a month and a half of pre-school now. What was I thinking?!

/old
 
2012-08-14 11:49:23 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Funny since you started this with your post (the 4th one in the thread)


I posted when I was going to get a new iPhone (not likely ever) in response to someone else's post about when they were going to get one.

Sacrilege ... it is almost like I dared to have my own opinion or something.
 
2012-08-14 12:09:12 PM  

pxlboy: BilldaCat10: I liked Android, in theory. In practice ...

Maybe I have a crap phone (HTC Inspire). I'm glad it has a removable battery, as I've had to physically remove it a few dozen times now when the phone locks up and I can't do anything else. It's slow and sluggish, the Android Market just doesn't hold a candle to Apple in some respects (chiefly: GameCenter. To be able to easily play with friends, compare achievements, etc.. Android has nothing like it. And NO, mobage does not count.). The quality of apps is generally better I've found (even between the same app - compare Tiny Tower on iOS and Android, it's hands down better on iOS), probably due to Apple needing to approve it.

And as someone who owns a Macbook Pro and an iMac, the incentive to stick in the walled garden is a factor. It's nice when things just work sometimes.

Again, maybe the HTC Inspire has soured me on it all. It sucks that the phones evolve so fast, and that HTC has decided "no ICS for you". At least with Apple, there's a decent history of being allowed to run the next version of iOS on your device. I'm extremely hesitant about buying another phone, having it be obsolete in 6-9 months, and being told I'm not getting the next Android OS and if I want it, shell out for a new phone.

Anyway, I'm ready to throw this phone through a window. The only disappointing thing about what seems to be the new consensus iPhone is the screen size - I really wanted something wider. The screen size is a huge factor in why I switched to Android, and it may end up being enough in the end to keep me on it. We'll see. My co-worker has the Galaxy S3, and it does look pretty nice.

/open source web programmer.
//needs to stop playing the waste of time that is tiny tower

The Galaxy series are excellent pieces of hardware. I rooted and reflashed my S2 with Cyanogemod 7, but am now having stability issues with it. It won't take the CM7.2 update, either.

There is an ICS update available, but I don't kn ...


We are on 9 and 10 you know? That's your issue...
 
2012-08-14 12:32:41 PM  

WhippingBoy: I'm better than you because of the cell phone I own.


Well, I farked your wife...
 
2012-08-14 01:20:35 PM  

mjohnson71: I need to replace my iPhone 3G that has served me well for almost 3 years and will finally get the iPhone 5 (or whatever it's called). But what grinds my gears is that when the iPhone 5 gets released I'll have a legion of Apple fanboys in front of me in line. They'll all be super anxious and acting like they're going to die because they just have to replace their 10 month old iPhone 4s' as soon as humanly possible.


I was on my way through the mall to get a 4S on opening day. There were 50 people in line at the Apple Store but only one at the AT&T store. I only had a 90 second wait. They also grandfathered in my unlimited data plan.
 
2012-08-14 02:43:21 PM  

Farking Canuck: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Funny since you started this with your post (the 4th one in the thread)

I posted when I was going to get a new iPhone (not likely ever) in response to someone else's post about when they were going to get one.

Sacrilege ... it is almost like I dared to have my own opinion or something.


You are what you hate
 
2012-08-14 02:58:52 PM  

bighairyguy: mjohnson71: I need to replace my iPhone 3G that has served me well for almost 3 years and will finally get the iPhone 5 (or whatever it's called). But what grinds my gears is that when the iPhone 5 gets released I'll have a legion of Apple fanboys in front of me in line. They'll all be super anxious and acting like they're going to die because they just have to replace their 10 month old iPhone 4s' as soon as humanly possible.

I was on my way through the mall to get a 4S on opening day. There were 50 people in line at the Apple Store but only one at the AT&T store. I only had a 90 second wait. They also grandfathered in my unlimited data plan.


Well you missed the experience of waiting in line for your new phone, you may as well just bought a dried up piece of dog poop! Some iFan you are!

P.S: Nice to see Theaetetus in here white-knighting for Apple again.
 
2012-08-14 03:28:45 PM  

stonicus: WhippingBoy: I'm better than you because of the cell phone I own.

Well, I farked your wife...


Was she good? It's been so long that I've forgotten.
 
2012-08-14 03:35:25 PM  

RAWISRADFORD: You are what you hate


What are you? The Sphinx??

"To learn my teachings, I must first teach you how to learn."
"He who questions training only trains himself at asking questions."
"You must be like wolf pack, not six-pack."

Any other meaningless drivel you'd like to share?
 
2012-08-14 03:51:04 PM  

Pick: Had a Galaxy, thought it was crap, went to iPhone 4, very happy. You should too.


I'm going to call BS on that. Which Galaxy are we talking about? Galaxy S3 blows everything else out of the water. It's an amazing phone.
 
2012-08-14 04:01:16 PM  
Sweet dollars, but this incremental technology thingie is swell.
 
2012-08-14 04:39:19 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Farking Canuck: bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.

Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.

Can you load apps from Apples app store on your Android device? No? Welcome to a walled garden.
Of course why would you want to load an iOS app on your Android device, since just about any app is available on both platforms.
The 'walled garden' expression is pretty much meaningless.
You can make the argument that people who buy into the Apple ecosystem are locked into using Apple devices, if they want to continue using the apps they purchased from the Apple app store. Since I have never actually found an app worth buying, switching between platforms is not an issue for me. And I'll bet this is the case for many people.

Devices I currently own:
Samsung Galaxy S2
iPad 3
Nexus 7


False equivalency. Apple won't let the apps out, it has nothing to do with Android not letting them in.

Plus most apps that cost money on Apple are free on Android.
 
2012-08-14 04:42:35 PM  

BilldaCat10: I liked Android, in theory. In practice ...

Maybe I have a crap phone (HTC Inspire). I'm glad it has a removable battery, as I've had to physically remove it a few dozen times now when the phone locks up and I can't do anything else. It's slow and sluggish, the Android Market just doesn't hold a candle to Apple in some respects (chiefly: GameCenter. To be able to easily play with friends, compare achievements, etc.. Android has nothing like it. And NO, mobage does not count.). The quality of apps is generally better I've found (even between the same app - compare Tiny Tower on iOS and Android, it's hands down better on iOS), probably due to Apple needing to approve it.

And as someone who owns a Macbook Pro and an iMac, the incentive to stick in the walled garden is a factor. It's nice when things just work sometimes.

Again, maybe the HTC Inspire has soured me on it all. It sucks that the phones evolve so fast, and that HTC has decided "no ICS for you". At least with Apple, there's a decent history of being allowed to run the next version of iOS on your device. I'm extremely hesitant about buying another phone, having it be obsolete in 6-9 months, and being told I'm not getting the next Android OS and if I want it, shell out for a new phone.

Anyway, I'm ready to throw this phone through a window. The only disappointing thing about what seems to be the new consensus iPhone is the screen size - I really wanted something wider. The screen size is a huge factor in why I switched to Android, and it may end up being enough in the end to keep me on it. We'll see. My co-worker has the Galaxy S3, and it does look pretty nice.

/open source web programmer.
//needs to stop playing the waste of time that is tiny tower


Complains that HTC Inspire (cheapy piece of shiat phone) runs slow, then complains that HTC won't let him upgrade to a newer OS that doesn't support his cheapy shiat hardware. LULZ.

Not sure if you're a troll or just completely computer illiterate.

/My Packard Bell computer circa 1991 won't run Windows 8!!! Microsoft sucks!
 
2012-08-14 04:44:55 PM  

Theaetetus: H31N0US: mjohnson71: I need to replace my iPhone 3G that has served me well for almost 3 years and will finally get the iPhone 5 (or whatever it's called). But what grinds my gears is that when the iPhone 5 gets released I'll have a legion of Apple fanboys in front of me in line. They'll all be super anxious and acting like they're going to die because they just have to replace their 10 month old iPhone 4s' as soon as humanly possible.

So wait a couple months until the fanfare dies down.

Or get a Samsung.

Yeah, then no one will be in front of you in line.


Apple has lines because the concept of inventory management evades them. They'll catch up to early 90s business strategy eventually.
 
2012-08-14 04:48:15 PM  

gingerjet: Farking Canuck: Apple's 'walled garden' philosophy is a fact ... they are proud of having a safe little area for their children users to play in. Sure, some jail-break their way out of this 'jail' but most don't.

I merely expressed my opinion that living in this 'safe', restricted world holds no interest to me.

If one has to "jailbreak" anything to make it useful to them - than something is very seriously wrong. I don't jailbreak my refrigerator or my car. I buy a tool to get a job done because I have a life to live, work to do, and beer to drink. I'm continuously amused by people who by Android based devices with 3 seconds of battery life and having to break into the phone to remove the crap off them. Life it too short dude to deal with such shiat.

/pats little Farking Canuck on the head


If you've ever changed the temperature knob on your fridge/freezer, then you've jailbroken your refrigerator. Android devices cannot be jailbroken, only rooted. There are no limitations on Android devices.
 
2012-08-14 04:52:24 PM  

Sasquach: BilldaCat10: Sasquach: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Nem Wan: But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.

I was going to say the same thing. In my days before marriage/kids, I'd be a lot more inclined to go the open source route, or jailbreak, tinker, what have you. Now, my life/priorities have changed, and I simply don't have the time to deal with it. I'll take the walled garden, so that when I take a photo with my phone, it shows up on my other devices and I don't have to fut ...

Isn't it funny what getting older can do to you? How your time becomes way more valuable....and an hour of loading this and updating that just seems like such a waste.


More like when you get older you get worse at time management because you don't keep up with current technology.

My mom spends an hour each month writing checks and sealing envelopes to pay bills. I load up my bank app, type in the dollar values and hit send. The bank prints checks, addresses and sends them for me.
 
2012-08-14 04:56:12 PM  

bighairyguy: mjohnson71: I need to replace my iPhone 3G that has served me well for almost 3 years and will finally get the iPhone 5 (or whatever it's called). But what grinds my gears is that when the iPhone 5 gets released I'll have a legion of Apple fanboys in front of me in line. They'll all be super anxious and acting like they're going to die because they just have to replace their 10 month old iPhone 4s' as soon as humanly possible.

I was on my way through the mall to get a 4S on opening day. There were 50 people in line at the Apple Store but only one at the AT&T store. I only had a 90 second wait. They also grandfathered in my unlimited data plan.


Dude if you don't buy your iPhone at the Apple store it isn't a real iPhone. You have to construct a shrine facing toward Apple headquarters and sacrifice a goat to Steve Jobs to get into Genius Heaven.
 
2012-08-14 05:10:39 PM  

Bullseyed: BilldaCat10: I liked Android, in theory. In practice ...

Maybe I have a crap phone (HTC Inspire). I'm glad it has a removable battery, as I've had to physically remove it a few dozen times now when the phone locks up and I can't do anything else. It's slow and sluggish, the Android Market just doesn't hold a candle to Apple in some respects (chiefly: GameCenter. To be able to easily play with friends, compare achievements, etc.. Android has nothing like it. And NO, mobage does not count.). The quality of apps is generally better I've found (even between the same app - compare Tiny Tower on iOS and Android, it's hands down better on iOS), probably due to Apple needing to approve it.

And as someone who owns a Macbook Pro and an iMac, the incentive to stick in the walled garden is a factor. It's nice when things just work sometimes.

Again, maybe the HTC Inspire has soured me on it all. It sucks that the phones evolve so fast, and that HTC has decided "no ICS for you". At least with Apple, there's a decent history of being allowed to run the next version of iOS on your device. I'm extremely hesitant about buying another phone, having it be obsolete in 6-9 months, and being told I'm not getting the next Android OS and if I want it, shell out for a new phone.

Anyway, I'm ready to throw this phone through a window. The only disappointing thing about what seems to be the new consensus iPhone is the screen size - I really wanted something wider. The screen size is a huge factor in why I switched to Android, and it may end up being enough in the end to keep me on it. We'll see. My co-worker has the Galaxy S3, and it does look pretty nice.

/open source web programmer.
//needs to stop playing the waste of time that is tiny tower

Complains that HTC Inspire (cheapy piece of shiat phone) runs slow, then complains that HTC won't let him upgrade to a newer OS that doesn't support his cheapy shiat hardware. LULZ.

Not sure if you're a troll or just completely comp ...


It wasn't cheap or slow (processor wise) when it came out. In fact there are still phones being released with less RAM and slower CPUs. There is absolutely no technical reason it can't support Android 4.0 or 4.1 HTC even said they were going to release 4.0 for it and had a working version and then decided to not release it. The only reason it runs slow is all the bundled garbage AT&T insisted on jamming into it and ruining a perfectly good phone. Oh, and when the Inspire was released last year it was 600 dollars. If that is a "cheapy" phone then what do you consider to be an expensive one?
 
2012-08-14 05:10:52 PM  
iTunes....
LOL
 
2012-08-14 05:25:31 PM  

Hacker_X: It wasn't cheap or slow (processor wise) when it came out. In fact there are still phones being released with less RAM and slower CPUs. There is absolutely no technical reason it can't support Android 4.0 or 4.1 HTC even said they were going to release 4.0 for it and had a working version and then decided to not release it. The only reason it runs slow is all the bundled garbage AT&T insisted on jamming into it and ruining a perfectly good phone. Oh, and when the Inspire was released last year it was 600 dollars. If that is a "cheapy" phone then what do you consider to be an expensive one?


The introductory price was $99.99 with a 2 year contract. In my experience any phone that is under $150 isn't worth buying if you're interested in something that will last.

If you bought the HTC Inspire when it came out, you made an uneducated purchasing decision. That fall there was a 25% uptick in phone specs. The Galaxy S2 came out with 1 gig ram (compared to 768 MB) and a 1.2 gig hz dual core processor (compared to a 1.0 gig hz processor).

Inspire launched with Android 2.2.1 (Froyo) when Gingerbread was nearly ready to market. That is like buying a 2.3.5 phone last February when everyone knew 4.0 was ready.
 
2012-08-14 05:27:33 PM  
You don't really need the Zune software. If you're linked to a hotmail/live/outlook account it is all sync'd through there. Same with Skydrive, it's a great feature.

I love the facebook sync. It automatically links my accounts and updates their pictures that are their profile pictures.

pxlboy: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Farking Canuck: Abe Vigoda's Ghost:WinMo7 is weird. The fact that you have to hack your registry or connect it to a Linux box just to browse the device is incredibly stupid. They paired it with this crappy Zune software to manage data and contacts -- badly, I might add.

 
2012-08-14 07:35:56 PM  

Bullseyed: Hacker_X: It wasn't cheap or slow (processor wise) when it came out. In fact there are still phones being released with less RAM and slower CPUs. There is absolutely no technical reason it can't support Android 4.0 or 4.1 HTC even said they were going to release 4.0 for it and had a working version and then decided to not release it. The only reason it runs slow is all the bundled garbage AT&T insisted on jamming into it and ruining a perfectly good phone. Oh, and when the Inspire was released last year it was 600 dollars. If that is a "cheapy" phone then what do you consider to be an expensive one?

The introductory price was $99.99 with a 2 year contract. In my experience any phone that is under $150 isn't worth buying if you're interested in something that will last.

If you bought the HTC Inspire when it came out, you made an uneducated purchasing decision. That fall there was a 25% uptick in phone specs.


There is always something newer coming. Saying a person made an uneducated purchase rather than waiting on something with better specs makes you sound like a total douchebag. The part where you claim that any phone under 150 with a contract isn't worth it makes you sound like a snob especially given that not everybody bothers with a contract and that contract pricing for phones is rather arbitrary and changes quite rapidly.

So what we have established is that you are a douchebag snob that thinks nobody should buy a new phone when they need a new one and that everybody other than you should wait in perpetuity for the next big thing.

Meanwhile, those of us living in the real world buy phones when we need them because we use them as communications devices. When people rely on being able to contact you in an emergency you don't wait 6 months for a better phone to replace the one that just broke.
 
2012-08-14 08:12:18 PM  

Bullseyed: BilldaCat10: I liked Android, in theory. In practice ...

Maybe I have a crap phone (HTC Inspire). I'm glad it has a removable battery, as I've had to physically remove it a few dozen times now when the phone locks up and I can't do anything else. It's slow and sluggish, the Android Market just doesn't hold a candle to Apple in some respects (chiefly: GameCenter. To be able to easily play with friends, compare achievements, etc.. Android has nothing like it. And NO, mobage does not count.). The quality of apps is generally better I've found (even between the same app - compare Tiny Tower on iOS and Android, it's hands down better on iOS), probably due to Apple needing to approve it.

And as someone who owns a Macbook Pro and an iMac, the incentive to stick in the walled garden is a factor. It's nice when things just work sometimes.

Again, maybe the HTC Inspire has soured me on it all. It sucks that the phones evolve so fast, and that HTC has decided "no ICS for you". At least with Apple, there's a decent history of being allowed to run the next version of iOS on your device. I'm extremely hesitant about buying another phone, having it be obsolete in 6-9 months, and being told I'm not getting the next Android OS and if I want it, shell out for a new phone.

Anyway, I'm ready to throw this phone through a window. The only disappointing thing about what seems to be the new consensus iPhone is the screen size - I really wanted something wider. The screen size is a huge factor in why I switched to Android, and it may end up being enough in the end to keep me on it. We'll see. My co-worker has the Galaxy S3, and it does look pretty nice.

/open source web programmer.
//needs to stop playing the waste of time that is tiny tower

Complains that HTC Inspire (cheapy piece of shiat phone) runs slow, then complains that HTC won't let him upgrade to a newer OS that doesn't support his cheapy shiat hardware. LULZ.

Not sure if you're a troll or just completely comp ...


I don't think phones should go that obsolete that fast. The fact that a HTC Inspire which came out in Feb. 2011 is 'cheapy shiat' is the problem - my phone, which isn't even out of the normal 2 year contract for cell phones, has already been abandoned by my carrier.

Has any iPhone ceased to been supported in that small of a timeframe? I'm not 100% sure, but I suspect the answer is no.
 
2012-08-14 08:22:56 PM  

Bullseyed: My Packard Bell computer circa 1991 won't run Windows 8!!! Microsoft sucks!


my Casio wrist watch won't run Linux. f*ck that shiat
 
2012-08-14 09:15:26 PM  

The Banana Thug: Pick: Had a Galaxy, thought it was crap, went to iPhone 4, very happy. You should too.

I'm going to call BS on that. Which Galaxy are we talking about? Galaxy S3 blows everything else out of the water. It's an amazing phone.


Spec wise it's an amazing phone but it has that horrid TouchWiz on it not to mention it has physical buttons and Samsung went with the old layout of having a settings button. I have the phone personally, in fact my job is to test out all the latest and greatest across the networks and I really am trying to like the SG3 but even with CM9/10 it's still a dog because of the way they laid out the buttons. The screen is gorgeous though don't get me wrong. I also have the unfortunately pleasure of having the Verizon Sg3 so my bootloader is locked and to get into CM9/10 you have to do the kexec double boot BS. I'm probably going to back to my Galaxy Nexus and then use the iPhone 5 when it comes out for awhile, I haven't had a full time iPhone in my pocket for a decent long time and I'm excited about the LTE in the phone option now.
 
2012-08-15 09:18:08 AM  

BilldaCat10: Has any iPhone ceased to been supported in that small of a timeframe? I'm not 100% sure, but I suspect the answer is no.


Because the maker of the OS is ordering the assembly of the hardware. New OS = new hardware.


Buying the HTC Inspire would be like buying a new Windows 7 PC on August 31st, knowing that Windows 8 is launching this fall.
 
2012-08-15 09:19:43 AM  

TheGhostofFarkPast: then use the iPhone 5 when it comes out for awhile, I haven't had a full time iPhone in my pocket for a decent long time and I'm excited about the LTE in the phone option now.


Yeah. Apple is only what 2 years behind on having a 4G phone?

/leading from behind I suppose
 
2012-08-15 10:18:14 AM  

Bullseyed: BilldaCat10: Has any iPhone ceased to been supported in that small of a timeframe? I'm not 100% sure, but I suspect the answer is no.

Because the maker of the OS is ordering the assembly of the hardware. New OS = new hardware.


Buying the HTC Inspire would be like buying a new Windows 7 PC on August 31st, knowing that Windows 8 is launching this fall.


As someone else had said already, there is ALWAYS a new Android phone around the corner. HTC releases handsets on a monthly basis at times it seems. At some point you have to stop waiting and buy.

The lack of commitment is probably enough to keep me away and deal with the smaller screen size. I'm not going to drop $ on a Galaxy SIII and have it be abandoned again 9 months down the road.
 
2012-08-15 10:31:00 AM  

BilldaCat10: Bullseyed: BilldaCat10: Has any iPhone ceased to been supported in that small of a timeframe? I'm not 100% sure, but I suspect the answer is no.

Because the maker of the OS is ordering the assembly of the hardware. New OS = new hardware.


Buying the HTC Inspire would be like buying a new Windows 7 PC on August 31st, knowing that Windows 8 is launching this fall.

As someone else had said already, there is ALWAYS a new Android phone around the corner. HTC releases handsets on a monthly basis at times it seems. At some point you have to stop waiting and buy.

The lack of commitment is probably enough to keep me away and deal with the smaller screen size. I'm not going to drop $ on a Galaxy SIII and have it be abandoned again 9 months down the road.


You are throwing a generalization on a very specific example.

He is not talking about a vague threat of something better being around the corner. He is talking about seeing the next thing right in front of you, almost in reach but deciding on going with the old thing instead - and then complaining that it is old.

It is not a smooth curve ... sometimes things go up in a step and purchasing just before that step is a bad idea.
 
2012-08-15 11:22:03 AM  

BilldaCat10: As someone else had said already, there is ALWAYS a new Android phone around the corner. HTC releases handsets on a monthly basis at times it seems. At some point you have to stop waiting and buy.

The lack of commitment is probably enough to keep me away and deal with the smaller screen size. I'm not going to drop $ on a Galaxy SIII and have it be abandoned again 9 months down the road.


You have to be intelligent about when you buy. Wait for the first phones with the new Android OS to launch and buy the second wave. The Galaxy S3 is the first "preloaded with ICS" phone for Samsung, so it is a good buy. The only change that might happen is a phone that does quad core like the non-USA Galaxy S3, but in all honesty that isn't a big shift.

Jellybean is out for developers, but won't be on phones sold in store by Samsung for at least a year.
 
2012-08-15 11:24:54 AM  

Farking Canuck: You are throwing a generalization on a very specific example.

He is not talking about a vague threat of something better being around the corner. He is talking about seeing the next thing right in front of you, almost in reach but deciding on going with the old thing instead - and then complaining that it is old.

It is not a smooth curve ... sometimes things go up in a step and purchasing just before that step is a bad idea.


This. I specifically waited for the second wave of Android Gingerbread phones with dual core processors. That is why I own a Galaxy S2. It has since updated to ICS and runs fine. I want the Galaxy S3 so badly, but I'm fine with waiting for the Galaxy S4 which will likely come out just after Google releases a Jelly Bean phone in about a year from now. I'm just about a year in on the S2 and have no issues with running slowly or lack of features. My phone can do anything any other phone can do, but isn't the latest and greatest phone on the market.
 
2012-08-15 12:41:01 PM  

Farking Canuck: BilldaCat10: Bullseyed: BilldaCat10: Has any iPhone ceased to been supported in that small of a timeframe? I'm not 100% sure, but I suspect the answer is no.

Because the maker of the OS is ordering the assembly of the hardware. New OS = new hardware.


Buying the HTC Inspire would be like buying a new Windows 7 PC on August 31st, knowing that Windows 8 is launching this fall.

As someone else had said already, there is ALWAYS a new Android phone around the corner. HTC releases handsets on a monthly basis at times it seems. At some point you have to stop waiting and buy.

The lack of commitment is probably enough to keep me away and deal with the smaller screen size. I'm not going to drop $ on a Galaxy SIII and have it be abandoned again 9 months down the road.

You are throwing a generalization on a very specific example.

He is not talking about a vague threat of something better being around the corner. He is talking about seeing the next thing right in front of you, almost in reach but deciding on going with the old thing instead - and then complaining that it is old.

It is not a smooth curve ... sometimes things go up in a step and purchasing just before that step is a bad idea.


Perhaps I fell for the marketing hype - The HTC Inspire was AT&T's first 4g phone, had the largest screen at the time, was the first running Android 2.2, and they pushed it as such. I still think that type of phone should last longer than it effectively has.
 
2012-08-15 02:56:07 PM  

BilldaCat10: Perhaps I fell for the marketing hype - The HTC Inspire was AT&T's first 4g phone, had the largest screen at the time, was the first running Android 2.2, and they pushed it as such. I still think that type of phone should last longer than it effectively has.


First is usually code for bad. That is how innovation works when you don't have patent trolls like Apple around.
 
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