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2012-08-14 08:39:51 AM
Pre-sales for the iPhone 5 will begin Sept. 12, the same day Apple is expected to announce the device, according to a new report.

Though the sixth-generation iPhone likely won't launch or get to customers until Sept. 21


They're not calling it "iPhone 5".
 
2012-08-14 08:43:02 AM
I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.
 
2012-08-14 08:46:59 AM
"There have also been rumors that Apple may use September to launch other new mobile products, including an iPad mini..."

Isn't the iPhone the iPad Mini?
 
2012-08-14 08:47:27 AM

bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.


Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.
 
2012-08-14 08:53:20 AM
iPhone616
 
2012-08-14 08:56:39 AM

Farking Canuck: bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.

Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.


But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.
 
2012-08-14 08:57:28 AM
These stories are a joke.

September 21 release? Unnamed sources? Lol.

The only news I've seen that made me laugh til I cry was the "new battery". These people are jumping up and down for a battery going from 1330 mAh to 1340 mAh. Woohoo, .7% increase. Take my RAZR. Going from a 1700 mAh to a 3300 mAh battery with very little space gain. THAT'S amazing
 
2012-08-14 09:03:46 AM
It will still suck compared to my GNex.
 
2012-08-14 09:14:21 AM

Nem Wan: But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.


The app store difference is a matter of philosophy. I'd prefer to take risks in the outside world than live in a sterilized cage. Sure, I might get hurt if I'm not careful, but I also have much greater opportunity.

That being said.... I wish I could lock most other computer and phone users in a sterilized cage. I don't mind taking risks and cleaning up my own messes when I goof up, but I'm not a fan of having to save everyone else when they do something stupid and don't know how to react.
 
2012-08-14 09:20:19 AM

jayphat: These stories are a joke.

September 21 release? Unnamed sources? Lol.

The only news I've seen that made me laugh til I cry was the "new battery". These people are jumping up and down for a battery going from 1330 mAh to 1340 mAh. Woohoo, .7% increase. Take my RAZR. Going from a 1700 mAh to a 3300 mAh battery with very little space gain. THAT'S amazing


But she has a new hat.
 
2012-08-14 09:26:44 AM

Nem Wan: Farking Canuck: bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.

Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.

But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.


It is also a "choice free" garden. And now that the charging cable will have a chip in it with copywrited software ... it is going to be a "3rd party hardware-free garden" ... reducing choice and increasing costs further.

/a tiny bit of common sense keeps my phone malware free ... no need for others to protect me
 
2012-08-14 09:27:03 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: but I also have much greater opportunity.

Not if you are a developer and like to actually make money.
 
2012-08-14 09:29:43 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Nem Wan: But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.

The app store difference is a matter of philosophy. I'd prefer to take risks in the outside world than live in a sterilized cage. Sure, I might get hurt if I'm not careful, but I also have much greater opportunity.

That being said.... I wish I could lock most other computer and phone users in a sterilized cage. I don't mind taking risks and cleaning up my own messes when I goof up, but I'm not a fan of having to save everyone else when they do something stupid and don't know how to react.


Well said.

How about this:

When you power on a newly-purchased computer, the user will be given a test. The test score determines how much access you will have. There can be a few standard levels and users can have limited internet access to basic courses until they can prove that they can be trusted online.

Think of it as a sort of learner's permit path to a full driver's license.
 
2012-08-14 09:29:47 AM
10 out of 10 techie friends in San Francisco, including those who have had iphones since the beginning, tell me "Buy Galaxy, Android is way better."

The thing about Apple is that you must only do things the Apple way. It was torture and a half to get music from my USB stick to the damned 3gs iphone that I bought for use in Vietnam.
 
2012-08-14 09:31:13 AM

Farking Canuck: Nem Wan: Farking Canuck: bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.

Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.

But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.

It is also a "choice free" garden. And now that the charging cable will have a chip in it with copywrited software ... it is going to be a "3rd party hardware-free garden" ... reducing choice and increasing costs further.

/a tiny bit of common sense keeps my phone malware free ... no need for others to protect me


Seriously? Nokia did that to keep people buying their $50 data cable (before USB was standard) to back up their phones.
 
2012-08-14 09:33:26 AM
I need to replace my iPhone 3G that has served me well for almost 3 years and will finally get the iPhone 5 (or whatever it's called). But what grinds my gears is that when the iPhone 5 gets released I'll have a legion of Apple fanboys in front of me in line. They'll all be super anxious and acting like they're going to die because they just have to replace their 10 month old iPhone 4s' as soon as humanly possible.
 
2012-08-14 09:37:11 AM

mjohnson71: I need to replace my iPhone 3G that has served me well for almost 3 years and will finally get the iPhone 5 (or whatever it's called). But what grinds my gears is that when the iPhone 5 gets released I'll have a legion of Apple fanboys in front of me in line. They'll all be super anxious and acting like they're going to die because they just have to replace their 10 month old iPhone 4s' as soon as humanly possible.


So wait a couple months until the fanfare dies down.

Or get a Samsung.
 
2012-08-14 09:39:40 AM

Farking Canuck: bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.

Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.


Can you load apps from Apples app store on your Android device? No? Welcome to a walled garden.
Of course why would you want to load an iOS app on your Android device, since just about any app is available on both platforms.
The 'walled garden' expression is pretty much meaningless.
You can make the argument that people who buy into the Apple ecosystem are locked into using Apple devices, if they want to continue using the apps they purchased from the Apple app store. Since I have never actually found an app worth buying, switching between platforms is not an issue for me. And I'll bet this is the case for many people.

Devices I currently own:
Samsung Galaxy S2
iPad 3
Nexus 7
 
2012-08-14 09:45:31 AM
How much smug does a new iPhone come with? Do you need a charger for that too?
 
2012-08-14 09:45:46 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Farking Canuck: bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.

Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.

Can you load apps from Apples app store on your Android device? No? Welcome to a walled garden.
Of course why would you want to load an iOS app on your Android device, since just about any app is available on both platforms.
The 'walled garden' expression is pretty much meaningless.
You can make the argument that people who buy into the Apple ecosystem are locked into using Apple devices, if they want to continue using the apps they purchased from the Apple app store. Since I have never actually found an app worth buying, switching between platforms is not an issue for me. And I'll bet this is the case for many people.

Devices I currently own:
Samsung Galaxy S2
iPad 3
Nexus 7


Or that Apple can remotely brick your phone? That's no bueno.
 
2012-08-14 09:48:01 AM

pxlboy: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Farking Canuck: bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.

Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.

Can you load apps from Apples app store on your Android device? No? Welcome to a walled garden.
Of course why would you want to load an iOS app on your Android device, since just about any app is available on both platforms.
The 'walled garden' expression is pretty much meaningless.
You can make the argument that people who buy into the Apple ecosystem are locked into using Apple devices, if they want to continue using the apps they purchased from the Apple app store. Since I have never actually found an app worth buying, switching between platforms is not an issue for me. And I'll bet this is the case for many people.

Devices I currently own:
Samsung Galaxy S2
iPad 3
Nexus 7

Or that Apple can remotely brick your phone? That's no bueno.


You can turn that 'feature' off. Android devices have a remote wipe option also.
 
2012-08-14 09:49:02 AM
Had a Galaxy, thought it was crap, went to iPhone 4, very happy. You should too.
 
2012-08-14 09:49:52 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Can you load apps from Apples app store on your Android device? No? Welcome to a walled garden.
Of course why would you want to load an iOS app on your Android device, since just about any app is available on both platforms.


WTF?? I think you forgot your meds this morning. Who said anything about Android ... in fact I explicitly avoided mentioning competitors.

Apple's 'walled garden' philosophy is a fact ... they are proud of having a safe little area for their children users to play in. Sure, some jail-break their way out of this 'jail' but most don't.

I merely expressed my opinion that living in this 'safe', restricted world holds no interest to me.
 
2012-08-14 09:50:19 AM
I liked Android, in theory. In practice ...

Maybe I have a crap phone (HTC Inspire). I'm glad it has a removable battery, as I've had to physically remove it a few dozen times now when the phone locks up and I can't do anything else. It's slow and sluggish, the Android Market just doesn't hold a candle to Apple in some respects (chiefly: GameCenter. To be able to easily play with friends, compare achievements, etc.. Android has nothing like it. And NO, mobage does not count.). The quality of apps is generally better I've found (even between the same app - compare Tiny Tower on iOS and Android, it's hands down better on iOS), probably due to Apple needing to approve it.

And as someone who owns a Macbook Pro and an iMac, the incentive to stick in the walled garden is a factor. It's nice when things just work sometimes.

Again, maybe the HTC Inspire has soured me on it all. It sucks that the phones evolve so fast, and that HTC has decided "no ICS for you". At least with Apple, there's a decent history of being allowed to run the next version of iOS on your device. I'm extremely hesitant about buying another phone, having it be obsolete in 6-9 months, and being told I'm not getting the next Android OS and if I want it, shell out for a new phone.

Anyway, I'm ready to throw this phone through a window. The only disappointing thing about what seems to be the new consensus iPhone is the screen size - I really wanted something wider. The screen size is a huge factor in why I switched to Android, and it may end up being enough in the end to keep me on it. We'll see. My co-worker has the Galaxy S3, and it does look pretty nice.

/open source web programmer.
//needs to stop playing the waste of time that is tiny tower
 
2012-08-14 09:52:22 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Nem Wan: But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.

The app store difference is a matter of philosophy. I'd prefer to take risks in the outside world than live in a sterilized cage. Sure, I might get hurt if I'm not careful, but I also have much greater opportunity.

That being said.... I wish I could lock most other computer and phone users in a sterilized cage. I don't mind taking risks and cleaning up my own messes when I goof up, but I'm not a fan of having to save everyone else when they do something stupid and don't know how to react.


In my younger days, I was never would have gone in for this "walled garden" nonsense....that was for non technical wieners who were too dumb not to screw up their device and needed to be spoon fed their applications.

Now I'm older...and I don't have the time/inclination to worry about this kind of thing. Playing around with gadgets plays a far smaller role in my life than it used to....and as such my priorities and preferences have changed. What I really like now, is a well designed, well screwed together device that will last me a good while and that I don't have to put much thought into. My 3GS was my first even Apple product (I thought the day would never come)...but a few years later, it still works fine and simply does what I need it to do. I don't have the need to chase down all of the latest functionality anymore, or to be the first one to make some feature work. Let someone else grunt it out....I'll download for free or a buck in a month when most of the bugs are worked out. I have other interests these days...
 
2012-08-14 09:54:02 AM
I'm better than you because of the cell phone I own.
 
2012-08-14 09:55:47 AM

H31N0US: mjohnson71: I need to replace my iPhone 3G that has served me well for almost 3 years and will finally get the iPhone 5 (or whatever it's called). But what grinds my gears is that when the iPhone 5 gets released I'll have a legion of Apple fanboys in front of me in line. They'll all be super anxious and acting like they're going to die because they just have to replace their 10 month old iPhone 4s' as soon as humanly possible.

So wait a couple months until the fanfare dies down.

Or get a Samsung.


Yeah, then no one will be in front of you in line.
 
2012-08-14 09:58:04 AM

Sasquach: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Nem Wan: But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.

The app store difference is a matter of philosophy. I'd prefer to take risks in the outside world than live in a sterilized cage. Sure, I might get hurt if I'm not careful, but I also have much greater opportunity.

That being said.... I wish I could lock most other computer and phone users in a sterilized cage. I don't mind taking risks and cleaning up my own messes when I goof up, but I'm not a fan of having to save everyone else when they do something stupid and don't know how to react.

In my younger days, I was never would have gone in for this "walled garden" nonsense....that was for non technical wieners who were too dumb not to screw up their device and needed to be spoon fed their applications.



Now I'm older...and I don't have the time/inclination to worry about this kind of thing. Playing around with gadgets plays a far smaller role in my life than it used to....and as such my priorities and preferences have changed. What I really like now, is a well designed, well screwed together device that will last me a good while and that I don't have to put much thought into. My 3GS was my first even Apple product (I thought the day would never come)...but a few years later, it still works fine and simply does what I need it to do. I don't have the need to chase down all of the latest functionality anymore, or to be the first one to make some feature work. Let someone else grunt it out....I'll download for free or a buck in a month when most of the bugs are worked out. I have other interests these days...


I was going to say the same thing. In my days before marriage/kids, I'd be a lot more inclined to go the open source route, or jailbreak, tinker, what have you. Now, my life/priorities have changed, and I simply don't have the time to deal with it. I'll take the walled garden, so that when I take a photo with my phone, it shows up on my other devices and I don't have to futz with it, and I can easily play a quick 5 minute game with a friend online, etc.
 
2012-08-14 09:58:10 AM

BilldaCat10: I liked Android, in theory. In practice ...

Maybe I have a crap phone (HTC Inspire). I'm glad it has a removable battery, as I've had to physically remove it a few dozen times now when the phone locks up and I can't do anything else. It's slow and sluggish, the Android Market just doesn't hold a candle to Apple in some respects (chiefly: GameCenter. To be able to easily play with friends, compare achievements, etc.. Android has nothing like it. And NO, mobage does not count.). The quality of apps is generally better I've found (even between the same app - compare Tiny Tower on iOS and Android, it's hands down better on iOS), probably due to Apple needing to approve it.

And as someone who owns a Macbook Pro and an iMac, the incentive to stick in the walled garden is a factor. It's nice when things just work sometimes.

Again, maybe the HTC Inspire has soured me on it all. It sucks that the phones evolve so fast, and that HTC has decided "no ICS for you". At least with Apple, there's a decent history of being allowed to run the next version of iOS on your device. I'm extremely hesitant about buying another phone, having it be obsolete in 6-9 months, and being told I'm not getting the next Android OS and if I want it, shell out for a new phone.

Anyway, I'm ready to throw this phone through a window. The only disappointing thing about what seems to be the new consensus iPhone is the screen size - I really wanted something wider. The screen size is a huge factor in why I switched to Android, and it may end up being enough in the end to keep me on it. We'll see. My co-worker has the Galaxy S3, and it does look pretty nice.

/open source web programmer.
//needs to stop playing the waste of time that is tiny tower


The Galaxy series are excellent pieces of hardware. I rooted and reflashed my S2 with Cyanogemod 7, but am now having stability issues with it. It won't take the CM7.2 update, either.

There is an ICS update available, but I don't know if I would have to unroot and all that crap. If screencapping would be left as a standard feature, I wouldn't have rooted in the first place.

Yes, and to have more access to the hardware just because I could. Looking back, I probably won't root and reflash again unless I have a compelling reason to.
 
2012-08-14 10:01:51 AM

Farking Canuck: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Can you load apps from Apples app store on your Android device? No? Welcome to a walled garden.
Of course why would you want to load an iOS app on your Android device, since just about any app is available on both platforms.

WTF?? I think you forgot your meds this morning. Who said anything about Android ... in fact I explicitly avoided mentioning competitors.

Apple's 'walled garden' philosophy is a fact ... they are proud of having a safe little area for their children users to play in. Sure, some jail-break their way out of this 'jail' but most don't.

I merely expressed my opinion that living in this 'safe', restricted world holds no interest to me.


Since this is a thread about iPhones, I assumed you were talking about Android as being the other option, since I have never encountered someone that actually uses a Windows phone.
 
2012-08-14 10:05:12 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Farking Canuck: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Can you load apps from Apples app store on your Android device? No? Welcome to a walled garden.
Of course why would you want to load an iOS app on your Android device, since just about any app is available on both platforms.

WTF?? I think you forgot your meds this morning. Who said anything about Android ... in fact I explicitly avoided mentioning competitors.

Apple's 'walled garden' philosophy is a fact ... they are proud of having a safe little area for their children users to play in. Sure, some jail-break their way out of this 'jail' but most don't.

I merely expressed my opinion that living in this 'safe', restricted world holds no interest to me.

Since this is a thread about iPhones, I assumed you were talking about Android as being the other option, since I have never encountered someone that actually uses a Windows phone.


WinMo7 is weird. The fact that you have to hack your registry or connect it to a Linux box just to browse the device is incredibly stupid. They paired it with this crappy Zune software to manage data and contacts -- badly, I might add.
 
2012-08-14 10:13:36 AM

Farking Canuck: Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.


So not owning a phone or a computer at all? What did you type this message on?

/you've always "lived" in a walled garden - get over it
 
2012-08-14 10:17:12 AM

pxlboy: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Farking Canuck: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Can you load apps from Apples app store on your Android device? No? Welcome to a walled garden.
Of course why would you want to load an iOS app on your Android device, since just about any app is available on both platforms.

WTF?? I think you forgot your meds this morning. Who said anything about Android ... in fact I explicitly avoided mentioning competitors.

Apple's 'walled garden' philosophy is a fact ... they are proud of having a safe little area for their children users to play in. Sure, some jail-break their way out of this 'jail' but most don't.

I merely expressed my opinion that living in this 'safe', restricted world holds no interest to me.

Since this is a thread about iPhones, I assumed you were talking about Android as being the other option, since I have never encountered someone that actually uses a Windows phone.

WinMo7 is weird. The fact that you have to hack your registry or connect it to a Linux box just to browse the device is incredibly stupid. They paired it with this crappy Zune software to manage data and contacts -- badly, I might add.


The Win7.5 phone I played around with was just strange. I just did not like the tiles. They have all the charm of Windows Metro.
 
2012-08-14 10:18:31 AM

pxlboy: BilldaCat10: I liked Android, in theory. In practice ...

Maybe I have a crap phone (HTC Inspire). I'm glad it has a removable battery, as I've had to physically remove it a few dozen times now when the phone locks up and I can't do anything else. It's slow and sluggish, the Android Market just doesn't hold a candle to Apple in some respects (chiefly: GameCenter. To be able to easily play with friends, compare achievements, etc.. Android has nothing like it. And NO, mobage does not count.). The quality of apps is generally better I've found (even between the same app - compare Tiny Tower on iOS and Android, it's hands down better on iOS), probably due to Apple needing to approve it.

And as someone who owns a Macbook Pro and an iMac, the incentive to stick in the walled garden is a factor. It's nice when things just work sometimes.

Again, maybe the HTC Inspire has soured me on it all. It sucks that the phones evolve so fast, and that HTC has decided "no ICS for you". At least with Apple, there's a decent history of being allowed to run the next version of iOS on your device. I'm extremely hesitant about buying another phone, having it be obsolete in 6-9 months, and being told I'm not getting the next Android OS and if I want it, shell out for a new phone.

Anyway, I'm ready to throw this phone through a window. The only disappointing thing about what seems to be the new consensus iPhone is the screen size - I really wanted something wider. The screen size is a huge factor in why I switched to Android, and it may end up being enough in the end to keep me on it. We'll see. My co-worker has the Galaxy S3, and it does look pretty nice.

/open source web programmer.
//needs to stop playing the waste of time that is tiny tower

The Galaxy series are excellent pieces of hardware. I rooted and reflashed my S2 with Cyanogemod 7, but am now having stability issues with it. It won't take the CM7.2 update, either.

There is an ICS update available, but I don't kn ...


I am on my 3rd Android phone. The 1st one I had was very meh. Rooted it and made it better. Then I got a Nexus S 4G. Solid phone but rooted it and made it better. Now I have a HTC EVO 4G. I have absolutely no desire to mess with it. Its all around solid and the battery lasts an absurdly long time (24+ hours with light to medium use).
 
2012-08-14 10:19:04 AM

Farking Canuck: Apple's 'walled garden' philosophy is a fact ... they are proud of having a safe little area for their children users to play in. Sure, some jail-break their way out of this 'jail' but most don't.

I merely expressed my opinion that living in this 'safe', restricted world holds no interest to me.


If one has to "jailbreak" anything to make it useful to them - than something is very seriously wrong. I don't jailbreak my refrigerator or my car. I buy a tool to get a job done because I have a life to live, work to do, and beer to drink. I'm continuously amused by people who by Android based devices with 3 seconds of battery life and having to break into the phone to remove the crap off them. Life it too short dude to deal with such shiat.

/pats little Farking Canuck on the head
 
2012-08-14 10:20:18 AM

BilldaCat10: I liked Android, in theory. In practice ...

Maybe I have a crap phone (HTC Inspire). I'm glad it has a removable battery, as I've had to physically remove it a few dozen times now when the phone locks up and I can't do anything else. It's slow and sluggish, the Android Market just doesn't hold a candle to Apple in some respects (chiefly: GameCenter. To be able to easily play with friends, compare achievements, etc.. Android has nothing like it. And NO, mobage does not count.). The quality of apps is generally better I've found (even between the same app - compare Tiny Tower on iOS and Android, it's hands down better on iOS), probably due to Apple needing to approve it.

And as someone who owns a Macbook Pro and an iMac, the incentive to stick in the walled garden is a factor. It's nice when things just work sometimes.

Again, maybe the HTC Inspire has soured me on it all. It sucks that the phones evolve so fast, and that HTC has decided "no ICS for you". At least with Apple, there's a decent history of being allowed to run the next version of iOS on your device. I'm extremely hesitant about buying another phone, having it be obsolete in 6-9 months, and being told I'm not getting the next Android OS and if I want it, shell out for a new phone.

Anyway, I'm ready to throw this phone through a window. The only disappointing thing about what seems to be the new consensus iPhone is the screen size - I really wanted something wider. The screen size is a huge factor in why I switched to Android, and it may end up being enough in the end to keep me on it. We'll see. My co-worker has the Galaxy S3, and it does look pretty nice.

/open source web programmer.
//needs to stop playing the waste of time that is tiny tower


The root of your problem is mostly AT&T and a little HTC. Android is not the issue. Everybody with the Inspire is used to having to yank the battery. But wait, it gets better. DO NOT INSTALL THE 2.3.5 UPDATE! The 2.3.4 version they released a year ago may be buggy but at least it was functional. Somehow they managed to completely break a bunch of the Inspires with an extremely small incremental update. As in the phones now boot loop and lock up hard. You could have nearly any Android phone other than the Inspire and not have the problems you are having.

Basically unless you are playing with some funky software most phones won't lock up. AT&T just loves to shove all kinds of extra garbage onto the phones and ruin things. Now that they managed to break my phone I'm going to have to see what AT&T replaces it with. If I get a choice I'm going with an Atrix 2. A cell phone I can plug into a HDMI cable and USB hub and use as a full desktop PC? Yes please! Look up Motorollas webtop stuff if you haven't hear about it. Pure awesomeness. And the most interesting part to consider is Google now owns it so it might be going mainline into future Android versions.
 
2012-08-14 10:21:46 AM
I have an iPhone 4S. A coworker has a Samsung Galaxy II. Both phones are pretty awesome.

/I think the Samsung has the best Korean language support (he's Korean, so.....yeah. Kind of important.)
//Both platforms have Final Fantasy I, II, and III available, as well.
///IT'S A TIE!
 
2012-08-14 10:23:45 AM

Theaetetus: Yeah, then no one will be in front of you in line.


The less I am associated with the kind of dumbass who would stand in line to buy an overpriced / under-capable piece of Guangzhou made gadgetry, the better.

To be fair though the last couple Verizon stores I visited were out of S3s at the time but the one on 42nd street has since got some in.
 
2012-08-14 10:24:59 AM

gingerjet: Farking Canuck: Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.

So not owning a phone or a computer at all? What did you type this message on?

/you've always "lived" in a walled garden - get over it


Sure ... like my physically living on Earth is the same as living in a prison on Earth. They're both 'walled gardens' so prisoners should just get over it.

Fun game ... widening the definitions of terms such that they become meaningless.

Or you can admit that Apple is proud of their censorship system. All the steps that they take to offer a simple, stable solution (which many people want). This 'walled garden' Apple has gone to great effort to create and advertise which you seem to want to deny and dismiss.

It is what they have always done and it works for the audience that appreciate it.

It does not work for me. I like to have choice in phones (screen size, physical keyboard, standard USB connectors, etc.) and complete freedom in software (I hate censorship).

Your knee-jerk reaction smells a bit like a fanboi ... but at least you have a choice to be that.
 
2012-08-14 10:25:00 AM
Just cracked the screen on my Nokia Lumina.
Now what?
 
2012-08-14 10:30:06 AM
Regardless of iOS/Android for my next phone, I'm pretty sure I'll just shell out the cost of the device and not deal with another 2 year contract.
 
2012-08-14 10:31:12 AM

Farking Canuck: gingerjet: Farking Canuck: Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.

So not owning a phone or a computer at all? What did you type this message on?

/you've always "lived" in a walled garden - get over it

Sure ... like my physically living on Earth is the same as living in a prison on Earth. They're both 'walled gardens' so prisoners should just get over it.

Fun game ... widening the definitions of terms such that they become meaningless.

Or you can admit that Apple is proud of their censorship system. All the steps that they take to offer a simple, stable solution (which many people want). This 'walled garden' Apple has gone to great effort to create and advertise which you seem to want to deny and dismiss.

It is what they have always done and it works for the audience that appreciate it.

It does not work for me. I like to have choice in phones (screen size, physical keyboard, standard USB connectors, etc.) and complete freedom in software (I hate censorship).

Your knee-jerk reaction smells a bit like a fanboi ... but at least you have a choice to be that.


i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-08-14 10:33:27 AM
The iPhone5 has already been lost at least once.

Too bad the knucklehead who found it turned it on at home rather than at a Starbucks or something.
 
2012-08-14 10:43:44 AM

Theaetetus: H31N0US: mjohnson71: I need to replace my iPhone 3G that has served me well for almost 3 years and will finally get the iPhone 5 (or whatever it's called). But what grinds my gears is that when the iPhone 5 gets released I'll have a legion of Apple fanboys in front of me in line. They'll all be super anxious and acting like they're going to die because they just have to replace their 10 month old iPhone 4s' as soon as humanly possible.

So wait a couple months until the fanfare dies down.

Or get a Samsung.

Yeah, then no one will be in front of you in line.


Exactly. No one wants those. Why they have hardly sold any at all.
 
2012-08-14 10:46:00 AM
I used to care about the difference between Macs and PCs. Then I started getting laid. Now I'm only slightly annoyed by the difference. Not enough to argue about it but enough to post and explain this. Also, I got chlamydia.
 
2012-08-14 10:46:49 AM

BilldaCat10: Sasquach: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Nem Wan: But it's a big, largely malware-free garden.

I was going to say the same thing. In my days before marriage/kids, I'd be a lot more inclined to go the open source route, or jailbreak, tinker, what have you. Now, my life/priorities have changed, and I simply don't have the time to deal with it. I'll take the walled garden, so that when I take a photo with my phone, it shows up on my other devices and I don't have to fut ...


Isn't it funny what getting older can do to you? How your time becomes way more valuable....and an hour of loading this and updating that just seems like such a waste.
 
2012-08-14 10:47:57 AM

Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: I used to care about the difference between Macs and PCs. Then I started getting laid. Now I'm only slightly annoyed by the difference. Not enough to argue about it but enough to post and explain this. Also, I got chlamydia.


If you had been more open to trojans, you wouldn't have gotten a virus.
 
2012-08-14 10:56:50 AM

Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: I used to care about the difference between Macs and PCs. Then I started getting laid. Now I'm only slightly annoyed by the difference. Not enough to argue about it but enough to post and explain this. Also, I got chlamydia.



Chlamydia 4.5 or 5.1?
 
2012-08-14 10:57:54 AM

Farking Canuck: bighairyguy: I'm going to wait for next year's version, the iPhone WhateverS.

Personally, I'm gonna continue to choose not to live in a 'walled garden'.


Farking Canuck 1962: I'm not gonna buy this telephone, who are they to tell me that I can only use it to speak with others who are on the PSTN?
Farking Canuck 1972: I'm not gonna buy this TV, why would I want a device that can only receive VHF and UHF signals?
Farking Canuck 1982: I'm not gonna by an Atari, who are they to tell me I can't use my Coleco cartridges on it?
Farking Canuck 1992: I'm not gonna buy this car; it's well-built and gets great mileage, but the dashboard won't let me replace the factory-installed stereo! Fark that corporate lock-in!
Farking Canuck 2002: I'm not gonna buy this DVD player, who are they to restrict me to NTSC-formatted discs and not let me use the pirated ones I bought in Bangkok?
Farking Canuck 2012: I'm not gonna buy this phone, who are they to limit me to 500,000 apps? Farking freedom-restricting Nazis, that's what they are!
 
2012-08-14 11:10:09 AM
Hmmm, do I go with a pre-order or wait until my birthday on the 26th to try to get one...

Actually, I don't like the idea of buying from the first batch of anything, Apple or otherwise. That's where the highest defect rates are.
 
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