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2012-08-14 03:57:29 AM
2. He is a budget expert.

If by "budget expert" you mean "bad at math".
 
2012-08-14 05:05:01 AM

fusillade762: 2. He is a budget expert.

If by "budget expert" you mean "bad at math".


If by "budget expert" you mean "fark you, I got mine without ever having a real job."
 
2012-08-14 07:36:48 AM
He is a man of action.

Did I just read that right?

Ryan is a corporate meat puppet of action perhaps but he's not his own man.

He's a Koch clone with indefensible ideas.
 
2012-08-14 07:38:39 AM
He's white?
 
2012-08-14 07:38:51 AM

quatchi: He is a man of action.

Did I just read that right?

Ryan is a corporate meat puppet of action perhaps but he's not his own man.

He's a Koch clone with indefensible ideas.


Hasn't this man of action been working in Congress one way or another since college? And only had two of his bills passed into law?
 
2012-08-14 07:47:24 AM

Satanic_Hamster: quatchi: He is a man of action.

Did I just read that right?

Ryan is a corporate meat puppet of action perhaps but he's not his own man.

He's a Koch clone with indefensible ideas.

Hasn't this man of action been working in Congress one way or another since college? And only had two of his bills passed into law?


That's what I never understand about the current crop of Republicans.

My father, who voted Obama in 08, has told me on and off for the better part of the last 10 years that we need to stop having career politicians who stay in office forever. Which is why he's voting for Brown in the MA senate race (that's not the reason, he claims Warren is a carpetbagger, but that's a discussion/fight for another time) who has been in the state senate for the better part of the last decade or more before going to the big time senate. But he voted Obama in 08 and voting Romney this year, so it's all good.

*hangs head in shame* at least my mother is a bit more reasonable in her voting. She was going to vote Huntsman in the primary if he had lasted to super Tuesday, and she's an unofficial Democrat

\Personally, I think we need another RFK to run
\\without getting shot
 
2012-08-14 07:52:56 AM

somedude210: , I think we need another RFK to run


No. No we don't. No more Kennedys, no more Bushes, and no other Clintons. No more family dynasties.
 
2012-08-14 07:55:53 AM

hiker9999: somedude210: , I think we need another RFK to run

No. No we don't. No more Kennedys, no more Bushes, and no other Clintons. No more family dynasties.


I didn't mean an actual Kennedy. I meant in the same vein as RFK. Someone who can inspire and bridge the divide between us. He did more to try and bring us together in the 82 days he ran then any politician has done in the 10 years that some have been campaigning
 
2012-08-14 07:56:04 AM
CSB: I saw two of my right-wingnuttiest co-workers talking about Ryan yesterday an it went like this:

Nut 1 So, Ryan?
Nut 2 Yeah, I'm ok with it.

Their enthusiasm was quite underwhelming.
 
2012-08-14 07:56:34 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Hasn't this man of action been working in Congress one way or another since college?


Yuppo, he's like DC's version of the bubble boy.

And only had two of his bills passed into law?

Uh-huh. the globe shattering and highly controversial "let's rename a post office in Janesville" one and the politically brave "I don't want to pay more for my Turkey huntin' arrows" bill.

For a Republican that's actually pretty good in only 13 years.

Mostly they are about overturning old laws or just stalling to prevent decent new ones from being enacted these days.
 
2012-08-14 07:58:26 AM
2. He is a budget expert.

On what do they base this assertion?

6. Social conservatives just love him.

Many consider this a negative.

8. His lack of experience in international issues matches Barack Obama's four years ago - and he has a deeper record of domestic policy accomplishments.

How did his plan to privatize Social Security work out?
 
2012-08-14 08:07:49 AM

somedude210: I didn't mean an actual Kennedy. I meant in the same vein as RFK. Someone who can inspire and bridge the divide between us. He did more to try and bring us together in the 82 days he ran then any politician has done in the 10 years that some have been campaigning


The problem is that a Kennedy would dragged down into the mud and vilified by the Republican noise machine for his entire term, ensuring that whatever he did or however great a speaker he may be, half the country would hate him anyway.

They did it with Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and they're doing it with Obama and will continue to repeat the same tactics on future presidents with their algorithm refined even further. The only thing that can even temporarily cease the internecine fighting is being attacked by an outside enemy.
 
2012-08-14 08:22:36 AM
Ryan has exactly four strengths - he's not ugly, he's an intellectual by Republican standards, he's white from a mainstream religion, and he's not from a completely different planet like Mittens.

Getting regular photo ops of the neighborhood kid from Nowhere, WI buddying up with the aloof silver spoon Mormon from Boston helps Mitt seem less threatening.
 
2012-08-14 08:23:05 AM

Gwyrddu: The problem is that a Kennedy would dragged down into the mud and vilified by the Republican noise machine for his entire term, ensuring that whatever he did or however great a speaker he may be, half the country would hate him anyway.


Republicans in '68 were not the republicans we have grown to lovehate

What we need is someone who can bridge the gap, it'll have to be a Republican that does it though. They need national prominence and they need to go against the Republican Noise Machine and appeal to moderates and liberals as well as conservatives.

/"They say a good man can't get elected, I don't believe that. Do you?"
 
2012-08-14 08:35:37 AM

quatchi: He is a man of action.

Did I just read that right?

Ryan is a corporate meat puppet of action perhaps but he's not his own man.

He's a Koch clone with indefensible ideas.


A man of action? So, Paul Ryan is Dr. Tran?
 
2012-08-14 08:40:08 AM

Tor_Eckman: CSB: I saw two of my right-wingnuttiest co-workers talking about Ryan yesterday an it went like this:

Nut 1 So, Ryan?
Nut 2 Yeah, I'm ok with it.

Their enthusiasm was quite underwhelming.


That seems to be the general thoughts from my co-workers as well. Near complete indifference and they're all die hard Republicans. Might explain why knaves like the author are trying to hard to spin worship of him.
 
2012-08-14 09:01:48 AM

somedude210: Republicans in '68 were not the republicans we have grown to lovehate

What we need is someone who can bridge the gap, it'll have to be a Republican that does it though. They need national prominence and they need to go against the Republican Noise Machine and appeal to moderates and liberals as well as conservatives.


Will never happen. We'd need the Republicans of '68 to come back. You know, those people who actually were smart and ran on economic issues rather than the mouth-breathing racist, Christian dominionists we have now.

The only hope for us is that the baby-boomers die, stripping the party of it's remaining power, before they completely fark the country over.
 
2012-08-14 09:06:29 AM

cfreak: somedude210: Republicans in '68 were not the republicans we have grown to lovehate

What we need is someone who can bridge the gap, it'll have to be a Republican that does it though. They need national prominence and they need to go against the Republican Noise Machine and appeal to moderates and liberals as well as conservatives.

Will never happen. We'd need the Republicans of '68 to come back. You know, those people who actually were smart and ran on economic issues rather than the mouth-breathing racist, Christian dominionists we have now.

The only hope for us is that the baby-boomers die, stripping the party of it's remaining power, before they completely fark the country over.


Nah, the Tea Partiers will take over the party, kick the moderates completely out then it'll implode by not having any power, the moderates will come back in force, take back the party and we'll have the GOP again. But Baby Boomers are not exclusively Tea Partiers, there are many young idiots too
 
2012-08-14 09:31:34 AM

quatchi: He is a man of action.

Did I just read that right?


Excuse me, if this is not a man of action, I don't know what is. Take that, American Flag.

www.addictinginfo.org
 
2012-08-14 09:55:22 AM
Well, if I was extremely rich, I know I'd donate quite a few bucks to Mitt if I thought that he could lower my tax rate to ~1% or less. Paul Ryan gives that hope.

That's why he was picked. Romney is trying to buy the election.
 
2012-08-14 10:09:11 AM

somedude210: Nah, the Tea Partiers will take over the party, kick the moderates completely out then it'll implode by not having any power, the moderates will come back in force, take back the party and we'll have the GOP again. But Baby Boomers are not exclusively Tea Partiers, there are many young idiots too


Was just talking about this with a friend. That's my hope - since a more moderate Republican party means a potentially actual left-wing Democratic party... but I don't see this happening for decades given the powers that be who are willing to pour money into keeping the Teapublican Party going.
 
2012-08-14 10:26:59 AM
This article hits a home run.

1. He excites the Republican Party's conservative base.

TRUE

2. He is a budget expert.

TRUE - if when the say expert they mean someone who has wet dreams about drowning the federal government in a bathtub.

3. He is a man of action.

TRUE - if when they say action they mean someone who, in 7 terms in congress has authored 2 bills that became law. A post office naming and a tax cut on archery supplies - and yes, Ryan is a bow hunter.

4. He could help the Republicans in a key swing state - Wisconsin.

TRUE. Emphasis on the word could.

5. He could help Romney attract blue-collar Catholic voters.

TRUE - if when they say attract, they mean alienate by proposing a federal fetal personhood bill when 99% of Catholics use birth control.

6. Social conservatives just love him.

TRUE - if when they think this is a reason this will help the ticket they mean it will turn off nearly EVERY independent voter.

7. His selection has caused skeptical conservatives to look at Romney in a different light.

TRUE. See 6

8. His lack of experience in international issues matches Barack Obama's four years ago - and he has a deeper record of domestic policy accomplishments.

TRUE - if when they think that Obama's lack of experience in international issues was a positive in 2008, they think it is a positive for Ryan now. If when they say deeper record, they mean Ryan authored the same amount of successful bills in 3.5 times the amount of years in congress.

9. He has impeccable experience as a staffer and an elected official.

TRUE - if you ignore the fact that Romney suggested changing the constitution so that someone with that resume would be ineligible for the office.

10. The mainstream media elite likes him (sort of).

TRUE - sort of, not really, well you get the point.
 
2012-08-14 01:37:23 PM
8. His lack of experience in international issues matches Barack Obama's four years ago - and he has a deeper record of domestic policy accomplishments.

I love this one. President Obama was weak on foreign policy, so he chose Joe Biden. Mitt Romney is weak on foreign policy, so we should be excited that he chose some who "matches Barack Obama's (experience from) four years ago?"
 
2012-08-14 01:45:26 PM
2. He is a budget expert.

HA HA HA HA!
 
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