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(FilmDrunk)   If you had any hope for the Robocop remake, forget about it. Robocop is now a transformer that fights Al Queda, or something   (filmdrunk.uproxx.com) divider line 58
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2012-08-13 01:37:58 PM
t.fireden.net
 
2012-08-13 01:39:51 PM
Let's be honest here.

The original ones weren't that good. They were fun, but they weren't very good.
 
2012-08-13 01:47:20 PM

Aarontology: Let's be honest here.

The original ones weren't that good. They were fun, but they weren't very good.


Actually, the original was far better than the premise suggested it could be. Beyond law enforcement, it had some interesting points to make about corruption, corporatism, urban planning, and hazardous materials handling (ok, maybe not that last one). It holds up surprisingly well. For a summer action movie, it was smarter than most.

The sequels, maybe not so much.
 
2012-08-13 01:54:03 PM
www.cinema-suicide.com
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-08-13 01:57:29 PM
Like Terminator, the original Robocop was a pleasant surprise that was more than a mindless shoot-em-up.
 
2012-08-13 01:57:45 PM
Prototype (film) is what robocop should be more like:
 
2012-08-13 02:07:41 PM
I'd buy the original for a dollar.
 
2012-08-13 02:12:19 PM

Nadie_AZ: I'd buy the original for a dollar.


Try eBay
 
2012-08-13 02:17:25 PM
i288.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-13 02:18:00 PM

unyon: Aarontology: Let's be honest here.

The original ones weren't that good. They were fun, but they weren't very good.

Actually, the original was far better than the premise suggested it could be. Beyond law enforcement, it had some interesting points to make about corruption, corporatism, urban planning, and hazardous materials handling (ok, maybe not that last one). It holds up surprisingly well. For a summer action movie, it was smarter than most.

The sequels, maybe not so much.


There were no sequels. Nope, none. One perfect movie and that's it...

/I said that's it!!
 
2012-08-13 02:41:08 PM

jchic: unyon: Aarontology: Let's be honest here.

The original ones weren't that good. They were fun, but they weren't very good.

Actually, the original was far better than the premise suggested it could be. Beyond law enforcement, it had some interesting points to make about corruption, corporatism, urban planning, and hazardous materials handling (ok, maybe not that last one). It holds up surprisingly well. For a summer action movie, it was smarter than most.

The sequels, maybe not so much.

There were no sequels. Nope, none. One perfect movie and that's it...

/I said that's it!!


Just like Highlander. No sequels made for that movie, although I wish they had made some.
 
2012-08-13 02:41:34 PM

unyon: Aarontology: Let's be honest here.

The original ones weren't that good. They were fun, but they weren't very good.

Actually, the original was far better than the premise suggested it could be. Beyond law enforcement, it had some interesting points to make about corruption, corporatism, urban planning, and hazardous materials handling (ok, maybe not that last one). It holds up surprisingly well. For a summer action movie, it was smarter than most.

The sequels, maybe not so much.



Agreed. I particularly like the balance Verhoven struck between comedy and drama, and how he managed to slip philosophical commentary about the nature of humanity and freewill into a summer special effects blockbuster.
 
2012-08-13 02:44:13 PM

cannotsuggestaname: jchic: unyon: Aarontology: Let's be honest here.

The original ones weren't that good. They were fun, but they weren't very good.

Actually, the original was far better than the premise suggested it could be. Beyond law enforcement, it had some interesting points to make about corruption, corporatism, urban planning, and hazardous materials handling (ok, maybe not that last one). It holds up surprisingly well. For a summer action movie, it was smarter than most.

The sequels, maybe not so much.

There were no sequels. Nope, none. One perfect movie and that's it...

/I said that's it!!

Just like Highlander. No sequels made for that movie, although I wish they had made some.


Remember that Matrix movie? It was begging for a sequel yet Hollywood spends its time remaking old movies like Robocop. Weird.
 
2012-08-13 02:53:41 PM
If you have any hope for any reboot... what the hell is your problem? Odds are, They did it right the first time.
 
2012-08-13 03:09:22 PM
So then Robocop blows up and everyone is without power for a few hours?

I'll wait for the Swamp Terrorists version.
 
2012-08-13 03:17:53 PM
"I am a movie critic by trade, and until recently, I got paid to tell you people which movies merely stink and which ones you shouldn't screen near an open flame. Well, I'm putting the burden of lousy movies back on you. It's very simple: if you stop going to bad movies, they'll stop making bad movies. If the movie used to be a TV show, just don't go. After Roman numeral II, give it a rest. If it's a remake of a classic, rent the classic. Tell them you want stories about people, not a hundred million dollars of stunts and explosives. People, it's up to you. If the movie stinks, just don't go. " - Jay Sherman
 
2012-08-13 03:38:49 PM
Movies are going to suck more going forward. It's just a fact we have to accept. Hollywood is "out of ideas" because the dissolution of some independent film companies forced a lot of talented writers into television. On the plus side, we get things like Breaking Bad out of it. On the downside, we get a stupid f*cking Robocop reboot out of it.
 
2012-08-13 03:42:33 PM
I know there is invariably going to be a scene where they are building Robocop and I want that scene to have the engineer pron music from "How It's Made" playing in the background.
 
2012-08-13 03:44:58 PM

unyon: Aarontology: Let's be honest here.

The original ones weren't that good. They were fun, but they weren't very good.

Actually, the original was far better than the premise suggested it could be. Beyond law enforcement, it had some interesting points to make about corruption, corporatism, urban planning, and hazardous materials handling (ok, maybe not that last one). It holds up surprisingly well. For a summer action movie, it was smarter than most.

The sequels, maybe not so much.



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That's why you always leave a note...about wearing proper PPE.
 
2012-08-13 03:48:34 PM
Doesn't sound that bad. Like the outsourcing the construction to China. I'm guessing that's some good old fashioned political satire/commentary, like in the first one.
 
2012-08-13 03:49:56 PM
As long as Anne Hathaway shows her tits it'll be a good film.
 
2012-08-13 03:50:47 PM
Actually, except for the Al Qaeda / Transformer shiat, it sounds like it has the right corporatism satire slant the original had. Focus groups, China manufacturing, etc. Now, add in a little social-networking-determines-operating-routine bit to update to the present, and you're set.
 
2012-08-13 03:54:53 PM
Plus the cast is pretty solid, I wouldn't worry too much Moriarty Drew
 
2012-08-13 04:00:21 PM
Bad guys in these 70/80s movies (Robocop, Death Wish, w/e) are always so giddy when they're brutally killing someone. These days the bad guys are unmoved, apathetic and stone faced, in the movies and in real life. Back then the bad guys are like "hehehehehhehee I'm killing this guy :D"
 
2012-08-13 04:02:41 PM

Shostie: [www.cinema-suicide.com image 400x261]


I want a shirt with that on it.
 
2012-08-13 04:05:05 PM
Well, that's actually on a shirt, but it's a crappy iron-on. I think not.
 
2012-08-13 04:06:53 PM
Just wait the worst news is yet to come

PG-13
 
2012-08-13 04:13:46 PM

netizencain: Prototype (film) is what robocop should be more like:


Yeah, a spec trailer by the guys that made Act of Valor. That's not even an actual trailer for an actual movie yet.
 
2012-08-13 04:23:37 PM

unyon: Aarontology: Let's be honest here.

The original ones weren't that good. They were fun, but they weren't very good.

Actually, the original was far better than the premise suggested it could be. Beyond law enforcement, it had some interesting points to make about corruption, corporatism, urban planning, and hazardous materials handling (ok, maybe not that last one). It holds up surprisingly well. For a summer action movie, it was smarter than most.

The sequels, maybe not so much.


Actually, the first sequel was pretty decent. Lost a lot of edge without Verhoeven, but still managed to have relevant points about corporatism, urban decay (jeez, it's amazing how foreshadowing it was regarding Detroit's current state), political corruption and the drug war.

It's the third one that went full retarded:

No Verhoeven
No Weller (and the new actor was a joke).
Nancy Allen said "just kill me in the first 15 minutes"
Lame ass genius kid.
 
2012-08-13 04:24:48 PM
Oh and the baddies, it was like written by a 13 year old:

The major gang was called The Splatterpunks!!! (just look at that name...)
And Robocop fights a robot ninja in the end. No, no, no, no, make it TWO robot ninjas.
 
2012-08-13 04:26:03 PM

rocky_howard: Oh and the baddies, it was like written by a 13 year old:

The major gang was called The Splatterpunks!!! (just look at that name...)
And Robocop fights a robot ninja in the end. No, no, no, no, make it TWO robot ninjas.


No, worse...

i29.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-13 04:34:35 PM

Captain Steroid: [i288.photobucket.com image 517x373]


THIS.
 
2012-08-13 04:35:44 PM

Garaba: Just wait the worst news is yet to come

PG-13


They only need to look at Total Recall, but when they get that gold fever, you may be right on that.
 
2012-08-13 04:46:23 PM

FirstNationalBastard: rocky_howard: Oh and the baddies, it was like written by a 13 year old:

The major gang was called The Splatterpunks!!! (just look at that name...)
And Robocop fights a robot ninja in the end. No, no, no, no, make it TWO robot ninjas.

No, worse...

[i29.photobucket.com image 500x745]


Seeing how Miller (a) writes very violent stuff and the movie was sanitized as hell and (b) he disowned the movie, I don't think you can blame it on him.

Read the Robocop comics for you to find out what he really wanted. It's pretty good.
 
2012-08-13 04:46:25 PM

FirstNationalBastard: If you have any hope for any reboot... what the hell is your problem? Odds are, They did it right the first time.


3:10 to Yuma did it better the second time...though that's more of a remake than a reboot since there is no franchise.
 
2012-08-13 04:53:12 PM

RatMaster999: FirstNationalBastard: If you have any hope for any reboot... what the hell is your problem? Odds are, They did it right the first time.

3:10 to Yuma did it better the second time...though that's more of a remake than a reboot since there is no franchise.


What about Nolan's Batman?
 
2012-08-13 04:59:56 PM

rocky_howard: FirstNationalBastard: rocky_howard: Oh and the baddies, it was like written by a 13 year old:

The major gang was called The Splatterpunks!!! (just look at that name...)
And Robocop fights a robot ninja in the end. No, no, no, no, make it TWO robot ninjas.

No, worse...

[i29.photobucket.com image 500x745]

Seeing how Miller (a) writes very violent stuff and the movie was sanitized as hell and (b) he disowned the movie, I don't think you can blame it on him.

Read the Robocop comics for you to find out what he really wanted. It's pretty good.


The Spirit was still a giant pile of dogshiat.
 
2012-08-13 05:02:59 PM
You should see the Re-Re-Re-release of Saving Private Ryan where the word Nazi has been changed to person's with political differences and all the guns have been replaced with Walki Talkies ;-)

Link
 
2012-08-13 05:09:29 PM
I hope they bring back Babylon AD for the soundtrack!

/the kid goes wild
 
2012-08-13 05:11:54 PM

Bloody William: The Spirit was still a giant pile of dogshiat.


One of the worst movies I have ever seen.
 
2012-08-13 05:50:19 PM

Aarontology: Let's be honest here.

The original ones weren't that good. They were fun, but they weren't very good.


No.

The original Robocop was a pretty brilliant satire of all things 1980s. Despite how dated it looks, it's message on everything from corporate ethos to the media holds up quite well. In fact, it's accurately predicted the future.

The drug plot line in Robocop 2 is well done, but nothing else really happens in the movie.
 
2012-08-13 05:57:05 PM

coeyagi: Actually, except for the Al Qaeda / Transformer shiat, it sounds like it has the right corporatism satire slant the original had. Focus groups, China manufacturing, etc. Now, add in a little social-networking-determines-operating-routine bit to update to the present, and you're set.


He's not going to transform. Just like in the first movie he will have different modes like "arrest mode" that his programing will dictate how he behaves. I'm sure the guy who read the script forgot about that and just assumed it meant shape changing
 
2012-08-13 05:57:21 PM

unyon: Aarontology: Let's be honest here.

The original ones weren't that good. They were fun, but they weren't very good.

Actually, the original was far better than the premise suggested it could be. Beyond law enforcement, it had some interesting points to make about corruption, corporatism, urban planning, and hazardous materials handling (ok, maybe not that last one). It holds up surprisingly well. For a summer action movie, it was smarter than most.

The sequels, maybe not so much.


Let's not leave the second one out, it had it's share of great lines, unreasonably good performances, and interesting social commentary on the drug war that remains relevent today. That dichotomy of a candy coating of intensely pandering to the lowest common denominator while the meaty center is surprisingly insightful reflection of ourselves. That content, delivered in a manner that conflates parody and prophecy, is what sets Robocop, Total Recall, and The Running Man from many other of the forgettable contemporaries of the era.

farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2012-08-13 06:19:02 PM
It's Drew McWeeny, so it's safe to assume that it's a lot of whining about nothing. The guy wrote two of the absolute worst episodes of Masters of Horror (and that's saying a lot), so I find it hard to take his criticisms of other people's works seriously.

Some of the stuff he mentions sounds like a misinterpretation, willful or otherwise (the "transformation" thing which has already been discussed, the "keep him PG-13" bit sounds more like a nod to RoboCop 2 than anything else). The rest sounds just fine and right in line with what it should be. The original was a satire of its time, and it sounds like this is going to be a satire of modern times.

Remember people, this is Drew McWeeny we're talking about. He'd die if he didn't have attention and approval.
 
2012-08-13 07:31:43 PM
Director Jose Padilha's RoboCop remake sounds like a dirty bomb.
 
2012-08-13 07:50:26 PM

rocky_howard: FirstNationalBastard: rocky_howard: Oh and the baddies, it was like written by a 13 year old:

The major gang was called The Splatterpunks!!! (just look at that name...)
And Robocop fights a robot ninja in the end. No, no, no, no, make it TWO robot ninjas.

No, worse...

[i29.photobucket.com image 500x745]

Seeing how Miller (a) writes very violent stuff and the movie was sanitized as hell and (b) he disowned the movie, I don't think you can blame it on him.

Read the Robocop comics for you to find out what he really wanted. It's pretty good.


Crossovers almost always suck, but this one is genius. Highly recommended.

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-08-13 07:59:15 PM

rocky_howard: Seeing how Miller (a) writes very violent stuff and the movie was sanitized as hell and (b) he disowned the movie, I don't think you can blame it on him.


There was a comic released that promised to be "Frank Miller's Robocop" and... it was terrible. Frank Miller is a stopped clock. He was right twice, and hasn't been since. Look, TDKRs is pretty famous, but remove it from the context of its time, and it's crap. "300" was an awful comic, and the movie wasn't much better (but far gayer). "Ronin" was so bad that I couldn't get past the first issue.

Don't get me wrong: Frank Miller did a lot to advance comics. But he's no saint. And he's certainly not aging well, in a variety of meanings. But I tend to skip books with his name on it, because odds are somebody did it better.
 
2012-08-13 08:01:28 PM

Aarontology: Let's be honest here.

The original ones weren't that good. They were fun, but they weren't very good.


Actually the first film had a lot to say, and it said it well.
 
2012-08-13 08:45:47 PM

t3knomanser: rocky_howard: Seeing how Miller (a) writes very violent stuff and the movie was sanitized as hell and (b) he disowned the movie, I don't think you can blame it on him.

There was a comic released that promised to be "Frank Miller's Robocop" and... it was terrible. Frank Miller is a stopped clock. He was right twice, and hasn't been since. Look, TDKRs is pretty famous, but remove it from the context of its time, and it's crap. "300" was an awful comic, and the movie wasn't much better (but far gayer). "Ronin" was so bad that I couldn't get past the first issue.

Don't get me wrong: Frank Miller did a lot to advance comics. But he's no saint. And he's certainly not aging well, in a variety of meanings. But I tend to skip books with his name on it, because odds are somebody did it better.


Oh come on, you owe it to yourself to read All Star Batman & Robin. Have a gun and a bottle of Crown Royal handy, because you'll need it.
 
2012-08-13 08:49:56 PM

KhamanV: t3knomanser: rocky_howard: Seeing how Miller (a) writes very violent stuff and the movie was sanitized as hell and (b) he disowned the movie, I don't think you can blame it on him.

There was a comic released that promised to be "Frank Miller's Robocop" and... it was terrible. Frank Miller is a stopped clock. He was right twice, and hasn't been since. Look, TDKRs is pretty famous, but remove it from the context of its time, and it's crap. "300" was an awful comic, and the movie wasn't much better (but far gayer). "Ronin" was so bad that I couldn't get past the first issue.

Don't get me wrong: Frank Miller did a lot to advance comics. But he's no saint. And he's certainly not aging well, in a variety of meanings. But I tend to skip books with his name on it, because odds are somebody did it better.

Oh come on, you owe it to yourself to read All Star Batman & Robin. Have a gun and a bottle of Crown Royal handy, because you'll need it.


If I had a gun and a bottle of Crown Royal handy it won't be to read some freakin' comic book.
 
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