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(The Atlantic Wire)   While it may no longer be an Olympic sport, TV viewers were treated to a world-class exhibition of softball Sunday when CBS' Bob Schieffer conducted the first joint Romney-Ryan interview   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 54
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2012-08-13 10:01:47 AM
 
2012-08-13 10:20:10 AM
In before paid shills tell us why Ryan will save the Republican party and liberate the US people from the liberal threat, all while carrying a cross and wrapped in The Flag.
 
2012-08-13 10:27:28 AM
Saw this interview. No follow-ups on anything. I've seen foot rubs more confrontational than this.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2012-08-13 10:35:09 AM
Schieffer thinks if he's nice to Ryan, he'll get to keep his Medicare.
 
2012-08-13 10:35:21 AM
I watched the interview this morning. Bob, I am disappoint.
 
2012-08-13 11:03:48 AM
Romney: "We're not going to cut taxes for high-income people."

And CBS is so super duper liberal Schieffer didn't followup on this enormous lie.
 
2012-08-13 11:16:55 AM

jbc: Schieffer thinks if he's nice to Ryan, he'll get to keep his Medicare.


FTW
 
2012-08-13 11:42:17 AM
They finally learned their lesson after asking all those unfair, gotcha questions the last time around.
 
2012-08-13 11:49:00 AM
The way the 2 tax cheats handled the issue of their tax returns, I thought they were playing dodgeball.
 
2012-08-13 11:50:04 AM

mrshowrules: Saw this interview. No follow-ups on anything. I've seen foot rubs more confrontational than this.


Tony Rocky Horror agrees.
 
2012-08-13 11:50:38 AM
Romney first deflects by saying the wealthy will still pay "the greatest share of taxes." This is technically true. But the wealthy can collectively pay a greater share of the taxes relative to the middle-class, and still be getting a huge windfall that they do not need and would not serve the nation's needs. It's a talking point that dodges the criticism, not addresses it.

But Romney then makes a giant rhetorical leap from that to say: "we're not going to reduce taxes for high-income people." That is not the same as talking about the aggregate share of taxes relative to other income groups. That is say a wealthy individual will not pay less under Romney's plan tomorrow than he or she does today.

And that's a stone-cold lie. Link

Par for the course.
 
2012-08-13 11:50:49 AM
OTOH if you're mean to Republicans during interviews, they don't grant you further interviews, which the executive producers will get on your ass about because they have less to show, thus dropping their ratings.

Don't only blame Schieffer, blame the cyclical system of accepting lies and money.
 
2012-08-13 11:51:13 AM

BSABSVR: mrshowrules: Saw this interview. No follow-ups on anything. I've seen foot rubs more confrontational than this.

Tony Rocky Horror agrees.



/+1
 
2012-08-13 11:51:47 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: and still be getting a huge windfall that they do not need


ugh
 
2012-08-13 11:51:54 AM

EyeballKid: The way the 2 tax cheats handled the issue of their tax returns, I thought they were playing dodgeball.


Not at all. Dodgeball actually requires you to attack someone else. Romney doesn't care how many other people evade their taxes as long as he gets to do it too.
 
2012-08-13 11:52:07 AM
It's the first week folks, traditionally the MSM gives the nom a two week pass to introduce themselves. Wait a week or two before the "which magazines?" questions come out.
 
2012-08-13 11:52:40 AM
Damn the liberal media for being so soft in an interview with the Republican ticket that it makes them all look bad. Does their evil scheming know no bounds?
 
2012-08-13 11:52:47 AM
I still can't get over the fact that they thought it was a good idea to wear matching shirts to the interview.

Anyway, we can probably expect lots more softball. The Village has already decided long ago that Ryan is a Smart, Serious Person and he'll be treated like it.
 
2012-08-13 11:53:39 AM
I don't think it's good form to just go on the attack right out of the gate.

A piece introducing Ryan to the American public can do just that, can't it?

There will be plenty of time to examine with a more critical eye.
 
2012-08-13 11:54:28 AM
If you ask a single hard question to republicans or say a single negative thing about them you will be part of the liberal media conspiracy. I don't know why they feel they have more to gain by placating republicans than by just reporting the news, conservatives aren't suddenly going to like CBS and abandon foxnews for them.
 
2012-08-13 11:54:51 AM

mrshowrules: jbc: Schieffer thinks if he's nice to Ryan, he'll get to keep his Medicare.

FTW


Agreed. That's gold.
 
2012-08-13 11:55:18 AM
I didn't watch the interview, but I'm not all that outraged about this. I think this is fairly standard. The "introductory" interview is a series of softballs. The next one, they start whipping fastballs. But you get one easy one.

Put this way (this is an actual question, I don't know the answer): on the first Sunday after Biden was announced, did the Sunday interviews go after them hammer and tongs?
 
2012-08-13 11:56:57 AM
Oh, there's plenty of time left to trap them with their own words. No need to go guns blazing on day 1
 
2012-08-13 11:58:04 AM

Here Comes Everybody: I still can't get over the fact that they thought it was a good idea to wear matching shirts to the interview.


Why not? They already have matching hair
 
2012-08-13 11:59:37 AM
It's almost like CBS, in an effort to get the first interview, offered the easiest interview to the campaign. It's almost like this happens to every campaign in the history of media. It's almost like the infamous Palin/Curic interview was exactly the same thing and Palin just f*cked it up. It's almost like people's adversarial nature has been turned up to 11 by some unknown force. It's almost like the job of an honest and forthright media is to present both candidates without bias of any kind, and that when each candidate's positions become public through debate the media is to give an honest, fact based portrayal of the positions. Leaving the public to decided for the themselves which they prefer, and if one plan sounds idiotic and offensive to the public well then that just sucks for that candidate.
 
2012-08-13 12:00:26 PM
You have to let the guy have his bounce. Unless you're part of the Obama campaign, coming out on day 1 with guns blazing about Paul Ryan could be counter-productive. There will be ample time to define him and show voters what he is about.
 
2012-08-13 12:00:41 PM
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Was anyone else bothered by that shadow under Ryan's nose?
 
2012-08-13 12:03:03 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: You have to let the guy have his bounce. Unless you're part of the Obama campaign, coming out on day 1 with guns blazing about Paul Ryan could be counter-productive. There will be ample time to define him and show voters what he is about.


This would be true, except the only significant thing that Ryan has is his budget, and the Romney campaign is already trying to distance itself from it. Bizarrely, the Romney campaign is the one that has to define Ryan, and the Obama campaign just needs to keep them off balance.
 
2012-08-13 12:04:55 PM

WI241TH: [i.imgur.com image 300x222]
Was anyone else bothered by that shadow under Ryan's nose?


Photo-Godwin.
 
2012-08-13 12:05:21 PM

Here Comes Everybody: I still can't get over the fact that they thought it was a good idea to wear matching shirts to the interview.

Anyway, we can probably expect lots more softball. The Village has already decided long ago that Ryan is a Smart, Serious Person and he'll be treated like it.


Well He's the designated Not Palin, so expect the media to treat him like the second coming of Albert Einstein since they don't know how to do nuance anymore
 
2012-08-13 12:13:14 PM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-08-13 12:17:46 PM
Was Ryan able to answer the question "What newspapers do you read?" without being reduced to greasy snowbilly tears?
 
2012-08-13 12:21:29 PM

sprawl15: DROxINxTHExWIND: You have to let the guy have his bounce. Unless you're part of the Obama campaign, coming out on day 1 with guns blazing about Paul Ryan could be counter-productive. There will be ample time to define him and show voters what he is about.

This would be true, except the only significant thing that Ryan has is his budget, and the Romney campaign is already trying to distance itself from it. Bizarrely, the Romney campaign is the one that has to define Ryan, and the Obama campaign just needs to keep them off balance.


True, but defining him will be about much more than his budget. If that is the focus, there will be a lot of time lost trying to determine what the budget means since neither Romney or Ryan will give specifics on which programs will be cut.
 
2012-08-13 12:21:42 PM

WhoIsWillo: [24.media.tumblr.com image 850x580]


Which is Data and which is Lore?
 
2012-08-13 12:23:37 PM

indylaw: Was Ryan able to answer the question "What newspapers do you read?" without being reduced to greasy snowbilly tears?


No, but I think he can see China and Iran from his house.
 
2012-08-13 12:24:55 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: Which is Data and which is Lore?


Well, actually, one of them would be B4, because that would be a Nemesis quote, but traditionally Data is Romney.
 
2012-08-13 12:25:12 PM
Headline is actually a pretty good argument against liberal media bias given that Obama hasn't had a single tough question ever given to him by the media either.
 
2012-08-13 12:30:51 PM
Was anyone else bothered by that shadow under Ryan's nose?

Nien, Nien, Nien !

/// Schieffer's been phoning it in for years... he used to a real journalist, though.
 
2012-08-13 12:35:59 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Romney first deflects by saying the wealthy will still pay "the greatest share of taxes." This is technically true. But the wealthy can collectively pay a greater share of the taxes relative to the middle-class, and still be getting a huge windfall that they do not need and would not serve the nation's needs. It's a talking point that dodges the criticism, not addresses it.

But Romney then makes a giant rhetorical leap from that to say: "we're not going to reduce taxes for high-income people." That is not the same as talking about the aggregate share of taxes relative to other income groups. That is say a wealthy individual will not pay less under Romney's plan tomorrow than he or she does today.

And that's a stone-cold lie. Link

Par for the course.


Right there. Thats what the conservatives hate/fear. They would interpret that as socialism and people feeling entitled to someone else's money.

The fear of socialism is just plain derp. I love how my parents generation conflates socialism with Soviet Russia. Derptastic.

But in a way I kind of see the concerned with others feeling entitled to what someone else earned. I wouldn't like it if someone came up to me and said "I want to service but dont have the money. So you are going to pay for it." I dont think many libs would either.

However, this isnt necessarily the case with all taxes and situations.
 
2012-08-13 12:37:36 PM

WhoIsWillo: [24.media.tumblr.com image 850x580]


They are mirrors for each other... for what could be or might have been.
 
2012-08-13 12:40:42 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: OTOH if you're mean to Republicans during interviews, they don't grant you further interviews, which the executive producers will get on your ass about because they have less to show, thus dropping their ratings.

Don't only blame Schieffer, blame the cyclical system of accepting lies and money.


Back when Meet the Press was, well, Meet the Press, it was so popular that politicians had to go on it even though Tim Russert asked uncomfortable questions. It had a wide audience, and if you didn't, you were a dishonest little sissy.

Sort of like how a politician who actually gives the middle finger to the super-rich will win again and again like Bernie Sanders. If the Democrats all did that, the Republicans would be toast.

But like the Dems, the media thinks it has to play the game just to get by.
 
2012-08-13 12:43:26 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: neither Romney or Ryan will give specifics on which programs will be cut.


Not to mention the tax "loopholes" they plan on closing that will allow them to cut taxes on everybody while increasing revenue. What a crock of shiat.
 
2012-08-13 12:45:08 PM
I'm not having a problem with this. No reason to be confrontational with Ryan until after the Convention.
 
2012-08-13 12:56:57 PM
For what it's worth, Schieffer's younger brother is a friend and former business partner of George W. Bush.

/Nice, elegant headline, subby.
 
2012-08-13 12:59:00 PM

WhoIsWillo: Lenny_da_Hog: Which is Data and which is Lore?

Well, actually, one of them would be B4, because that would be a Nemesis quote, but traditionally Data is Romney.


I would have also said Lore, I forgot about B4. I crown you Nerd King for a day.
 
2012-08-13 01:05:55 PM

BMulligan: For what it's worth, Schieffer's younger brother is a friend and former business partner of George W. Bush.

/Nice, elegant headline, subby.


Don't think it means much by itself. I know I wouldn't want to be tied to the political views of my family members.
 
2012-08-13 01:06:17 PM
I think we need a Fark poll on what questions to ask. My two choices are as follows:

Like how will medicare survive if the vouchers you propose which are tied to the CPI do not cover the increase cost in medical coverage when medical care has almost always grown in cost much greater than the CPI?

Why did Mr. Ryan give you multiple years of tax returns but yet you have not even release one full years worth of returns?
 
2012-08-13 01:07:49 PM

DamnYankees: BMulligan: For what it's worth, Schieffer's younger brother is a friend and former business partner of George W. Bush.

/Nice, elegant headline, subby.

Don't think it means much by itself. I know I wouldn't want to be tied to the political views of my family members.


A fair point.
 
2012-08-13 01:11:27 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: The same liberal media conspiracy CBS that ran the headline, "Rejoice! It's Ryan!"?

Unpossible.


Wow.
 
2012-08-13 01:26:41 PM

PanicMan: WhoIsWillo: Lenny_da_Hog: Which is Data and which is Lore?

Well, actually, one of them would be B4, because that would be a Nemesis quote, but traditionally Data is Romney.

I would have also said Lore, I forgot about B4. I crown you Nerd King for a day.


I am so uncool. I also forgot about B4.
 
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