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(Talking Points Memo)   McCain manages to compare Romney picking Ryan to himself picking Palin as "a bold move" before Romney sprints across the country and frantically slaps his hand over McCain's mouth   (2012.talkingpointsmemo.com ) divider line 70
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2012-08-13 09:41:58 AM  
It's funny how the face of desperation hasn't changed much in 4 years
 
2012-08-13 09:47:27 AM  
B/c it worked out so well for McCain last time around and Ryan won't help Romney at all....in fact he can kiss carrying Florida at all due to Ryan!
 
2012-08-13 09:57:10 AM  
www.esotericarticles.com

that's a bold statement
 
2012-08-13 10:01:19 AM  
Let's take whether picking Ryan was a smart choice or not off the table for a second.

Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?
 
2012-08-13 10:02:25 AM  
I love how McCain just gives zero farks right now.
 
2012-08-13 10:13:58 AM  

Diogenes: Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?


It's saying "F*ck you old people'

That's kind of bold.
 
2012-08-13 10:15:24 AM  

Diogenes: Let's take whether picking Ryan was a smart choice or not off the table for a second.

Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?


For Romney, nailing down any decision irrevocably is considered "bold."

Of course, in another week, we may see him retroactively choose another VP candidate, so I have a "wait and see" attitude"...
 
2012-08-13 10:24:25 AM  

growinthings: B/c it worked out so well for McCain last time around and Ryan won't help Romney at all....in fact he can kiss carrying Florida at all due to Ryan!


That was my first thought too. The superpac ads attacking the Ryan plan have probably already started in FL. I wouldn't be suprised to see them show up on fark today. The fun part is where they can give people like the Newt guest appearances completely trashing the plan. It's also the double whammy of SS and medicare. Rmoney can try to distance himself from the Ryan plan all he wants but it's going to stick.
 
2012-08-13 10:26:51 AM  

Aarontology: Diogenes: Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?

It's saying "F*ck you old people'

That's kind of bold.


I actually heard some old lady being interviewed here in the leadup to Romney's appearance today. She's very cool with Romney and his pick. When asked about potential Medicare issues she pretty much said, "I'm too old for it to affect me, so fark you! I'm voting Romney."
 
2012-08-13 10:28:51 AM  

Diogenes: Aarontology: Diogenes: Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?

It's saying "F*ck you old people'

That's kind of bold.

I actually heard some old lady being interviewed here in the leadup to Romney's appearance today. She's very cool with Romney and his pick. When asked about potential Medicare issues she pretty much said, "I'm too old for it to affect me, so fark you! I'm voting Romney."


She's everything that's wrong with America.
 
2012-08-13 10:34:15 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: I love how McCain just gives zero farks right now.


i48.tinypic.com

"You guys want to sh*t all over my pick and my campaign? Son, I'm geriatric. I can sh*t for days. Welcome to the sh*tzone!"

 
2012-08-13 10:44:57 AM  

Diogenes: Let's take whether picking Ryan was a smart choice or not off the table for a second.

Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?


Shooting yourself in the foot is a version of bold.
 
2012-08-13 10:45:42 AM  
Even if he's not specifically comparing Palin to Ryan, everyone now has their prize sound bite.

God DAYUM, I love 2012 McCain. He really is like your old grand-dad who just doesn't give a shiat anymore.
 
2012-08-13 10:47:03 AM  

Diogenes: I actually heard some old lady being interviewed here in the leadup to Romney's appearance today. She's very cool with Romney and his pick. When asked about potential Medicare issues she pretty much said, "I'm too old for it to affect me, so fark you! I'm voting Romney."


"I've got mine, so fark you." The face of today's GOP.
 
2012-08-13 11:00:28 AM  
My only explanation is that John McCain despises the GOP so damned much right now that he's just trolling the hell out of them. Every interview with him seems to be filled with this amazing back-handed support.

"I support Romney completely. The fact that he pays almost no taxes is just a red herring used by Obama, and while it may be totally working it's just, you know, kind of mean, which really hurts Mitt's tender feelings."
 
2012-08-13 11:03:10 AM  
Call him a Maverick next!
 
2012-08-13 11:03:17 AM  
Octogenarians shouldn't comment on politics...much less be considered for office. Septuagenarians either.
 
2012-08-13 11:10:40 AM  

I_C_Weener: Octogenarians shouldn't comment on politics...much less be considered for office. Septuagenarians either.


But let's get to what really matters: who does Octomom endorse?
 
2012-08-13 11:19:02 AM  

Diogenes: Let's take whether picking Ryan was a smart choice or not off the table for a second.

Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?


You can't separate those two issues. It was a "bold" choice because it was stupid.
 
2012-08-13 11:19:20 AM  
"First of all, the selection is made as to who will best help you get nominated and who you believe is best suited for the role of vice president of the United States," the senator said.

In other words, making sure the person is best suited for the office comes second to making sure the person can help you win.
 
2012-08-13 11:20:59 AM  

Diogenes: Aarontology: Diogenes: Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?

It's saying "F*ck you old people'

That's kind of bold.

I actually heard some old lady being interviewed here in the leadup to Romney's appearance today. She's very cool with Romney and his pick. When asked about potential Medicare issues she pretty much said, "I'm too old for it to affect me, so fark you! I'm voting Romney."


This conservative attitude always reminds me of when Homer runs out of the nuclear power-plant and blocks the fire escape door with a chair once he is out.
 
2012-08-13 11:22:33 AM  

Chameleon: My only explanation is that John McCain despises the GOP so damned much right now that he's just trolling the hell out of them. Every interview with him seems to be filled with this amazing back-handed support.

"I support Romney completely. The fact that he pays almost no taxes is just a red herring used by Obama, and while it may be totally working it's just, you know, kind of mean, which really hurts Mitt's tender feelings."


Did he really say that because if so, he might go back in my good books?
 
2012-08-13 12:08:56 PM  

Aarontology: Diogenes: Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?

It's saying "F*ck you old people'

That's kind of bold.


It's bold in the way that it's a bad thing to b old.
 
2012-08-13 12:18:38 PM  

Diogenes: Let's take whether picking Ryan was a smart choice or not off the table for a second.

Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?


No one has ever picked a boring, white, male, career politician for VP before.
 
2012-08-13 12:18:41 PM  

Aarontology: Diogenes: Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?

It's saying "F*ck you old people'

That's kind of bold.


He's never proposed changing anything for people over 55. If anything he's saying "F*ck you young people."
 
2012-08-13 12:20:05 PM  
wait, what the hell? I have a greenlight for this article that's going on the page in an hour. Seriously mods? If you bloody well dump mine for this I'll beat you over the head with your own livers.

/"McCain: Obama attacks successfully paint Romney as being unacceptable. And if anyone knows about being unacceptable"
//totally better headline then this one
 
2012-08-13 12:21:17 PM  

Diogenes: Let's take whether picking Ryan was a smart choice or not off the table for a second.

Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?


But seriously. I think it's because there were other, safer options - Portman, McDonnell, Rubio - who would have brought electoral gains to the ticket while not bringing along a dangerous economic policy. In theory, Paul Ryan's upside counters these drawbacks. So it's "bold", in that Romney didn't go with a safe choice, but instead made a risky bet.

What are Paul Ryan's upsides? This is a fine question. "He's not Mitt Romney" is probably very close to the top.
 
2012-08-13 12:21:59 PM  
But is it a daring decision?
www.sogoodblog.com
 
2012-08-13 12:25:52 PM  

Diogenes: Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?


Well, out of the dozens of potential candidates, he managed to pick one of the five absolute worst.

Similar to how some guy showing up for work in leather chaps, an adult diaper for a hat and nothing else would be bold.
 
2012-08-13 12:26:44 PM  
I agree that it's bold, in the same way that licking an electric fence is bold.
 
2012-08-13 12:28:03 PM  

Aarontology: Diogenes: Aarontology: Diogenes: Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?

It's saying "F*ck you old people'

That's kind of bold.

I actually heard some old lady being interviewed here in the leadup to Romney's appearance today. She's very cool with Romney and his pick. When asked about potential Medicare issues she pretty much said, "I'm too old for it to affect me, so fark you! I'm voting Romney."

She's everything that's wrong with America.


And proud of it!

Bonus points when something goes wrong that she whines that no one is helping her.
 
2012-08-13 12:28:57 PM  
McCain could kick Romney's ass with one hand awkwardly held against his stomach.

Ryan is an excellent speaker (when not forced to read scripts written by Romney's campaign team), handsome, and smart. For a candidate who had no chance with a neutral VP candidate like Pawlenty, Ryan is an excellent choice. At the very least, he'll draw crowds and get money flowing in.
 
2012-08-13 12:29:29 PM  

NewportBarGuy: God Is My Co-Pirate: I love how McCain just gives zero farks right now.

[i48.tinypic.com image 450x312]

"You guys want to sh*t all over my pick and my campaign? Son, I'm geriatric. I can sh*t for days. Welcome to the sh*tzone!"


profile.ak.fbcdn.net

"I like the cut of your jib, shiatweasel"
 
2012-08-13 12:30:13 PM  
Hey Mitt, great choice on VP. I've got another bit of advice for you - when the going gets tough, just announce that you are suspending your campaign indefinitely, cancel all appearances, and pull all advertising. This works best if you deploy this cunning stunt sometime in early October.
 
2012-08-13 12:30:48 PM  

Diogenes: Let's take whether picking Ryan was a smart choice or not off the table for a second.

Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?


Because the Ryan budget is dead weight around the campaign, and Freepers are calling Ryan a RINO?
 
2012-08-13 12:31:32 PM  

GAT_00: Diogenes: Let's take whether picking Ryan was a smart choice or not off the table for a second.

Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?

Shooting yourself in the foot is a version of bold.


Not if your feet already look like Swiss cheese. The bullets just got through the holes and hit the ground.
 
2012-08-13 12:32:36 PM  
TFA says "Romney's home state of Ohio."

I thought his home state was Michigan. You know, where the trees are the right height.
 
2012-08-13 12:33:09 PM  

Diogenes: Aarontology: Diogenes: Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?

It's saying "F*ck you old people'

That's kind of bold.

I actually heard some old lady being interviewed here in the leadup to Romney's appearance today. She's very cool with Romney and his pick. When asked about potential Medicare issues she pretty much said, "I'm too old for it to affect me, so fark you! I'm voting Romney."


Yep. Ryan's plan very carefully sets a cutoff of age 55, so the Me Generation can blithely skate off into eternity with their parents' legacy intact and leaving a swath of destruction in their wake. Underestimate their eagerness to do this at your peril.
 
2012-08-13 12:35:55 PM  

FooDog: NewportBarGuy: God Is My Co-Pirate: I love how McCain just gives zero farks right now.

[i48.tinypic.com image 450x312]

"You guys want to sh*t all over my pick and my campaign? Son, I'm geriatric. I can sh*t for days. Welcome to the sh*tzone!"

[profile.ak.fbcdn.net image 180x272]

"I like the cut of your jib, shiatweasel"


You goddamned shiatbuzzard, i just scrolled down this shiat for nothing to post the same shiatpicture.
the shiatwinds are rustling.
 
2012-08-13 12:36:04 PM  

Diogenes: Let's take whether picking Ryan was a smart choice or not off the table for a second.

Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?



Plus, a ticket with a Mormon and a Catholic is sure to make evangelicals' heads explode. Women and minorities alike aren't big fans of Ryan.

So, in addition to writing off women, minorities, evangelicals, and Florida, the pick's not going to play well with anyone who wasn't already planning to vote for him. It may increase turnout numbers among the Teahadists, I suppose.
 
2012-08-13 12:37:35 PM  

sammyk: growinthings: B/c it worked out so well for McCain last time around and Ryan won't help Romney at all....in fact he can kiss carrying Florida at all due to Ryan!

That was my first thought too. The superpac ads attacking the Ryan plan have probably already started in FL. I wouldn't be suprised to see them show up on fark today. The fun part is where they can give people like the Newt guest appearances completely trashing the plan. It's also the double whammy of SS and medicare. Rmoney can try to distance himself from the Ryan plan all he wants but it's going to stick.


What's funny, if you give Pennsylvania (which is strictly-speaking a battleground, but if Obama loses there, he lost anyway) and Florida (and it was leaning that way before, watch it now) to the Democrats, and pretend that New Hampshire is going to go Republican (not 100% but I'm being fair), the Democrats have 262 of 270 needed.

i.imgur.com

Obama would only need to win ONE of these states yellow states: Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Wisconsin and Colorado to win. He also could with a combination of smaller states, Iowa and New Hampshire for instance.

If the Romney campaign is sacrificing FL, you have to assume they never wanted to win to start, because it's a simply bizarre choice.
 
2012-08-13 12:37:40 PM  

retarded: TFA says "Romney's home state of Ohio."

I thought his home state was Michigan. You know, where the trees are the right height.


That definitely raises some questions about his place of birth...
 
2012-08-13 12:42:33 PM  

Curse of the Goth Kids: Diogenes: Aarontology: Diogenes: Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?

It's saying "F*ck you old people'

That's kind of bold.

I actually heard some old lady being interviewed here in the leadup to Romney's appearance today. She's very cool with Romney and his pick. When asked about potential Medicare issues she pretty much said, "I'm too old for it to affect me, so fark you! I'm voting Romney."

Yep. Ryan's plan very carefully sets a cutoff of age 55, so the Me Generation can blithely skate off into eternity with their parents' legacy intact and leaving a swath of destruction in their wake. Underestimate their eagerness to do this at your peril.


Yes, but the 55+ age group hates the plan.
Yes, it's from over a year ago, but all the polls from when it was first introduced had it disliked once you told people that if they were 55+ they wouldn't see a change but anyone younger would. It's almost as if seniors realized that the blatant pandering was blatant pandering for once.

I've seen recent reports (one on this tab too) that Ryan's budget plan is still disliked once people are told what is in it.
 
2012-08-13 12:44:54 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: Similar to how some guy showing up for work in leather chaps, an adult diaper for a hat and nothing else would be bold.


Only if the chaps were assless.

/the trap is set
 
2012-08-13 12:45:28 PM  

meat0918: Curse of the Goth Kids: Diogenes: Aarontology: Diogenes: Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?

It's saying "F*ck you old people'

That's kind of bold.

I actually heard some old lady being interviewed here in the leadup to Romney's appearance today. She's very cool with Romney and his pick. When asked about potential Medicare issues she pretty much said, "I'm too old for it to affect me, so fark you! I'm voting Romney."

Yep. Ryan's plan very carefully sets a cutoff of age 55, so the Me Generation can blithely skate off into eternity with their parents' legacy intact and leaving a swath of destruction in their wake. Underestimate their eagerness to do this at your peril.

Yes, but the 55+ age group hates the plan. Yes, it's from over a year ago, but all the polls from when it was first introduced had it disliked once you told people that if they were 55+ they wouldn't see a change but anyone younger would. It's almost as if seniors realized that the blatant pandering was blatant pandering for once.

I've seen recent reports (one on this tab too) that Ryan's budget plan is still disliked once people are told what is in it.


I think a lot of those people in the 55+ age group really like Medicare, and they'd like to see their kids and grandkids have it one day, too.
 
2012-08-13 12:46:17 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: the shiatwinds are rustling.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-13 12:46:38 PM  

meat0918: Diogenes: Let's take whether picking Ryan was a smart choice or not off the table for a second.

Someone please explain to me how the choice was "bold"?

Because the Ryan budget is dead weight around the campaign, and Freepers are calling Ryan a RINO?


When did Freepers call Ryan a RINO? They seemed pretty happy on Saturday morning.
 
2012-08-13 12:47:02 PM  

saintstryfe: sammyk: growinthings: B/c it worked out so well for McCain last time around and Ryan won't help Romney at all....in fact he can kiss carrying Florida at all due to Ryan!

That was my first thought too. The superpac ads attacking the Ryan plan have probably already started in FL. I wouldn't be suprised to see them show up on fark today. The fun part is where they can give people like the Newt guest appearances completely trashing the plan. It's also the double whammy of SS and medicare. Rmoney can try to distance himself from the Ryan plan all he wants but it's going to stick.

What's funny, if you give Pennsylvania (which is strictly-speaking a battleground, but if Obama loses there, he lost anyway) and Florida (and it was leaning that way before, watch it now) to the Democrats, and pretend that New Hampshire is going to go Republican (not 100% but I'm being fair), the Democrats have 262 of 270 needed.

[i.imgur.com image 500x376]

Obama would only need to win ONE of these states yellow states: Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Wisconsin and Colorado to win. He also could with a combination of smaller states, Iowa and New Hampshire for instance.

If the Romney campaign is sacrificing FL, you have to assume they never wanted to win to start, because it's a simply bizarre choice.


Even giving Romney Ohio, Virginia, Wisconsin, Iowa, Colorado and Nevada won't give him the win.

Best case for Romney/Ryan.

Romney would have to go on an epic streak of upsets, and the numbers just aren't there. There would have to be a MASSIVE change occurring in the next 88 days.

The odds are ridiculously against him without Florida. And he just gave it away on Saturday.
 
2012-08-13 12:48:21 PM  
Pissing onto an electric fence is, also, a bold move.
 
2012-08-13 12:53:11 PM  
a friend of mine posted this over in another forum and I thought it made it's point very well.


Ryan's dad passed away when he was young and he relied on Social Security survivor's benefits to help pay for his education and to get ahead in life. Now he wants to cut off those benefits for everyone else.

When Ryan went into a meeting to get the inside info of what was happening in the financial crisis, that very same day he sold his stock holdings in the banks that he heard were in a lot of trouble and moved them into the one big bank that looked ok: Goldman Sachs. Later he signed ther STOCK Act saying that there's no way that insider trading can be tolerated.

Ryan claims he's all about controlling gov't spending and fixing the economy and the debt. But he voted for all that new, unpaid spending and all those unpaid tax cuts under Bush while at the same time reflexively voting NO against everything during Obama's Admin that might help the debt or the economy.

What an utter piece of shiat for a human being this guy is. He has a lot of gall to call himself a Christian.
 
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