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(Talking Points Memo)   GOP: Obama cut Medicare too, so vote Republican   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 41
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2012-08-13 12:09:20 PM
The only people who vote republican are rich and/or stupid
 
2012-08-13 12:10:42 PM
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2012-08-13 12:11:12 PM
The Romney campaign has successfully trapped the Romney campaign yet again!
 
2012-08-13 12:13:09 PM
Reince Priebus might be the male version of Sarah Palin. He's at LEAST as stupid.
 
2012-08-13 12:13:26 PM
Yeah criticize Obama for saving taxpayer money and keeping health care benefits the same. This talking point will work better than the last one! I just know it!
 
2012-08-13 12:13:50 PM
The only answer is none, none medicare.
 
2012-08-13 12:14:13 PM

CPennypacker: The only people who vote republican are rich and/or stupid


Even the rich are filing into the stupid column.

Seriously, history isn't that far from repeating itself. Crappy reality TV and Food Stamps will only keep the population complacent for so long (especially when your party is trying to gut the food stamp program).
 
2012-08-13 12:14:40 PM
The issue is not "cut", numbnuts. It's telling seniors, who no private insurer want to cover at a resonable sum, "Here's a voucher worth a reasonable sum. Go buy cover."
 
2012-08-13 12:15:57 PM
Wait. If the same reimbursement reduction is in Ryan's plan, how is this somehow 'bad'?
 
2012-08-13 12:16:03 PM
There is no room for fact in Republican politics.
 
2012-08-13 12:16:39 PM
Stupid TaxdollarSavingObama! We should take all the money we'd spend on Medicare, put it in a big cardboard box, and leave the box on the street corner with a note that anyone can take as much as they want, but they have to promise to try and pay it back next year.
 
2012-08-13 12:17:08 PM

meat0918: CPennypacker: The only people who vote republican are rich and/or stupid

Even the rich are filing into the stupid column.

Seriously, history isn't that far from repeating itself. Crappy reality TV and Food Stamps will only keep the population complacent for so long (especially when your party is trying to gut the food stamp program).


If they had any foresight at all they would see that their continued wealth relies on people being able to purchase their products and services. Even if they just invest, the companies they invest in need to sell to someone.
 
2012-08-13 12:17:10 PM
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2012-08-13 12:17:26 PM
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2012-08-13 12:17:31 PM

Zmog: The issue is not "cut", numbnuts. It's telling seniors, who no private insurer want to cover at a resonable sum, "Here's a voucher worth a reasonable sum. Go buy cover."


Socialize the risk, privatize the profits.

It's the American Way!
 
2012-08-13 12:17:55 PM

GBmanNC: Yeah criticize Obama for saving taxpayer money and keeping health care benefits the same. This talking point will work better than the last one! I just know it!


This bears repeating
 
2012-08-13 12:17:56 PM

Cinaed: Wait. If the same reimbursement reduction is in Ryan's plan, how is this somehow 'bad'?


Zmog: The issue is not "cut", numbnuts. It's telling seniors, who no private insurer want to cover at a resonable sum, "Here's a voucher worth a reasonable sum. Go buy cover."

 
2012-08-13 12:18:03 PM

tnpir: Reince Priebus might be the male version of Sarah Palin. He's at LEAST as stupid.


I'm looking forward to Reince Priebus losing his gig at the RNC and becoming a greeter at Walmart.

"Welcome to Walmart, you dirty liar."
 
2012-08-13 12:19:15 PM
Obama only feeds your grandma catfood because its politically "practical". Republicans want to feed her catfood.

So vote Democrat.
 
2012-08-13 12:19:31 PM

CPennypacker: meat0918: CPennypacker: The only people who vote republican are rich and/or stupid

Even the rich are filing into the stupid column.

Seriously, history isn't that far from repeating itself. Crappy reality TV and Food Stamps will only keep the population complacent for so long (especially when your party is trying to gut the food stamp program).

If they had any foresight at all they would see that their continued wealth relies on people being able to purchase their products and services. Even if they just invest, the companies they invest in need to sell to someone.


But heaven forbid they pay 3% more on earned income over $250,000.

It's not like the income tax rate is actually connected to investment anyways..
 
2012-08-13 12:20:11 PM
Mark my words, if the Ryan voucher plan passes, you will be able to use your voucher to get "health care" at WalMart and Costco. You have herpes. Next.
 
2012-08-13 12:21:39 PM

Cinaed: Wait. If the same reimbursement reduction is in Ryan's plan, how is this somehow 'bad'?


Because when Obama does it (which he actually didn't, but for the sake of argument...) he's being uppity. No one likes an uppity president.
 
2012-08-13 12:28:24 PM
Romney will sign the Ryan budget on day 1, but only sign the portions you happen to like. Trust him, he has great hair
 
2012-08-13 12:35:55 PM

Lost Thought 00: Trust him, he has great hair


D'oh!

Stupid Flanders.
 
2012-08-13 12:37:21 PM
And then they'll turn around and claim that Democrats are afraid to tackle issues like Medicare.

The Dems cut Medicare in 1993 and in 2010--and paid the price at the polls both times.

And the difference between those reforms and the ones proposed by Republicans: People still get Medicare after the Democratic reforms.
 
2012-08-13 12:38:28 PM

meat0918: CPennypacker: The only people who vote republican are rich and/or stupid

Even the rich are filing into the stupid column.


But they know the Konami Code:

Bloody William: Do you want to know what class warfare is? Class warfare is Contra.

You have one group of people who know the Konami code. They use it at the beginning of the game to get 30 lives. They often beat the game because they have so many chances to keep going. If they fail a few times, they have plenty of resources to keep fighting the boss and reach the next level.

You have another group of people who don't have the Konami code. Or, worse yet, they get punished for entering the Konami code. They get 3 lives and can't continue. If they screw up a few times, they're done. They can't go back. They can't keep going. Very good or lucky players can beat the game with those 3 lives, but the vast majority of both the people in this group and the people in the group who get 30 lives can't. They are the exception.

The people in the former group say that Contra is easy because they can get far and often beat the game, and they point at the few people in the latter group who manage to do it too as proof. That doesn't make Contra actually easy. it only means that one group of people get a great opportunity and tons of extra lives, and a few members of the other group of people are skilled and lucky enough to get as far.
 
2012-08-13 12:41:23 PM
The gop's plan is just: 'Democrats aren't perfect so vote for us because shut up.'
 
2012-08-13 01:20:54 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this:

In 2010, Democrats change Medicare law so that "Medicare Advantage" plans get the same reimbursement as the government gives itself. It was thought that "Medicare Advantage" or "Medicare Part C" was going to reduce costs on its own, "power of the free market" and all that, but it didn't, and the plug was pulled. If Republicans were in power in 2010 they too would have pulled the plug.

Now, in 2012, Paul Ryan and Co. are basically turning to the "power of the free market" again, after it was already proven to not lower costs before.

Am I missing something?
 
2012-08-13 02:21:25 PM
Wait until they find out he will completely eliminate Medicare!

And replace it with the APA...

I just dont think they really understand how Universal Health care works.
 
2012-08-13 03:03:50 PM

NeverDrunk23: The gop's plan is just: 'Democrats aren't perfect so vote for us because shut up.'


Exactly.
 
2012-08-13 03:06:17 PM
"Ryan's own budget blueprint included the same Medicare cuts as the Affordable Care Act. Nearly all Republicans in both chambers, including Thune, voted for it."
 
2012-08-13 03:06:58 PM
Yes, Republicans, an anticipated reduction in government money lost to fraud is the exact same thing as a reduction of services. Telling that the Republicans believe the government exists to pay criminals, and sees a reduction of that as dysfunction. Give republicans everything they want, and soon enough we'll be able to hunt them for sport. Being an enviromentalist, I'll feed everyone I shoot to gay penguins.
 
2012-08-13 03:16:45 PM
So one side keeps the benefits exactly the same and cuts expenses on the back end. The other side cuts benefits but allows expenses to beneficiaries to rise astronomically, thereby cutting benefits received even more. And the current beneficiaries prefer the second option?
 
2012-08-13 04:06:00 PM
More like "Obama actually did do something that liberals have screamed Republicans would do for decades now... All to cover his own ass so his ridiculous health care bill would seem to cost a lot less than it actually will."

And comically, when Republicans talk about Medicare reform they don't ever actually talk about doing it for purely selfish rear end covering reasons. It would be like if Bush took money out of Medicare so he could cover up the cost of the Iraq war. I'm just trying to imagine the liberal raging fit if he'd tried that.
 
2012-08-13 04:09:33 PM

GentDirkly: Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this:

In 2010, Democrats change Medicare law so that "Medicare Advantage" plans get the same reimbursement as the government gives itself. It was thought that "Medicare Advantage" or "Medicare Part C" was going to reduce costs on its own, "power of the free market" and all that, but it didn't, and the plug was pulled. If Republicans were in power in 2010 they too would have pulled the plug.

Now, in 2012, Paul Ryan and Co. are basically turning to the "power of the free market" again, after it was already proven to not lower costs before.

Am I missing something?



the GOP's penchant for cognitive dissonance?
 
2012-08-13 04:12:34 PM

randomjsa: More like "Obama actually did do something that liberals have screamed Republicans would do for decades now... All to cover his own ass so his ridiculous health care bill would seem to cost a lot less than it actually will."

And comically, when Republicans talk about Medicare reform they don't ever actually talk about doing it for purely selfish rear end covering reasons. It would be like if Bush took money out of Medicare so he could cover up the cost of the Iraq war. I'm just trying to imagine the liberal raging fit if he'd tried that.




Bush trying to cover any costs of the Iraq War would actually be a step in the right direction.
 
2012-08-13 04:18:03 PM

randomjsa: More like "Obama actually did do something that liberals have screamed Republicans would do for decades now... All to cover his own ass so his ridiculous health care bill would seem to cost a lot less than it actually will."

And comically, when Republicans talk about Medicare reform they don't ever actually talk about doing it for purely selfish rear end covering reasons. It would be like if Bush took money out of Medicare so he could cover up the cost of the Iraq war. I'm just trying to imagine the liberal raging fit if he'd tried that.


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2012-08-13 07:44:19 PM

randomjsa: More like "Obama actually did do something that liberals have screamed Republicans would do for decades now... All to cover his own ass so his ridiculous health care bill would seem to cost a lot less than it actually will."

And comically, when Republicans talk about Medicare reform they don't ever actually talk about doing it for purely selfish rear end covering reasons. It would be like if Bush took money out of Medicare so he could cover up the cost of the Iraq war. I'm just trying to imagine the liberal raging fit if he'd tried that.


Yeah, right. They just talk about it for money-covering reasons that will benefit them and their cronies. Totally not the same thing.

You've made your obligatory appearance, you can go back to your hole and nibble your foreskin.
 
2012-08-13 08:40:56 PM

Gyrfalcon: Yeah, right. They just talk about it for money-covering reasons that will benefit them and their cronies. Totally not the same thing.

You've made your obligatory appearance, you can go back to your hole and nibble your foreskin.


Was that suppose to be a witty insult? You might want to rise just slightly above the sorts of things kids playing FPS games on their consoles come up with next time.

But if throwing out government money to help cronies is a problem for you then I'm guessing you can hardly wait to vote against Obama in every single solitary way possible. His entire 'economic' strategy has been to find ways to give tax payer money to his friends and supporters. Perhaps you heard of Solyndra? No? You should probably pay more attention. That's just one example.
 
2012-08-14 06:44:14 AM
Actually, it's Obama that's cutting Medicare:

Link
 
2012-08-14 08:51:31 AM
Must be getting close to election time,
tony/the_gospel_of_thomas/McCain Democrat/Afternoon Delight/SkinnyHead is back.

way to post a link to the exact topic that everyone has already discussed and disproved, though. You're really on your game.
 
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