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2012-08-13 12:55:17 AM
Isn't it more that he just bald-faced lied about it, and then lamely defended himself?
 
2012-08-13 05:57:15 AM

Confabulat: Isn't it more that he just bald-faced lied about it, and then lamely defended himself?


Lane Kiffin is a douche of epic proportions.
 
2012-08-13 08:27:06 AM
How dare he not vote for a SEC team!
 
2012-08-13 09:37:05 AM
"I won't vote for us because RichRod is a douche. I mean, I won't vote for us again. You guys are lame for pointing out I already did when I thought I could keep it a secret. I'm taking my ball and going home"
 
2012-08-13 09:37:43 AM
FTFA

"However, when a voter volunteers false or misleading information about his vote in public, then USA TODAY Sports, in its oversight role as administrator of the poll, will set the record straight to protect the poll's integrity"



I thought they were going to correct misleading information??? I think they just divided by 0!!!
 
2012-08-13 09:38:32 AM
I haven't seen a thread for the rankings yet so...
How is Michigan so high? And higher than MSU i might add. MSU did lose Cousins but still... Notre Dame is ranked? Color me shocked.

FSU, Texas, and Florida all look a little high.
 
2012-08-13 09:41:30 AM
Still waiting for him to sing Rocky Top all night long after beating Florida.
 
2012-08-13 09:43:08 AM
Who other than USC is a likely preseason #1? Alabama, maybe?
 
2012-08-13 09:43:53 AM

thecpt: I haven't seen a thread for the rankings yet so...
How is Michigan so high? And higher than MSU i might add. MSU did lose Cousins but still... Notre Dame is ranked? Color me shocked.

FSU, Texas, and Florida all look a little high.


I don't know that Okla is a top five this year either, they keep losing starting offensive linemen in practice, so.......
 
2012-08-13 09:45:19 AM
Should've gone with the far more sensible "I said 'I wouldn't vote USC No. 1 if I were coaching Arizona.'"

Number of people who care who votes for who in a preseason poll: Zero. Was it really that hard for you to find sports stories the last couple weeks, USA Today?
 
2012-08-13 09:47:19 AM

thecpt: How is Michigan so high?


So everyone can call them a "disappointment" and laugh when they get stomped by Alabama, duh.

We lost our center, nose tackle and 3-tech. I don't care how many starters are returning; that's gonna result in a drop-off. Even after all these years, football is still won and lost at the line.

Most people who don't have an agenda or learning disability predict Michigan will finish about 8-4 this year. Top 25, sure, but at about #20 or so.
 
2012-08-13 09:48:17 AM
Just another SOB who was born on third base and is convinced that he hit a triple.
 
2012-08-13 09:52:30 AM

basemetal: thecpt: I haven't seen a thread for the rankings yet so...
How is Michigan so high? And higher than MSU i might add. MSU did lose Cousins but still... Notre Dame is ranked? Color me shocked.

FSU, Texas, and Florida all look a little high.

I don't know that Okla is a top five this year either, they keep losing starting offensive linemen in practice, so.......


Michigan versus MSU:

Michigan finished last season with a slightly better record than MSU and was ahead in one poll by a spot, behind in another by one spot. MSU lost a very good quarterback, Michigan returned a senior quarterback who many think is the best all-around football player in the country. MSU's going to slip a bit in the preseason rankings because of that. Michigan's basically the same team they were last year so they're going to stick right around where they finished last year.
 
2012-08-13 09:52:55 AM
A college football coach is a lying douchebag? When did this start?
 
2012-08-13 09:53:42 AM
Boise State gets no respect.
 
2012-08-13 09:55:50 AM

dragonchild: thecpt: How is Michigan so high?

So everyone can call them a "disappointment" and laugh when they get stomped by Alabama, duh.

We lost our center, nose tackle and 3-tech. I don't care how many starters are returning; that's gonna result in a drop-off. Even after all these years, football is still won and lost at the line.

Most people who don't have an agenda or learning disability predict Michigan will finish about 8-4 this year. Top 25, sure, but at about #20 or so.


Anyone who thinks that Michigan is going to finish the season at 8-4 has too little of an understanding of how college football works to have a legitimate opinion.
 
2012-08-13 10:02:19 AM

meanmutton: Anyone who thinks that Michigan is going to finish the season at 8-4


I think 9-3 is a real possibility.
 
2012-08-13 10:05:15 AM
If I could "Meh" harder about this, I would...
 
2012-08-13 10:05:49 AM

The Muthaship: meanmutton: Anyone who thinks that Michigan is going to finish the season at 8-4

I think 9-3 is a real possibility.


No, it's not.

What was their record last season?
 
2012-08-13 10:07:01 AM

meanmutton: The Muthaship: meanmutton: Anyone who thinks that Michigan is going to finish the season at 8-4

I think 9-3 is a real possibility.

No, it's not.

What was their record last season?


In case I'm being unclear, Michigan is playing either 13 or 14 games this year barring a complete, Rich Rodriguez style catastrophe.
 
2012-08-13 10:07:38 AM

meanmutton: No, it's not.

What was their record last season?


11-2?

For clarity, I didn't include their likely bow appearance in my prediction. So 9-4 or 10-3 depending on how that goes.
 
2012-08-13 10:11:54 AM
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That is all.......
 
2012-08-13 10:15:51 AM
Oh please let USC go undefeated.
 
2012-08-13 10:22:55 AM

meanmutton: In case I'm being unclear, Michigan is playing either 13 or 14 games this year barring a complete, Rich Rodriguez style catastrophe.


My original statement was because I just know that team has short comings and I didn't remember seeing a high level of pro talent. I did forget that they had that record though, all their games seemed like tough nail biters. I would like to see them run the table except for their game against MSU.
 
2012-08-13 10:25:13 AM
His father Monte was a bit of a football genius but he apparently could not exist in any other society as he was barely literate.

I'm not shocked Lane is all off.
 
2012-08-13 10:28:27 AM

meanmutton: meanmutton: The Muthaship: meanmutton: Anyone who thinks that Michigan is going to finish the season at 8-4

I think 9-3 is a real possibility.

No, it's not.

What was their record last season?

In case I'm being unclear, Michigan is playing either 13 or 14 games this year barring a complete, Rich Rodriguez style catastrophe.


Sat., Sep. 1 vs. Alabama - Loss (95% confidence)
Sat., Sep. 8 vs. Air Force - Win (95% confidence)
Sat., Sep. 15 vs. Massachusetts - Win (99% confidence)
Sat., Sep. 22 at Notre Dame - Win (55% confidence)
Sat., Oct. 6 at Purdue * - Win (60% confidence)
Sat., Oct. 13 vs. Illinois - Win (80% confidence)
Sat., Oct. 20 vs. Michigan State - Loss (65% confidence)
Sat., Oct. 27 at Nebraska - Loss (55% confidence)
Sat., Nov. 3 at Minnesota - Win (95% confidence)
Sat., Nov. 10 vs. Northwestern - Win (75% confidence)
Sat., Nov. 17 vs. Iowa - Win (75% confidence)
Sat., Nov. 24 at Ohio State - Loss (60% confidence)
Sat., Dec. 1 Big Ten Championship Game - Loss to Wisconsin (75% confidence)

I'm at least 75% confident that Michigan will win six games and lose one. I'm at least 60% confident that Michigan will win seven games and lose three. There are a few games in which Michigan is favored that are very shaky: away games at Purdue, Notre Dame, and Ohio State. I predict Michigan will go 2-1 in those games.

They'll almost certainly lose to Alabama (unless Alabama royally screws up), and Michigan State is going to have another great defense with a quarterback who is arguably more physically talented than Cousins (although Cousins was a very smart QB). Ohio State, I think, will have Michigan's number this year, too.

I think it's going to be Michigan State in the championship game again, but even if Michigan makes it in, I think Wisconsin (the presumed division champ, almost by default) will win anyway. Ignoring the championship game, I think Michigan will have an 8-4 season, with an upside chance at 10-2 (and a low chance at 7-5). Based on the draw they'll get with this record, they'll probably win their bowl game to finish 9-4.
 
2012-08-13 10:41:06 AM
Michigan State's schedule is laughable, the schedule gods have smiled on State by giving them many home games. Their only loss will be at Camp Randall, other than that cupcake city....

/Oh yes, I almost forgot, the wolverines WILL spank that ass as well!
//GO BLUE!
 
2012-08-13 10:54:24 AM

varmitydog: Just another SOB who was born on third base and is convinced that he hit a triple.


I've never heard that phrase before. I like it.

FTA: "I don't really buy things are confidential anymore," Kiffin said. Quoted for truth. I buy his defense that he did it so his players wouldn't hear otherwise. Of course, I don't follow college sports enough to doubt everything he says.
 
2012-08-13 10:54:31 AM

UNC_Samurai: Who other than USC is a likely preseason #1? Alabama, maybe?


Seriously. It's not like there is much competition, and USC seems to be the likely choice for the AP poll when it debuts.
 
2012-08-13 10:56:03 AM
I've said this before, but there's really no reason any coach with a halfway decent team shouldn't just vote his own team at #1 and drop his competitors down low.
 
2012-08-13 11:11:52 AM

Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: Michigan State's schedule is laughable, the schedule gods have smiled on State by giving them many home games. Their only loss will be at Camp Randall, other than that cupcake city....

/Oh yes, I almost forgot, the wolverines WILL spank that ass as well!
//GO BLUE!


I was about to ask if you're high, then saw you're a UM fan and that answered my question.
 
2012-08-13 11:26:31 AM

bangmaid: Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: Michigan State's schedule is laughable, the schedule gods have smiled on State by giving them many home games. Their only loss will be at Camp Randall, other than that cupcake city....

/Oh yes, I almost forgot, the wolverines WILL spank that ass as well!
//GO BLUE!

I was about to ask if you're high, then saw you're a UM fan and that answered my question.



8/31 BOISE STATE
9/8 at Central Michigan
9/15 NOTRE DAME
9/22 EASTERN MICHIGAN
9/29 OHIO STATE
10/6 at Indiana
10/13 IOWA
10/20 at Michigan
10/27 at Wisconsin
11/3 NEBRASKA
11/17 NORTHWESTERN
11/24 at Minnesota

Really? Looks awful tough....LOLzz

/State will most certainly choke away a couple of these games as usual.
 
2012-08-13 11:27:28 AM
Real scandal: There's a poll before a down has been played. How can you vote without any meaningful criteria?

/assuming "meaningful criteria" would have something to do with, like, football games
 
2012-08-13 11:31:30 AM

Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: 8/31 BOISE STATE
9/8 at Central Michigan
9/15 NOTRE DAME
9/22 EASTERN MICHIGAN
9/29 OHIO STATE
10/6 at Indiana
10/13 IOWA
10/20 at Michigan
10/27 at Wisconsin
11/3 NEBRASKA
11/17 NORTHWESTERN
11/24 at Minnesota


8/31 BOISE STATE - Win (75% confidence)
9/8 at Central Michigan - Win (95% confidence)
9/15 NOTRE DAME - Win (70% confidence)
9/22 EASTERN MICHIGAN - Win (99% confidence)
9/29 OHIO STATE - Win (55% confidence)
10/6 at Indiana - Win (95% confidence)
10/13 IOWA - Win (85% confidence)
10/20 at Michigan - Win (65% confidence)
10/27 at Wisconsin - Loss (Push)
11/3 NEBRASKA - Loss (Push)
11/17 NORTHWESTERN - Win (85% confidence)
11/24 at Minnesota - Win (95% confidence)

I think Michigan State has a real shot at 10-2, not including the championship game, with upside to 11-1 (they'll lose at least one) and a chance at 9-3. Their defense will be superb, and I think Maxwell will develop nicely as a QB and not be nearly as jittery as some people think. And I'm fairly confident they'll beat Michigan, especially if Michigan sustains injuries early in a tough first-half of their schedule.
 
2012-08-13 11:35:36 AM

thecpt: I haven't seen a thread for the rankings yet so...
How is Michigan so high? And higher than MSU i might add. MSU did lose Cousins but still... Notre Dame is ranked? Color me shocked.

FSU, Texas, and Florida all look a little high.


My bigger question is how the fark is UGA so farking high? I dont know what they were smoking to rank them so high and this is coming from a UGA fan.........

I mean I hope they will be in the top 10 all year but I just dont think they will be that good since the O and D lines still seem pieced together.

And the biggest thing about this is how douchey the head douche is being about being outed yet again as a farking liar, even from the outside looking in I can clearly state Lane is a farking douche who didnt work for what he has, usually people are made because that guy wins but Lane is just a douche of majestic proportions.
 
2012-08-13 11:35:54 AM

El Uno Magnifico: 8/31 BOISE STATE - Win (75% confidence)


I know Boise had turnover at the most important position in CFB, and I don't know what the replacement is like, but 75% confidence against a team that simply doesn't lose to teams like MSU is pretty high.
 
2012-08-13 11:42:33 AM

steamingpile: And the biggest thing about this is how douchey the head douche is being about being outed yet again as a farking liar, even from the outside looking in I can clearly state Lane is a farking douche who didnt work for what he has, usually people are made because that guy wins but Lane is just a douche of majestic proportions.


Wow, I should really preview.

bhcompy: El Uno Magnifico: 8/31 BOISE STATE - Win (75% confidence)

I know Boise had turnover at the most important position in CFB, and I don't know what the replacement is like, but 75% confidence against a team that simply doesn't lose to teams like MSU is pretty high.


Boise lost their decent player, the one, as I predicted would go undrafted even with all the BSU apologists saying I was crazy and he would go easily in the first few rounds..........

Boise could be really bad this year since none of their backups saw playing time.
 
2012-08-13 11:46:29 AM

steamingpile: steamingpile: And the biggest thing about this is how douchey the head douche is being about being outed yet again as a farking liar, even from the outside looking in I can clearly state Lane is a farking douche who didnt work for what he has, usually people are made because that guy wins but Lane is just a douche of majestic proportions.

Wow, I should really preview.

bhcompy: El Uno Magnifico: 8/31 BOISE STATE - Win (75% confidence)

I know Boise had turnover at the most important position in CFB, and I don't know what the replacement is like, but 75% confidence against a team that simply doesn't lose to teams like MSU is pretty high.

Boise lost their decent player, the one, as I predicted would go undrafted even with all the BSU apologists saying I was crazy and he would go easily in the first few rounds..........

Boise could be really bad this year since none of their backups saw playing time.


Dude, all of the backups on d saw playing time and were behind NFL bound players. The qb situation is not a bad deal either considering that Kellen Moore rarely had to play the second half. BSU will be better than you think.
 
2012-08-13 11:48:20 AM

steamingpile: Boise lost their decent player, the one, as I predicted would go undrafted even with all the BSU apologists saying I was crazy and he would go easily in the first few rounds..........


Which is to say Tim Tebow should have been undrafted, if you want to use your criteria.
 
2012-08-13 11:48:34 AM

bhcompy: El Uno Magnifico: 8/31 BOISE STATE - Win (75% confidence)

I know Boise had turnover at the most important position in CFB, and I don't know what the replacement is like, but 75% confidence against a team that simply doesn't lose to teams like MSU is pretty high.


Boise State's team has been as successful as it has been largely due to its ability at the skill positions. QB is more important to Boise than most college teams (Alabama, for example, can get by without a great college QB; Boise can't), and Moore's replacement, Southwick, is too inexperienced. It's not even a sure thing that he'll be the starter, either. Boise lost all but two starters on defense and their star runningback, plus some depth at WR.

MSU, by contrast, has an inexperienced QB but has a much better defense - one that is probably going to end the year as a top-5 defense. Their DL and OL are probably better (well, the DL is definitely better) than their counterparts at Boise. I look to the strength of a team's D, its experience in the skill positions, and the strength/depth on the lines, and MSU has the advantage in two of the three. MSU's Bell is the better RB; Boise has better WRs; and the QB battle is a push.

I think 75% is a good percentage. With a strong, experienced, and capable QB and a more-experienced defense, Boise has an even shot at winning; without those two, it will probably lose. (This being college football, anything can happen, but that's my best guess before it actually happens.)
 
2012-08-13 12:01:13 PM

wow just wow: Dude, all of the backups on d saw playing time and were behind NFL bound players. The qb situation is not a bad deal either considering that Kellen Moore rarely had to play the second half. BSU will be better than you think.


You do realize he played almost the entire game, every game, right? His backups, for the entire season, had passing attempts that were barely equal to Moore's average attempts per game, so you are wrong on that assumption, in fact the only game they had more than 5 attempts was the last game of the season. BSU could easily be really bad as in a .500 team this year.

bhcompy: Which is to say Tim Tebow should have been undrafted, if you want to use your criteria.


Tebow had size to his advantage, Moore is tiny with below average arm strength.

But I agree, if I were an NFL GM I would not have drafted Tebow as a QB, now as a TE or fullback sure but I would never let him be QB, his motion just sucks and I dont know if he can ever change it.
 
2012-08-13 12:15:38 PM

meanmutton: Michigan's basically the same team they were last year so they're going to stick right around where they finished last year.


Their schedule is much tougher and they've lost their best interior linemen on both sides of the ball. They're replacing their best nose tackle in many years with an infamously fat, lazy bust. That by itself could be mitigated if not for the fact that they're returning the same mediocre linebackers and secondary of last season. I mean, they're okay -- that's the definition of mediocre -- but that means they can handle the easy stuff and can't handle the tough stuff. On offense, much of Denard's production came from Hail Mary passes to an EXTREMELY underrated receiver that had equal chance of being a reception or a pick. Bear in mind Denard threw a LOT of picks last season and that was with Junior Hemingway winning a lot of his jump balls. With Roy Roundtree inheriting Junior's thankless job and Denard still throwing off his back foot, those toss-ups will now become moar picks.

I have all the respect in the world for Hoke and his staff, but the situation at work here is that the pieces (DL, WR) that cloaked their weaknesses (QB, LB, DB) last season are all gone, and the weaknesses are still there. If Will Campbell and Denard Robinson grow up then all my predictions are out the window and I'll be immensely pleased, and to his credit Hoke says he's been spending a lot of time on them (probably because he's a smart guy and knows this is exactly his problem). But the only way Hoke can convince me he's broken through is on the field.

The team looks great heading into 2014, but everyone with a lick of credibility (read: not preseason polls) is predicting Michigan to fall back to Earth this season. On paper they could lose as many as 7 games, but given how well he did with last year's roster, everyone's willing to believe Hoke could pull through in half those games.
 
2012-08-13 12:26:54 PM
The coaches poll is corrupt as hell. Just ask Mack Brown.
 
2012-08-13 12:31:53 PM
I will be rooting for Michigan this year. Against Penn State. Other than that its hard to notice them amongst the rest of the has-been fleas of college football. The once proud Notre Dames and Michigans and Miamis all hoping for any sort of bowl game and often dont get even that. They ought to start a second tier league of theirr own own. Used To Be football league.
 
2012-08-13 12:33:58 PM

steamingpile: Boise could be really bad this year since none of their backups saw playing time.


Want to know how I know that you didn't watch many Boise State games?
 
2012-08-13 12:34:30 PM
IAmRight [TotalFark]


Number of people who care who votes for who in a preseason poll: Zero. Was it really that hard for you to find sports stories the last couple weeks, USA Today?

It definitely matters since it factors into the BCS. A team ranked in the top 5 doesn't need to do as much as a team unranked or ranked in the high teens - low 20's to move into the top slot (s).
 
2012-08-13 12:43:00 PM

mikaloyd: I will be rooting for Michigan this year. Against Penn State


They don't play each ther this year, unless those were meant to be disjointed statements. And the yearly MSU - PSU game doesn't exist anymore which gives me many sads.

I don't like the new B1G that much. Do we really have to keep OSU and Purdue?
 
2012-08-13 12:46:42 PM

steamingpile: His backups, for the entire season, had passing attempts that were barely equal to Moore's average attempts per game,


That is what happens when you are ahead by 40. You put in the backup and run the ball. Or at least that is what Boise does. Southwick/Henricks saw significant playing time in about 6 to 7 games. They just did not pass the ball all that much.
 
2012-08-13 12:55:54 PM

HeadLever: steamingpile: His backups, for the entire season, had passing attempts that were barely equal to Moore's average attempts per game,

That is what happens when you are ahead by 40. You put in the backup and run the ball. Or at least that is what Boise does. Southwick/Henricks saw significant playing time in about 6 to 7 games. They just did not pass the ball all that much.


Unfortunately, that matters. If MSU were the 10th game of the season instead of the first, it'd be one thing.
 
2012-08-13 01:06:18 PM

El Uno Magnifico: Unfortunately, that matters. If MSU were the 10th game of the season instead of the first, it'd be one thing.


I somewhat agree. There is no doubt that this first game will be a challenge for Boise and they should be considered the underdog. However, I don't think that anyone would, at the same time, count them out. Not with Petersen as Head Coach. They do still have some talent, however, much of it is untested.

Biggest question for me right now is how is the D-line and linebackers going to perform. This one has me a little worried, much more than any offensive question marks.
 
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