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(WBIR Knoxville)   Parents are outraged that their high school snowflakes were given a reading assignment that included profanity. "We want our kids to be civilized citizens and be upcoming members of community, and this does not serve that purpose"   (wbir.com) divider line 181
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2012-08-12 11:21:44 PM
I went to one of the most highly regarded private day schools and we were taught proper usage of expletives in english class.

Also, the reason I know what pugnacious means has to do with breasts.

And, IIRC, page 117 in Diary of Anne Frank had to do with masturbation.
 
2012-08-12 11:25:59 PM

Mangoose: And, IIRC, page 117 in Diary of Anne Frank had to do with masturbation.


This explains why every copy of that book I come across is always heavily dogeared and sticky.
 
2012-08-12 11:27:52 PM
Foul language can be integral to character development. These people don't appreciate good literature.
 
2012-08-12 11:36:37 PM
Oh, FFS.

Our High School English teacher was a complete stick (besides the pot smoking), but he had us read all the way through Catch-22 aloud, in class, taking individual turns to read parts, over the course of about a month. Then we watched the movie in class.

Words are just words.
 
2012-08-12 11:40:09 PM
I thought the term "snowflakes" was reserved for those dirty liberal parents.

I guess it's just used as a pejorative whenever it suits the narrative?
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2012-08-12 11:42:36 PM

downpaymentblues: I thought the term "snowflakes" was reserved for those dirty liberal parents.

I guess it's just used as a pejorative whenever it suits the narrative?


No, it also applies to religious conservative parents who are upset when God isn't mentioned every 10 minutes in school.
 
2012-08-12 11:44:36 PM
"I swear to God and all his cronies, darling, I'll f*cking kill you."


Is that too long to be a Fark handle?
 
2012-08-12 11:45:36 PM
One parent was upset that she didn't get to decide whether or not her son had to read the book. That turned into "Parents are outraged".

Fark at it's finest...
 
2012-08-12 11:48:09 PM

MBK: downpaymentblues: I thought the term "snowflakes" was reserved for those dirty liberal parents.

I guess it's just used as a pejorative whenever it suits the narrative?

No, it also applies to religious conservative parents who are upset when God isn't mentioned every 10 minutes in school.


And (apparently) when one parent doesn't want their 14 year old to read a book full of swearing and violence. I didn't see any mention of religion in the story, so I guess it is an all-encompassing pejorative.
 
2012-08-12 11:57:11 PM
I'm amazed by people who can't remember their own childhood. This silly cow needs to realize that her snowflake already knows all the swear words he will read in that book.
 
2012-08-13 12:09:08 AM
blog.bobbylikesbeer.com
 
2012-08-13 12:09:16 AM

Shostie: Mangoose: And, IIRC, page 117 in Diary of Anne Frank had to do with masturbation.

This explains why every copy of that book I come across is always heavily dogeared and sticky.


Dogeared, maybe. Sticky, never. You finished on the cover.
 
2012-08-13 12:10:04 AM

Mangoose: Shostie: Mangoose: And, IIRC, page 117 in Diary of Anne Frank had to do with masturbation.

This explains why every copy of that book I come across is always heavily dogeared and sticky.

Dogeared? Maybe. Sticky? Never. You finished on the cover.


FTFM
 
2012-08-13 12:20:04 AM
TFA: The STEM page on the Knox County Schools website explains that students will continue reading, and discuss, the book in small groups throughout the fall.

"My child is being forced to read profanity. This is not something that kids are talking about. It's an assigned assignment," said Lee.


No, the kids are being forced to learn something outside of the little cave you've built around your kids. That's what education is all about. Now scat back into your cave and leave the little ones to learn that there are things outside your house that differ from your small-world view.

/OMG PROFANITY!
 
2012-08-13 12:28:47 AM
Hey parents. Guess what else has profanity?
The real world. GET OVER IT.
 
2012-08-13 12:30:13 AM
I plan on teaching my kid/s the swear word controversy. I'll tell them that I don't care if they say them around me, but if they say them around other people these other people might freak out for ABSOLUTELY no reason.

And either they'll grow up respectful of other people's insecurities, or they'll troll the hell out of the neighborhood parents. Who am I to decide what other people do with their lives?
 
2012-08-13 12:52:37 AM
"We want our kids to be civilized citizens and be upcoming members of community..."

You live in Tennessee. Too late.
 
2012-08-13 01:35:17 AM
...Life's a piece of shiat, when you look at it.....
 
2012-08-13 05:01:08 AM
The snowflake daddy in this video is a farking pussy.

/Of course, "farking" won't make it through the filter here, because we're all pussies that can't bear the word "fark".
 
2012-08-13 05:39:11 AM

snuff3r: TFA: The STEM page on the Knox County Schools website explains that students will continue reading, and discuss, the book in small groups throughout the fall.

"My child is being forced to read profanity. This is not something that kids are talking about. It's an assigned assignment," said Lee.

No, the kids are being forced to learn something outside of the little cave you've built around your kids. That's what education is all about. Now scat back into your cave and leave the little ones to learn that there are things outside your house that differ from your small-world view.

/OMG PROFANITY!


OMG an ASSIGNED ASSIGNMENT. Can assignments be unassigned?
The parents are full of sh*t. Their kids most likely say much worse on a daily basis. Perhaps they were horrified when they realized the little bastards couldn't actually read.
 
2012-08-13 05:39:31 AM

downpaymentblues: I thought the term "snowflakes" was reserved for those dirty liberal parents. I guess it's just used as a pejorative whenever it suits the narrative?


It refers to helicopter parents with outrage issues; it has nothing to do with their political or religious affiliation.
 
2012-08-13 05:41:22 AM
One sentence on page 79 reads, "I swear to God and all his cronies, darling I'll..." The sentence continues with the "f" word followed by "kill you."

Terrible. Just terrible. There should be a comma after "darling" if it's an aside which it is.
 
2012-08-13 05:42:51 AM
1) Kids don't lie.
B) Kids don't cuss.
 
2012-08-13 05:44:22 AM
When I was 14 or 15, we had to read The Catcher in the Rye, The Scarlet Letter, and a couple of Hemingway works. By that age I already knew (and had heard several times) George Carlin's take on "dirty" words, plus thanks to Monty Python's Flying Circus, I could curse in British.
 
2012-08-13 05:47:03 AM
'Robopocalypse'?

What happened to the good old days when school was all about forcing you to read crap you had absolutely no desire to read? ;)
 
Skr
2012-08-13 05:48:01 AM
Once they are used to ubiquity, they really don't have such a powerful negative connotation. I enjoy the using curses as well $10 words. Sometimes being flummoxed fits just as nicely as being mindfarked.
As long as the school doesn't make a big issue over the words and just treats them as other parts of the language I wouldn't have a problem as a parent.
To have the naughty words in a reading assignment is akin to the viewing of
Victorian Nudes nsfw. It is a form of art and should be viewed as-is as part of the context of the piece.
 
2012-08-13 05:50:13 AM

Skr: Once they are used to ubiquity, they really don't have such a powerful negative connotation. I enjoy the using curses as well $10 words. Sometimes being flummoxed fits just as nicely as being mindfarked.
As long as the school doesn't make a big issue over the words and just treats them as other parts of the language I wouldn't have a problem as a parent.
To have the naughty words in a reading assignment is akin to the viewing of
Victorian Nudes nsfw. It is a form of art and should be viewed as-is as part of the context of the piece.


Nice.
 
2012-08-13 05:55:29 AM
14-year-old? They've heard it already. You've heard them say it already. Probably to your face.

I'd rather they learn the literary value of such words in a classroom and as such, when (and when not) to use them - Which sounds a little more like an appropriate lesson for a "civilized citizen and ... upcoming member of community" than using the media to throw a hissy fit at the school board.
 
2012-08-13 05:55:40 AM
Oh fudge and for Pete's sake, what the heck where they thinking?

// spoken in the voice of Mitt Romney
 
2012-08-13 05:59:33 AM
Meh... Heard it all before:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-08-13 05:59:46 AM
If Tennessee schools don't teach the expletive vernacular, how do you parents expect your snowflakes to know what to say about welfare, food stamps & black people... behind their backs. Yeah, that's what I thought.
 
2012-08-13 05:59:57 AM
Showering your kids in ignorance is how our country is dying. If you love your kids, treat them with respect. Treat them like young adults.

/Hates children
//Hates parents more
///Was a sheltered cripple until he did a year in jail and learned what the real world was.
 
2012-08-13 06:05:22 AM
i forget how to outrage

your kids suck!

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2012-08-13 06:08:12 AM

pnkgtr: 1) Kids don't lie.
B) Kids don't cuss.


I'm also told they don't date or have sex. The kid in TFA is 14, and chances are he'll either be getting laid or thinking about it in the next year - two at most. And at 14, you better believe there's a crusty sock somewhere in that house. Everyone in this thread remembers being 14.

And WTF is with TFA headline? Hardin Valley STEM reading assignment stirs up controversy. Since when is some dad being pissy a controversy? I guarantee a quick glance through his computer will reveal webcam images of him wearing panties. Just run with that and leave these stupid helicopter parent stories on the floor. When you keep saying "controversy" it loses its meaning. Much like "wolf."
 
2012-08-13 06:09:08 AM
Wait until they find out what is in the Bible, they think are mad now?
 
2012-08-13 06:11:44 AM
I think you mean "up-chucking."
 
2012-08-13 06:12:07 AM
I'll save Dr. Alves (whom I know slightly) a bit of time and trouble... especially since at the end of all this she will do nothing whatsoever to resolve the situation other reccommending the STEM program assign a different book next year.

It's hard to get teenagers to read. It's harder to get them to read over the summertime. So they just tried to assign the students something they might want to read. It's a science and technology curriculum (and a pretty imressive one, too... regular field trips to Oak Ridge National Laborotory being the norm), and such schools have had better luck having the students read science fiction than anything else. The probably should have checked it for language, but if the language in this book is the worst thing this father can complain about regarding his kid's schooling there, I'd say they're doing a pretty good job.

Otherwise, pull your brat out of the there and send 'em to Webb.

And please shut up in either case.
 
2012-08-13 06:12:34 AM
"...Sam Lee, the parent of a 14 year-old incomming freshmam..."

You know who else isn't a civilized citizen and being an upcoming member of that community?
 
mhd
2012-08-13 06:20:07 AM
For someone who's complaining about proprietry, this cornflake creator really should shave and dress a bit better before going on a TV interview. Way to set an example.
 
2012-08-13 06:22:35 AM

cretinbob: ...Life's a piece of shiat, when you look at it.....


Came to say this. Leaving satisfied.
 
2012-08-13 06:24:33 AM

downpaymentblues: One parent was upset that she didn't get to decide whether or not her son had to read the book. That turned into "Parents are outraged".

Fark at it's finest...


Well, he apparently contacted the local paper about it, that's quite a bit of outrage there, albeit not really a controversy as such.

I do like the school's response to the newspaper and the complaint, though. "Yeah, we understand that a certain set of thin-skinned people will be upset, that's why there are other options on the reading list. If you care enough to whine, but don't care enough to actually look over the books before buying them for your kid, it's pretty much your own fault."

And said in a subtle enough way that the parent probably doesn't even realize he's being called incompetent to his face, nice.
 
2012-08-13 06:26:21 AM
I was a die-hard science fiction geek when I was a kid, still am for the most part. When i was in 10th grade, my English teacher handed me a copy of Dhalgren by Samuel Delaney to read over the Christmas vacation, and he wanted a book report/review of it when I came back in January.

I couldn't put it down. Tore through it in about a week. Then I read it again. Wrote up a two page review on it, gushing about the story and how it was written and the story itself. Got meself an "A" out of that. I'll go back to it every other year or so. Fantastic book if you don't mind Delaney's rather disjointed style. It had a rather generous distribution of all the words that piss Christians off.

It is still one of my all-time favorites.
 
2012-08-13 06:30:30 AM
Clear the fainting couch! Young adults are learning to read the words they learned to speak from their peers on the first day of kindergarden.
 
2012-08-13 06:36:27 AM
Good. The stupider you make your children, the easier it will be for my children to subjugate your little idiots. Go ahead and teach your kids bible study, creationism... ban all the books you want. I'll be making sure my child gets a quality education, both at school and at home. So one day your little shiat will be shining my children's shoes, offering him fries with that, digging his ditches. Thanks for helping to maintain the status quo.
 
2012-08-13 06:37:59 AM
I went to one of the most highly regarded private day schools and we were taught proper usage of expletives in english class.

Also, the reason I know what pugnacious means has to do with breasts.

That school you went to must have been run by larry flint if you think pugnacious has anything to do with breasts
 
2012-08-13 06:38:03 AM

Warmachine999: cretinbob: ...Life's a piece of shiat, when you look at it.....

Came to say this. Leaving satisfied.


I was so glad to see the the lyrics didn't get changed during the closing ceremonies, even though it got bleeped in the U.S.
Some day people will get over it.
 
2012-08-13 06:39:06 AM
My 12th grade English teacher was awesome. He convinced us to read The Canterbury Tales in Middle English. It was nightmarish at first, but within a couple dozen pages we'd gotten the hang of it. Before we knew it we were flying through the book.

Then we got to the part about the chickens.

Suffice to say, they don't censor books published in Middle English.

My 12th grade English teacher was awesome.

/ RIP good man
 
2012-08-13 06:44:39 AM

Unobtanium: When I was 14 or 15, we had to read The Catcher in the Rye, The Scarlet Letter, and a couple of Hemingway works. By that age I already knew (and had heard several times) George Carlin's take on "dirty" words, plus thanks to Monty Python's Flying Circus, I could curse in British.


Same here. When I read the article, I checked the date to make sure it wasn't 1975.
 
2012-08-13 06:46:59 AM

snuff3r: TFA: The STEM page on the Knox County Schools website explains that students will continue reading, and discuss, the book in small groups throughout the fall.

"My child is being forced to read profanity. This is not something that kids are talking about. It's an assigned assignment," said Lee.

No, the kids are being forced to learn something outside of the little cave you've built around your kids. That's what education is all about. Now scat back into your cave and leave the little ones to learn that there are things outside your house that differ from your small-world view.

/OMG PROFANITY!


In all fairness, we are talking about one of the words that your federal govt has decided is too foul for adults to hear on broadcast tv.
 
2012-08-13 06:47:51 AM
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