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2012-08-12 05:08:58 PM
vogeltalksrving.com
 
2012-08-12 05:10:01 PM

basemetal:


That's it. Close the thread. Nothing further to see here.
 
2012-08-12 05:10:39 PM
How much did he make in overtime when he wasn't doing what he was supposedly doing? He needs to pay that back as well.
 
2012-08-12 05:11:50 PM
I love living in a state that doesn't allow speed or red light cameras.
 
2012-08-12 05:13:49 PM
So, if it costs them $17500 to pay someone to maintain them, and they only generate $17150 in fines...why are they using them in the first place? Don't give me that 'revenue generator' garbage because clearly they are losing money on these things. There has to be some other reason they'd install devices that catch people driving at dangerous speeds, I just can't put my finger on it though.
 
2012-08-12 05:14:27 PM
I don't like the sound of photo radar camera.
 
2012-08-12 05:14:36 PM

BizarreMan: How much did he make in overtime when he wasn't doing what he was supposedly doing? He needs to pay that back as well.


$17,056. Know how I know you didn't read the article?
 
2012-08-12 05:15:14 PM
HMTMS = Headline makes too much sense.
 
2012-08-12 05:15:53 PM
Wait, so he has to reimburse the city for reimbursing money which it had no right to in the first place? Does the court understand how restitution works?
 
2012-08-12 05:16:04 PM
Leaving feeling somewhat satisfied.
 
2012-08-12 05:17:17 PM

BumpInTheNight: So, if it costs them $17500 to pay someone to maintain them, and they only generate $17150 in fines...why are they using them in the first place? Don't give me that 'revenue generator' garbage because clearly they are losing money on these things. There has to be some other reason they'd install devices that catch people driving at dangerous speeds, I just can't put my finger on it though.


Because people are speeding.

Look, I know that paranoid conspiracy theories are the order of the day; but what probably happened is the proponent of the speed cam sold the city on HOW MUCH MONEY!! they'd make off them, and the city council bought it without any proof, (dollar signs obscuring their vision), and now it's been conclusively proven wrong. End of story.
 
2012-08-12 05:18:55 PM
BUSTED

By the chief of the metro police


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2012-08-12 05:19:56 PM
Good.
 
2012-08-12 05:21:15 PM
And this, now and forever, is proof that speeding tickets are revenue-based and not safety-based.
 
2012-08-12 05:21:58 PM

BumpInTheNight: So, if it costs them $17500 to pay someone to maintain them, and they only generate $17150 in fines...why are they using them in the first place? Don't give me that 'revenue generator' garbage because clearly they are losing money on these things. There has to be some other reason they'd install devices that catch people driving at dangerous speeds, I just can't put my finger on it though.


only 33 hours of tickets had to be refunded, or 222 tickets for $17150. those are the hours when he did not properly calibrate. that radar camera catches 6.7 speeders and hour and results in fines of $519.70 an hour.
that police officer does not make close to $519.70 an hour.
he might have agreed to give up every extra buck he made in a year watching that machine. the article isn't clear.
 
2012-08-12 05:22:29 PM
Another crooked cop, yawn anything new??

God is great, beer is good and white people are crazy!!
 
2012-08-12 05:22:30 PM
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2012-08-12 05:24:24 PM

Gyrfalcon: BumpInTheNight: So, if it costs them $17500 to pay someone to maintain them, and they only generate $17150 in fines...why are they using them in the first place? Don't give me that 'revenue generator' garbage because clearly they are losing money on these things. There has to be some other reason they'd install devices that catch people driving at dangerous speeds, I just can't put my finger on it though.

Because people are speeding.

Look, I know that paranoid conspiracy theories are the order of the day; but what probably happened is the proponent of the speed cam sold the city on HOW MUCH MONEY!! they'd make off them, and the city council bought it without any proof, (dollar signs obscuring their vision), and now it's been conclusively proven wrong. End of story.


Or they could just hire someone to check them instead of having to pay someone time and a half. Then they'd make a decent profit. But dont let that stop your retarded ranting
 
2012-08-12 05:27:54 PM
I'm shocked. That they didn't just cover this up.
 
2012-08-12 05:29:12 PM

JonPace: Gyrfalcon: BumpInTheNight: So, if it costs them $17500 to pay someone to maintain them, and they only generate $17150 in fines...why are they using them in the first place? Don't give me that 'revenue generator' garbage because clearly they are losing money on these things. There has to be some other reason they'd install devices that catch people driving at dangerous speeds, I just can't put my finger on it though.

Because people are speeding.

Look, I know that paranoid conspiracy theories are the order of the day; but what probably happened is the proponent of the speed cam sold the city on HOW MUCH MONEY!! they'd make off them, and the city council bought it without any proof, (dollar signs obscuring their vision), and now it's been conclusively proven wrong. End of story.

Or they could just hire someone to check them instead of having to pay someone time and a half. Then they'd make a decent profit. But dont let that stop your retarded ranting


Maybe even someone who wasn't a 22-year veteran, with a 22-year veteran base salary even before running up all that OT. Not to mention the additional pension payments that come because their pension is based on their last three years' actual compensation, not their base salary.
 
2012-08-12 05:33:00 PM

BumpInTheNight: So, if it costs them $17500 to pay someone to maintain them, and they only generate $17150 in fines...why are they using them in the first place? Don't give me that 'revenue generator' garbage because clearly they are losing money on these things. There has to be some other reason they'd install devices that catch people driving at dangerous speeds, I just can't put my finger on it though.


What makes you think that the speeds are dangerous?
 
2012-08-12 05:35:48 PM

relcec: I don't like the sound of photo radar camera.


Yes, it is rather pleonasty.
 
2012-08-12 05:36:36 PM
I'm really glad that with each passing day we aren't giving unlimited authority to law enforcement.
 
2012-08-12 05:40:12 PM

Gyrfalcon: BumpInTheNight: So, if it costs them $17500 to pay someone to maintain them, and they only generate $17150 in fines...why are they using them in the first place? Don't give me that 'revenue generator' garbage because clearly they are losing money on these things. There has to be some other reason they'd install devices that catch people driving at dangerous speeds, I just can't put my finger on it though.

Because people are speeding.

Look, I know that paranoid conspiracy theories are the order of the day; but what probably happened is the proponent of the speed cam sold the city on HOW MUCH MONEY!! they'd make off them, and the city council bought it without any proof, (dollar signs obscuring their vision), and now it's been conclusively proven wrong. End of story.


you are both insane if you think there would be any cops on traffic duty handing out tickets if they could only break even on it or, god forbid, lost money.
if the city, county, whatever, could only fine people say $20 a ticket, there would have to be significant fatalities at a specific location for you to ever see a cop set up a speed trap.
that is a fact.
they don't think it is important, it isn't important, and if it didn't help pay their salaries it wouldn't be done except for on extremely rare ocassions. you are reading the article wrong. the city got many many hours of pay recompensed, he only failed to do his job over 33 hours. dude does not make $520 an hour even with overtime.
 
2012-08-12 05:41:23 PM

Manfred J. Hattan: JonPace: Gyrfalcon: BumpInTheNight: So, if it costs them $17500 to pay someone to maintain them, and they only generate $17150 in fines...why are they using them in the first place? Don't give me that 'revenue generator' garbage because clearly they are losing money on these things. There has to be some other reason they'd install devices that catch people driving at dangerous speeds, I just can't put my finger on it though.

Because people are speeding.

Look, I know that paranoid conspiracy theories are the order of the day; but what probably happened is the proponent of the speed cam sold the city on HOW MUCH MONEY!! they'd make off them, and the city council bought it without any proof, (dollar signs obscuring their vision), and now it's been conclusively proven wrong. End of story.

Or they could just hire someone to check them instead of having to pay someone time and a half. Then they'd make a decent profit. But dont let that stop your retarded ranting

Maybe even someone who wasn't a 22-year veteran, with a 22-year veteran base salary even before running up all that OT. Not to mention the additional pension payments that come because their pension is based on their last three years' actual compensation, not their base salary.


But but but....they EARNED that pension.

/seen this done hundreds and hundreds of times.
 
2012-08-12 05:42:41 PM

BumpInTheNight: There has to be some other reason they'd install devices that catch people driving at dangerous speeds, I just can't put my finger on it though.


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I could go on and on about uneconomic activities politicians go after in order to increase revenues. The biggest screw ups tend to be stadiums and other venues, or having ticket writers work overtime to raise revenue. But these don't bring in enough revenues to cover their costs, so they have to find new ways to raise revenues, and so forth.
 
2012-08-12 05:44:11 PM
Good. now lets start all cops that break the law outside of internal affairs
 
2012-08-12 05:48:02 PM
FTA: "A former D.C. police officer admitted Thursday to falsifying logs" "resulted in the department having to refund more than $17,000 in traffic ticket fines". "Former Metropolitan Police Department Officer David Cephas' pleaded guilty to three counts of misdemeanor fraud in D.C. Superior Court".

I know it varies. But if I steal like over $200.00, doesn't a misdemeanor automatically turn into a felony? Shouldn't something like that apply here?
 
2012-08-12 05:49:05 PM
Rather like the red light cameras being installed, and then the yellow lights being shortened to only 1 or 2 seconds at those intersections by the City. Crooked as hell, but nobody cares except the poor slobs who get to pay the $140 fine. One intersection here, right next to a major freeway, adjoining the ramps to it, and literally on the busiest road in the State, had them installed and the City had the yellow lights sped up to less than one and a half seconds before the camera flash. That light generates about 140 or 150 tickets per day. It's a 40 mph road.

Just about every red light cycle it creates a ticket.
 
2012-08-12 05:50:46 PM

wildcardjack: I could go on and on about uneconomic activities politicians go after in order to increase revenues. The biggest screw ups tend to be stadiums and other venues, or having ticket writers work overtime to raise revenue. But these don't bring in enough revenues to cover their costs, so they have to find new ways to raise revenues, and so forth.


what is with you delusional aholes that think ticket writing isn't extremely profitable?
even if a cop makes $50 an hour (that's $102k in base salary a year - that's like NYC salary) at time an a half ($75 an hour) he just needs just five $90 tickets over a three hour shift to more than double the labor cost with revenue.
when you see the cop parked behind an embankment on the highway you travel every day do you really think he has a hard time finding one speeder to write a ticket to every 36 minutes?
the only reason they do this is because it makes big money. the only f*cking reason.
 
2012-08-12 05:52:16 PM

StingerJ: BizarreMan: How much did he make in overtime when he wasn't doing what he was supposedly doing? He needs to pay that back as well.

$17,056. Know how I know you didn't read the article?


Know?
 
2012-08-12 05:53:48 PM

Erebus1954: I'm shocked. That they didn't just cover this up.


/They would have, but Infernal affairs got hold of it, and from that point, it was "make this go away" time for the department. And i had to laugh as the chief said " i would like to thank IA for making this happen and blah blah blah, when you know he was really thinking "goddamit, if it wasn't for those kids and their meddling dog".
 
2012-08-12 05:56:08 PM
The scary thing is the city apparently thinks it's entitled yo this money, they just have to figure out who the can soak it out of. Dock the officer his pay for those days he wasn't working in compliance with regulation and any court costs from people who fought their tickets. Refund any fines driver paid to them. But for the city to think the drivers are just money moving around and the cop has to collect it is beyond ridiculous. If my oven breaks and I fix it instead of replacing it, should I still owe the sales tax that I deprived the city of?
 
2012-08-12 05:57:24 PM
The court should also reimburse the local government for the time used by police involved with the traffic cases, send letters to drivers concerned and to their insurance companies specifically stating the insured are innocent. And have all the costs taken from the lying officer. Let a cop be treated the same way a citizen would be if they stole $17 thousand from a city. Maybe that message would be driven home to the officers.
 
2012-08-12 06:07:39 PM
Cop shoots & kills black man - meh.

Cop costs city over $17,000 - something must be done!

Priorities man. Priorities.
 
2012-08-12 06:07:47 PM
Wonder if the officer ever had to testify in court that the radar gun was properly calibrated?

Isn't perjury pretty serious if that would be the case? Probably more serious then just faking a log by adjusting the time of the radar gun anyway.

/And then that DA following up on that would not receive much help either?
 
2012-08-12 06:17:51 PM
FTA: In 2008 and 2009, prosecutors said Mr. Cephas failed to take the once-an-hour shots on 33 occasions and covered up the mistakes by rolling back the clock on the radar unit in order to make it appear he had properly tested the machines.

It took this long to find out? This is why America and its cities are going broke! Stupid gubement!
 
2012-08-12 06:20:27 PM
According to court records, the 22-year department veteran was supposed to be monitoring photo-radar equipment during overtime shifts and taking test photographs once an hour with the cameras to ensure they were working properly. In 2008 and 2009, prosecutors said Mr. Cephas failed to take the once-an-hour shots on 33 occasions and covered up the mistakes by rolling back the clock on the radar unit in order to make it appear he had properly tested the machines.

Overtime shift? 10 to 1 he was either sleeping or working a second job. Overtime isn't for work, man.
 
2012-08-12 06:21:49 PM

DownDaRiver: FTA: "A former D.C. police officer admitted Thursday to falsifying logs" "resulted in the department having to refund more than $17,000 in traffic ticket fines". "Former Metropolitan Police Department Officer David Cephas' pleaded guilty to three counts of misdemeanor fraud in D.C. Superior Court".

I know it varies. But if I steal like over $200.00, doesn't a misdemeanor automatically turn into a felony? Shouldn't something like that apply here?


I was wondering that also...

Then again, I was also wondering if these were the kind of tickets that caused points against someone's license, and if those people refunded also got those points returned...
 
2012-08-12 06:27:46 PM

The Asshole Guy: I love living in a state that doesn't allow speed or red light cameras.


Cameras don't speed or run red lights, drivers do.
 
2012-08-12 06:32:14 PM

Arcturus72: DownDaRiver: FTA: "A former D.C. police officer admitted Thursday to falsifying logs" "resulted in the department having to refund more than $17,000 in traffic ticket fines". "Former Metropolitan Police Department Officer David Cephas' pleaded guilty to three counts of misdemeanor fraud in D.C. Superior Court".

I know it varies. But if I steal like over $200.00, doesn't a misdemeanor automatically turn into a felony? Shouldn't something like that apply here?

I was wondering that also...

Then again, I was also wondering if these were the kind of tickets that caused points against someone's license, and if those people refunded also got those points returned...


Camera tickets don't usually add to your points because they don't want to bother proving it was actually you driving the car. As for the insurance companies, however...
 
2012-08-12 06:37:58 PM
BAD COP! No donut...
 
2012-08-12 06:38:13 PM
How was it "lost revenue" if they were never going to get it using legit radar guns?
 
2012-08-12 06:40:24 PM
anything for a buck.
 
2012-08-12 06:56:39 PM

austin_millbarge: I'm really glad that with each passing day we aren't giving unlimited authority to law enforcement.


You liberals wanted this bigger government, I can't make decisions for myself personal responsibility horseshiat. Stew in it awhile next time a California stop nets you a $110 ticket.
 
2012-08-12 07:07:46 PM
Do your job right Moron.
 
2012-08-12 08:02:18 PM
I've meet a good number of police in my life, a few of them have been good guys, most were authoritarian dicks who were most certainly bullies in high school that never made it to college and just wanted to be in charge.

Police are important. They perform(in general) a very useful job in our communities, but bad laws and poor stewardship have put them at odds with the public they protect. They have become unwanted and unwelcome in almost any situation that isn't "omg we need the police here NOW!" I suggest a new focus on violent crime and theft. End the drug war and stop pretending that automation and invasive police action(speed and light camera, stop and frisk, dui checkpoints) are preventative measures that are appropriate because they aren't they are flawed and cause a large amount of public distrust and(although the court judges apparently disagree) are an invasion of rights.

Don't believe me? Ask your friends "Do you trust the police?" and let me know your results.
 
2012-08-12 08:06:01 PM

CreamFilling: The scary thing is the city apparently thinks it's entitled yo this money, they just have to figure out who the can soak it out of. Dock the officer his pay for those days he wasn't working in compliance with regulation and any court costs from people who fought their tickets. Refund any fines driver paid to them. But for the city to think the drivers are just money moving around and the cop has to collect it is beyond ridiculous. If my oven breaks and I fix it instead of replacing it, should I still owe the sales tax that I deprived the city of?


Don't go giving them any ideas.
 
2012-08-12 08:08:30 PM
UseLessHuman: Don't believe me? Ask your friends "Do you trust the police?" and let me know your results.

Even among people who "trust the police", we know that there are people who will either A)Take Advantage of the system for their own selfish ends, or B) Be Lazy or Incompetent.

I love cops. But I'm not nieve enough to ignore the past misbehavior of some people, and the fact that innocent people can and are hung out to dry.
 
2012-08-12 08:38:26 PM

Gyrfalcon: BumpInTheNight: So, if it costs them $17500 to pay someone to maintain them, and they only generate $17150 in fines...why are they using them in the first place? Don't give me that 'revenue generator' garbage because clearly they are losing money on these things. There has to be some other reason they'd install devices that catch people driving at dangerous speeds, I just can't put my finger on it though.

Because people are speeding.

Look, I know that paranoid conspiracy theories are the order of the day; but what probably happened is the proponent of the speed cam sold the city on HOW MUCH MONEY!! they'd make off them, and the city council bought it without any proof, (dollar signs obscuring their vision), and now it's been conclusively proven wrong. End of story.


OH NOES PEOPLE BE SPEEDING! Someone call the Disneyland Police!
 
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