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(FanNation)   If you thought Jerry Sandusky's conviction, Joe Paterno's death, and NCAA sanctions were the end of the Penn State scandal, you're wrong. It's about to get *much* uglier   (fannation.com) divider line 180
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2012-08-12 12:53:42 PM
I called this the instant I heard about the boy in the shower.
 
2012-08-12 12:56:10 PM
jaylectricity called this the instant he heard about the boy in the shower.
 
2012-08-12 12:59:35 PM
The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.
 
2012-08-12 01:04:56 PM
Good. Let them suffer.
 
2012-08-12 01:13:02 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Good. Let them suffer.


It wont be that bad. This is a rich, Ivy league conservative school. There's so much money backing this scandal, there are probably pay offs happening right now. Most of the facts will get buried by the powers that be.

This is America. We're in the middle of hating brown people and gays. Events like this just interfere with the program.
 
2012-08-12 01:17:04 PM
Did anyone think this was isolated? Seriously?

The University Administration was involved in the cover-up. It's not at all surprising to learn that boosters are also involved in the crimes. I'd be very unsurprised current employees of Penn State, past employees, coaches and any number of other folks associated with Penn State had to do with this.

Just like the Catholics - it's not only the rape, it's the aiding and abetting. It's the culture that accepts this and covers for the perpetrators.

Farking disgusting. And unfortunately, there are many, many entities that operate the same way. Churches, Universities, Foundations... any group that has opportunity and a financial reason to want to keep crimes hidden.
 
2012-08-12 01:18:03 PM

Godscrack: The My Little Pony Killer: Good. Let them suffer.

It wont be that bad. This is a rich, Ivy league conservative school. There's so much money backing this scandal, there are probably pay offs happening right now. Most of the facts will get buried by the powers that be.

This is America. We're in the middle of hating brown people and gays. Events like this just interfere with the program.


Yes, but you forget how torturous this has been for the people attending the school so far, and how vocal they've been about how "unfair" this all is to them.
 
2012-08-12 01:22:08 PM

Godscrack: The My Little Pony Killer: Good. Let them suffer.

It wont be that bad. This is a rich, Ivy league conservative school. There's so much money backing this scandal, there are probably pay offs happening right now. Most of the facts will get buried by the powers that be.

This is America. We're in the middle of hating brown people and gays. Events like this just interfere with the program.


Since when did Penn State become an Ivy?
 
2012-08-12 01:33:50 PM
The first three words in TFA headline made me hope that there actually was justice in the universe

/and then I realized that was a comma and not a period
 
2012-08-12 01:43:17 PM

Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.


Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.
 
2012-08-12 01:57:10 PM

GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.


This is you, in every single Penn State thread:

www.thegatewaypundit.com

/deleted? ha
//more like having your idiotic opinion shot down every time you spout off
 
2012-08-12 01:59:08 PM

GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.


Hmm, the English could be better on that.

Let me rephrase and elaborate. You are free to threaten, insult, demean and just generally abuse the entire institution for the actions of a select few who should be found and put on trial for their supposed crimes. However, if you should tell someone off, like telling off an Internet Tough Guy who said someone should shoot the fans that showed up to a practice to support the players, you will get deleted and banned. The post threatening violence will remain.

There is only one side allowed to these threads, and that is blaming the entire institution of Penn State for the actions of a few.
 
2012-08-12 02:01:44 PM

GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.


The school's administration covered up the rape of children. Not the students, not the Organic Chemistry TA, but the school. As in, the administration, higher-ups, powers-that-be. I don't believe I've seen anyone accuse the students of being in on anything, or contributing to anything, or helping cover anything up. That said, when an institution farks up, the institution takes the hit. If some of these whiny assfarks had a modicum of self-awareness, they'd realize they personally aren't being victimized by any of this. Suzie Q who is getting a degree in Political Science isn't affected by this one iota. Her degree, her scholarship if she has one, her collegiate life....none of it is being ruined by the NCAA telling her school YOU CAN'T COVER UP THE RAPE OF CHILDREN AND THINK YOU'LL GET AWAY WITH IT.
 
2012-08-12 02:02:11 PM

Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.


This isn't unfair to Penn State, however it is unfair for people to lay the entire weight of these crimes on PSU. Like has been said before, the Second Mile Charity was the source of the majority of these crimes. The reason this story started with the college and not the charity is because the charity's board members are very powerful GOP donors, and starting in 2009 the state GOP had plan to takeover the state house. The then AG, now PA Governor, refused to investigate these crimes with vigor. Instead he focused the entire DoJ on the Democratic State Caucus.
 
2012-08-12 02:02:48 PM

Coco LaFemme: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

The school's administration covered up the rape of children. Not the students, not the Organic Chemistry TA, but the school. As in, the administration, higher-ups, powers-that-be. I don't believe I've seen anyone accuse the students of being in on anything, or contributing to anything, or helping cover anything up. That said, when an institution farks up, the institution takes the hit. If some of these whiny assfarks had a modicum of self-awareness, they'd realize they personally aren't being victimized by any of this. Suzie Q who is getting a degree in Political Science isn't affected by this one iota. Her degree, her scholarship if she has one, her collegiate life....none of it is being ruined by the NCAA telling her school YOU CAN'T COVER UP THE RAPE OF CHILDREN AND THINK YOU'LL GET AWAY WITH IT.


That damn TA, personally covering up the crimes.
 
2012-08-12 02:04:14 PM

GAT_00: There is only one side allowed to these threads, and that is blaming the entire institution of Penn State for the actions of a few.


I have yet to see a single one of your posts get deleted. Cry harder.
 
2012-08-12 02:07:14 PM

GAT_00: That damn TA, personally covering up the crimes.


Way to be completely disingenuous about the topic, as usual.

/how exactly is "don't rape children and don't cover up the rape of children" such a disagreeable opinion to you?
//wait, don't answer that, you have me ignored anyway
 
2012-08-12 02:08:33 PM
If one could distill and harnish the faux outrage in this thread into a energy source America could stop using oil by 2020.
 
2012-08-12 02:08:57 PM
TheDumbBlonde: Since when did Penn State become an Ivy?

They might not technically be an Ivy, but farking the innocent with a little help from a few well placed friends and then acting self righteous about it when they get caught is about as Ivy league as you can get.
 
2012-08-12 02:10:59 PM

Coco LaFemme: or contributing to anything,


Well there was that riot when Paterno was fired. And a few students may have had a hand in hounding the first victim to come forward so bad he's in witness protection.
 
2012-08-12 02:11:06 PM

GAT_00: Coco LaFemme: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

The school's administration covered up the rape of children. Not the students, not the Organic Chemistry TA, but the school. As in, the administration, higher-ups, powers-that-be. I don't believe I've seen anyone accuse the students of being in on anything, or contributing to anything, or helping cover anything up. That said, when an institution farks up, the institution takes the hit. If some of these whiny assfarks had a modicum of self-awareness, they'd realize they personally aren't being victimized by any of this. Suzie Q who is getting a degree in Political Science isn't affected by this one iota. Her degree, her scholarship if she has one, her collegiate life....none of it is being ruined by the NCAA telling her school YOU CAN'T COVER UP THE RAPE OF CHILDREN AND THINK YOU'LL GET AWAY WITH IT.

That damn TA, personally covering up the crimes.


Did you even read what I said, or are you so jacked-up on your own self-importance that you didn't realize I WASN'T BLAMING TEACHERS OR STUDENTS FOR WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID? You literally responded to my post with the opposite of what I said. Either you didn't read it, or you have a standard, boiler-plate response to people who post in Penn State threads.
 
2012-08-12 02:11:26 PM

varmitydog: TheDumbBlonde: Since when did Penn State become an Ivy?

They might not technically be an Ivy, but farking the innocent with a little help from a few well placed friends and then acting self righteous about it when they get caught is about as Ivy league as you can get.


What the hell does that even mean? Are you saying people who went to Ivy League schools farked people over, because that's an entirely different thing than the school farking people over. Want to show me where Harvard had something like this happen to match your false equivalence?

It's not that I don't think the Ivy League is useless, but let's go with some realistic criticisms, shall we?
 
2012-08-12 02:12:19 PM
Oh no. I just want this shiat to end. Sick of it.

/but if there's a freaking pedophilia ring... there'a a pedophilia ring
//ugh. idontwanttoliveonthisplanetanymore.jpg
 
2012-08-12 02:12:29 PM

Coco LaFemme: GAT_00: Coco LaFemme: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

The school's administration covered up the rape of children. Not the students, not the Organic Chemistry TA, but the school. As in, the administration, higher-ups, powers-that-be. I don't believe I've seen anyone accuse the students of being in on anything, or contributing to anything, or helping cover anything up. That said, when an institution farks up, the institution takes the hit. If some of these whiny assfarks had a modicum of self-awareness, they'd realize they personally aren't being victimized by any of this. Suzie Q who is getting a degree in Political Science isn't affected by this one iota. Her degree, her scholarship if she has one, her collegiate life....none of it is being ruined by the NCAA telling her school YOU CAN'T COVER UP THE RAPE OF CHILDREN AND THINK YOU'LL GET AWAY WITH IT.

That damn TA, personally covering up the crimes.

Did you even read what I said, or are you so jacked-up on your own self-importance that you didn't realize I WASN'T BLAMING TEACHERS OR STUDENTS FOR WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID? You literally responded to my post with the opposite of what I said. Either you didn't read it, or you have a standard, boiler-plate response to people who post in Penn State threads.


You're screaming at me through the computer for not automatically agreeing with everything you think, and you think I'm going to do anything but make fun of you?
 
2012-08-12 02:12:40 PM

Coco LaFemme: Either you didn't read it, or you have a standard, boiler-plate response to people who post in Penn State threads.


It's the latter. It's as though he's not actually here to listen to what anybody has to say, he's already got his own idea of How Things Are that he absolutely refuses to let go of.
 
2012-08-12 02:14:05 PM

Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.


The football program needed the death penalty for a reason. The culture of "football first" needed to go away, badly. Now we have players and students acting like THEY are the victims in all of this.

Oh, but I guess it's ok, because the players are going to wear armbands, which totally makes everything better and in no way reinforces the idea that football is the lens through which to view all life.
 
2012-08-12 02:14:19 PM

GAT_00: Coco LaFemme: GAT_00: Coco LaFemme: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

The school's administration covered up the rape of children. Not the students, not the Organic Chemistry TA, but the school. As in, the administration, higher-ups, powers-that-be. I don't believe I've seen anyone accuse the students of being in on anything, or contributing to anything, or helping cover anything up. That said, when an institution farks up, the institution takes the hit. If some of these whiny assfarks had a modicum of self-awareness, they'd realize they personally aren't being victimized by any of this. Suzie Q who is getting a degree in Political Science isn't affected by this one iota. Her degree, her scholarship if she has one, her collegiate life....none of it is being ruined by the NCAA telling her school YOU CAN'T COVER UP THE RAPE OF CHILDREN AND THINK YOU'LL GET AWAY WITH IT.

That damn TA, personally covering up the crimes.

Did you even read what I said, or are you so jacked-up on your own self-importance that you didn't realize I WASN'T BLAMING TEACHERS OR STUDENTS FOR WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID? You literally responded to my post with the opposite of what I said. Either you didn't read it, or you have a standard, boiler-plate response to people who post in Penn State threads.

You're screaming at me through the computer for not automatically agreeing with everything you think, and you think I'm going to do anything but make fun of you?


Yup, don't even have an answer to that but you're going to act all high and mighty anyway. And change the subject, you know, because you don't have a real answer to that.
 
2012-08-12 02:14:49 PM
Hey FBI, welcome to the party. This story has been kicking around PA for a while. About a year ago, it was reported first by Sarah Ganim in the Harrisburg Patriot-News & then by Mark Madden in The Beaver County Times that Sandusky may have been acting as a pimp for big-time donors who happened to also like taking showers with little boys.
 
2012-08-12 02:15:40 PM

Godscrack: It wont be that bad. This is a rich, Ivy league conservative school. There's so much money backing this scandal, there are probably pay offs happening right now. Most of the facts will get buried by the powers that be.

This is America. We're in the middle of hating brown people and gays. Events like this just interfere with the program.


You know how I know you have no f*cking idea what you are talking about?
 
2012-08-12 02:16:26 PM
FBI Probing Sandusky

southparkclub.com

/ make your living leeching off the Penn State Football program = get a better business model
// students who attend the university do not need a football program to graduate
 
2012-08-12 02:16:37 PM
If I'm a Penn State student right now, I'm blasting The Victors out my window 24/7 out of spite.

/hate Meeeechigan, but at least they're a darn good school and they didn't diddle little boys
 
2012-08-12 02:17:11 PM

WTF Indeed: Godscrack: It wont be that bad. This is a rich, Ivy league conservative school. There's so much money backing this scandal, there are probably pay offs happening right now. Most of the facts will get buried by the powers that be.

This is America. We're in the middle of hating brown people and gays. Events like this just interfere with the program.

You know how I know you have no f*cking idea what you are talking about?


The Ivy League fits a traditional definition of conservative. They are very opposed to change and exist only to ensure their own survival.
 
2012-08-12 02:17:45 PM
Was this a surprise to anyone? When this first broke wasn't there reports that the feds were looking into his charity because it was believed that he was pimping out boys to wealthy donors? Also with what he was doing, it would take the efforts of a lot of people and money to keep it covered up.
 
2012-08-12 02:17:51 PM

Godscrack: The My Little Pony Killer: Good. Let them suffer.

This is a rich, Ivy league conservative school.


Let's see here: rich (it's a state school) Ivy League (if by ivy league you mean big ten) conservative (I'd bet somewhere north of 90% of the faculty voted for Obama and about the same for students) school (that's debatable). So if you don't count everything you said in that sentence then you are totally right. Good job!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-08-12 02:19:20 PM
I don't see much new here. There were unsubstantiated rumors about loaning boys to donors after the scandal broke. The new part is the investigation.
 
2012-08-12 02:20:08 PM
Also, you're being very silly right now, GAT_00.
 
2012-08-12 02:20:46 PM

basemetal: jaylectricity called this the instant he heard about the boy in the shower.


basemetal did the pointing out of jaylectricity doing the calling of this the instant upon which it was heard by him that the boy was singing in the shower.
 
2012-08-12 02:20:59 PM

drivingsouth: Hey FBI, welcome to the party. This story has been kicking around PA for a while. About a year ago, it was reported first by Sarah Ganim in the Harrisburg Patriot-News & then by Mark Madden in The Beaver County Times that Sandusky may have been acting as a pimp for big-time donors who happened to also like taking showers with little boys.


From what I understand, the FBI was waiting in the wings just in case the local courts dropped the ball on convicting Sandusky. They got it right, so now the feds can focus elsewhere.

It's not just about the ring of people doing it; it's also about the cover-up, led by Joe Paterno, in the interest of protecting business deals in addition to the football program.
 
2012-08-12 02:22:22 PM
Pedo State.
 
2012-08-12 02:22:46 PM
BTW the NCAA did reserve the right to amend their penalties against Penn State should further information come to light.
 
2012-08-12 02:22:57 PM
Turned the lights are on and we've only caught the slower roaches. The fast ones have run for cover in the cracks.
 
2012-08-12 02:23:58 PM
Ugh, just burn the place down. If I had Penn State on my resume I know I'd have it already.

It will take a generation for anyone to think of the Nittany Lions without thinking about the Tickle Monster. And that's just how it is going to be. No one can change that.
 
2012-08-12 02:24:06 PM

gameshowhost: Also, you're being very silly right now, GAT_00.


Welcome to Penn State threads.
 
2012-08-12 02:26:35 PM

WhyteRaven74: BTW the NCAA did reserve the right to amend their penalties against Penn State should further information come to light.


I can't believe they didn't kill the program for five years. I also can't believe Dottie Sandusky opened the Lash Building for football players and students to rally. There are a hell of a lot of people who should be doing just as much time as Jerry, and Dottie is at the top of that list.
 
2012-08-12 02:26:44 PM

GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.


You know why? Institutionalized child rape.

People don't like that.
 
2012-08-12 02:27:23 PM
It will come out that people were paying for the right to get close to vulnerable children. It might take awhile...but it WILL come out.

To me, this isn't about Penn State the school. So many times I have this conversation with people and they accuse me of being jealous of the success of Penn State football. Thing is, I don't watch college sports. I don't even know 10% of the college kids that get drafted into the NFL, much less 10% of any one college team.

Stuff like this just hits home for me. I was slightly molested as a very young child and I believe it changed my life forever. I'm not horribly ruined or anything, but my sex life is very frustrating even when I have several willing partners.
 
2012-08-12 02:27:59 PM

Confabulat: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

You know why? Institutionalized child rape.

People don't like that.


This.

/welcome to Gat's ignore list
 
2012-08-12 02:29:03 PM

jaylectricity: So many times I have this conversation with people and they accuse me of being jealous of the success of Penn State football.


These are the same people who are confused and upset that Penn State football is being punished for the actions of Penn State football and the cult around it. You can't talk to them like adults.
 
2012-08-12 02:29:41 PM
I wonder if these big time donors involved are famous such as Santorum, Palmer, or Marky Mark.
 
2012-08-12 02:29:59 PM
If the pedo ring reaches into people of real power, it will go the way of the Franklin Scandal and you won't hear anything. The Second Mile has already been quietly shut down without public exposure of its inner workings...
 
2012-08-12 02:30:21 PM
The sin of vanity is strong in this thread.
 
2012-08-12 02:30:51 PM

Orgasmatron138: WhyteRaven74: BTW the NCAA did reserve the right to amend their penalties against Penn State should further information come to light.

I can't believe they didn't kill the program for five years. I also can't believe Dottie Sandusky opened the Lash Building for football players and students to rally. There are a hell of a lot of people who should be doing just as much time as Jerry, and Dottie is at the top of that list.


Scratch that, it wasn't Dottie. She can still burn in hell, though.
 
2012-08-12 02:31:08 PM

jaylectricity: I called this the instant I heard about the boy in the shower.


who did you call and did you also hear rhythmic slap slap slapping sounds?
 
2012-08-12 02:32:54 PM

Outrageous Muff: The sin of vanity is strong in this thread.


What does this even mean? Do you think that sounds wise or something? You sound mildly retarded if so.
 
2012-08-12 02:33:14 PM

jaylectricity: I have this conversation with people and they accuse me of being jealous of the success of Penn State football.


Wait they do the accusation of you for being jealous of a team that has been at the very best the mediocre one for at least the past decade which is for those of you who are not familiar with this a period of ten years.
 
2012-08-12 02:33:17 PM

Confabulat: You know why? Institutionalized child rape.

People don't like that.


Careful now. A response like that will trigger some replies about calling us part of a "lynch mob" because we're nothing but mongoloids carrying pitchforks and blinded by anger. Clearly, we're all subhumans for not looking at institutionalized child rape with a nuanced flair as if it's something you should be able to discuss openly without rushing to judgement while twirling your moustache and sipping espresso with your friend Pierre as if topically, it carries the same weight as discussing your favorite impressionist painters or baroque composers.

I don't even know how to express my shame that I actually have an immediate strong, emotional response to child rape.
 
2012-08-12 02:33:52 PM

Triumph: If the pedo ring reaches into people of real power, it will go the way of the Franklin Scandal and you won't hear anything. The Second Mile has already been quietly shut down without public exposure of its inner workings...


Your tinfoil sales blog sucks.
 
2012-08-12 02:34:29 PM

GAT_00: Coco LaFemme: GAT_00: Coco LaFemme: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

The school's administration covered up the rape of children. Not the students, not the Organic Chemistry TA, but the school. As in, the administration, higher-ups, powers-that-be. I don't believe I've seen anyone accuse the students of being in on anything, or contributing to anything, or helping cover anything up. That said, when an institution farks up, the institution takes the hit. If some of these whiny assfarks had a modicum of self-awareness, they'd realize they personally aren't being victimized by any of this. Suzie Q who is getting a degree in Political Science isn't affected by this one iota. Her degree, her scholarship if she has one, her collegiate life....none of it is being ruined by the NCAA telling her school YOU CAN'T COVER UP THE RAPE OF CHILDREN AND THINK YOU'LL GET AWAY WITH IT.

That damn TA, personally covering up the crimes.

Did you even read what I said, or are you so jacked-up on your own self-importance that you didn't realize I WASN'T BLAMING TEACHERS OR STUDENTS FOR WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID? You literally responded to my post with the opposite of what I said. Either you didn't read it, or you have a standard, boiler-plate response to people who post in Penn State threads.

You're screaming at me through the computer for not automatically agreeing with everything you think, and you think I'm going to do anything but make fun of you?


Well for one, I'm not screaming AT you, I'm emphasizing key points you pathologically keep overlooking, like the fact that you're responding to what I say with the exact opposite of what I said....and that tends to irritate me. Two, look....I love my alma mater too, but if it hit the news tomorrow that the administration was responsible for covering up child rape on its premises, by people who worked for it.....I sure as fark wouldn't defend it. I'd be the first in line castigating it. Even the little old lady on my block who had a Penn State sticker on her mailbox took it off (her grandson goes there), so if the 88-year-old woman gets it, I think you're capable too.
 
2012-08-12 02:36:01 PM

Snail Jerky: jaylectricity: I called this the instant I heard about the boy in the shower.

who did you call and did you also hear rhythmic slap slap slapping sounds?


I called the girl with the dragon tattoo.

So you're freakin'... the furniture's squeakin'
She's tweakin' sayin' that she's weak in the knees
Cheek to cheek and pound for pound
You're taxin' it and waxin' it and workin' it around
'Til the booty starts makin' that clappin' sound
Which is cool but your friends are chillin' in the other room
The clappin's getting louder, you don't want them to clown you
In this situation, what do you do?
What?
A, you, plain and simply back up off her
B, you hit it just a little bit softer
C, you take it out and put it in her butt

Confabulat: jaylectricity: So many times I have this conversation with people and they accuse me of being jealous of the success of Penn State football.

These are the same people who are confused and upset that Penn State football is being punished for the actions of Penn State football and the cult around it. You can't talk to them like adults.


Hell, I didn't even know Penn State was a good team. I only mildly recall hearing the name Paterno on sports radio.
 
2012-08-12 02:36:09 PM

jaylectricity: called this the instant he heard about the boy in the shower.


meow said the dog: noted that basemetal did the pointing out of jaylectricity doing the calling of this the instant upon which it was heard by him that the boy was singing in the shower.


This all settles it. T'was foreseen and fortified foresight from the white wizards of the North.
 
2012-08-12 02:36:55 PM

meow said the dog: jaylectricity: I have this conversation with people and they accuse me of being jealous of the success of Penn State football.

Wait they do the accusation of you for being jealous of a team that has been at the very best the mediocre one for at least the past decade which is for those of you who are not familiar with this a period of ten years.


Exactly.
 
2012-08-12 02:36:58 PM
GAT_00: Want to show me where Harvard had something like this happen to match your false equivalence?


upload.wikimedia.org
corrupt and uppity about it, like Penn State

encrypted-tbn2.google.com
This place is actually worse than Penn State could ever hope to be. They teach all incoming Congressmen how to act.
Even the most honest souls are corrupted by their peculiar version of ethics.
 
2012-08-12 02:37:27 PM

Confabulat: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

You know why? Institutionalized child rape.

People don't like that.


Which I understand, but as I keep having to say, the university didn't rape anyone. One guy is known to have done it, and if this FBI thing goes anywhere, maybe a few more. And what's so hard about blaming the people who actually committed the crime?
 
2012-08-12 02:37:35 PM

Confabulat: What does this even mean? Do you think that sounds wise or something? You sound mildly retarded if so.


It is vanity to proclaim one's superiority on a matter that does not effect oneself.
 
2012-08-12 02:38:10 PM
If I had a sticker, Penn State or otherwise, on my mailbox I'd be in violation of my HOA covenants.
 
2012-08-12 02:41:19 PM
Ray Gricar
 
2012-08-12 02:45:40 PM

GAT_00: Confabulat: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

You know why? Institutionalized child rape.

People don't like that.

Which I understand, but as I keep having to say, the university didn't rape anyone. One guy is known to have done it, and if this FBI thing goes anywhere, maybe a few more. And what's so hard about blaming the people who actually committed the crime?


It doesn't matter to you that that is EXACTLY what we've been doing this entire time.

What is so difficult, in your mind, about wanting to cut down some of the power of the institution that made raping children for over 14 years so easy for this monster? Why is that so wrong?

/wait, don't answer that
//you're ignoring me
 
2012-08-12 02:45:56 PM

Outrageous Muff: Confabulat: What does this even mean? Do you think that sounds wise or something? You sound mildly retarded if so.

It is vanity to proclaim one's superiority on a matter that does not effect oneself.


Well I better stop commenting on the day's news then. Hate to be vain and everything with an opinion.
 
2012-08-12 02:47:39 PM

gameshowhost: Also, you're being very silly right now, GAT_00.


It's definitely going to make me question his opinions more in the politics tab.
 
2012-08-12 02:48:11 PM

Confabulat: Outrageous Muff: Confabulat: What does this even mean? Do you think that sounds wise or something? You sound mildly retarded if so.

It is vanity to proclaim one's superiority on a matter that does not effect oneself.

Well I better stop commenting on the day's news then. Hate to be vain and everything with an opinion.


How cute. Outrageous Muff is looking down his nose at us while committing the same "sin" he's accusing everyone in this thread of.
 
2012-08-12 02:49:09 PM

commieprogressive: gameshowhost: Also, you're being very silly right now, GAT_00.

It's definitely going to make me question his opinions more in the politics tab.


Same here. He's usually somewhat well-reasoned, and he'shiat the nail right on the head in a few other threads this morning. But introduce him to a Penn State thread and he goes full-wharrgarbl
 
2012-08-12 02:49:18 PM

GAT_00: and if this FBI thing goes anywhere, maybe a few more.


If this FBI thing goes places, then PSU would actually deserve the death penalty. (If boosters giving money to players gets you banned, prostituting anyone to boosters to entice donations should definitely get you banned.)

/whatever happened to banging coeds?
 
2012-08-12 02:49:37 PM

GAT_00: Confabulat: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

You know why? Institutionalized child rape.

People don't like that.

Which I understand, but as I keep having to say, the university didn't rape anyone. One guy is known to have done it, and if this FBI thing goes anywhere, maybe a few more. And what's so hard about blaming the people who actually committed the crime?



Sandusky committed the rapes.

The administration committed the cover up.

Some of the students and alumni created the climate of cult-like following of the football team that inspired the administrators to engage in the cover up. If the administration had been less worried about tarnishing the team's reputation, they would have busted Sandusky much earlier and not tried to sweep it under the rug.

Nobody is blaming you, personally, but you have to admit that a lot of farked up things went on. When any institution is treated as though it cannot be questioned, abuses of authority are bound to happen.
 
2012-08-12 02:52:31 PM
americayouaskedforit.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-12 02:56:56 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: commieprogressive: gameshowhost: Also, you're being very silly right now, GAT_00.

It's definitely going to make me question his opinions more in the politics tab.

Same here. He's usually somewhat well-reasoned, and he'shiat the nail right on the head in a few other threads this morning. But introduce him to a Penn State thread and he goes full-wharrgarbl


You guys should check out Gat in a marijuana thread. He is very pro drug war.
 
2012-08-12 02:57:32 PM

Outrageous Muff: Triumph: If the pedo ring reaches into people of real power, it will go the way of the Franklin Scandal and you won't hear anything. The Second Mile has already been quietly shut down without public exposure of its inner workings...

Your tinfoil sales blog sucks.


Is my tinfoil video more entertaining?
 
2012-08-12 02:58:34 PM

GAT_00: Which I understand, but as I keep having to say, the university didn't rape anyone. One guy is known to have done it, and if this FBI thing goes anywhere, maybe a few more. And what's so hard about blaming the people who actually committed the crime?


The public might be singing a different tune had the PSU "community", if you will, reacted with a little more vigor in regards to demanding the full story and with perhaps less vigor in trying to protect the sanctity of the football program.

It might not be fair to lump in every State College resident with the 19 year olds flipping over news trucks when Paterno got fired, but all in all, they created the perception that they care most about football on their own.
 
2012-08-12 02:59:26 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Did anyone think this was isolated? Seriously?

The University Administration was involved in the cover-up. It's not at all surprising to learn that boosters are also involved in the crimes. I'd be very unsurprised current employees of Penn State, past employees, coaches and any number of other folks associated with Penn State had to do with this.


The protection of Sandusky made no sense from a risk management perspective. Sure Paterno might have done it out of misguided loyalty and lack of morals, but protecting an above average D-Coord (who you are forcing into retirement anyway) isn't worth it. Someone would have leaked this over to the BoT or the like and had them fire the guy even if Paterno blocked it. The only real reason you cover this up so intensely is because you're afraid of what else the police find when they start digging around Sandusky's actions.

/can you imagine if Paterno is listed as someone who took part in the kiddie porn/rape ring?
 
2012-08-12 03:00:35 PM

GAT_00: Confabulat: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

You know why? Institutionalized child rape.

People don't like that.

Which I understand, but as I keep having to say, the university didn't rape anyone. One guy is known to have done it, and if this FBI thing goes anywhere, maybe a few more. And what's so hard about blaming the people who actually committed the crime?


I really hope you're trolling. Otherwise, read both grand jury reports and the Freeh report. You will sound so less stupid.
 
2012-08-12 03:01:34 PM

ha-ha-guy: Benevolent Misanthrope: Did anyone think this was isolated? Seriously?

The University Administration was involved in the cover-up. It's not at all surprising to learn that boosters are also involved in the crimes. I'd be very unsurprised current employees of Penn State, past employees, coaches and any number of other folks associated with Penn State had to do with this.

The protection of Sandusky made no sense from a risk management perspective. Sure Paterno might have done it out of misguided loyalty and lack of morals, but protecting an above average D-Coord (who you are forcing into retirement anyway) isn't worth it. Someone would have leaked this over to the BoT or the like and had them fire the guy even if Paterno blocked it. The only real reason you cover this up so intensely is because you're afraid of what else the police find when they start digging around Sandusky's actions.

/can you imagine if Paterno is listed as someone who took part in the kiddie porn/rape ring?


This is a little peek into why Jerry was allowed to run wild:

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/12/05/120511-news-paterno-business- 1 -5/
 
2012-08-12 03:02:25 PM

GAT_00: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

Hmm, the English could be better on that.

Let me rephrase and elaborate. You are free to threaten, insult, demean and just generally abuse the entire institution for the actions of a select few who should be found and put on trial for their supposed crimes. However, if you should tell someone off, like telling off an Internet Tough Guy who said someone should shoot the fans that showed up to a practice to support the players, you will get deleted and banned. The post threatening violence will remain.

There is only one side allowed to these threads, and that is blaming the entire institution of Penn State for the actions of a few.


Most of the people at Enron had nothing to do with the insane scandal. It sucks that they got caught up in it. But as a whole, Enron had to pay for the damage caused by Ken Lay and his cronies.

It ain't pretty but that's what happened. And that's what is happening at Penn State. The fact is that as bad as they are, the punishments against the school as a whole could have been a lot worse. The NCAA went easier than they could have in an attempt to not destroy the school for the actions of the superiors.

Why do we (not just Fark, but the general populace) go after some, but not all, of the Penn State students as being self-important apologist douchebags? Because some, but not all, of the Penn State students are self-important apologist douchebags. Rather than making the slightest effort to understand what a horrible series of crimes occurred on their campus, from the initial rapes to the massive cover-up by all the people who decided that the football program and the school's good name was more important that the lost innocence of the children so horribly abused by Jerry Sandusky, the prevailing theme has been about how this is so totally unfair to the school, Joe Paterno and his legacy, and the students currently there.

That is why the entire institution is threatened (as you say), insulted, demeaned and just generally abused.
 
2012-08-12 03:02:50 PM

Orgasmatron138: I really hope you're trolling. Otherwise, read both grand jury reports and the Freeh report. You will sound so less stupid.


No way, man. Dottie Sandusky and Jay Paterno are the real truth-seekers here. I mean, I certainly can't fathom them having any bias.
 
2012-08-12 03:07:16 PM

ha-ha-guy: The protection of Sandusky made no sense from a risk management perspective. Sure Paterno might have done it out of misguided loyalty and lack of morals, but protecting an above average D-Coord (who you are forcing into retirement anyway) isn't worth it.


People aren't logical. I doubt Paterno would've lifted a finger to protect Sandusky, however loyal the guy was, if he didn't have a massive ego to begin with. He covered it up because he was one of the most powerful men in the state and knew it. Read his non-apology apologies and you'll see just how unrepetant he was, to his dying day. He acted like the University needed his permission to fire him.

TL;DR: JoePa had a massive ego, and ego leads to anything but logical behavior.
 
2012-08-12 03:07:36 PM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: the prevailing theme has been about how this is so totally unfair to the school, Joe Paterno and his legacy, and the students currently there.


Or put another way, when they heard what was going on and that Paterno was being fired instead being angry at Paterno and what happened under his watch, they decided to riot.
 
2012-08-12 03:10:20 PM

dragonchild: He acted like the University needed his permission to fire him.


He didn't just act like the University needed his permission, when the AD tried to fire a few years back basically told the AD he couldn't fire him.
 
2012-08-12 03:10:23 PM

GAT_00:
The Ivy League fits a traditional definition of conservative. They are very opposed to change and exist only to ensure their own survival./i>

Wanna know we know you don't know what you're talking about?

upload.wikimedia.org

Princeton

upload.wikimedia.org

Princeton

upload.wikimedia.org

Harvard

upload.wikimedia.org

Harvard


upload.wikimedia.org

Yale


upload.wikimedia.org

Yale

upload.wikimedia.org


Princeton, Yale, MIT


Yep: Ivy league is a den of conservative values known for putting sports above academics.

 
2012-08-12 03:11:08 PM
Easy, just find the nearest Catholic church and start asking questions
 
2012-08-12 03:13:16 PM

drivingsouth: Hey FBI, welcome to the party. This story has been kicking around PA for a while. About a year ago, it was reported first by Sarah Ganim in the Harrisburg Patriot-News & then by Mark Madden in The Beaver County Times that Sandusky may have been acting as a pimp for big-time donors who happened to also like taking showers with little boys.


Why would you put trust in any publication called the Beaver County Times? Really? You'd be better off with the French Lick Tribune as a source.
 
2012-08-12 03:13:38 PM
GAT_00: sorry about that: was aimed at Godscrack:
 
2012-08-12 03:25:46 PM

GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.


Most of us have read your opinion, its comes off less as an opinion and more of a troll because nobody could be that dense.
 
2012-08-12 03:31:41 PM
For what it's worth, Penn State had been considered one of the "Public Ivies" for a long time.

As for the pedophile ring...

Didn't Mark Madden say something like this was going to come out?
 
2012-08-12 03:44:36 PM

UNC_Samurai: For what it's worth, Penn State had been considered one of the "Public Ivies" for a long time.


I think you're confusing Pedo State for Penn, which is very much a member of the Ivy League.

To be mistaken for Ivy League you have to have some serious academic snobcred. Pedo State isn't bad, but it'd take quite a bit of stupid to mistake it for Ivy League.
 
2012-08-12 03:45:43 PM
I have a feeling that there is going to be a whole rash of prosecutors going missing and their laptops are going to be found smashed and the hard drives removed.
 
2012-08-12 03:54:31 PM

UNC_Samurai: For what it's worth, Penn State had been considered one of the "Public Ivies" for a long time.


In Penn state's case:

Public : Ivy :: Special : Olympics.
 
2012-08-12 03:56:13 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Coco LaFemme: Either you didn't read it, or you have a standard, boiler-plate response to people who post in Penn State threads.

It's the latter. It's as though he's not actually here to listen to what anybody has to say, he's already got his own idea of How Things Are that he absolutely refuses to let go of.


You just described how he posts on every topic.
 
2012-08-12 04:04:04 PM

UNC_Samurai: For what it's worth, Penn State had been considered one of the "Public Ivies" for a long time.

As for the pedophile ring...

Didn't Mark Madden say something like this was going to come out?


Public Ivies? LOL

We have all the state school representation we need from Penn and Cornell
 
2012-08-12 04:07:05 PM

dragonchild: UNC_Samurai: For what it's worth, Penn State had been considered one of the "Public Ivies" for a long time.

I think you're confusing Pedo State for Penn, which is very much a member of the Ivy League.

To be mistaken for Ivy League you have to have some serious academic snobcred. Pedo State isn't bad, but it'd take quite a bit of stupid to mistake it for Ivy League.


When Richard Moll (not that one, the scholar) published The Public Ivys: A Guide to America's Best Undergraduate Colleges and Universities, Penn State was not on the original list; It was, however, among "a list of worthy runners-up".

The original list was William & Mary, Miami-Ohio, Berkeley, Michigan, Chapel Hill, UT-Austin, Vermont, and UVA. The runners-up were Colorado, Georgia Tech, Illinois, New College of Florida, Penn State, Pitt, Binghamton, Washington, and Wisconsin.

The Greene's guides have always put Penn State on their list of public ivies as well.
 
2012-08-12 04:11:51 PM

WhyteRaven74: Coco LaFemme: or contributing to anything,

Well there was that riot when Paterno was fired. And a few students may have had a hand in hounding the first victim to come forward so bad he's in witness protection.


You hit it on the head. Both of those stories were nauseating. Had to go hug my dog after reading them.
 
2012-08-12 04:12:36 PM
Now I get an idea of why Erickson was so eager to take what Emmert was offering.
 
2012-08-12 04:14:42 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Just like the Catholics homosexuals- it's not only the rape, it's the aiding and abetting. It's the culture that accepts this and covers for the perpetrators.


If the perp and the victims are the same gender, then it's homosexual pedophilia. Remember that while bashing the Catholics.
You think any of those criminals would act different elsewhere?
Or you can just ignore that part of the problem and wonder why it continues.
Why is it an adult man finds a male child appealing?
If you're not going to let them hide behind Catholicism, don't let them hide behind homosexuality either.
/not Catholic
 
2012-08-12 04:15:15 PM
All of you are wrong for being so angry about child rape.

Get over it already. The guy is in jail.

$5 says Gat hates the entirety of the catholic church.
 
2012-08-12 04:18:29 PM

Kurmudgeon: If the perp and the victims are the same gender, then it's homosexual pedophilia.


Bless your rotted homophobic heart.
 
2012-08-12 04:26:30 PM

Kurmudgeon: Benevolent Misanthrope: Just like the Catholics homosexuals- it's not only the rape, it's the aiding and abetting. It's the culture that accepts this and covers for the perpetrators.

If the perp and the victims are the same gender, then it's homosexual pedophilia. Remember that while bashing the Catholics.
You think any of those criminals would act different elsewhere?
Or you can just ignore that part of the problem and wonder why it continues.
Why is it an adult man finds a male child appealing?
If you're not going to let them hide behind Catholicism, don't let them hide behind homosexuality either.
/not Catholic


This is the stupidest farking thing I've ever read. If a man molests both boys and girls, does that make him a bisexual? No, it makes him a child molester. Homosexuals are attracted to adults of the same gender.....not children. If you like to assfark little boys, you're not gay. If you like to assfark grown men, you are. Hope that clarified it for you.
 
2012-08-12 04:27:03 PM

Kurmudgeon: Benevolent Misanthrope: Just like the Catholics homosexuals- it's not only the rape, it's the aiding and abetting. It's the culture that accepts this and covers for the perpetrators.

If the perp and the victims are the same gender, then it's homosexual pedophilia. Remember that while bashing the Catholics.
You think any of those criminals would act different elsewhere?
Or you can just ignore that part of the problem and wonder why it continues.
Why is it an adult man finds a male child appealing?
If you're not going to let them hide behind Catholicism, don't let them hide behind homosexuality either.
/not Catholic



Homosexuality refers to an adult who is attracted to another adult of the same sex. Child molesters are not "homosexuals," they are child molesters. Children are not capable of offering informed consent for sexual activity, adults are.

Please do not conflate adults with children, they are not the same thing.


While we're on the subject, being angry about priests molesting kids also doesn't count as "bashing the Catholics." There are millions of Catholics worldwide, and only a few priests molested kids. When you accuse those who are angry at the child molesters of "bashing Catholics," you are implying that all Catholics are child molesters. That simply is not true, and I would appreciate it if you refrain from making that implication again.
 
2012-08-12 04:29:09 PM

bulldg4life: All of you are wrong for being so angry about child rape.

Get over it already. The guy is in jail.


That makes it all better, does it?
 
2012-08-12 04:32:31 PM

FloydA: Kurmudgeon: Benevolent Misanthrope: Just like the Catholics homosexuals- it's not only the rape, it's the aiding and abetting. It's the culture that accepts this and covers for the perpetrators.

If the perp and the victims are the same gender, then it's homosexual pedophilia. Remember that while bashing the Catholics.
You think any of those criminals would act different elsewhere?
Or you can just ignore that part of the problem and wonder why it continues.
Why is it an adult man finds a male child appealing?
If you're not going to let them hide behind Catholicism, don't let them hide behind homosexuality either.
/not Catholic


Homosexuality refers to an adult who is attracted to another adult of the same sex. Child molesters are not "homosexuals," they are child molesters. Children are not capable of offering informed consent for sexual activity, adults are.

Please do not conflate adults with children, they are not the same thing.


While we're on the subject, being angry about priests molesting kids also doesn't count as "bashing the Catholics." There are millions of Catholics worldwide, and only a few priests molested kids. When you accuse those who are angry at the child molesters of "bashing Catholics," you are implying that all Catholics are child molesters. That simply is not true, and I would appreciate it if you refrain from making that implication again.


My parents are Catholic, so not only do they get to hear the whole "you rape kids!" thing, they also get the "you're not really Christians!" thing from the hardcore Baptists and Evangelicals around here. So yeah, refraining from painting all Catholics with the "child molester" tag would be a good move.
 
2012-08-12 04:33:48 PM

FloydA: That makes it all better, does it?


Nothing will. Maybe some day you'll realize this.
 
2012-08-12 04:36:35 PM

FloydA: bulldg4life: All of you are wrong for being so angry about child rape.

Get over it already. The guy is in jail.

That makes it all better, does it?


That's the line of argument, I believe
 
2012-08-12 04:42:36 PM
By the time this is over, they're going to wish the football program had been killed and no more rocks were turned over. Every time they do, more shiat is found.
 
2012-08-12 04:42:50 PM

IAmRight: FloydA: That makes it all better, does it?

Nothing will. Maybe some day you'll realize this.


What argument are you attempting to make here? I think you may have mistaken me for someone else.
 
2012-08-12 04:50:29 PM

Coco LaFemme: This is the stupidest farking thing I've ever read. If a man molests both boys and girls, does that make him a bisexual?


Do you have some info that no one else has? Did Sandusky and this ring of pedophiles around Penn State assault girls as well as boys? How about the majority of these Catholic priests that get dragged out every time the subject comes out?
I'm fully aware that some of these cases, possibly the majority?, with the priests are same gender on same gender.
What's farking stupid is ignoring evidence, ANY EVIDENCE due to prejudice.Now go hide your head in the sand to feed your prejudice in a huge vat of political correctness.
What's good for the Catholics is good for the homos, OR how about toss all of that crap and focus on the perps regardless of their sexual orientation or possible religious affiliation.
I despise hypocrisy, so I won't ignore the fact that a bunch of disgusting old men prefer raping little boys.
PROTECT THE CHILDREN. Nobody gets a free pass there, nobody.
 
2012-08-12 04:53:19 PM

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Bless your rotted homophobic heart.


Bless your rotted blind eyes, you're the kind who allows this kind of thing to continue because you're more worried about your political correctness than the victims.
 
2012-08-12 04:53:57 PM

Kurmudgeon: Coco LaFemme: This is the stupidest farking thing I've ever read. If a man molests both boys and girls, does that make him a bisexual?

Do you have some info that no one else has? Did Sandusky and this ring of pedophiles around Penn State assault girls as well as boys? How about the majority of these Catholic priests that get dragged out every time the subject comes out?
I'm fully aware that some of these cases, possibly the majority?, with the priests are same gender on same gender.
What's farking stupid is ignoring evidence, ANY EVIDENCE due to prejudice.Now go hide your head in the sand to feed your prejudice in a huge vat of political correctness.
What's good for the Catholics is good for the homos, OR how about toss all of that crap and focus on the perps regardless of their sexual orientation or possible religious affiliation.
I despise hypocrisy, so I won't ignore the fact that a bunch of disgusting old men prefer raping little boys.
PROTECT THE CHILDREN. Nobody gets a free pass there, nobody.


Wow. Staggering levels of ignorance.
 
2012-08-12 04:56:17 PM

WhyteRaven74: Coco LaFemme: or contributing to anything,

Well there was that riot when Paterno was fired. And a few students may have had a hand in hounding the first victim to come forward so bad he's in witness protection.


You got to have a citation for this because it is just to disgusting to be true.
 
2012-08-12 05:01:17 PM

FloydA: While we're on the subject, being angry about priests molesting kids also doesn't count as "bashing the Catholics." There are millions of Catholics worldwide, and only a few priests molested kids.


You and I have a vastly different definition of "few".
 
2012-08-12 05:02:56 PM

GAT_00: WTF Indeed: Godscrack: It wont be that bad. This is a rich, Ivy league conservative school. There's so much money backing this scandal, there are probably pay offs happening right now. Most of the facts will get buried by the powers that be.

This is America. We're in the middle of hating brown people and gays. Events like this just interfere with the program.

You know how I know you have no f*cking idea what you are talking about?

The Ivy League fits a traditional definition of conservative. They are very opposed to change and exist only to ensure their own survival.


Penn State is Not and has never been an Ivy League school you farking moronic tool.

/PENN on the other hand...
//GAT00 is too farking stupid to live
///someone shoot him and put us out of our misery
 
2012-08-12 05:04:45 PM

Wookie Milson: Wow. Staggering levels of ignorance.


Yep, call names and ignore the main gist of things.
I'm just some schmuck on a message board, do you think the FBI and other folks of authority are ignoring that connection?
It is what it is. you calling me names won't change one thing.
Staggering levels of hypocrisy is more like it. If what I say bothers you personally, maybe you should look a little closer at who commits this kind of behavior at Penn State and Catholic Churches.
It's been going on for too long, people are getting fed up.
 
2012-08-12 05:06:27 PM

jst3p: FloydA: While we're on the subject, being angry about priests molesting kids also doesn't count as "bashing the Catholics." There are millions of Catholics worldwide, and only a few priests molested kids.

You and I have a vastly different definition of "few".


Since I do not hold all Muslims responsible for the actions of the 9/11 criminals, it is only fair that I do not hold all Catholics responsible for the child molesting priests. However many priests were involved, they compose a microscopic proportion of Catholics, and it is simply inappropriate and illogical to hold all Catholics responsible for their actions.
 
2012-08-12 05:08:43 PM

ongbok: WhyteRaven74: Coco LaFemme: or contributing to anything,


You got to have a citation for this because it is just to disgusting to be true.


Article at top of thread
 
2012-08-12 05:11:31 PM

Kurmudgeon: Wookie Milson: Wow. Staggering levels of ignorance.

Yep, call names and ignore the main gist of things.
I'm just some schmuck on a message board, do you think the FBI and other folks of authority are ignoring that connection?
It is what it is. you calling me names won't change one thing.
Staggering levels of hypocrisy is more like it. If what I say bothers you personally, maybe you should look a little closer at who commits this kind of behavior at Penn State and Catholic Churches.
It's been going on for too long, people are getting fed up.


For the sake of argument, I grant everything you say. So what's your point? Should we track all homosexuals with ankle bracelets? Just keep a close eye on them? Or do I not follow you?
 
2012-08-12 05:17:20 PM

AliceBToklasLives: Kurmudgeon: Wookie Milson: Wow. Staggering levels of ignorance.

Yep, call names and ignore the main gist of things.
I'm just some schmuck on a message board, do you think the FBI and other folks of authority are ignoring that connection?
It is what it is. you calling me names won't change one thing.
Staggering levels of hypocrisy is more like it. If what I say bothers you personally, maybe you should look a little closer at who commits this kind of behavior at Penn State and Catholic Churches.
It's been going on for too long, people are getting fed up.

For the sake of argument, I grant everything you say. So what's your point? Should we track all homosexuals with ankle bracelets? Just keep a close eye on them? Or do I not follow you?


We're not mentioning pedophilia and homosexuality together enough.

Just mention it together do they can be linked.
 
2012-08-12 05:21:35 PM

bulldg4life: AliceBToklasLives: Kurmudgeon: Wookie Milson: Wow. Staggering levels of ignorance.

Yep, call names and ignore the main gist of things.
I'm just some schmuck on a message board, do you think the FBI and other folks of authority are ignoring that connection?
It is what it is. you calling me names won't change one thing.
Staggering levels of hypocrisy is more like it. If what I say bothers you personally, maybe you should look a little closer at who commits this kind of behavior at Penn State and Catholic Churches.
It's been going on for too long, people are getting fed up.

For the sake of argument, I grant everything you say. So what's your point? Should we track all homosexuals with ankle bracelets? Just keep a close eye on them? Or do I not follow you?

We're not mentioning pedophilia and homosexuality together enough.

Just mention it together do they can be linked.


And you're just as dopey as the other dude in the thread.

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2012-08-12 05:24:33 PM

bulldg4life: AliceBToklasLives: Kurmudgeon: Wookie Milson: Wow. Staggering levels of ignorance.

Yep, call names and ignore the main gist of things.
I'm just some schmuck on a message board, do you think the FBI and other folks of authority are ignoring that connection?
It is what it is. you calling me names won't change one thing.
Staggering levels of hypocrisy is more like it. If what I say bothers you personally, maybe you should look a little closer at who commits this kind of behavior at Penn State and Catholic Churches.
It's been going on for too long, people are getting fed up.

For the sake of argument, I grant everything you say. So what's your point? Should we track all homosexuals with ankle bracelets? Just keep a close eye on them? Or do I not follow you?

We're not mentioning pedophilia and homosexuality together enough.

Just mention it together do they can be linked.


Because we always refer to rape committed against women as "heterosexual rape"
 
2012-08-12 05:25:55 PM

AliceBToklasLives: For the sake of argument, I grant everything you say. So what's your point? Should we track all homosexuals with ankle bracelets? Just keep a close eye on them? Or do I not follow you?


Ankle bracelets won't do a thing. My point is in certain situations, athletics, social gatherings like Boy Scount jamborees, and yes, church, some people use these areas for victims, either consciously or subconsciously. That means these areas need to be better monitored.
If Sandusky had been better monitored, a lot of the crime could have been prevented. And throw out that "all homosexuals" baloney. That's as silly as saying "all heterosexuals."
I'm about one of the most unpolitically correct people on the planet, so I'm going to state my opinions with no niceties.
A certain section of the male population like to prey on children. A grown man shouldn't be in an enclosed or hidden area with a young child that isn't his. The problem comes when due to preference, homo or hetero, the opportunities for predators are different and they use that to their advantage. Some may prey on young boys only for the simple reason if they tried to do the same in a girl's shower area, it would be much harder to conceal.
As for abuse within a family setting, that is even harder to detect and outside the scope of what I'm referring to now, though as Sandusky proved, once this behavior is found to have happened, check out the home as well.
 
2012-08-12 05:27:29 PM

FloydA: jst3p: FloydA: While we're on the subject, being angry about priests molesting kids also doesn't count as "bashing the Catholics." There are millions of Catholics worldwide, and only a few priests molested kids.

You and I have a vastly different definition of "few".

Since I do not hold all Muslims responsible for the actions of the 9/11 criminals, it is only fair that I do not hold all Catholics responsible for the child molesting priests. However many priests were involved, they compose a microscopic proportion of Catholics, and it is simply inappropriate and illogical to hold all Catholics responsible for their actions.


I think you downplay the scope of the problem and seem to be OK ignoring the fact that in addition to those "few" priests there was also a an institutional cover up and we will never know how high up it went. Meanwhile the Church, instead of looking for justice or making any attempt to get the men help, just rotated them to a new city with a new group of young boys to prey upon.

I agree it is not fair to hold every Catholic responsible, but I think it is perfectly valid to have contempt for the Catholic Church as an organization.
 
2012-08-12 05:27:33 PM
I never played college ball, but there is no more wretched hive of scum and villainy than high school football.
 
2012-08-12 05:27:35 PM

AliceBToklasLives: For the sake of argument, I grant everything you say. So what's your point? Should we track all homosexuals with ankle bracelets? Just keep a close eye on them? Or do I not follow you?


The point is that people pick and choose which community a disgraced member is a part of (because in reality, a person typically belongs to many, many groups of people, including groups that we belong to ourselves) based on which community they'd like to discriminate against (or already have hate for).
 
2012-08-12 05:32:52 PM

jst3p: I agree it is not fair to hold every Catholic responsible, but I think it is perfectly valid to have contempt for the Catholic Church as an organization.


And predators use that contempt to conceal themselves. You're going off on your favorite prejudice while the perp goes on unpunished, sometimes for years. You attack a church or any organization, and the predator immediately has support and backup as they unwittingly protect the perp while defending their group.
Focus on the perp, the "all these guys are jerks in this group" attack isn't working.
 
2012-08-12 05:33:37 PM
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2012-08-12 05:35:08 PM

jaylectricity: I called this the instant I heard about the boy in the shower.


I called it when the Board of Directors pulled the CYA move by firing Paterno (which, in retrospect, probably was the correct move, but it was still a CYA move). I think that not only were boosters involved, but members of the BoD. That's the entire reason my main argument is that sanctioning the football team does absolutely nothing to deter further cases: Because if it were just the football team, even with JoePa's godlike reach, there wouldn't have been such a cover up and CYA moves from the entire university.
 
2012-08-12 05:35:22 PM

Kurmudgeon: jst3p: I agree it is not fair to hold every Catholic responsible, but I think it is perfectly valid to have contempt for the Catholic Church as an organization.

And predators use that contempt to conceal themselves. You're going off on your favorite prejudice while the perp goes on unpunished, sometimes for years. You attack a church or any organization, and the predator immediately has support and backup as they unwittingly protect the perp while defending their group.
Focus on the perp, the "all these guys are jerks in this group" attack isn't working.


False dichotomy. I will stick with having contempt for the child molesters AND contempt for the individuals and organizations that, as a matter of policy, cover up for them.
 
2012-08-12 05:39:47 PM

Kurmudgeon: AliceBToklasLives: For the sake of argument, I grant everything you say. So what's your point? Should we track all homosexuals with ankle bracelets? Just keep a close eye on them? Or do I not follow you?

Ankle bracelets won't do a thing. My point is in certain situations, athletics, social gatherings like Boy Scount jamborees, and yes, church, some people use these areas for victims, either consciously or subconsciously. That means these areas need to be better monitored.
If Sandusky had been better monitored, a lot of the crime could have been prevented. And throw out that "all homosexuals" baloney. That's as silly as saying "all heterosexuals."
I'm about one of the most unpolitically correct people on the planet, so I'm going to state my opinions with no niceties.
A certain section of the male population like to prey on children. A grown man shouldn't be in an enclosed or hidden area with a young child that isn't his. The problem comes when due to preference, homo or hetero, the opportunities for predators are different and they use that to their advantage. Some may prey on young boys only for the simple reason if they tried to do the same in a girl's shower area, it would be much harder to conceal.
As for abuse within a family setting, that is even harder to detect and outside the scope of what I'm referring to now, though as Sandusky proved, once this behavior is found to have happened, check out the home as well.


Ok, I'll state what should be obvious:

"Heterosexual" pedophiles have little in common with adult heterosexuals. "Heterosexual" pedophiles have sexual desires for female children. That is a world of difference - a world of difference - from having sexual desires for female adults*. The only thing they have in common the gender towards which they are attracted; the desires are otherwise totally different. It's surprising any adult who has sexual desires towards other adults (and has no sexual feelings towards children) would find this concept in any way confusing.

*yes, a 15-year-old is, sexually, an adult - it is despicable for an adult to have sex with a woman that young, but it is not pedophilia
 
2012-08-12 05:41:21 PM
Oh, and I forgot to say that you can replace the word "heterosexual" above with "homosexual" and the same consequences follow.
 
2012-08-12 05:41:21 PM

ScreamingHangover: ongbok: WhyteRaven74: Coco LaFemme: or contributing to anything,


You got to have a citation for this because it is just to disgusting to be true.

Article at top of thread


Jesus Christ on a bicycle. Forget football and Penn State. That whole town needs to be leveled.
 
2012-08-12 05:46:22 PM

Captain Steroid: [i132.photobucket.com image 472x312]


Sees what you did there.
laughingatgod.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-12 05:47:17 PM

jst3p:

I think you downplay the scope of the problem and seem to be OK ignoring the fact that in addition to those "few" priests there was also a an institutional cover up and we will never know how high up it went.



No, I do not downplay the scope, nor am I ignoring (or OK with) the fact that the institution covered it up, and frankly I am quite insulted that you would say that. I wish you had not done so. There was no call for that type of personal insult.

I don't think John Q. Papist who didn't even know this was going on should be held in contempt. That's what I'm saying. The people involved in child abuse and the people involved in the cover up should, in my opinion, be imprisoned for life. But the people in the pews who had no idea that any of this was happening, they really cannot be held responsible. Blaming all Catholics for the actions of the criminal priests is not rational.



Meanwhile the Church, instead of looking for justice or making any attempt to get the men help, just rotated them to a new city with a new group of young boys to prey upon.

I agree it is not fair to hold every Catholic responsible, but I think it is perfectly valid to have contempt for the Catholic Church as an organization.


Quite so. There are numerous reasons to hold the Church (as an institution) in contempt. However, those reasons do not transfer to the individual members.


But my initial point was that my contempt for child-molesting priests does not constitute "bashing the Catholics," which was the accusation I was refuting.
 
2012-08-12 05:48:29 PM

my lip balm addiction: GAT_00: WTF Indeed: Godscrack: It wont be that bad. This is a rich, Ivy league conservative school. There's so much money backing this scandal, there are probably pay offs happening right now. Most of the facts will get buried by the powers that be.

This is America. We're in the middle of hating brown people and gays. Events like this just interfere with the program.

You know how I know you have no f*cking idea what you are talking about?

The Ivy League fits a traditional definition of conservative. They are very opposed to change and exist only to ensure their own survival.

Penn State is Not and has never been an Ivy League school you farking moronic tool.

/PENN on the other hand...
//GAT00 is too farking stupid to live
///someone shoot him and put us out of our misery


It is understandable that you are confused, but the University of Penn - State College is, in fact, an Ivy League institution. You are confusing it with Penn State University - Philadelphia Branch. Very common mistake.
 
2012-08-12 05:49:56 PM

FloydA: Quite so. There are numerous reasons to hold the Church (as an institution) in contempt. However, those reasons do not transfer to the individual members.


The individuals who choose to associate themselves with a contemptible institution are also worthy of my contempt.

FloydA: But my initial point was that my contempt for child-molesting priests does not constitute "bashing the Catholics," which was the accusation I was refuting.


Fair enough.
 
2012-08-12 05:52:04 PM

jst3p:
The individuals who choose to associate themselves with a contemptible institution are also worthy of my contempt.
.


Fair point.
 
2012-08-12 05:55:43 PM

bulldg4life: All of you are wrong for being so angry about child rape.

Get over it already. The guy is in jail.

$5 says Gat hates the entirety of the catholic church.


Its impossible to get too angry over child rape.
 
2012-08-12 06:19:50 PM
Penn State might want to change the name. At the moment, it's invoking images of caged little boys being watched over by drooling naked old men wearing bath towels, sporting woodies.
 
2012-08-12 06:46:42 PM

ScreamingHangover: GAT_00:
The Ivy League fits a traditional definition of conservative. They are very opposed to change and exist only to ensure their own survival./i>

Wanna know we know you don't know what you're talking about?

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Princeton

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Princeton

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Harvard

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Harvard


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Yale


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Yale

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Princeton, Yale, MIT


Yep: Ivy league is a den of conservative values known for putting sports above academics.


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Yale, Harvard Business School

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Yale Law

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Harvard Law

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Harvard Law
 
2012-08-12 06:48:40 PM
Penn State Board of Trustee member Anthony Lubrano just said that Joe Paterno "has more integrity in his little finger than the NCAA President has in his entire body."

The same Lubrano that got elected with this video.
 
2012-08-12 06:50:08 PM
WE ARE!


/cannot wait for IAMNAMBLA to inform us all how pedophilia rings are socially acceptable and normal in Phuket and central PA
 
2012-08-12 07:00:28 PM

johnnylarue: Penn State Board of Trustee member Anthony Lubrano just said that Joe Paterno "has more integrity in his little finger than the NCAA President has in his entire body."

The same Lubrano that got elected with this video.



I think that in this case "integrity" is a code word for a 10 year old boy's Santorum.
 
2012-08-12 07:00:30 PM

Godscrack: The My Little Pony Killer: Good. Let them suffer.

It wont be that bad. This is a rich, Ivy league conservative school. There's so much money backing this scandal, there are probably pay offs happening right now. Most of the facts will get buried by the powers that be.

This is America. We're in the middle of hating brown people and gays. Events like this just interfere with the program.


This has to be a troll, but University of Pennsylvania and Penn State are a tad bit different
 
2012-08-12 07:01:05 PM

ScreamingHangover: ongbok: WhyteRaven74: Coco LaFemme: or contributing to anything,


You got to have a citation for this because it is just to disgusting to be true.

Article at top of thread


That left me sick to my stomach.

Now I have to wonder if this whole Sandusky thing is the leverage that Joe Pa used to keep his job when Penn State wanted him to retire before.
 
2012-08-12 07:02:55 PM
The FBI and U.S. Postal inspectors??
 
2012-08-12 07:05:28 PM

SlothB77: The FBI and U.S. Postal inspectors??


bplusmovieblog.files.wordpress.com

They don't fark around.
 
2012-08-12 07:27:22 PM
Central PA, where u can fark kids, and it's ok.
 
2012-08-12 07:48:41 PM

fatalvenom: Central PA, where u can fark kids, and it's ok.


As long as you are good at football.

One of my friends who is from Texas was joking around the other day. He said that in Texas as long as you are good at football you can get away with most things and will be forgiven for just about anything, but in Pennsylvania they are taking that to a whole different level. He said that he didn't even think Texas would go to this level to defend somebody in the same situation.
 
2012-08-12 07:59:13 PM

Triumph: If the pedo ring reaches into people of real power, it will go the way of the Franklin Scandal and you won't hear anything. The Second Mile has already been quietly shut down without public exposure of its inner workings...


I and others have mentioned this, and it bears repeating (thanks). It is worth your time to read about this linked Franklin scandal. See how people who try to unmask these monsters are treated (if they're lucky, they are allowed to live). And you can bet that the worse the whistle blowers are treated, the more important and rich the hidden criminals are. Don't forget that DA who was investigating the case who disappeared without a trace.
 
2012-08-12 08:04:07 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Did anyone think this was isolated? Seriously?


Does anyone think that Penn State had the only untouchable football program that played host to such darkness?

The NCAA went easy on Penn State because they know more victims of other programs will be coming forth. Can't set a precedent you don't want to live up to.
 
2012-08-12 08:05:27 PM

GAT_00: Let me rephrase and elaborate. You are free to threaten, insult, demean and just generally abuse the entire institution for the actions of a select few who should be found and put on trial for their supposed crimes.


Let me elaborate: Fark you, and fark your stupid little cult.
 
2012-08-12 08:08:39 PM

Krumet: Triumph: If the pedo ring reaches into people of real power, it will go the way of the Franklin Scandal and you won't hear anything. The Second Mile has already been quietly shut down without public exposure of its inner workings...

I and others have mentioned this, and it bears repeating (thanks). It is worth your time to read about this linked Franklin scandal. See how people who try to unmask these monsters are treated (if they're lucky, they are allowed to live). And you can bet that the worse the whistle blowers are treated, the more important and rich the hidden criminals are. Don't forget that DA who was investigating the case who disappeared without a trace.


I'm from Omaha, we all heard the rumors long before it came out. Most of the rumors centered around BoysTown - which was known as a stable for the likes of Peter Citron and Willie Thiesen's friends.
 
2012-08-12 08:16:35 PM

IAmRight: /whatever happened to banging coeds?


Apparently a Nittany Lion or two finds them
media.skateboard.com.au


/Probaly also too bevaginad
 
2012-08-12 08:17:53 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: commieprogressive: gameshowhost: Also, you're being very silly right now, GAT_00.

It's definitely going to make me question his opinions more in the politics tab.

Same here. He's usually somewhat well-reasoned, and he'shiat the nail right on the head in a few other threads this morning.


LOLWAT? GAT has never been right about anything, ever. Whenever I read some of the most outrageously stupid ramblings here, I can guess they are either him, Whidbey, or Linux Yes before I see the screen name.

Seriously, if you ever find yourself agreeing with him on anything, it's time to reevaluate your position.
 
2012-08-12 08:22:48 PM

Krumet: Triumph: If the pedo ring reaches into people of real power, it will go the way of the Franklin Scandal and you won't hear anything. The Second Mile has already been quietly shut down without public exposure of its inner workings...

I and others have mentioned this, and it bears repeating (thanks). It is worth your time to read about this linked Franklin scandal. See how people who try to unmask these monsters are treated (if they're lucky, they are allowed to live). And you can bet that the worse the whistle blowers are treated, the more important and rich the hidden criminals are. Don't forget that DA who was investigating the case who disappeared without a trace.


And don't forget the best part so far - the disgraced former president of Penn State now has a federal government job so secret they can't tell us what it is. But no, there's no coverup going on.
 
2012-08-12 08:32:45 PM
And thousands of idiots with advanced degrees will still defend PSU and their SPORTS PROGRAM to their death. When did we lose our minds? Because this is clearly the sign that confirms that.
 
2012-08-12 09:07:19 PM
is GAT_00 the ontariolightning of college football?
 
2012-08-12 09:16:18 PM

NASAM: Seriously, if you ever find yourself agreeing with him on anything, it's time to reevaluate your position.


That's been my stance as of late. I can't handle the sheer levels of idiocy he's been able to put forth in these Penn State threads.
 
2012-08-12 09:40:55 PM

GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.


If you want to check the mentality of some of these Penn State fans just check their fan message board. Downright embarrassing.
 
2012-08-13 12:03:58 AM

NASAM: The My Little Pony Killer: commieprogressive: gameshowhost: Also, you're being very silly right now, GAT_00.

It's definitely going to make me question his opinions more in the politics tab.

Same here. He's usually somewhat well-reasoned, and he'shiat the nail right on the head in a few other threads this morning.

LOLWAT? GAT has never been right about anything, ever. Whenever I read some of the most outrageously stupid ramblings here, I can guess they are either him, Whidbey, or Linux Yes before I see the screen name.

Seriously, if you ever find yourself agreeing with him on anything, it's time to reevaluate your position.


The only way people say that is because he falls in line with the way everyone thinks in those threads or just parrots what bill mahr/Jon Stewart is talking about to sound like he agrees with them. If you dare to deviate from their preconceived line at all then you are a neo-conservative who eats babies and kicks puppies. Its crazy talk that there is any middle ground.
 
2012-08-13 12:49:48 AM

Twitch Boy: If I'm a Penn State student right now, I'm blasting The Victors out my window 24/7 out of spite.

/hate Meeeechigan, but at least they're a darn good school and they didn't diddle little boys


I heard some Penn State students where going to transfer to Ohio St. but didn't want to be with such vile scum.
 
2012-08-13 01:22:00 AM

Kurmudgeon: Focus on the perp, the "all these guys are jerks in this group" attack isn't working.


What about 'the people in this group who protected the pedophile and put children in danger' thing...is that okay?
 
2012-08-13 05:31:18 AM

Coco LaFemme: FloydA: Kurmudgeon: Benevolent Misanthrope: Just like the Catholics homosexuals- it's not only the rape, it's the aiding and abetting. It's the culture that accepts this and covers for the perpetrators.

If the perp and the victims are the same gender, then it's homosexual pedophilia. Remember that while bashing the Catholics.
You think any of those criminals would act different elsewhere?
Or you can just ignore that part of the problem and wonder why it continues.
Why is it an adult man finds a male child appealing?
If you're not going to let them hide behind Catholicism, don't let them hide behind homosexuality either.
/not Catholic


Homosexuality refers to an adult who is attracted to another adult of the same sex. Child molesters are not "homosexuals," they are child molesters. Children are not capable of offering informed consent for sexual activity, adults are.

Please do not conflate adults with children, they are not the same thing.


While we're on the subject, being angry about priests molesting kids also doesn't count as "bashing the Catholics." There are millions of Catholics worldwide, and only a few priests molested kids. When you accuse those who are angry at the child molesters of "bashing Catholics," you are implying that all Catholics are child molesters. That simply is not true, and I would appreciate it if you refrain from making that implication again.

My parents are Catholic, so not only do they get to hear the whole "you rape kids!" thing, they also get the "you're not really Christians!" thing from the hardcore Baptists and Evangelicals around here. So yeah, refraining from painting all Catholics with the "child molester" tag would be a good move.


Really? People walk up to your parents and say "you rape kids"? I find that a little hard to believe.
 
2012-08-13 05:33:05 AM

Coco LaFemme: FloydA: Kurmudgeon: Benevolent Misanthrope: Just like the Catholics homosexuals- it's not only the rape, it's the aiding and abetting. It's the culture that accepts this and covers for the perpetrators.

If the perp and the victims are the same gender, then it's homosexual pedophilia. Remember that while bashing the Catholics.
You think any of those criminals would act different elsewhere?
Or you can just ignore that part of the problem and wonder why it continues.
Why is it an adult man finds a male child appealing?
If you're not going to let them hide behind Catholicism, don't let them hide behind homosexuality either.
/not Catholic


Homosexuality refers to an adult who is attracted to another adult of the same sex. Child molesters are not "homosexuals," they are child molesters. Children are not capable of offering informed consent for sexual activity, adults are.

Please do not conflate adults with children, they are not the same thing.


While we're on the subject, being angry about priests molesting kids also doesn't count as "bashing the Catholics." There are millions of Catholics worldwide, and only a few priests molested kids. When you accuse those who are angry at the child molesters of "bashing Catholics," you are implying that all Catholics are child molesters. That simply is not true, and I would appreciate it if you refrain from making that implication again.

My parents are Catholic, so not only do they get to hear the whole "you rape kids!" thing, they also get the "you're not really Christians!" thing from the hardcore Baptists and Evangelicals around here. So yeah, refraining from painting all Catholics with the "child molester" tag would be a good move.


And as a recovered Catholic, now atheist, I seem to remember how the Catholic church claims it's the "one true church" founded by God. So maybe you all should get off of your cross and try to remember the real victims of these scandals.
 
2012-08-13 08:44:53 AM
AWFUL
 
2012-08-13 09:16:24 AM
I just had a Penn State alum move in next door to me. That f*cker can't drive.
 
2012-08-13 10:05:15 AM
Everything that occurred was a possible and predictable outcome of the fundamental mistake the University's leadership made (which MANY other universities with big-time sports programs do as well), which was to let the football program become more important than the school.

Once you let that happen then the coach is basically calling the shots on school policies, which is looney-tunes, and a recipe for disaster. Add to that the fact that Jo-Pa was out to lunch the last decade and you have an institution that is incapable of enforcing any kinds of rules on itself and a university that is too terrified of being grubmled at by an octogenarian to act. It could have been drugs, cars, date-rape, gambling, cock-fighting, or other offenses (the specific offense was particularly despicable), but the University abdicated its oversight responsibilities years ago.
 
2012-08-13 11:33:34 AM

Godscrack: The My Little Pony Killer: Good. Let them suffer.

It wont be that bad. This is a rich, Ivy league conservative school. There's so much money backing this scandal, there are probably pay offs happening right now. Most of the facts will get buried by the powers that be.

This is America. We're in the middle of hating brown people and gays. Events like this just interfere with the program.


Penn is an ivy league school, Penn State is a public university. Two different schools, no affiliation, so direct your hate accordingly.
 
2012-08-13 12:03:13 PM

ongbok: WhyteRaven74: Coco LaFemme: or contributing to anything,

Well there was that riot when Paterno was fired. And a few students may have had a hand in hounding the first victim to come forward so bad he's in witness protection.

You got to have a citation for this because it is just to disgusting to be true.


After Steve Bartman why would anything be hard to believe?

Kurmudgeon: Coco LaFemme: This is the stupidest farking thing I've ever read. If a man molests both boys and girls, does that make him a bisexual?

Do you have some info that no one else has? Did Sandusky and this ring of pedophiles around Penn State assault girls as well as boys? How about the majority of these Catholic priests that get dragged out every time the subject comes out?
I'm fully aware that some of these cases, possibly the majority?, with the priests are same gender on same gender.
What's farking stupid is ignoring evidence, ANY EVIDENCE due to prejudice.Now go hide your head in the sand to feed your prejudice in a huge vat of political correctness.
What's good for the Catholics is good for the homos, OR how about toss all of that crap and focus on the perps regardless of their sexual orientation or possible religious affiliation.
I despise hypocrisy, so I won't ignore the fact that a bunch of disgusting old men prefer raping little boys.
PROTECT THE CHILDREN. Nobody gets a free pass there, nobody.


Are you aware that child molestation is more about opportunity than gender? Do you think Jerry could shower with little girls and go unnoticed? Men who molest girls are usually family friends or babysitters. They have opportunity. What a maroon.
 
2012-08-13 12:28:07 PM

softshoes: What a maroon.


what an in-cow-poop
 
2012-08-13 12:43:18 PM
What I have learned from this thread:

Penn State is an Ivy League school.

The Ivy League is controlled by Catholics.

Having sex solely with little boys is considered molestation but it isn't gay because the victims don't give consent so that makes it okay.

Ditto for 15 year olds.

All of these child molesters get high positions in government and therefore are just as immune from prosecution like that South African dickhead in Lethal Weapon 2.

Every college believes their football program is sacred and the NCAA is so weak willed it will never ask for a total rehaul because money and politics and corruption and shut up this is the way it has always been.

I am getting restrainig orders on all you bastards.
 
2012-08-13 12:48:08 PM

rjakobi: What I have learned from this thread:

Penn State is an Ivy League school.

The Ivy League is controlled by Catholics.

Having sex solely with little boys is considered molestation but it isn't gay because the victims don't give consent so that makes it okay.

Ditto for 15 year olds.

All of these child molesters get high positions in government and therefore are just as immune from prosecution like that South African dickhead in Lethal Weapon 2.

Every college believes their football program is sacred and the NCAA is so weak willed it will never ask for a total rehaul because money and politics and corruption and shut up this is the way it has always been.

I am getting restrainig orders on all you bastards.


Welcome to my favorites list
 
2012-08-13 01:34:56 PM

GAT_00: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

Hmm, the English could be better on that.

Let me rephrase and elaborate. You are free to threaten, insult, demean and just generally abuse the entire institution for the actions of a select few who should be found and put on trial for their supposed crimes. However, if you should tell someone off, like telling off an Internet Tough Guy who said someone should shoot the fans that showed up to a practice to support the players, you will get deleted and banned. The post threatening violence will remain.

There is only one side allowed to these threads, and that is blaming the entire institution of Penn State for the actions of a few.


Well seeing as how an entire institution worked to cover up these crimes to save their precious football program, the entire University needs to be punished.

This isn't the first time people who had no involvement in the crime were punished in college athletics. Why is it such an issue now?
 
2012-08-13 01:37:17 PM

rjakobi:

Having sex solely with little boys is considered molestation but it isn't gay because the victims don't give consent so that makes it okay.


Molesting children is not OK, and nobody has said otherwise.

It is not "gay" because gay men are sexually attracted to other men. Child molesters are attracted to children. Adults and children are not the same thing.

Try to read for comprehension.
 
2012-08-13 06:46:13 PM

FloydA: rjakobi:

Having sex solely with little boys is considered molestation but it isn't gay because the victims don't give consent so that makes it okay.


Molesting children is not OK, and nobody has said otherwise.

It is not "gay" because gay men are sexually attracted to other men. Child molesters are attracted to children. Adults and children are not the same thing.

Try to read for comprehension.


Not only this (and it's sad I have to point this out in each and every farking thread of this type), but:

Persons who seek out and molest children are now being increasingly recognised as not being homosexual or heterosexual, but in fact having what amounts to a "pedosexual" orientation--they have no attraction towards male or female adults but have their primary sexual attraction to pre-pubescents who have not attained secondary sexual characteristics. Skews towards one gender or another are generally recognised as the particular group that the "pedosexual" has access to (in general in Western society, we don't let males lead all-female groups and vice versa and there still is some non-negligible segregation of the sexes in group activities that would give victimisation opportunities to a pedophile, so it often gives a false impression of same-sex attraction in cases where the "pedosexual" targets non-related victims; in cases where "pedosexuals" target underage victims within their own families, the ratio of victims is about 50/50 and any skew is a result of the main gender of underage victims in the family).

And yes, this is a true sexual orientation--tests show that "pedosexuals" show signs of sexual arousal with pictures of children in the exact same way that, say, a heterosexual person would show arousal at porny pics of the opposite sex or that gay or lesbian folks would show arousal at porny pics of the same sex (and how bisexual folks show arousal at both).

Pedophiliac orientation is (quite unlike adult same-sex and opposite-sex attraction) very harmful to the non-dominant, non-consenting party--which is why it's considered a legitimate mental illness or disability (the defining point of "disability" being "Does this actually hurt yourself or others or cause serious problems in functioning in society? If so, it's illness, if not, it's just weird").

(Incidentially, this is also why so many paedophiles are repeat offenders--it's every bit as impossible to "de-pedo" them as it is to "de-gay" someone who has a sexual orientation of same-gender attraction.)

Also, the fact that a pedophile is married doesn't disqualify them from being "pedosexual"; the phenomenon of "beards" in persons with same-gender sexual orientation is well known, and not only is it not unknown for pedosexuals to have "beards" but it's also not unknown for pedosexuals to seek out other pedosexuals for marriage (there is a surprisingly high rate, especially in cases where production of child pornography is concerned, where both partners in a marriage are participants in victimisation of pre-pubescent children).

Seriously, this is something that's been recognised in the scientific and particularly in the psychiatric community since the late sixties. I could point folks to some legitimate reading matter on the subject (as in not published by some dominionist "Christian alternative" to legitimate mental health and sociology associations but published by legitimate, recognised medical associations with actual peer review; no, Paul Cameron's "research" and material from NARTH, the "American College of Pediatricians" and/or the "Christian Medical and Dental Association" are not legitimate). :3
 
2012-08-13 08:21:07 PM

rjakobi: What I have learned from this thread:

Penn State is an Ivy League school.

The Ivy League is controlled by Catholics.

Having sex solely with little boys is considered molestation but it isn't gay because the victims don't give consent so that makes it okay.

Ditto for 15 year olds.

All of these child molesters get high positions in government and therefore are just as immune from prosecution like that South African dickhead in Lethal Weapon 2.

Every college believes their football program is sacred and the NCAA is so weak willed it will never ask for a total rehaul because money and politics and corruption and shut up this is the way it has always been.

I am getting restrainig orders on all you bastards.


I *was* going to get you the Disney Channel.
 
2012-08-13 11:01:08 PM

Great Porn Dragon: Seriously, this is something that's been recognised in the scientific and particularly in the psychiatric community since the late sixties. I could point folks to some legitimate reading matter on the subject (as in not published by some dominionist "Christian alternative" to legitimate mental health and sociology associations but published by legitimate, recognised medical associations with actual peer review


I would be very interested in those citations. I'm not a psychiatric professional, I'm an anthropologist, but those studies do have relevance to me. EIP thanks.
 
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