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(FanNation)   If you thought Jerry Sandusky's conviction, Joe Paterno's death, and NCAA sanctions were the end of the Penn State scandal, you're wrong. It's about to get *much* uglier   (fannation.com) divider line 180
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2012-08-12 07:48:41 PM

fatalvenom: Central PA, where u can fark kids, and it's ok.


As long as you are good at football.

One of my friends who is from Texas was joking around the other day. He said that in Texas as long as you are good at football you can get away with most things and will be forgiven for just about anything, but in Pennsylvania they are taking that to a whole different level. He said that he didn't even think Texas would go to this level to defend somebody in the same situation.
 
2012-08-12 07:59:13 PM

Triumph: If the pedo ring reaches into people of real power, it will go the way of the Franklin Scandal and you won't hear anything. The Second Mile has already been quietly shut down without public exposure of its inner workings...


I and others have mentioned this, and it bears repeating (thanks). It is worth your time to read about this linked Franklin scandal. See how people who try to unmask these monsters are treated (if they're lucky, they are allowed to live). And you can bet that the worse the whistle blowers are treated, the more important and rich the hidden criminals are. Don't forget that DA who was investigating the case who disappeared without a trace.
 
2012-08-12 08:04:07 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Did anyone think this was isolated? Seriously?


Does anyone think that Penn State had the only untouchable football program that played host to such darkness?

The NCAA went easy on Penn State because they know more victims of other programs will be coming forth. Can't set a precedent you don't want to live up to.
 
2012-08-12 08:05:27 PM

GAT_00: Let me rephrase and elaborate. You are free to threaten, insult, demean and just generally abuse the entire institution for the actions of a select few who should be found and put on trial for their supposed crimes.


Let me elaborate: Fark you, and fark your stupid little cult.
 
2012-08-12 08:08:39 PM

Krumet: Triumph: If the pedo ring reaches into people of real power, it will go the way of the Franklin Scandal and you won't hear anything. The Second Mile has already been quietly shut down without public exposure of its inner workings...

I and others have mentioned this, and it bears repeating (thanks). It is worth your time to read about this linked Franklin scandal. See how people who try to unmask these monsters are treated (if they're lucky, they are allowed to live). And you can bet that the worse the whistle blowers are treated, the more important and rich the hidden criminals are. Don't forget that DA who was investigating the case who disappeared without a trace.


I'm from Omaha, we all heard the rumors long before it came out. Most of the rumors centered around BoysTown - which was known as a stable for the likes of Peter Citron and Willie Thiesen's friends.
 
2012-08-12 08:16:35 PM

IAmRight: /whatever happened to banging coeds?


Apparently a Nittany Lion or two finds them
media.skateboard.com.au


/Probaly also too bevaginad
 
2012-08-12 08:17:53 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: commieprogressive: gameshowhost: Also, you're being very silly right now, GAT_00.

It's definitely going to make me question his opinions more in the politics tab.

Same here. He's usually somewhat well-reasoned, and he'shiat the nail right on the head in a few other threads this morning.


LOLWAT? GAT has never been right about anything, ever. Whenever I read some of the most outrageously stupid ramblings here, I can guess they are either him, Whidbey, or Linux Yes before I see the screen name.

Seriously, if you ever find yourself agreeing with him on anything, it's time to reevaluate your position.
 
2012-08-12 08:22:48 PM

Krumet: Triumph: If the pedo ring reaches into people of real power, it will go the way of the Franklin Scandal and you won't hear anything. The Second Mile has already been quietly shut down without public exposure of its inner workings...

I and others have mentioned this, and it bears repeating (thanks). It is worth your time to read about this linked Franklin scandal. See how people who try to unmask these monsters are treated (if they're lucky, they are allowed to live). And you can bet that the worse the whistle blowers are treated, the more important and rich the hidden criminals are. Don't forget that DA who was investigating the case who disappeared without a trace.


And don't forget the best part so far - the disgraced former president of Penn State now has a federal government job so secret they can't tell us what it is. But no, there's no coverup going on.
 
2012-08-12 08:32:45 PM
And thousands of idiots with advanced degrees will still defend PSU and their SPORTS PROGRAM to their death. When did we lose our minds? Because this is clearly the sign that confirms that.
 
2012-08-12 09:07:19 PM
is GAT_00 the ontariolightning of college football?
 
2012-08-12 09:16:18 PM

NASAM: Seriously, if you ever find yourself agreeing with him on anything, it's time to reevaluate your position.


That's been my stance as of late. I can't handle the sheer levels of idiocy he's been able to put forth in these Penn State threads.
 
2012-08-12 09:40:55 PM

GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.


If you want to check the mentality of some of these Penn State fans just check their fan message board. Downright embarrassing.
 
2012-08-13 12:03:58 AM

NASAM: The My Little Pony Killer: commieprogressive: gameshowhost: Also, you're being very silly right now, GAT_00.

It's definitely going to make me question his opinions more in the politics tab.

Same here. He's usually somewhat well-reasoned, and he'shiat the nail right on the head in a few other threads this morning.

LOLWAT? GAT has never been right about anything, ever. Whenever I read some of the most outrageously stupid ramblings here, I can guess they are either him, Whidbey, or Linux Yes before I see the screen name.

Seriously, if you ever find yourself agreeing with him on anything, it's time to reevaluate your position.


The only way people say that is because he falls in line with the way everyone thinks in those threads or just parrots what bill mahr/Jon Stewart is talking about to sound like he agrees with them. If you dare to deviate from their preconceived line at all then you are a neo-conservative who eats babies and kicks puppies. Its crazy talk that there is any middle ground.
 
2012-08-13 12:49:48 AM

Twitch Boy: If I'm a Penn State student right now, I'm blasting The Victors out my window 24/7 out of spite.

/hate Meeeechigan, but at least they're a darn good school and they didn't diddle little boys


I heard some Penn State students where going to transfer to Ohio St. but didn't want to be with such vile scum.
 
2012-08-13 01:22:00 AM

Kurmudgeon: Focus on the perp, the "all these guys are jerks in this group" attack isn't working.


What about 'the people in this group who protected the pedophile and put children in danger' thing...is that okay?
 
2012-08-13 05:31:18 AM

Coco LaFemme: FloydA: Kurmudgeon: Benevolent Misanthrope: Just like the Catholics homosexuals- it's not only the rape, it's the aiding and abetting. It's the culture that accepts this and covers for the perpetrators.

If the perp and the victims are the same gender, then it's homosexual pedophilia. Remember that while bashing the Catholics.
You think any of those criminals would act different elsewhere?
Or you can just ignore that part of the problem and wonder why it continues.
Why is it an adult man finds a male child appealing?
If you're not going to let them hide behind Catholicism, don't let them hide behind homosexuality either.
/not Catholic


Homosexuality refers to an adult who is attracted to another adult of the same sex. Child molesters are not "homosexuals," they are child molesters. Children are not capable of offering informed consent for sexual activity, adults are.

Please do not conflate adults with children, they are not the same thing.


While we're on the subject, being angry about priests molesting kids also doesn't count as "bashing the Catholics." There are millions of Catholics worldwide, and only a few priests molested kids. When you accuse those who are angry at the child molesters of "bashing Catholics," you are implying that all Catholics are child molesters. That simply is not true, and I would appreciate it if you refrain from making that implication again.

My parents are Catholic, so not only do they get to hear the whole "you rape kids!" thing, they also get the "you're not really Christians!" thing from the hardcore Baptists and Evangelicals around here. So yeah, refraining from painting all Catholics with the "child molester" tag would be a good move.


Really? People walk up to your parents and say "you rape kids"? I find that a little hard to believe.
 
2012-08-13 05:33:05 AM

Coco LaFemme: FloydA: Kurmudgeon: Benevolent Misanthrope: Just like the Catholics homosexuals- it's not only the rape, it's the aiding and abetting. It's the culture that accepts this and covers for the perpetrators.

If the perp and the victims are the same gender, then it's homosexual pedophilia. Remember that while bashing the Catholics.
You think any of those criminals would act different elsewhere?
Or you can just ignore that part of the problem and wonder why it continues.
Why is it an adult man finds a male child appealing?
If you're not going to let them hide behind Catholicism, don't let them hide behind homosexuality either.
/not Catholic


Homosexuality refers to an adult who is attracted to another adult of the same sex. Child molesters are not "homosexuals," they are child molesters. Children are not capable of offering informed consent for sexual activity, adults are.

Please do not conflate adults with children, they are not the same thing.


While we're on the subject, being angry about priests molesting kids also doesn't count as "bashing the Catholics." There are millions of Catholics worldwide, and only a few priests molested kids. When you accuse those who are angry at the child molesters of "bashing Catholics," you are implying that all Catholics are child molesters. That simply is not true, and I would appreciate it if you refrain from making that implication again.

My parents are Catholic, so not only do they get to hear the whole "you rape kids!" thing, they also get the "you're not really Christians!" thing from the hardcore Baptists and Evangelicals around here. So yeah, refraining from painting all Catholics with the "child molester" tag would be a good move.


And as a recovered Catholic, now atheist, I seem to remember how the Catholic church claims it's the "one true church" founded by God. So maybe you all should get off of your cross and try to remember the real victims of these scandals.
 
2012-08-13 08:44:53 AM
AWFUL
 
2012-08-13 09:16:24 AM
I just had a Penn State alum move in next door to me. That f*cker can't drive.
 
2012-08-13 10:05:15 AM
Everything that occurred was a possible and predictable outcome of the fundamental mistake the University's leadership made (which MANY other universities with big-time sports programs do as well), which was to let the football program become more important than the school.

Once you let that happen then the coach is basically calling the shots on school policies, which is looney-tunes, and a recipe for disaster. Add to that the fact that Jo-Pa was out to lunch the last decade and you have an institution that is incapable of enforcing any kinds of rules on itself and a university that is too terrified of being grubmled at by an octogenarian to act. It could have been drugs, cars, date-rape, gambling, cock-fighting, or other offenses (the specific offense was particularly despicable), but the University abdicated its oversight responsibilities years ago.
 
2012-08-13 11:33:34 AM

Godscrack: The My Little Pony Killer: Good. Let them suffer.

It wont be that bad. This is a rich, Ivy league conservative school. There's so much money backing this scandal, there are probably pay offs happening right now. Most of the facts will get buried by the powers that be.

This is America. We're in the middle of hating brown people and gays. Events like this just interfere with the program.


Penn is an ivy league school, Penn State is a public university. Two different schools, no affiliation, so direct your hate accordingly.
 
2012-08-13 12:03:13 PM

ongbok: WhyteRaven74: Coco LaFemme: or contributing to anything,

Well there was that riot when Paterno was fired. And a few students may have had a hand in hounding the first victim to come forward so bad he's in witness protection.

You got to have a citation for this because it is just to disgusting to be true.


After Steve Bartman why would anything be hard to believe?

Kurmudgeon: Coco LaFemme: This is the stupidest farking thing I've ever read. If a man molests both boys and girls, does that make him a bisexual?

Do you have some info that no one else has? Did Sandusky and this ring of pedophiles around Penn State assault girls as well as boys? How about the majority of these Catholic priests that get dragged out every time the subject comes out?
I'm fully aware that some of these cases, possibly the majority?, with the priests are same gender on same gender.
What's farking stupid is ignoring evidence, ANY EVIDENCE due to prejudice.Now go hide your head in the sand to feed your prejudice in a huge vat of political correctness.
What's good for the Catholics is good for the homos, OR how about toss all of that crap and focus on the perps regardless of their sexual orientation or possible religious affiliation.
I despise hypocrisy, so I won't ignore the fact that a bunch of disgusting old men prefer raping little boys.
PROTECT THE CHILDREN. Nobody gets a free pass there, nobody.


Are you aware that child molestation is more about opportunity than gender? Do you think Jerry could shower with little girls and go unnoticed? Men who molest girls are usually family friends or babysitters. They have opportunity. What a maroon.
 
2012-08-13 12:28:07 PM

softshoes: What a maroon.


what an in-cow-poop
 
2012-08-13 12:43:18 PM
What I have learned from this thread:

Penn State is an Ivy League school.

The Ivy League is controlled by Catholics.

Having sex solely with little boys is considered molestation but it isn't gay because the victims don't give consent so that makes it okay.

Ditto for 15 year olds.

All of these child molesters get high positions in government and therefore are just as immune from prosecution like that South African dickhead in Lethal Weapon 2.

Every college believes their football program is sacred and the NCAA is so weak willed it will never ask for a total rehaul because money and politics and corruption and shut up this is the way it has always been.

I am getting restrainig orders on all you bastards.
 
2012-08-13 12:48:08 PM

rjakobi: What I have learned from this thread:

Penn State is an Ivy League school.

The Ivy League is controlled by Catholics.

Having sex solely with little boys is considered molestation but it isn't gay because the victims don't give consent so that makes it okay.

Ditto for 15 year olds.

All of these child molesters get high positions in government and therefore are just as immune from prosecution like that South African dickhead in Lethal Weapon 2.

Every college believes their football program is sacred and the NCAA is so weak willed it will never ask for a total rehaul because money and politics and corruption and shut up this is the way it has always been.

I am getting restrainig orders on all you bastards.


Welcome to my favorites list
 
2012-08-13 01:34:56 PM

GAT_00: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

Hmm, the English could be better on that.

Let me rephrase and elaborate. You are free to threaten, insult, demean and just generally abuse the entire institution for the actions of a select few who should be found and put on trial for their supposed crimes. However, if you should tell someone off, like telling off an Internet Tough Guy who said someone should shoot the fans that showed up to a practice to support the players, you will get deleted and banned. The post threatening violence will remain.

There is only one side allowed to these threads, and that is blaming the entire institution of Penn State for the actions of a few.


Well seeing as how an entire institution worked to cover up these crimes to save their precious football program, the entire University needs to be punished.

This isn't the first time people who had no involvement in the crime were punished in college athletics. Why is it such an issue now?
 
2012-08-13 01:37:17 PM

rjakobi:

Having sex solely with little boys is considered molestation but it isn't gay because the victims don't give consent so that makes it okay.


Molesting children is not OK, and nobody has said otherwise.

It is not "gay" because gay men are sexually attracted to other men. Child molesters are attracted to children. Adults and children are not the same thing.

Try to read for comprehension.
 
2012-08-13 06:46:13 PM

FloydA: rjakobi:

Having sex solely with little boys is considered molestation but it isn't gay because the victims don't give consent so that makes it okay.


Molesting children is not OK, and nobody has said otherwise.

It is not "gay" because gay men are sexually attracted to other men. Child molesters are attracted to children. Adults and children are not the same thing.

Try to read for comprehension.


Not only this (and it's sad I have to point this out in each and every farking thread of this type), but:

Persons who seek out and molest children are now being increasingly recognised as not being homosexual or heterosexual, but in fact having what amounts to a "pedosexual" orientation--they have no attraction towards male or female adults but have their primary sexual attraction to pre-pubescents who have not attained secondary sexual characteristics. Skews towards one gender or another are generally recognised as the particular group that the "pedosexual" has access to (in general in Western society, we don't let males lead all-female groups and vice versa and there still is some non-negligible segregation of the sexes in group activities that would give victimisation opportunities to a pedophile, so it often gives a false impression of same-sex attraction in cases where the "pedosexual" targets non-related victims; in cases where "pedosexuals" target underage victims within their own families, the ratio of victims is about 50/50 and any skew is a result of the main gender of underage victims in the family).

And yes, this is a true sexual orientation--tests show that "pedosexuals" show signs of sexual arousal with pictures of children in the exact same way that, say, a heterosexual person would show arousal at porny pics of the opposite sex or that gay or lesbian folks would show arousal at porny pics of the same sex (and how bisexual folks show arousal at both).

Pedophiliac orientation is (quite unlike adult same-sex and opposite-sex attraction) very harmful to the non-dominant, non-consenting party--which is why it's considered a legitimate mental illness or disability (the defining point of "disability" being "Does this actually hurt yourself or others or cause serious problems in functioning in society? If so, it's illness, if not, it's just weird").

(Incidentially, this is also why so many paedophiles are repeat offenders--it's every bit as impossible to "de-pedo" them as it is to "de-gay" someone who has a sexual orientation of same-gender attraction.)

Also, the fact that a pedophile is married doesn't disqualify them from being "pedosexual"; the phenomenon of "beards" in persons with same-gender sexual orientation is well known, and not only is it not unknown for pedosexuals to have "beards" but it's also not unknown for pedosexuals to seek out other pedosexuals for marriage (there is a surprisingly high rate, especially in cases where production of child pornography is concerned, where both partners in a marriage are participants in victimisation of pre-pubescent children).

Seriously, this is something that's been recognised in the scientific and particularly in the psychiatric community since the late sixties. I could point folks to some legitimate reading matter on the subject (as in not published by some dominionist "Christian alternative" to legitimate mental health and sociology associations but published by legitimate, recognised medical associations with actual peer review; no, Paul Cameron's "research" and material from NARTH, the "American College of Pediatricians" and/or the "Christian Medical and Dental Association" are not legitimate). :3
 
2012-08-13 08:21:07 PM

rjakobi: What I have learned from this thread:

Penn State is an Ivy League school.

The Ivy League is controlled by Catholics.

Having sex solely with little boys is considered molestation but it isn't gay because the victims don't give consent so that makes it okay.

Ditto for 15 year olds.

All of these child molesters get high positions in government and therefore are just as immune from prosecution like that South African dickhead in Lethal Weapon 2.

Every college believes their football program is sacred and the NCAA is so weak willed it will never ask for a total rehaul because money and politics and corruption and shut up this is the way it has always been.

I am getting restrainig orders on all you bastards.


I *was* going to get you the Disney Channel.
 
2012-08-13 11:01:08 PM

Great Porn Dragon: Seriously, this is something that's been recognised in the scientific and particularly in the psychiatric community since the late sixties. I could point folks to some legitimate reading matter on the subject (as in not published by some dominionist "Christian alternative" to legitimate mental health and sociology associations but published by legitimate, recognised medical associations with actual peer review


I would be very interested in those citations. I'm not a psychiatric professional, I'm an anthropologist, but those studies do have relevance to me. EIP thanks.
 
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