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(FanNation)   If you thought Jerry Sandusky's conviction, Joe Paterno's death, and NCAA sanctions were the end of the Penn State scandal, you're wrong. It's about to get *much* uglier   (fannation.com) divider line 180
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2012-08-12 02:30:21 PM
The sin of vanity is strong in this thread.
 
2012-08-12 02:30:51 PM

Orgasmatron138: WhyteRaven74: BTW the NCAA did reserve the right to amend their penalties against Penn State should further information come to light.

I can't believe they didn't kill the program for five years. I also can't believe Dottie Sandusky opened the Lash Building for football players and students to rally. There are a hell of a lot of people who should be doing just as much time as Jerry, and Dottie is at the top of that list.


Scratch that, it wasn't Dottie. She can still burn in hell, though.
 
2012-08-12 02:31:08 PM

jaylectricity: I called this the instant I heard about the boy in the shower.


who did you call and did you also hear rhythmic slap slap slapping sounds?
 
2012-08-12 02:32:54 PM

Outrageous Muff: The sin of vanity is strong in this thread.


What does this even mean? Do you think that sounds wise or something? You sound mildly retarded if so.
 
2012-08-12 02:33:14 PM

jaylectricity: I have this conversation with people and they accuse me of being jealous of the success of Penn State football.


Wait they do the accusation of you for being jealous of a team that has been at the very best the mediocre one for at least the past decade which is for those of you who are not familiar with this a period of ten years.
 
2012-08-12 02:33:17 PM

Confabulat: You know why? Institutionalized child rape.

People don't like that.


Careful now. A response like that will trigger some replies about calling us part of a "lynch mob" because we're nothing but mongoloids carrying pitchforks and blinded by anger. Clearly, we're all subhumans for not looking at institutionalized child rape with a nuanced flair as if it's something you should be able to discuss openly without rushing to judgement while twirling your moustache and sipping espresso with your friend Pierre as if topically, it carries the same weight as discussing your favorite impressionist painters or baroque composers.

I don't even know how to express my shame that I actually have an immediate strong, emotional response to child rape.
 
2012-08-12 02:33:52 PM

Triumph: If the pedo ring reaches into people of real power, it will go the way of the Franklin Scandal and you won't hear anything. The Second Mile has already been quietly shut down without public exposure of its inner workings...


Your tinfoil sales blog sucks.
 
2012-08-12 02:34:29 PM

GAT_00: Coco LaFemme: GAT_00: Coco LaFemme: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

The school's administration covered up the rape of children. Not the students, not the Organic Chemistry TA, but the school. As in, the administration, higher-ups, powers-that-be. I don't believe I've seen anyone accuse the students of being in on anything, or contributing to anything, or helping cover anything up. That said, when an institution farks up, the institution takes the hit. If some of these whiny assfarks had a modicum of self-awareness, they'd realize they personally aren't being victimized by any of this. Suzie Q who is getting a degree in Political Science isn't affected by this one iota. Her degree, her scholarship if she has one, her collegiate life....none of it is being ruined by the NCAA telling her school YOU CAN'T COVER UP THE RAPE OF CHILDREN AND THINK YOU'LL GET AWAY WITH IT.

That damn TA, personally covering up the crimes.

Did you even read what I said, or are you so jacked-up on your own self-importance that you didn't realize I WASN'T BLAMING TEACHERS OR STUDENTS FOR WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID? You literally responded to my post with the opposite of what I said. Either you didn't read it, or you have a standard, boiler-plate response to people who post in Penn State threads.

You're screaming at me through the computer for not automatically agreeing with everything you think, and you think I'm going to do anything but make fun of you?


Well for one, I'm not screaming AT you, I'm emphasizing key points you pathologically keep overlooking, like the fact that you're responding to what I say with the exact opposite of what I said....and that tends to irritate me. Two, look....I love my alma mater too, but if it hit the news tomorrow that the administration was responsible for covering up child rape on its premises, by people who worked for it.....I sure as fark wouldn't defend it. I'd be the first in line castigating it. Even the little old lady on my block who had a Penn State sticker on her mailbox took it off (her grandson goes there), so if the 88-year-old woman gets it, I think you're capable too.
 
2012-08-12 02:36:01 PM

Snail Jerky: jaylectricity: I called this the instant I heard about the boy in the shower.

who did you call and did you also hear rhythmic slap slap slapping sounds?


I called the girl with the dragon tattoo.

So you're freakin'... the furniture's squeakin'
She's tweakin' sayin' that she's weak in the knees
Cheek to cheek and pound for pound
You're taxin' it and waxin' it and workin' it around
'Til the booty starts makin' that clappin' sound
Which is cool but your friends are chillin' in the other room
The clappin's getting louder, you don't want them to clown you
In this situation, what do you do?
What?
A, you, plain and simply back up off her
B, you hit it just a little bit softer
C, you take it out and put it in her butt

Confabulat: jaylectricity: So many times I have this conversation with people and they accuse me of being jealous of the success of Penn State football.

These are the same people who are confused and upset that Penn State football is being punished for the actions of Penn State football and the cult around it. You can't talk to them like adults.


Hell, I didn't even know Penn State was a good team. I only mildly recall hearing the name Paterno on sports radio.
 
2012-08-12 02:36:09 PM

jaylectricity: called this the instant he heard about the boy in the shower.


meow said the dog: noted that basemetal did the pointing out of jaylectricity doing the calling of this the instant upon which it was heard by him that the boy was singing in the shower.


This all settles it. T'was foreseen and fortified foresight from the white wizards of the North.
 
2012-08-12 02:36:55 PM

meow said the dog: jaylectricity: I have this conversation with people and they accuse me of being jealous of the success of Penn State football.

Wait they do the accusation of you for being jealous of a team that has been at the very best the mediocre one for at least the past decade which is for those of you who are not familiar with this a period of ten years.


Exactly.
 
2012-08-12 02:36:58 PM
GAT_00: Want to show me where Harvard had something like this happen to match your false equivalence?


upload.wikimedia.org
corrupt and uppity about it, like Penn State

encrypted-tbn2.google.com
This place is actually worse than Penn State could ever hope to be. They teach all incoming Congressmen how to act.
Even the most honest souls are corrupted by their peculiar version of ethics.
 
2012-08-12 02:37:27 PM

Confabulat: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

You know why? Institutionalized child rape.

People don't like that.


Which I understand, but as I keep having to say, the university didn't rape anyone. One guy is known to have done it, and if this FBI thing goes anywhere, maybe a few more. And what's so hard about blaming the people who actually committed the crime?
 
2012-08-12 02:37:35 PM

Confabulat: What does this even mean? Do you think that sounds wise or something? You sound mildly retarded if so.


It is vanity to proclaim one's superiority on a matter that does not effect oneself.
 
2012-08-12 02:38:10 PM
If I had a sticker, Penn State or otherwise, on my mailbox I'd be in violation of my HOA covenants.
 
2012-08-12 02:41:19 PM
Ray Gricar
 
2012-08-12 02:45:40 PM

GAT_00: Confabulat: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

You know why? Institutionalized child rape.

People don't like that.

Which I understand, but as I keep having to say, the university didn't rape anyone. One guy is known to have done it, and if this FBI thing goes anywhere, maybe a few more. And what's so hard about blaming the people who actually committed the crime?


It doesn't matter to you that that is EXACTLY what we've been doing this entire time.

What is so difficult, in your mind, about wanting to cut down some of the power of the institution that made raping children for over 14 years so easy for this monster? Why is that so wrong?

/wait, don't answer that
//you're ignoring me
 
2012-08-12 02:45:56 PM

Outrageous Muff: Confabulat: What does this even mean? Do you think that sounds wise or something? You sound mildly retarded if so.

It is vanity to proclaim one's superiority on a matter that does not effect oneself.


Well I better stop commenting on the day's news then. Hate to be vain and everything with an opinion.
 
2012-08-12 02:47:39 PM

gameshowhost: Also, you're being very silly right now, GAT_00.


It's definitely going to make me question his opinions more in the politics tab.
 
2012-08-12 02:48:11 PM

Confabulat: Outrageous Muff: Confabulat: What does this even mean? Do you think that sounds wise or something? You sound mildly retarded if so.

It is vanity to proclaim one's superiority on a matter that does not effect oneself.

Well I better stop commenting on the day's news then. Hate to be vain and everything with an opinion.


How cute. Outrageous Muff is looking down his nose at us while committing the same "sin" he's accusing everyone in this thread of.
 
2012-08-12 02:49:09 PM

commieprogressive: gameshowhost: Also, you're being very silly right now, GAT_00.

It's definitely going to make me question his opinions more in the politics tab.


Same here. He's usually somewhat well-reasoned, and he'shiat the nail right on the head in a few other threads this morning. But introduce him to a Penn State thread and he goes full-wharrgarbl
 
2012-08-12 02:49:18 PM

GAT_00: and if this FBI thing goes anywhere, maybe a few more.


If this FBI thing goes places, then PSU would actually deserve the death penalty. (If boosters giving money to players gets you banned, prostituting anyone to boosters to entice donations should definitely get you banned.)

/whatever happened to banging coeds?
 
2012-08-12 02:49:37 PM

GAT_00: Confabulat: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

You know why? Institutionalized child rape.

People don't like that.

Which I understand, but as I keep having to say, the university didn't rape anyone. One guy is known to have done it, and if this FBI thing goes anywhere, maybe a few more. And what's so hard about blaming the people who actually committed the crime?



Sandusky committed the rapes.

The administration committed the cover up.

Some of the students and alumni created the climate of cult-like following of the football team that inspired the administrators to engage in the cover up. If the administration had been less worried about tarnishing the team's reputation, they would have busted Sandusky much earlier and not tried to sweep it under the rug.

Nobody is blaming you, personally, but you have to admit that a lot of farked up things went on. When any institution is treated as though it cannot be questioned, abuses of authority are bound to happen.
 
2012-08-12 02:52:31 PM
americayouaskedforit.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-12 02:56:56 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: commieprogressive: gameshowhost: Also, you're being very silly right now, GAT_00.

It's definitely going to make me question his opinions more in the politics tab.

Same here. He's usually somewhat well-reasoned, and he'shiat the nail right on the head in a few other threads this morning. But introduce him to a Penn State thread and he goes full-wharrgarbl


You guys should check out Gat in a marijuana thread. He is very pro drug war.
 
2012-08-12 02:57:32 PM

Outrageous Muff: Triumph: If the pedo ring reaches into people of real power, it will go the way of the Franklin Scandal and you won't hear anything. The Second Mile has already been quietly shut down without public exposure of its inner workings...

Your tinfoil sales blog sucks.


Is my tinfoil video more entertaining?
 
2012-08-12 02:58:34 PM

GAT_00: Which I understand, but as I keep having to say, the university didn't rape anyone. One guy is known to have done it, and if this FBI thing goes anywhere, maybe a few more. And what's so hard about blaming the people who actually committed the crime?


The public might be singing a different tune had the PSU "community", if you will, reacted with a little more vigor in regards to demanding the full story and with perhaps less vigor in trying to protect the sanctity of the football program.

It might not be fair to lump in every State College resident with the 19 year olds flipping over news trucks when Paterno got fired, but all in all, they created the perception that they care most about football on their own.
 
2012-08-12 02:59:26 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Did anyone think this was isolated? Seriously?

The University Administration was involved in the cover-up. It's not at all surprising to learn that boosters are also involved in the crimes. I'd be very unsurprised current employees of Penn State, past employees, coaches and any number of other folks associated with Penn State had to do with this.


The protection of Sandusky made no sense from a risk management perspective. Sure Paterno might have done it out of misguided loyalty and lack of morals, but protecting an above average D-Coord (who you are forcing into retirement anyway) isn't worth it. Someone would have leaked this over to the BoT or the like and had them fire the guy even if Paterno blocked it. The only real reason you cover this up so intensely is because you're afraid of what else the police find when they start digging around Sandusky's actions.

/can you imagine if Paterno is listed as someone who took part in the kiddie porn/rape ring?
 
2012-08-12 03:00:35 PM

GAT_00: Confabulat: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

You know why? Institutionalized child rape.

People don't like that.

Which I understand, but as I keep having to say, the university didn't rape anyone. One guy is known to have done it, and if this FBI thing goes anywhere, maybe a few more. And what's so hard about blaming the people who actually committed the crime?


I really hope you're trolling. Otherwise, read both grand jury reports and the Freeh report. You will sound so less stupid.
 
2012-08-12 03:01:34 PM

ha-ha-guy: Benevolent Misanthrope: Did anyone think this was isolated? Seriously?

The University Administration was involved in the cover-up. It's not at all surprising to learn that boosters are also involved in the crimes. I'd be very unsurprised current employees of Penn State, past employees, coaches and any number of other folks associated with Penn State had to do with this.

The protection of Sandusky made no sense from a risk management perspective. Sure Paterno might have done it out of misguided loyalty and lack of morals, but protecting an above average D-Coord (who you are forcing into retirement anyway) isn't worth it. Someone would have leaked this over to the BoT or the like and had them fire the guy even if Paterno blocked it. The only real reason you cover this up so intensely is because you're afraid of what else the police find when they start digging around Sandusky's actions.

/can you imagine if Paterno is listed as someone who took part in the kiddie porn/rape ring?


This is a little peek into why Jerry was allowed to run wild:

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/12/05/120511-news-paterno-business- 1 -5/
 
2012-08-12 03:02:25 PM

GAT_00: GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.

Hmm, the English could be better on that.

Let me rephrase and elaborate. You are free to threaten, insult, demean and just generally abuse the entire institution for the actions of a select few who should be found and put on trial for their supposed crimes. However, if you should tell someone off, like telling off an Internet Tough Guy who said someone should shoot the fans that showed up to a practice to support the players, you will get deleted and banned. The post threatening violence will remain.

There is only one side allowed to these threads, and that is blaming the entire institution of Penn State for the actions of a few.


Most of the people at Enron had nothing to do with the insane scandal. It sucks that they got caught up in it. But as a whole, Enron had to pay for the damage caused by Ken Lay and his cronies.

It ain't pretty but that's what happened. And that's what is happening at Penn State. The fact is that as bad as they are, the punishments against the school as a whole could have been a lot worse. The NCAA went easier than they could have in an attempt to not destroy the school for the actions of the superiors.

Why do we (not just Fark, but the general populace) go after some, but not all, of the Penn State students as being self-important apologist douchebags? Because some, but not all, of the Penn State students are self-important apologist douchebags. Rather than making the slightest effort to understand what a horrible series of crimes occurred on their campus, from the initial rapes to the massive cover-up by all the people who decided that the football program and the school's good name was more important that the lost innocence of the children so horribly abused by Jerry Sandusky, the prevailing theme has been about how this is so totally unfair to the school, Joe Paterno and his legacy, and the students currently there.

That is why the entire institution is threatened (as you say), insulted, demeaned and just generally abused.
 
2012-08-12 03:02:50 PM

Orgasmatron138: I really hope you're trolling. Otherwise, read both grand jury reports and the Freeh report. You will sound so less stupid.


No way, man. Dottie Sandusky and Jay Paterno are the real truth-seekers here. I mean, I certainly can't fathom them having any bias.
 
2012-08-12 03:07:16 PM

ha-ha-guy: The protection of Sandusky made no sense from a risk management perspective. Sure Paterno might have done it out of misguided loyalty and lack of morals, but protecting an above average D-Coord (who you are forcing into retirement anyway) isn't worth it.


People aren't logical. I doubt Paterno would've lifted a finger to protect Sandusky, however loyal the guy was, if he didn't have a massive ego to begin with. He covered it up because he was one of the most powerful men in the state and knew it. Read his non-apology apologies and you'll see just how unrepetant he was, to his dying day. He acted like the University needed his permission to fire him.

TL;DR: JoePa had a massive ego, and ego leads to anything but logical behavior.
 
2012-08-12 03:07:36 PM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: the prevailing theme has been about how this is so totally unfair to the school, Joe Paterno and his legacy, and the students currently there.


Or put another way, when they heard what was going on and that Paterno was being fired instead being angry at Paterno and what happened under his watch, they decided to riot.
 
2012-08-12 03:10:20 PM

dragonchild: He acted like the University needed his permission to fire him.


He didn't just act like the University needed his permission, when the AD tried to fire a few years back basically told the AD he couldn't fire him.
 
2012-08-12 03:10:23 PM

GAT_00:
The Ivy League fits a traditional definition of conservative. They are very opposed to change and exist only to ensure their own survival./i>

Wanna know we know you don't know what you're talking about?

upload.wikimedia.org

Princeton

upload.wikimedia.org

Princeton

upload.wikimedia.org

Harvard

upload.wikimedia.org

Harvard


upload.wikimedia.org

Yale


upload.wikimedia.org

Yale

upload.wikimedia.org


Princeton, Yale, MIT


Yep: Ivy league is a den of conservative values known for putting sports above academics.

 
2012-08-12 03:11:08 PM
Easy, just find the nearest Catholic church and start asking questions
 
2012-08-12 03:13:16 PM

drivingsouth: Hey FBI, welcome to the party. This story has been kicking around PA for a while. About a year ago, it was reported first by Sarah Ganim in the Harrisburg Patriot-News & then by Mark Madden in The Beaver County Times that Sandusky may have been acting as a pimp for big-time donors who happened to also like taking showers with little boys.


Why would you put trust in any publication called the Beaver County Times? Really? You'd be better off with the French Lick Tribune as a source.
 
2012-08-12 03:13:38 PM
GAT_00: sorry about that: was aimed at Godscrack:
 
2012-08-12 03:25:46 PM

GAT_00: Krymson Tyde: The apologists are late getting here. Come on guys, we need to be lectured about how unfair all of this is to Penn State.

Well, I could offer an opinion, but I get deleted in these threads when they do. You're not allowed to defend Penn State at all on here anymore. It's pure 24/7 hate.


Most of us have read your opinion, its comes off less as an opinion and more of a troll because nobody could be that dense.
 
2012-08-12 03:31:41 PM
For what it's worth, Penn State had been considered one of the "Public Ivies" for a long time.

As for the pedophile ring...

Didn't Mark Madden say something like this was going to come out?
 
2012-08-12 03:44:36 PM

UNC_Samurai: For what it's worth, Penn State had been considered one of the "Public Ivies" for a long time.


I think you're confusing Pedo State for Penn, which is very much a member of the Ivy League.

To be mistaken for Ivy League you have to have some serious academic snobcred. Pedo State isn't bad, but it'd take quite a bit of stupid to mistake it for Ivy League.
 
2012-08-12 03:45:43 PM
I have a feeling that there is going to be a whole rash of prosecutors going missing and their laptops are going to be found smashed and the hard drives removed.
 
2012-08-12 03:54:31 PM

UNC_Samurai: For what it's worth, Penn State had been considered one of the "Public Ivies" for a long time.


In Penn state's case:

Public : Ivy :: Special : Olympics.
 
2012-08-12 03:56:13 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Coco LaFemme: Either you didn't read it, or you have a standard, boiler-plate response to people who post in Penn State threads.

It's the latter. It's as though he's not actually here to listen to what anybody has to say, he's already got his own idea of How Things Are that he absolutely refuses to let go of.


You just described how he posts on every topic.
 
2012-08-12 04:04:04 PM

UNC_Samurai: For what it's worth, Penn State had been considered one of the "Public Ivies" for a long time.

As for the pedophile ring...

Didn't Mark Madden say something like this was going to come out?


Public Ivies? LOL

We have all the state school representation we need from Penn and Cornell
 
2012-08-12 04:07:05 PM

dragonchild: UNC_Samurai: For what it's worth, Penn State had been considered one of the "Public Ivies" for a long time.

I think you're confusing Pedo State for Penn, which is very much a member of the Ivy League.

To be mistaken for Ivy League you have to have some serious academic snobcred. Pedo State isn't bad, but it'd take quite a bit of stupid to mistake it for Ivy League.


When Richard Moll (not that one, the scholar) published The Public Ivys: A Guide to America's Best Undergraduate Colleges and Universities, Penn State was not on the original list; It was, however, among "a list of worthy runners-up".

The original list was William & Mary, Miami-Ohio, Berkeley, Michigan, Chapel Hill, UT-Austin, Vermont, and UVA. The runners-up were Colorado, Georgia Tech, Illinois, New College of Florida, Penn State, Pitt, Binghamton, Washington, and Wisconsin.

The Greene's guides have always put Penn State on their list of public ivies as well.
 
2012-08-12 04:11:51 PM

WhyteRaven74: Coco LaFemme: or contributing to anything,

Well there was that riot when Paterno was fired. And a few students may have had a hand in hounding the first victim to come forward so bad he's in witness protection.


You hit it on the head. Both of those stories were nauseating. Had to go hug my dog after reading them.
 
2012-08-12 04:12:36 PM
Now I get an idea of why Erickson was so eager to take what Emmert was offering.
 
2012-08-12 04:14:42 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Just like the Catholics homosexuals- it's not only the rape, it's the aiding and abetting. It's the culture that accepts this and covers for the perpetrators.


If the perp and the victims are the same gender, then it's homosexual pedophilia. Remember that while bashing the Catholics.
You think any of those criminals would act different elsewhere?
Or you can just ignore that part of the problem and wonder why it continues.
Why is it an adult man finds a male child appealing?
If you're not going to let them hide behind Catholicism, don't let them hide behind homosexuality either.
/not Catholic
 
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