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(Electronic Privacy Info Center)   Note to the White House: Remember that whole petition website you have to pretend you're giving the people a voice? The illusion doesn't work if you pull down petition you don't like   (epic.org) divider line 157
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2012-08-13 02:40:41 AM
both sides bad!

/duh

(D) or (R). it doesn't matter.

unsustainable wars
unsustainable economics
unsustainable social programs
eternal derp

ALL bipartisan
 
2012-08-13 02:25:23 PM

Kid the Universe: both sides bad!

/duh

(D) or (R). it doesn't matter.

unsustainable wars
unsustainable economics
unsustainable social programs
eternal derp

ALL bipartisan


SO VOTE REPUBLICAN!
 
2012-08-13 11:14:17 PM

Without Fail: Kid the Universe: both sides bad!

/duh

(D) or (R). it doesn't matter.

unsustainable wars
unsustainable economics
unsustainable social programs
eternal derp

ALL bipartisan

SO VOTE REPUBLICAN!


Without Fail: Kid the Universe: both sides bad!

/duh

(D) or (R). it doesn't matter.

unsustainable wars
unsustainable economics
unsustainable social programs
eternal derp

ALL bipartisan

SO VOTE REPUBLICAN!


i have never voted for either party in any election ever. if more people rejected the two-party trick then maybe we would have better leaders

keep toeing the party line there you dutiful slave
 
2012-08-13 11:21:06 PM

Kid the Universe: if more people rejected the two-party trick then maybe we would have better leaders


If more people realized the two party system is an illusion and doesn't actually matter, we'd get past the "two party trick" mentality.
 
2012-08-14 06:20:01 AM

vygramul: Kid the Universe: if more people rejected the two-party trick then maybe we would have better leaders

If more people realized the two party system is an illusion and doesn't actually matter, we'd get past the "two party trick" mentality.


The only reason it matters is mainly because of the overwhelming number of people who use it. So in essence, it really isn't an illusion so much as a construct of the people you claim are deluded. But they can't be, because it's right there. Your point is a self defeating argument, which sort of explains why the "third party makes everything okay trick" mentality has trouble sticking.
 
2012-08-14 10:24:57 AM

thamike: vygramul: Kid the Universe: if more people rejected the two-party trick then maybe we would have better leaders

If more people realized the two party system is an illusion and doesn't actually matter, we'd get past the "two party trick" mentality.

The only reason it matters is mainly because of the overwhelming number of people who use it. So in essence, it really isn't an illusion so much as a construct of the people you claim are deluded. But they can't be, because it's right there. Your point is a self defeating argument, which sort of explains why the "third party makes everything okay trick" mentality has trouble sticking.


When a parliamentary system forms a government, you end up with, effectively, two sides: the coalition government, and the opposition. (Yes, yes, you can have single-parties being large enough to form the government on their own.) In effect, you end up with two parties. The differences are largely on where the negotiations take place. In the U.S. system, the negotiations take place within the two parties as to what the platforms will be. In the UK, the negotiation is more public. But in the end, the platform doesn't include issues that don't have enough support.

It's easy to get frustrated and think that, if only a third party was pushing a given agenda, it would manifest in government. But with only a few exceptions, they really wouldn't. The world of politics is the world of the high school clique, and it is tremendously disappointing to go into it as an idealist - but the two-party system is not the problem.
 
2012-08-14 05:58:01 PM

vygramul: but the two-party system is not the problem.


That's what I said. i guess that's what you said.
 
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