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2012-08-12 08:32:18 AM
Included in the data collected by Myers and her team: congressional voting records, an exhaustive questionnaire and "several years" of tax returns -- she did not say how many.

Huh. So I guess tax returns are necessary to vet someone for the office.

Good to know.
 
2012-08-12 09:10:41 AM

Lando Lincoln: Included in the data collected by Myers and her team: congressional voting records, an exhaustive questionnaire and "several years" of tax returns -- she did not say how many.

Huh. So I guess tax returns are necessary to vet someone for the office.

Good to know.


Came to point that out as well.
 
2012-08-12 09:42:29 AM
dtdstudios.com
 
2012-08-12 09:59:40 AM

Lando Lincoln: Included in the data collected by Myers and her team: congressional voting records, an exhaustive questionnaire and "several years" of tax returns -- she did not say how many.

Huh. So I guess tax returns are necessary to vet someone for the office.

Good to know.


Romney gave something like 20 years of returns to McCain when he was being vetted as VP.

Then McCain picked Sarah Palin.
 
2012-08-12 10:11:41 AM
That article was almost as boring as Romney himself.
 
2012-08-12 10:22:21 AM
Yeah, I think we all guessed that.
 
2012-08-12 10:22:25 AM

GAT_00: Romney gave something like 20 years of returns to McCain when he was being vetted as VP.

Then McCain picked Sarah Palin.



That could be the very reason Rmoney is refusing to release his. For all the things that McCain is stupid isn't one of them,not counting him choosing Palin of course. I'm just thrilled he picked Ryan because ahahahaah it's like farking christmas come early and I got a big box of lulz.

/It's exactly what I wanted.
 
2012-08-12 10:22:42 AM

GAT_00: Lando Lincoln: Included in the data collected by Myers and her team: congressional voting records, an exhaustive questionnaire and "several years" of tax returns -- she did not say how many.

Huh. So I guess tax returns are necessary to vet someone for the office.

Good to know.

Romney gave something like 20 years of returns to McCain when he was being vetted as VP.

Then McCain picked Sarah Palin.


Good God. The horrors they must have seen in those returns. My guess is that the money is not in offshore accounts, but rather some pocket universe created by Bain scientists.
 
hej
2012-08-12 10:23:09 AM
I'm less interested in "how" he kept it a secret, and more about "why". It's not like he's running around in a black turtleneck unveiling the new iDevice.
 
2012-08-12 10:24:17 AM
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2012-08-12 10:24:49 AM
"I had one directive: The candidates must be qualified to take office on day one," Myers said of her appointment to head the VP search.

Too bad the Republicans didn't have the same requirement.
 
2012-08-12 10:25:03 AM
chief vetter Beth Myers


...probably has developed a drinking problem and ulcers.
 
2012-08-12 10:26:47 AM
Am I alone in thinking this Ryan pick has generated less excitement than one would have thought.

Maybe it's just because they announced it right as I woke up yesterday morning and I've had a lot of other shiat going on, maybe it's the Olympics, or maybe I'm just wrong. But it seems to me they'd have been hoping for more buzz than this is currently getting.

Then you add to that the Romney campaign talking points about how they are going to disavow the Ryan budget (or try to) and I'm just left with a big 'meh' over the whole thing.
 
2012-08-12 10:27:35 AM

GAT_00: Lando Lincoln: Included in the data collected by Myers and her team: congressional voting records, an exhaustive questionnaire and "several years" of tax returns -- she did not say how many.

Huh. So I guess tax returns are necessary to vet someone for the office.

Good to know.

Romney gave something like 20 years of returns to McCain when he was being vetted as VP.

Then McCain picked Sarah Palin.


Romney is a joke and he should absolutely release his returns, but McCain didn't pick him because he hated him, just like every other politician who ran against him. It had nothing to do with his returns.
 
2012-08-12 10:29:37 AM
-Rmoney got to see rAyn's tax returns. Do we?
-If we get to see rAyn's, why don't we get to see Rmoney's?
-If we don't get to see any more than we already have, why not?

Obama's team is going to have a field day with this.
 
2012-08-12 10:31:39 AM

Shrugging Atlas: Am I alone in thinking this Ryan pick has generated less excitement than one would have thought.

Maybe it's just because they announced it right as I woke up yesterday morning and I've had a lot of other shiat going on, maybe it's the Olympics, or maybe I'm just wrong. But it seems to me they'd have been hoping for more buzz than this is currently getting.

Then you add to that the Romney campaign talking points about how they are going to disavow the Ryan budget (or try to) and I'm just left with a big 'meh' over the whole thing.


I'm already bored of him. I'm hoping some the Dems find some sort of scandal he was involved in so that my Monday is more interesting.
 
2012-08-12 10:33:07 AM
I didn't think this link would get green lit on its own so I'll just leave it here. Holy farking herrp a derp. Link
 
2012-08-12 10:33:21 AM

Drubell: I'm already bored of him. I'm hoping some the Dems find some sort of scandal he was involved in so that my Monday is more interesting.


Well if nothing else Romney is guaranteed to say or do something stupid between now and then, so we'll have that at least for the next 88 days or so. Oddly I'm not yet bored with that.
 
2012-08-12 10:33:26 AM

Shrugging Atlas: Am I alone in thinking this Ryan pick has generated less excitement than one would have thought.

Maybe it's just because they announced it right as I woke up yesterday morning and I've had a lot of other shiat going on, maybe it's the Olympics, or maybe I'm just wrong. But it seems to me they'd have been hoping for more buzz than this is currently getting.

Then you add to that the Romney campaign talking points about how they are going to disavow the Ryan budget (or try to) and I'm just left with a big 'meh' over the whole thing.


You're not alone. Even the right wing radio shills here in Phoenix are having trouble getting excited.

Everyone was mostly stating "thanks for handing Barack the Islamic Shock a second term!"
 
2012-08-12 10:35:20 AM
Even the rollout was an example of both a flawlessly executed bit of secrecy and stagecraft and improvisation when events did not go as the campaign planned. Myers told reporters the Romney campaign originally planned to announce the pick Friday in New Hampshire, but with Ryan attending a memorial service for the victims of a shooting at a Sikh temple in his district, the plans were changed to Saturday.

The original plan was to disclose the VP pick, which traditionally results in a boost in the polls, on a Friday news cycle dump during the Olympics. The improvised plan was to disclose the VP pick at 9:00 EDT on a Saturday when half the country was asleep. By Monday, the right wing echo chamber will already be out of steam. Flawless, indeed.
 
2012-08-12 10:35:32 AM
How did they do it? Romney campaign explains how it kept the biggest secret in politics

Did they do it? Romney campaign plants story of how they really really really vetted their pick
 
2012-08-12 10:36:18 AM

magores: -Rmoney got to see rAyn's tax returns. Do we?
-If we get to see rAyn's, why don't we get to see Rmoney's?
-If we don't get to see any more than we already have, why not?

Obama's team is going to have a field day with this.


rAYN has disavowed her because she was an atheist, but has kept her philosphy.
 
2012-08-12 10:37:30 AM

PanicMan: chief vetter Beth Myers


...probably has developed a drinking problem and ulcers.


Looks fine to me.

www.cbc.ca

// R.I.P.
 
2012-08-12 10:37:33 AM
Throughout the process, Myers said, one thing was clear: "This was Mitt's decision."

Just look at whatever a political operative wants to emphasize and you'll find the lie.
 
2012-08-12 10:38:04 AM

Altitude5280: I didn't think this link would get green lit on its own so I'll just leave it here. Holy farking herrp a derp. Link


That's too bad that FR is losing their moderators over an intramural dustup. How sad/.
 
2012-08-12 10:38:27 AM
Is he white?

Did he say yes?

Shiat, they could have asked me and at least gotten some shock value.
 
2012-08-12 10:38:50 AM

Boxcutta: "I had one directive: The candidates must be qualified to take office on day one," Myers said of her appointment to head the VP search.

Too bad the Republicans didn't have the same requirement.


*sad trombone*
 
2012-08-12 10:40:40 AM
Everyone said no? Even Jar of Mayonnaise?!
 
2012-08-12 10:43:46 AM
I got a call. Told Mittens sorry, not interested. You didn't?
 
2012-08-12 10:44:49 AM

Shrugging Atlas: Am I alone in thinking this Ryan pick has generated less excitement than one would have thought.
Maybe it's just because they announced it right as I woke up yesterday morning and I've had a lot of other shiat going on, maybe it's the Olympics, or maybe I'm just wrong. But it seems to me they'd have been hoping for more buzz than this is currently getting.
Then you add to that the Romney campaign talking points about how they are going to disavow the Ryan budget (or try to) and I'm just left with a big 'meh' over the whole thing.


Romney leaked his VP pick late on a Friday. Usually in politics that's when you release something you'd rather hide, because it will get less coverage.
If he was hoping for a bump from this, he did it in the weirdest way possible.
 
2012-08-12 10:46:46 AM

Altitude5280: I didn't think this link would get green lit on its own so I'll just leave it here. Holy farking herrp a derp. Link


Holy fark, Batman! I wasn't ready for that before my morning coffee. Interesting to see that they want to purge out the mormons in their ranks.
 
2012-08-12 10:46:58 AM
Romney campaign explains how it kept the biggest secret in politics

Nice hyperbole there. This wasn't the biggest secret in politics. It wasn't even the biggest secret about Mitt Romney. And it wasn't even successfully kept secret; the news hit the web before it was supposed to be broken via the app a bunch of Romney supporters downloaded specifically to be the first to receive the news.

TFA: Even the rollout was an example of both a flawlessly executed bit of secrecy and stagecraft and improvisation when events did not go as the campaign planned.

Ugh. This "article" is just NBC giving the Romney campaign a greasy handjob.
 
2012-08-12 10:47:29 AM
The biggest secret in politics? Really??

These people take themselves entirely too seriously.
 
2012-08-12 10:49:24 AM

James F. Campbell: Everyone said no? Even Jar of Mayonnaise?!


Everyone said no.
tpssvoice.com
Even Vermin Supreme turned Mittens down. I guess he didn't want to be pegged as a loonie.

/So, will Ryan be sharing his tax returns with us?
 
2012-08-12 10:49:40 AM
Old people vote, Ryan wants to cut their benefits.
I realize that some will vote Tea Party right wing against those damn Dhimmicrat left wing radicals no matter what, but I don't see anyone else getting too excited about this.
/cept Dems
 
2012-08-12 10:50:52 AM
The wheels on the GOP short bus continue to fall off.
 
2012-08-12 10:50:53 AM

whatsupchuck: The biggest secret in politics? Really??

These people take themselves entirely too seriously.


Wouldn't the contents of Mitt's returns be a slightly better held secret?
 
2012-08-12 10:51:11 AM
"Even the rollout was an example of both a flawlessly executed bit of secrecy and stagecraft"


Yeah, making the announcement over the Olympics finale weekend, when all the Monday morning papers above-the-fold pictures are going to be of the Closing Ceremony and the US medal success.

Great bit of well thought-out stagecraft.
 
2012-08-12 10:54:06 AM

Kurmudgeon: Old people vote, Ryan wants to cut their benefits.
I realize that some will vote Tea Party right wing against those damn Dhimmicrat left wing radicals no matter what, but I don't see anyone else getting too excited about this.
/cept Dems


Old people are old enough not to be affected by the cuts. When my mother brought up Ryan's plan to completely change Medicare, my step-father's response was "That's just democrat propaganda. We're over 50, so Medicare isn't going to change at all for us."

I'm sure there are plenty of old folks who also have the attitude of "Fark you, I've got mine".
 
2012-08-12 10:54:57 AM

Kurmudgeon: Old people vote, Ryan wants to cut their benefits.
I realize that some will vote Tea Party right wing against those damn Dhimmicrat left wing radicals no matter what, but I don't see anyone else getting too excited about this.
/cept Dems


The voucher based insurance company give away is (currently) only scheduled to destroy medicare for people under 55
 
2012-08-12 10:55:00 AM
I figured it out. I know why Romney was forced to pick Ryan: because this is how the Republicans are going to make a move back to the center.

2012 has to be the end of the Teabaggers/Base/'Social Conservative' wing of the party. They can't go on like this, upsetting the rich getting their tax cuts. So, the Republicans throw this election but with a caveat: they show how toxic the social conservatives really are and use this election to bash them over the heads. "Yeah, you see, you ran on this and LOST. Therefore, it's no longer a viable way to run whatever you people are running. So you go over there and make your third party and--yeah, sure, the Republican Party is YOUR party, whatever--and do whatever you want to do. But the party is going in a new direction because you failed. Yes, you did fail. Romney was a liberal who adapted your philosophy to the letter and took on a VP you all chose. And what happened? The black president won handily, yet again, because of you. And we don't need that losing attitude in the new Republican Party."

I won't say it'll be successful, and it'll be the opening for the Republican Party to go into the wilderness to find holes they can jam into so they can start the long way of reprocessing their viewpoints (as well as giving corporations enough time to cut and run, leaving the Democrats to fix the country), but it seems we're at that point. 2011 had the Republicans cutting Teabagger funding. 2012 will see the Teabaggers being responsible for a humiliating Republican defeat.

Romney will retiring shortly afterwards, and Ryan will get a nice cushy job for a while until he medically retires. And that'll be that.
 
2012-08-12 10:55:01 AM

NeoCortex42: Wouldn't the contents of Mitt's returns be a slightly better held secret?


And his $100M IRA, his Cayman Island and Swiss bank accounts, his involvement at Bain Capital during the time he was "retroactively retired", etc. Hell, he's keeping a tighter lid on his own political history as a moderate than he did this "secret".
 
2012-08-12 10:55:13 AM
Wrong Paul 2012
 
2012-08-12 10:56:12 AM

Bungles: "Even the rollout was an example of both a flawlessly executed bit of secrecy and stagecraft"


Yeah, making the announcement over the Olympics finale weekend, when all the Monday morning papers above-the-fold pictures are going to be of the Closing Ceremony and the US medal success.

Great bit of well thought-out stagecraft.


Hey, he's making the front of the Sunday paper. Check out how enthusiastic the Miami Herald is about it.

webmedia.newseum.org

/Oops
 
2012-08-12 10:57:19 AM
The article title is interesting: How did they do it? Romney campaign explains how it kept the biggest secret in politics

They should explain why they decided to keep the rollout secret as well. They announce it late in the evening on a Friday with absolutely zero advanced warning, and hold the event at 6 PST the next farking morning. Nobody was expecting it now, which means there was no anticipation.

It's in the middle of the Olympics. Plus it's far enough away from the Convention that they won't dominate the news with the story until then, so they'll actually go into the convention facing the same questions as before (Bain, tax returns, etc) with the added bonus of the Ryan budget hanging around their neck regardless of the Romney campaign saying they they are going to disavow it which leads to the quesiton why they chose this jagoff to begin with.

I'd like them to explain why they held the event in front of a decomissioned warship as well. If they wanted the name Wisconsin in the event, why the fark not hold it...in Wisconsin? Was it to highlight their vast foreign policy experience? Their plan to RAISE the defense budget? Were they just scared off by the Sikh shootings that happened in Ryan's district and the desire to not hold a 'celebration' so close to the site of that tragedy? If so, why not admit that and seem empathetic for one farking day.

This entire thing is amateurish to the point thinking people should find it offensive.

One final note: Keep the day/time of the VP announcement in the back of your mind. When/if Romney does finally release his tax returns it will be interesting to see how close the timing of both things are.
 
2012-08-12 10:57:30 AM

Devo: Wrong Paul 2012


Aren't you just the cutest thing? As if there's a right one!
 
2012-08-12 10:59:27 AM

Altitude5280: I didn't think this link would get green lit on its own so I'll just leave it here. Holy farking herrp a derp. Link


The freeper community is fracturing internally. This kind of thing always happens with purity tests. If only there was some sort of historical precedent they could take note of.
 
2012-08-12 11:00:38 AM

Guntram Shatterhand: I figured it out. I know why Romney was forced to pick Ryan: because this is how the Republicans are going to make a move back to the center.


The only way this election could work to reduce the effect of the teabaggers is if the ticket was some combination of Ryan and Santorum. As the ticket is now, the excuse will be that Romney lost the election in spite of having the benefit of Ryan on his ticket. They'll just put someone like Ryan at the top of the ticket next time to compensate.

Even if Obama wins (which is very likely, but not a given), there is still a real question about Congress. If things don't change much, then we get four more years of even more vitriolic stonewalling. If the GOP took over both the House and the Senate, we would end up with four years of Obama being forced to veto an unprecedented number of bills (leading to a GOP president in 2016).
 
2012-08-12 11:00:42 AM
fta "I had one directive: The candidates must be qualified to take office on day one," Myers said

Ryan's only private-sector experience is driving the Weinermobile and earning $1,800 bucks from his family's business, he has no military experience, he has no foreign relations experience, etc. Ryan is nothing more than one-trick-pony extremist Ideologue who is only on the ticket because Romney is a weak and unconvincing candidate. This is exactly why McCain chose Palin. The Republican party has had 4 YEARS to come up with something, and THIS is the best you could do? Face it, you're party is nothing more than slogans and bumper stickers.
 
2012-08-12 11:01:24 AM

Mrtraveler01: webmedia.newseum.org


FYFP: a stance anathema to many Cuban Americans

That's not how you use that word. It's not an adjective.
 
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