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(Dlisted)   Bret Easton Ellis decided he liked the attention he got from complaining about Matt Bomer playing straight, has moved on to criticizing NPH and "the gay Big Bang Theory"   (dlisted.com) divider line 67
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2012-08-12 12:31:23 AM
Self loathing attention whore is self loathing attention whore.
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2012-08-12 12:58:31 AM
Who the fark is Bret Easton Ellis?

NO ONE farkS WITH NPH. YOU GOT THAT ELLIS? NPH IS UNTOUCHABLE.
 
j4x
2012-08-12 03:25:03 AM
Bret Easton Ellis is right.

But of course everyone will slam him because Neil Patrick Harris has created a stupid, memetic cult of personality and internet nerds jizz their pants over how "epic" he is, which MBK has perfectly exhibited above me.
 
2012-08-12 03:39:26 AM

j4x: Bret Easton Ellis is right.

a moran.

FTFY.

It's called acting. You know, where people play roles and pretend to be something that they're not.

Until I hear him complaining that Christian Bale doesn't actually like to dismember people in his apartment, he should just shut the fark up.
 
2012-08-12 08:41:42 AM
How can "The Big Bang Theory" be gay? It's lead character is asexual. The little hetero and homo sextard explosions go off all around him, but he continues blithely unaware.
 
2012-08-12 08:50:50 AM
Bret Easton Ellis looks kinda... 26-minutes-y to me.
 
2012-08-12 08:55:47 AM

notmtwain: How can "The Big Bang Theory" be gay? It's lead character is asexual. The little hetero and homo sextard explosions go off all around him, but he continues blithely unaware.


Yes, but Jim Parsons is gay, which automatically makes the whole show super gay. Or something like that.
 
2012-08-12 09:59:27 AM

DammitIForgotMyLogin: j4x: Bret Easton Ellis is right. a moran.

FTFY.

It's called acting. You know, where people play roles and pretend to be something that they're not.

Until I hear him complaining that Christian Bale doesn't actually like to dismember people in his apartment, he should just shut the fark up.


He's right that all CBS sitcoms are shiat.
 
2012-08-12 10:28:49 AM
How I Met Your Mohter sucks because it's about 100 season past when he should have met the woman. I stopped watching three or four years ago when they started doing the stupid ass near misses and almosts. It however does NOT suck because of the casting of Niel Patrick Harris as Barney. He was the best part of the show.
 
2012-08-12 10:35:56 AM
How long is it going to take everybody to realize that, much like David Mamet, Brett Easton Ellis' polo shirt date rape douchebag protagonists are not meant to be anti-heroes or outrageously cartoonish foci of reader derision, but actual heroes?
 
2012-08-12 10:38:50 AM

thamike: How long is it going to take everybody to realize that, much like David Mamet, Brett Easton Ellis' polo shirt date rape douchebag protagonists are not meant to be anti-heroes or outrageously cartoonish foci of reader derision, but actual heroes?


Well, this stuff he's doing lately is kinda giving that away, don't you think?
 
2012-08-12 11:02:45 AM
Bret Easton Ellis Has Another Issue

Too bad having a hit book on your hands in the last 20 years or so isn't one of them, right Bret?

All the yuppie ironic spawn in the 80s who thought they were above it all and so so different loved them some Bret Easton Ellis.

I bet Paul Ryan was among them.
 
2012-08-12 11:09:52 AM
When asked an interview in 2002 whether or not he was gay, Ellis explained that he does not identify himself as gay or straight. He explained that he is comfortable to be thought of as gay, bisexual or heterosexual and that he enjoys playing with his persona, identifying variously as gay, straight and bi to different people over the years.[10] In a 1999 interview, the author puts forward that his reluctance to definitively label his sexuality (in his own words, he is "very coy and weird about it") is for "artistic reasons", because "if people knew that I was straight, they'd read [my books] in a different way. If they knew I was gay, 'Psycho' would be read as a different book."[11] In an interview with Robert F. Coleman, Ellis refers to his as an "indeterminate sexuality", and said "any other interviewer out there will get a different answer and it just depends on the mood I am in".[12] In a 2011 interview with James Brown, Ellis again states that his answers to questions about his sexuality have varied from interviewer to interviewer, citing an example where his reluctance to refuse the label "bi" had him labelled as such by a Details interviewer. "I think the last time I slept with a woman was five or six years ago, so the bi thing can only be played out so long," he clarifies. "But I still use it, I still say it."[13] Responding to Dan Savage's It Gets Better campaign, aimed at preventing suicide among LGBT youth, Ellis tweeted "Not to bum everyone out, but can we get a reality check here? It gets worse."

If you're a whiny little self absorbed closeted twit, then... yes, I imagine that it would.
 
2012-08-12 11:42:56 AM

Generation_D: When asked an interview in 2002 whether or not he was gay, Ellis explained that he does not identify himself as gay or straight. He explained that he is comfortable to be thought of as gay, bisexual or heterosexual and that he enjoys playing with his persona, identifying variously as gay, straight and bi to different people over the years.[10] In a 1999 interview, the author puts forward that his reluctance to definitively label his sexuality (in his own words, he is "very coy and weird about it") is for "artistic reasons", because "if people knew that I was straight, they'd read [my books] in a different way. If they knew I was gay, 'Psycho' would be read as a different book."[11] In an interview with Robert F. Coleman, Ellis refers to his as an "indeterminate sexuality", and said "any other interviewer out there will get a different answer and it just depends on the mood I am in".[12] In a 2011 interview with James Brown, Ellis again states that his answers to questions about his sexuality have varied from interviewer to interviewer, citing an example where his reluctance to refuse the label "bi" had him labelled as such by a Details interviewer. "I think the last time I slept with a woman was five or six years ago, so the bi thing can only be played out so long," he clarifies. "But I still use it, I still say it."[13] Responding to Dan Savage's It Gets Better campaign, aimed at preventing suicide among LGBT youth, Ellis tweeted "Not to bum everyone out, but can we get a reality check here? It gets worse."

If you're a whiny little self absorbed closeted twit, then... yes, I imagine that it would.


He's definitely a whiny little self absorbed twit, but he's not a closeted one. Self-loathing, absolutely, and more than a little pathetic given the amount of time he spends on Twitter alternately obsessing over porn star James Deen and reminding everyone that he's got a 25 year old boy toy, but closeted is one thing he isn't.
 
2012-08-12 11:43:04 AM
So why are we giving Bent Eatson Anus attention?
 
2012-08-12 11:55:19 AM
It is terrible that actors play roles that don't jibe with their own sexuality. I mean, how can we believe anything that an actor does, if they aren't what they appear to be on screen? Is not Tom Cruise a giant among men, and an accomplished acrobat and pit fighter/marksman? Angelina Jolie ISN'T an archeologist/adventurer? How dare Harrison Ford PLAY a pilot/spy/lawyer when he ISN'T any of those things?

Actors. Terrible people when they act instead of just being what they portray.
 
2012-08-12 12:05:59 PM

j4x: Bret Easton Ellis is right.

But of course everyone will slam him because Neil Patrick Harris has created a stupid, memetic cult of personality and internet nerds jizz their pants over how "epic" he is, which MBK has perfectly exhibited above me.


I still don't think he will sleep with you dude, sorry.
 
2012-08-12 12:13:24 PM
Writing like that makes money, huh?

Time for the farking lobotomy.
 
2012-08-12 12:20:02 PM

hubiestubert: It is terrible that actors play roles that don't jibe with their own sexuality. I mean, how can we believe anything that an actor does, if they aren't what they appear to be on screen? Is not Tom Cruise a giant among men, and an accomplished acrobat and pit fighter/marksman? Angelina Jolie ISN'T an archeologist/adventurer? How dare Harrison Ford PLAY a pilot/spy/lawyer when he ISN'T any of those things?

Actors. Terrible people when they act instead of just being what they portray.


Here's what I don't get. Straight actors play gay? Oscar nomination. Gay actors play straight? We get shiat like this.

What is the damn difference?

/Have a friend who refuses to watch HIMYM because he doesn't believe NPH plays a convincing straight man.
//Never mind that he liked NPH in the Harold & Kumar movies before that.
///Still haven't told him about Matt Bomer.
 
2012-08-12 12:23:35 PM
He's not wrong, he's just an asshole. It's true that when studios cast gay men in roles like NPH's or whatshisname's role in 50 Shades of Grey it is to some extent stunt casting, a lame meta-joke, a way for the bigshots to show how cool and edgy and oh-so-with-it they are, and a way to get some free publicity. It's Hollywood, that's how things work. biatching and whining about it is stupid, however; just because the motives behind these decisions aren't 100% pure, that doesn't mean they're wrong or bad. This sort of thing has a real positive effect on the acceptance of gays in American society. In the real world, where people actually live, things are very rarely black and white, and to act outraged about it is to expose oneself as an overgrown, petulant child.
 
2012-08-12 12:24:25 PM

rynthetyn: He's definitely a whiny little self absorbed twit, but he's not a closeted one. Self-loathing, absolutely, and more than a little pathetic given the amount of time he spends on Twitter alternately obsessing over porn star James Deen and reminding everyone that he's got a 25 year old boy toy, but closeted is one thing he isn't.


Pretty much this. I stopped following him some time ago after he went off on one of his idiotic rants.

amindtat: So why are we giving Bent Eatson Anus attention?


And this.
 
2012-08-12 12:30:01 PM
So what if NPH is a gay guy playing a straight guy?

Vince Vaughn's been playing a funny person for 15 years.
 
2012-08-12 12:38:09 PM
What is wrong with this guy?
Is he smoking meth cooked by Bryan Cranston?
 
2012-08-12 12:43:10 PM

malaktaus: He's not wrong, he's just an asshole. It's true that when studios cast gay men in roles like NPH's or whatshisname's role in 50 Shades of Grey it is to some extent stunt casting, a lame meta-joke, a way for the bigshots to show how cool and edgy and oh-so-with-it they are, and a way to get some free publicity. It's Hollywood, that's how things work. biatching and whining about it is stupid, however; just because the motives behind these decisions aren't 100% pure, that doesn't mean they're wrong or bad. This sort of thing has a real positive effect on the acceptance of gays in American society. In the real world, where people actually live, things are very rarely black and white, and to act outraged about it is to expose oneself as an overgrown, petulant child.


Err, it's the middle aged soccer moms from middle American who want Matt Bomer to star in Fifty Shades of Grey. I'm pretty sure that middle aged housewives from flyover territory aren't the sort that are into meta ironic jokes, they just want to ogle Matt Bomer's abs, same as they did with Magic Mike and for the same reason that White Collar finds increasingly ridiculous excuses to get his shirt off every episode.
 
2012-08-12 12:43:35 PM
NPH has a very odd...read high...forehead. It's disturbing. I like him on the Tony's though. Brett Ellis is kind of brilliant.
 
2012-08-12 12:50:23 PM
....and....why should I give a crap who this person is?
 
2012-08-12 12:51:30 PM
Before Easton-Ellis' little tantrum I had no idea Matt Bomer was gay.

/I should have realized though; it's virtually impossible for a straight guy under 50 to look good in a fedora.
 
2012-08-12 12:53:58 PM
 
2012-08-12 12:59:28 PM

FriarReb98: thamike: How long is it going to take everybody to realize that, much like David Mamet, Brett Easton Ellis' polo shirt date rape douchebag protagonists are not meant to be anti-heroes or outrageously cartoonish foci of reader derision, but actual heroes?

Well, this stuff he's doing lately is kinda giving that away, don't you think?


Sure, but he's been doing it for decades.
 
2012-08-12 01:25:17 PM

Babwa Wawa: He's right that all CBS sitcoms are shiat.


The best part of this is the portrait that Bret Easton Ellis is unintentionally painting of himself. Having read a couple of his novels, it's a little incongruous to picture him watching CBS sitcoms, making catty comments at the TV over a bottle of white zinfandel, like finding out Cormac McCarthy has never ridden a horse, or that William Gibson has to call his nephew for help with "the Google". But what stands out the most is that the guy is clearly preoccupied with how difficult it is for a gay man to pretend to be sexually attracted to women. He's always been oblique in answering questions about his own sexuality, but last year he said in an interview that it has been years since he had slept with a woman, so the whole "bi" thing could only really be played out so long. I'm glad he's coming to terms with and accepting himself, but clearly this is an issue that still weighs on his conscience.
 
2012-08-12 01:55:06 PM
j4x: Bret Easton Ellis is right.

Uh huh... and given that NPH has been playing this role for 7 years now, he's also incredibly timely.
 
2012-08-12 01:59:53 PM
His awful writing aside, Ellis is a terrible human being.

I have no obsession about NPH. He's just an actor. He's fine at his job, but more important to me is that he seems to be a high quality person. Screw Ellis, that pussy. The 80's were a long time ago, and he's feeling lonely without the hype-fed infamy he enjoyed back then..
 
2012-08-12 02:03:01 PM
Yeah well.
Simple minds are easily confused.

/Don't tell the attention whore he's pretty.
 
2012-08-12 02:20:14 PM
I might agree with Ellis on this. I don't think gay men should be discriminated against and for playing your average straight role it shouldn't really matter whether you are gay or not. And I agree that NPH is brilliant as Barney, but here's the thing, Barney isn't supposed to appeal to real life women in a sexual way. He's a funny character that will no doubt appeal to women in that way, but I don't think there are women out there swooning over Barney.

However, (and I haven't read the books so I don't know for sure) I'm guessing the character in 50 Shades of Gray is supposed to be sexy and appeal to women on a sexual level. While Matt Bomer could be super sexy looking (I actually have no idea who he is), women want the fantasy that they would have a chance with sleeping with him. And knowing that they aren't what he fancies, is kind of a turn off on a psychological level.

This isn't much of a problem for men who will think lesbianism is sexy and still in their minds think they can bang a gay chick, but it doesn't really work the same way for most women. I'm sure there are some who think they can turn him or simply appreciate his body, but I would be cautious about the casting if I were in the situation. This is the hottest property out there right now.
 
2012-08-12 02:21:25 PM

notmtwain: How can "The Big Bang Theory" be gay? It's lead character is asexual. The little hetero and homo sextard explosions go off all around him, but he continues blithely unaware.


Because the actor is gay. Clearly, Ellis has a problem with gay actors working in openly. He's a self-loathing jackoff.
 
2012-08-12 02:24:19 PM
Shut up, Ellis. You're a terrible writer and the only thing offensive about your works is that they've managed to make you a name and a bank account by riling up even bigger retards than you. If there were any justice in this world none of your books would ever be found outside a hamster cage.

/ thanks a lot whiny feminist jackholes who couldn't just ignore his shiatty books until no publisher would touch him anymore...
// and Big Bang Theory has never been funny... even for a second
/// but I'd still rather be subject to a BTT series marathon than even one paragraph of Ellis' terrible writing or opinions
 
2012-08-12 02:25:09 PM

PillsHere: I might agree with Ellis on this. I don't think gay men should be discriminated against and for playing your average straight role it shouldn't really matter whether you are gay or not. And I agree that NPH is brilliant as Barney, but here's the thing, Barney isn't supposed to appeal to real life women in a sexual way. He's a funny character that will no doubt appeal to women in that way, but I don't think there are women out there swooning over Barney.

However, (and I haven't read the books so I don't know for sure) I'm guessing the character in 50 Shades of Gray is supposed to be sexy and appeal to women on a sexual level. While Matt Bomer could be super sexy looking (I actually have no idea who he is), women want the fantasy that they would have a chance with sleeping with him. And knowing that they aren't what he fancies, is kind of a turn off on a psychological level.

This isn't much of a problem for men who will think lesbianism is sexy and still in their minds think they can bang a gay chick, but it doesn't really work the same way for most women. I'm sure there are some who think they can turn him or simply appreciate his body, but I would be cautious about the casting if I were in the situation. This is the hottest property out there right now.


Maybe instead of speaking for women you listen to them. Bomer is a sex symbol on his TV show; the ladies love him.
 
2012-08-12 02:47:15 PM
He sounds gay
 
2012-08-12 02:54:06 PM
The usual Fark gay outrage... LOL. PS: TBBT sucks.
 
2012-08-12 02:56:50 PM
So when is Bret Easton Ellis, whoever that is, going to come out of the closet already?
 
2012-08-12 02:57:06 PM
Rather than giving stupid nicknames to mass murderers, I'd love to see a campaign where all the douches in the arts who need to go by three names are referred to by only the first and last. That would be pretty awesome.
 
2012-08-12 03:00:52 PM

eddiesocket: PillsHere: I might agree with Ellis on this. I don't think gay men should be discriminated against and for playing your average straight role it shouldn't really matter whether you are gay or not. And I agree that NPH is brilliant as Barney, but here's the thing, Barney isn't supposed to appeal to real life women in a sexual way. He's a funny character that will no doubt appeal to women in that way, but I don't think there are women out there swooning over Barney.

However, (and I haven't read the books so I don't know for sure) I'm guessing the character in 50 Shades of Gray is supposed to be sexy and appeal to women on a sexual level. While Matt Bomer could be super sexy looking (I actually have no idea who he is), women want the fantasy that they would have a chance with sleeping with him. And knowing that they aren't what he fancies, is kind of a turn off on a psychological level.

This isn't much of a problem for men who will think lesbianism is sexy and still in their minds think they can bang a gay chick, but it doesn't really work the same way for most women. I'm sure there are some who think they can turn him or simply appreciate his body, but I would be cautious about the casting if I were in the situation. This is the hottest property out there right now.

Maybe instead of speaking for women you listen to them. Bomer is a sex symbol on his TV show; the ladies love him.


Or I could just be stating my own opinion on it. I just remember this issue back in the 90's with Rupert Everett. All the girls thought he was so sexy and then when they found out he was gay, the bubble was burst and while he was still considering cute and all that, he just wasn't looked at as much of a sex symbol anymore.

My point was really that this movie is about sex and women tend to like to put themselves into the role of the female protagonist. Women want to be desired by men and if they know that there's no way the guy in the role could desire them, it could be a turn off.

It doesn't mean he isn't hot or sexy, I'm just saying if I were the casting director or producer or whoever was making the decision to cast the part, I would take it into consideration.

I know not all women will have the same opinion of course, but it's something to consider.
 
2012-08-12 03:04:02 PM

PillsHere: Or I could just be stating my own opinion on it.


You didn't do that.
 
2012-08-12 03:10:19 PM

Babwa Wawa: He's right that all CBS sitcoms are shiat.


It's the highest-rated network with an average viewership age of 55.

The internet is doing to tv what tv did to radio. So who cares about network tv, they're busy catering to the old. Stick to cable shows and let Ellis get butthurt over the network crap.
 
2012-08-12 03:18:44 PM

mrsirjojo: Rather than giving stupid nicknames to mass murderers, I'd love to see a campaign where all the douches in the arts who need to go by three names are referred to by only the first and last. That would be pretty awesome.


What about mass murderers who go by three names?
 
2012-08-12 03:20:02 PM

eddiesocket: PillsHere: Or I could just be stating my own opinion on it.

You didn't do that.


I guess I think of anything posted on fark as being an opinion. Sure you can bring in statistical data and facts with citations, but it's not really that type of thread :P.

Okay, how about my opinion on what turns on/attracts women? I'm aware that that isn't something that anyone can say with any certainty since everyone is different, but I'm basing on my own experience and my own conversations with women about things of this nature. Of course I nor any single person could represent all women or people. It's a lot easier to speak in generalizations.

My entire point though was to give a different perspective other than to simply accuse Ellis of being a self-hating homophobe who wants to discriminate against gay people. I just think there's some merit in his argument for the reasons I stated previously. I certainly wasn't trying to upset people.
 
2012-08-12 03:24:54 PM

PillsHere: My entire point though was to give a different perspective other than to simply accuse Ellis of being a self-hating homophobe who wants to discriminate against gay people. I just think there's some merit in his argument for the reasons I stated previously. I certainly wasn't trying to upset people.


A friend of mine went to high school with him.

cache.gawker.com

He's a weirder version of this guy. Popped collar douchebag yelling epithets from his closet. His books aren't sardonic views ofcertain parts of American society. They are sycophantic fanporn.
 
2012-08-12 03:35:41 PM
If anyone posted on Fark what Bret Easton Ellis said, he'd get, maybe, 1/10. And the 1 would be from pity only. Lame troll is lame.
 
2012-08-12 03:35:55 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: So when is Bret Easton Ellis, whoever that is, going to come out of the closet already?


Considering the article that popped up on my mobile showing some pink haired crack whore in a miniskirt, I thought he just did.
 
2012-08-12 03:46:20 PM

MBK: Who the fark is Bret Easton Ellis?

NO ONE farkS WITH NPH. YOU GOT THAT ELLIS? NPH IS UNTOUCHABLE.


You got that right. Who knows what diseases that guy has contracted and is spreading.
 
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