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(National Review)   "If Ryan is an extremist and his proposals are so unpopular, how has he won election seven times in a Democratic district?"   (nationalreview.com) divider line 502
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2012-08-11 10:28:42 PM  
FTA: "Ryan has pointed out to me that no Republican has carried his district for president since Ronald Reagan in 1984."

From Wiki: "A swing district, George W. Bush carried the district in 2004 with 53% of the vote but the district narrowly voted for Barack Obama over John McCain in 2008, 51.40-47.45%."
 
2012-08-11 10:29:05 PM  
The answer, of course, being that he's in a district that generally trends Republican.
 
2012-08-11 10:29:35 PM  
Because he sounds intelligent. Though, sounding intelligent and being intelligent are two entirely different things altogether.
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2012-08-11 10:31:36 PM  
"If Ryan is an extremist and his proposals are so unpopular, how has he won election seven times in a Democratic district?"



Perhaps this is the location of the election fraud the Republicans have been crowing about.
 
2012-08-11 10:31:39 PM  

Sgt Otter: FTA: "Ryan has pointed out to me that no Republican has carried his district for president since Ronald Reagan in 1984."


You know damn well that was not intended to be a factual statement. He's just painting pictures with his pretty words.
 
2012-08-11 10:35:27 PM  
Somehow Ron Paul keeps winning in his district too, all it proves is that you can, in fact, fool some of the people some of the time.
 
2012-08-11 10:35:58 PM  
I grew up in Janesville. Even met Ryan a few times. That area is NOT Democratic
 
2012-08-11 10:37:31 PM  
What kind of retard thinks up these stupid, inaccurate, stories? What kind of retard falls for them? Seriously, WTF is wrong with YOU people?
 
2012-08-11 10:47:27 PM  
Incumbency is an amazing thing.
 
2012-08-11 10:51:44 PM  
Dirty liars and the lies they tell.
 
2012-08-11 10:52:16 PM  
"If Obama is a liberal extremist and his performance is so unpopular, how is he winning so far in all the polls?"
 
2012-08-11 10:53:08 PM  

Sgt Otter: FTA: "Ryan has pointed out to me that no Republican has carried his district for president since Ronald Reagan in 1984."

From Wiki: "A swing district, George W. Bush carried the district in 2004 with 53% of the vote but the district narrowly voted for Barack Obama over John McCain in 2008, 51.40-47.45%."


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we're done. thanks for playing folks!
 
2012-08-11 10:55:38 PM  
Doesn't have anything to do with his looks, and the fact that Americans are TV-trained from birth to worship good looking people as idols.
 
2012-08-11 10:56:00 PM  

adamgreeney: I grew up in Janesville. Even met Ryan a few times. That area is NOT Democratic


Janesville not Democratic? It is difficult to detect over the internet exactly how much humor you were going for there. Apparently a lot.
 
2012-08-11 10:56:10 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-11 10:56:39 PM  

Weaver95: Sgt Otter: FTA: "Ryan has pointed out to me that no Republican has carried his district for president since Ronald Reagan in 1984."

From Wiki: "A swing district, George W. Bush carried the district in 2004 with 53% of the vote but the district narrowly voted for Barack Obama over John McCain in 2008, 51.40-47.45%."

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we're done. thanks for playing folks!


Shame the actual facts probably won't enter the news cycle.
 
2012-08-11 10:56:58 PM  
Recall that Sarah Palin fought a much more engaged Joe Biden to a draw in their 2008 vice-presidential debate.

What is this I don't even.
 
2012-08-11 11:00:39 PM  
He's in a district that is relatively moderate and can flip either way...and he has enough name recognition to ride the incumbent wave to victory repeatedly?
 
2012-08-11 11:00:55 PM  

Fart_Machine: Recall that Sarah Palin fought a much more engaged Joe Biden to a draw in their 2008 vice-presidential debate.

What is this I don't even.


It's NRO. Biden would have had to talk Palin into committing seppuku for them to count it as a narrow win for him.
 
2012-08-11 11:01:48 PM  

Sgt Otter: FTA: "Ryan has pointed out to me that no Republican has carried his district for president since Ronald Reagan in 1984."

From Wiki: "A swing district, George W. Bush carried the district in 2004 with 53% of the vote but the district narrowly voted for Barack Obama over John McCain in 2008, 51.40-47.45%."


Done in one.

Hey NRO: If you have to start making shiat up on the first farking day your guy is picked...well you're farked.

Maybe the district will become retroactively Democratic?
 
2012-08-11 11:02:20 PM  
Because it isn't a farking Democratic district, assholes from NRO. It is a Republican district full of down and out blue-collar workers that are easily swayed by the politics of fear the Republicans bring to the table.
 
2012-08-11 11:02:53 PM  
He brings the Federal pork home every year.
 
2012-08-11 11:04:07 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: [i.imgur.com image 479x637]


So, what you're saying is that Ryan is going to murder Obama, Biden, AND Romney, only to be caught by Frances McDormand?
 
2012-08-11 11:05:12 PM  
"His debate with Joe Biden this October might well be..." The most awesome thing to see on TV all year. Biden is probably singing in the shower at the thought.
 
2012-08-11 11:05:19 PM  
Well, NRO, I'm glad you asked. It's because his district has no major cities in it and there wasn't any big press coverage. He's a personable guy and apparently likable in person. Folks in his district saw him as the nice young man who would show up in the parade. After they learned that he had some pretty radical notions about ending Medicare and stuff, hundreds flooded his town hall meetings to say that his ideas were bad and he should feel bad. It will be interesting to see what the national spotlight on his views actually does for his reelection prospects in 2 years.
 
2012-08-11 11:05:54 PM  
dtdstudios.com
 
2012-08-11 11:06:14 PM  
So in his district the Democrats vote Republican and no one has thought of renaming the district to Republican? Got it.
 
2012-08-11 11:07:36 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Because he sounds intelligent. Though, sounding intelligent and being intelligent are two entirely different things altogether.


Well, he looks intelligent too.
 
2012-08-11 11:08:11 PM  

Fart_Machine: Recall that Sarah Palin fought a much more engaged Joe Biden to a draw in their 2008 vice-presidential debate.

What is this I don't even.


Yeah, that's the point where I burst out laughing as well.
 
2012-08-11 11:08:23 PM  
Umm, he's won the district 7 times. Before him was Mark Neumann for at least 2 terms before he decided to go elsewhere. Neumann may be even more a right-winger than Ryan. The district has gone not just GOP, but balls-out right-winger for nearly 2 decades, and it hasn't just been Ryan. I wouldn't say it's a "Democratic district."
 
2012-08-11 11:09:02 PM  

Solon Isonomia: Weaver95: Sgt Otter: FTA: "Ryan has pointed out to me that no Republican has carried his district for president since Ronald Reagan in 1984."

From Wiki: "A swing district, George W. Bush carried the district in 2004 with 53% of the vote but the district narrowly voted for Barack Obama over John McCain in 2008, 51.40-47.45%."

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we're done. thanks for playing folks!

Shame the actual facts probably won't enter the news cycle.


As has already been previously discussed here on fark...I don't think the GOP gives a damn about the facts. oh they know the truth (most of them anyways) but the GOP seems to be actively trying to suppress...well, reality itself. not just merely 'the facts'. take this article for example - a quick and dirty google search shows that Ryan is in a swing district, but the article itself implies that Ryan is successful among democrats. now that's a blatant lie. But the author most likely knows the details of Ryan's situation. he knew Ryan was in a swing district...but that was an inconvenient truth. A little bit of reality that simply got in the way of the story. so the author rewrote reality.

sure, you could say 'both sides do it'. there might even be a bit of truth to that. And you might could say that the author was engaging in a bit of election year grandstanding....and that might also be true. But when you see article after article after article, website after website, news story after news story...all marching in lockstep with Republican statements and views and all pretending to be 'independent' well, it does strain credulity to say the least.
 
2012-08-11 11:09:07 PM  

splohn: adamgreeney: I grew up in Janesville. Even met Ryan a few times. That area is NOT Democratic

Janesville not Democratic? It is difficult to detect over the internet exactly how much humor you were going for there. Apparently a lot.


No, Janesville is certainly not Democratic. You must be thinking of a different Janesville.
 
2012-08-11 11:10:41 PM  

Makh: Biden is probably singing in the shower at the thought.


"You got the peaches, I got the cream,
Sweet to taste, saccharine,
'Cause I'm hot, say what, sticky sweet,
From my head, my head, to my feet,

Do you take sugar? One lump or two?"
 
2012-08-11 11:10:49 PM  

Gunther: Fart_Machine: Recall that Sarah Palin fought a much more engaged Joe Biden to a draw in their 2008 vice-presidential debate.

What is this I don't even.

It's NRO. Biden would have had to talk Palin into committing seppuku for them to count it as a narrow win for him.


That wasn't just the National Review at the time. The broad concensus in the media was that, since she didn't throw up or fall down, she beat expectations and thus won the debate. Even Geraldine Ferraro was crowing about how she connected directly with the people by winking at them.
 
2012-08-11 11:11:17 PM  
Well, in all fairness to NRO, some guy in the district once said that he kinda, sorta didn't mind being mandated to buy health insurance and another once accepted Obama's birth certificate. So clearly it is a RINO district, which is the same as being Satan wrapped in a soviet flag kissing, marrying another Satan that where the catered food is all argula and dijon mustard salads.

So vote Republican...
 
2012-08-11 11:11:18 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Because he sounds intelligent. Though, sounding intelligent and being intelligent are two entirely different things altogether.


Being intelligent doesn't prevent greed, dishonesty, hunger for power, cruelty etc.
I wouldn't underestimate Ryan, especially with the power of a fully armed and operational corporate media oligopoly behind him.

It is easy to be complacent and assume that, because he has been more open about his bad policy plans than is usual, he is stupid or doomed. This is not necessarily true, "Citizens" United super pacs and a consolidated corporate media will be constantly at work cranking out noise and nonsense at an even higher rate now that there is more certainty that a Romney administration will work effectively against middle class interests.
 
2012-08-11 11:11:37 PM  
www.hispanicallyspeakingnews.com
 
2012-08-11 11:12:37 PM  

Sgt Otter: FTA: "Ryan has pointed out to me that no Republican has carried his district for president since Ronald Reagan in 1984."

From Wiki: "A swing district, George W. Bush carried the district in 2004 with 53% of the vote but the district narrowly voted for Barack Obama over John McCain in 2008, 51.40-47.45%."


Hey, look, just because it's a lie doesn't mean it's not true, does it?
 
2012-08-11 11:12:47 PM  

Ed Finnerty: [dtdstudios.com image 474x637]


Ed, I am digging the general shape of that jib of yours.
 
2012-08-11 11:13:19 PM  
Wow, they're comparing Paul Ryan to Regan already.

That didn't take long.

They would compare a water cooler to Reagan if they thought it would help the GOP ticket. That comparison has lost its meaning.
 
2012-08-11 11:13:34 PM  
Dear NRO,

Your team is running with McCain/Palin pt 2. Admit it. Forget about 2012 and move on.
 
2012-08-11 11:13:40 PM  
Ryan Paul is the best of the best and no one is ever gonna beat him, ever. He'll win and win and after he's elected president for the 4th straight time, he'll run for king of the world and he'll win win win, because we has no choice, he's just that much of a winner, winner, winner!!!

-Anything to make believe it's a close race
 
2012-08-11 11:13:51 PM  
In fact, here's the full history of the district. You had Les Aspin from 71 to 93, who resigned to become Sec. Def. Other than Aspin that district has been Dem for 4 years during the entire 20th century.


/Dem district my ass.
 
2012-08-11 11:14:07 PM  
It's beause, NRO, as you've long fantasized, we libby lib lib libby libs hate America but we secretly admire your rippling conservative pecs and want to have your baby.

See you in the airport toilet on official Senate business tee hee!
 
2012-08-11 11:14:39 PM  

FTFA: Democrats will no doubt try to make Paul Ryan into a younger version of the devil they've tried to paint Mitt Romney as.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-11 11:14:59 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: [i.imgur.com image 479x637]


For the Obama one, I think Nucky Thompson would work better.
 
2012-08-11 11:15:05 PM  
Take the cover story on Ryan that the Isthmus, a radically left-wing Madison, Wis. newspaper, ran on him in 2009.

Sigh. Are they advocating burning down wall street and setting up a organic coop in it's place? And making killing animals equal to killing people? No? Then guess who isn't radically left wing.

Ryan puts Wisconsin and its ten electoral votes in play. Polls have shown that President Obama holds a five to seven point lead in Wisconsin - significant, but much less than Obama's 14-point margin in 2008. With Ryan on the ticket, polls show the race is dead even.

What polls? Taken when?

Romney had a problem with energizing the GOP base. That problem is now solved

No it isn't.
 
2012-08-11 11:15:08 PM  

Boxcutta: Well, NRO, I'm glad you asked. It's because his district has no major cities in it and there wasn't any big press coverage. He's a personable guy and apparently likable in person. Folks in his district saw him as the nice young man who would show up in the parade. After they learned that he had some pretty radical notions about ending Medicare and stuff, hundreds flooded his town hall meetings to say that his ideas were bad and he should feel bad. It will be interesting to see what the national spotlight on his views actually does for his reelection prospects in 2 years.


He's a rep, he's up for reelection this year. He's been up for election a couple times after his plan was created, and still got reelected. I think he's safe, no matter how bad his ideas get.
 
2012-08-11 11:15:13 PM  

FloydA: Sgt Otter: FTA: "Ryan has pointed out to me that no Republican has carried his district for president since Ronald Reagan in 1984."

From Wiki: "A swing district, George W. Bush carried the district in 2004 with 53% of the vote but the district narrowly voted for Barack Obama over John McCain in 2008, 51.40-47.45%."

Hey, look, just because it's a lie doesn't mean it's not true, does it?


Hey let's be fair now. It could be that Paul Ryan is just very ignorant about his district.
 
2012-08-11 11:15:37 PM  
Perry/Quale 2015!!!!!
 
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