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(The Atlantic)   Under Ryan's budget plan, Romney would have paid 0.82% in taxes on 8 figure income. That's not a typo   (theatlantic.com) divider line 310
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2012-08-12 06:59:53 AM

jetzzfan: That's still more than the 49.5% of people that don't pay income taxes

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citing the Heritage foundation as a source automatically disqualifies your post
 
2012-08-12 07:01:44 AM

jetzzfan: That's still more than the 49.5% of people that don't pay income taxes

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No shiat...damn poor people. They get all the breaks!
 
2012-08-12 07:01:50 AM

EnviroDude: So paying 1% isn't good enough? But Obama is upset that Romney paid 15%. I suppose he should pay 99%


You need to get yourself checked. I think you're, like, broken or something.
 
2012-08-12 07:02:37 AM

Lionel Mandrake: jetzzfan: That's still more than the 49.5% of people that don't pay income taxes

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No shiat...damn poor people. They get all the breaks!


That Lucky Duckey!
 
2012-08-12 07:02:37 AM
I still suspect Romney is grossly underreporting his income and wealth.
 
2012-08-12 07:02:53 AM

jetzzfan: That's still more than the 49.5% of people that don't pay income taxes


Do you know how much those 49.5% make as a total percentage of income, or are you just going to dump a load in the thread and then run away like a disingenuous crybaby?
 
2012-08-12 07:03:13 AM

Alphax: I still suspect Romney is grossly underreporting his income and wealth.


That you, Ric?
 
2012-08-12 07:05:39 AM
Romney replied, "From now on, I want to make it clear, my friends, that policy and position discussions should be off the table during this campaign, and we've contacted the Obama camp to demand this."
 
2012-08-12 07:06:43 AM

jso2897: Alphax: I still suspect Romney is grossly underreporting his income and wealth.

That you, Ric?


I funnied.
 
2012-08-12 07:09:45 AM

James F. Campbell: jetzzfan: That's still more than the 49.5% of people that don't pay income taxes

Do you know how much those 49.5% make as a total percentage of income, or are you just going to dump a load in the thread and then run away like a disingenuous crybaby?


most in that category are either too old or too young to pay taxes
or are unemployed

and even those that are working still pay far,far,far,far more in sales tax and soc security,medicare,medicaid etc as a percentage of their income than the rich do,

these asshats who complain about taxes need to realize.
someone has to pay the bills
and you can't get blood out of a turnip.
these poor people have nothing to take.
and if you're championing the rich and their tax cuts then you are begging them to tax you more.
because that's all that's left. you. you must pay the bills.
 
2012-08-12 07:11:40 AM

Hobodeluxe: jetzzfan: That's still more than the 49.5% of people that don't pay income taxes

Link

citing the Heritage foundation as a source automatically disqualifies your post


Well it was true. For one year due to tax credits and the recession. That number was much lower before and is going down now.

But then again those people aren't making millions of dollar every year so that talking point is stupid.
 
2012-08-12 07:12:01 AM

SilentStrider: Weaver95: I honestly can't figure out what in the hell Romney was thinking of when he selected Ryan as his running mate.

out of curiosity, who do you think might have been a good choice?


Well, someone other than Romney, to begin with...
 
2012-08-12 07:14:58 AM

EnviroDude: So paying 1% isn't good enough? But Obama is upset that Romney paid 15%. I suppose he should pay 99%


You sound tired.

So tired after taking that big threadshiat, that im fairly sure we wont be hearing from you again in this thread at least.
 
2012-08-12 07:16:35 AM
One day, I'll be a millionaire too and I don't want these terrible things to happen to me. Vote republican.
 
2012-08-12 07:22:22 AM

Hobodeluxe: and if you're championing the rich and their tax cuts then you are begging them to tax you more.


That's all poor and middle class republicans do is champion the rich. And hate minorities and gays.
 
2012-08-12 07:27:13 AM

Halli: Hobodeluxe: jetzzfan: That's still more than the 49.5% of people that don't pay income taxes

Link

citing the Heritage foundation as a source automatically disqualifies your post

Well it was true. For one year due to tax credits and the recession. That number was much lower before and is going down now.

But then again those people aren't making millions of dollar every year so that talking point is stupid.


nah that statement was misleading.
they do pay taxes. just not federal income taxes.
but they still pay out 4.2% of their income to social security.
almost 3% in medicare tax
and between 5-10% in sales taxes. (even more if they drive a car and buy gas)
 
2012-08-12 07:37:01 AM
It would be interesting to see what Americans as a whole would do if these facts were prominently placed in front of them - but they won't be.
The media's need for ratings demands a "close race", by any means that same can be contrived.
The devoluton will not be televised.
 
2012-08-12 07:45:03 AM

cameroncrazy1984: So, Ryan wants to raise Romney's taxes?


lolololol
 
2012-08-12 07:47:08 AM

Coco LaFemme: Remember a while back when I said Romney didn't really want to be President? Yeah. Picking Paul Ryan was yet another sign that he doesn't really want the job, he just likes campaigning (even though he sucks at it) and talking about being President. It takes too much work/effort to be President, and Romney's never done an honest day's work in his entire farking life. He was born into money, lives in money, will die in money, and his kids were born into money....sunrise, sunset.

Besides, doesn't he know that the President doesn't pull down the amount of money per year that he does right now? It would be a huge step down for him, I don't know how he'd show his face around Rafalca again, provided it hasn't been sent to the glue factory already.


I think it's the opposite. I think he hates campaigning and thus brought in someone to take the attention away from him (as if that worked so great before), but he definitely thinks he is entitled to the presidency.
 
2012-08-12 07:49:30 AM

cameroncrazy1984: ignite ice: Nothing is stopping you from investing your money into the stock market and taking the same route as Mitt Romney. Paul Ryan's plan benefits all stock investors, and it makes sense why we should do that: it incentives the working class to put their savings into the stock market instead of the failing banks. That eight figure income is Romney's income and it has little do with Ryan's tax proposal. Romney is a bystander. He benefits just like you would. Romney gave over 15% of his income in 2010 to charity and the bible states that when you give your money away, it will come back to you in even greater amounts.

I can't figure out what the hidden words are. Poe stories?

 
2012-08-12 07:50:36 AM
I'm not that highly paid, but my federal rate is about 5%.

My 94 year old grandmother actually makes more per year than I do, passively, and has a rate of .5%.

Ryan's budget would make that gap wider.
 
2012-08-12 07:51:34 AM
The 0.82% number is a powerful statement that people can latch onto, and one that the GOP will fight tooth and nail as misleading, but I'd bet it's already incorporated into the stump speech for O/B. I can't figure out how Romney responds to that - - it's pretty damming and again brings his personal taxes to the front of the discussion, which is exactly where the Dems want it. Surely someone in Rmoney's campaign saw this coming...if not, then that's even a worse indictment on their incompetence.
 
2012-08-12 07:52:18 AM
So... When are people going to start voting for their interests?
 
2012-08-12 07:52:35 AM

jetzzfan: That's still more than the 49.5% of people that don't pay income taxes

Link


Weirdly, those people still pay taxes, and 100% of it comes out of non-disposable income.
 
2012-08-12 07:55:13 AM

bonefish: So... When are people going to start voting for their interests?


Just as soon as we take care of that last bogeyman.
 
2012-08-12 07:57:11 AM

bonefish: So... When are people going to start voting for their interests?


The election right after abortion is abolished, guns aren't being grabbed, muslims and gays are oppressed, the war on christmas is over, public education is destroyed, welfare is abo---

Well, never.
 
2012-08-12 07:58:37 AM

Lionel Mandrake: And every one of these jackasses would get a tax hike. But the dipshiats will still vote Republican.


[blogs.ajc.com image 850x571]


I just noticed that the guy in the middle looks like he gives the most epic lack of a shiat.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-12 07:59:53 AM

GAT_00: Weaver95: I honestly can't figure out what in the hell Romney was thinking of when he selected Ryan as his running mate

That's easy. Ryan is a big policy wonk. He doesn't have personal baggage. The entire Romney campaign at this point is personal baggage. And I think these people are deluded enough to think their policy actually is liked by people.


Paul Ryan is about due for a personal scandal which will require him to spend more time with his family.
 
2012-08-12 08:00:09 AM

Lionel Mandrake: jetzzfan: That's still more than the 49.5% of people that don't pay income taxes

Link

No shiat...damn poor people. They get all the breaks!


So after three years of Barack Obama, nearly of half Americans are considered poor.

/Great job!
 
2012-08-12 08:00:11 AM

KilaKitu: Surely someone in Rmoney's campaign saw this coming...if not, then that's even a worse indictment on their incompetence.


The whole story of Romney's campaign is not seeing things coming that everyone else could see from space. He had to have known that his taxes would come up and people would be asking him to make with his past returns. And he had to have known that whatever shady dealings he was involved in with Bain and whatever else he was into would come up. So why did he even decide to run in the first place? Once I asked "Is he that arrogant or just stupid?". The overwhelming response was "Yes".
 
2012-08-12 08:00:27 AM

Bloody William: Lionel Mandrake: And every one of these jackasses would get a tax hike. But the dipshiats will still vote Republican.


[blogs.ajc.com image 850x571]

I just noticed that the guy in the middle looks like he gives the most epic lack of a shiat.

[i.imgur.com image 850x571]


He's preparing to expand his throat sack to attract a mate.
 
2012-08-12 08:03:48 AM

Mugato: EnviroDude: So paying 1% isn't good enough?

No, you farking sycophant. The .1% still isn't going to sleep with you.


So, I am not having personal time with Meghan McCain's fun bags?
 
2012-08-12 08:04:27 AM

jetzzfan: That's still more than the 49.5% of people that don't pay income taxes

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So what?
 
2012-08-12 08:04:28 AM

soy_bomb: Lionel Mandrake: jetzzfan: That's still more than the 49.5% of people that don't pay income taxes

Link

No shiat...damn poor people. They get all the breaks!

So after three years of Barack Obama, nearly of half Americans are considered poor.

/Great job!


I'm not sure how Obama was president for three years in 2009.
 
2012-08-12 08:04:55 AM

KilaKitu: The 0.82% number is a powerful statement that people can latch onto, and one that the GOP will fight tooth and nail as misleading, but I'd bet it's already incorporated into the stump speech for O/B. I can't figure out how Romney responds to that - - it's pretty damming and again brings his personal taxes to the front of the discussion, which is exactly where the Dems want it. Surely someone in Rmoney's campaign saw this coming...if not, then that's even a worse indictment on their incompetence.


1) Distancing himself from the Ryan budget (like Romneycare and Bain) which he is already doing
2) "It is a personal attack by the evil Obama"
 
2012-08-12 08:10:31 AM
Think of all the jobs that could create. Romney and people at his income level would put it in banks and those banks could loan it out to small businesses, big businesses, consumers. It would be great for the economies of Switzerland, Luxembourg, Caymen Islands, the list goes on and on.
 
2012-08-12 08:10:52 AM
This is Paul Ryan's future....

comicbook.com
 
2012-08-12 08:13:33 AM

Harry_Seldon: This is Paul Ryan's future....


Carbon fiber running blades. Not just for legless Olympians anymore.
 
2012-08-12 08:13:34 AM
But the American public will still vote for them because...you know...they aren't black.
 
2012-08-12 08:14:00 AM

DamnYankees: Man, thank of all the jobs he could create!


At soup kitchens, funeral homes, homeless shelters, and those kid sweat shops?

i265.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-12 08:14:57 AM

Halli: I'm not sure how Obama was president for three years in 2009.


www.strangecosmos.com
 
2012-08-12 08:17:00 AM
So what, the people who love him think Romney's been Taxed Enough Already.
 
2012-08-12 08:18:55 AM

GAT_00: Weaver95: you mean the Ryan budget isn't personal baggage? dear god - he almost got his ass excommunicated from the Catholic Church over his gotdamn budget.

It's completely policy. No I don't consider that personal baggage in the slightest. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it personal baggage. Ryan is pure policy. That's why they took him.


Well, that and he said yes. I don't imagine that line was too long.
 
2012-08-12 08:19:04 AM

Neeek: jetzzfan: That's still more than the 49.5% of people that don't pay income taxes

Link

Weirdly, those people still pay taxes, and 100% of it comes out of non-disposable income.


But they're not paying Federal income taxes. State income tax, sales tax, property taxes where applicable...none of those are helping pay down the trillions in debt we have. Perhaps if we set a bottom of 1% Federal income tax that everyone must pay, we could get more people to have Skin In The Game - A Joe Biden demand.
 
2012-08-12 08:19:42 AM

pippi longstocking: But the American public will still vote for them because...you know...they aren't black socialists.


FTFY
 
2012-08-12 08:20:14 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-12 08:23:35 AM
And please remember that Paul Ryan is a moderate. He's a moderate. He's just like you and me. He's a moderate. Not an extremist or a radical. Just a moderate. Who thinks that the wealthy should pay no income or capital gains taxes. Because they are successful. And do you know how much they pay in sales tax on their yachts. Well, actually, none, because of job-creator deals that let them technically "buy" their yacht in Mexico and pay no sales tax. Which is a win-win (for the yacht manufacturer and the buyer).

But still.

Paul Ryan is a moderate. Not an extremist or a radical. He's a moderate. Who thinks that unions are illegal and un-American. But give him credit. He's willing to allow unions to exist, so long as they can't do anything illegal or un-American like bargain collectively. Did he have union leaders rounded up and imprisoned? No! He's a moderate. Paul Ryan is a moderate.

Keep that in mind if he gets into office and does other things that at first you may find surprising, or shocking, or extremist, or radical.
 
2012-08-12 08:28:55 AM

Hobodeluxe: Halli: Hobodeluxe: jetzzfan: That's still more than the 49.5% of people that don't pay income taxes

Link

citing the Heritage foundation as a source automatically disqualifies your post

Well it was true. For one year due to tax credits and the recession. That number was much lower before and is going down now.

But then again those people aren't making millions of dollar every year so that talking point is stupid.

nah that statement was misleading.
they do pay taxes. just not federal income taxes.
but they still pay out 4.2% of their income to social security.
almost 3% in medicare tax
and between 5-10% in sales taxes. (even more if they drive a car and buy gas)


This is where I point out that Mitt Romney doesn't pay 4.2% of his income to Social Security, since it stops being collected after $110k. You and I pay 4.2%. Mitt makes $20 million, so he effectively pays 0.023%.
 
2012-08-12 08:29:38 AM

Weaver95: I honestly can't figure out what in the hell Romney was thinking of when he selected Ryan as his running mate. this is only the first of many articles that will only bring Romney's vast riches into focus. which is exactly what Romney and the Republicans don't want to happen.


Probably because every one else turned him down.
 
2012-08-12 08:32:42 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: Weaver95: I honestly can't figure out what in the hell Romney was thinking of when he selected Ryan as his running mate. this is only the first of many articles that will only bring Romney's vast riches into focus. which is exactly what Romney and the Republicans don't want to happen.

Probably because every one else turned him down.


I'm still registered as a Republican. I was worried he was eventually going to call me.
 
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