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(Some Guy)   Tens of thousands of fans dress up as empty seats as Arizona Rattlers defeat Philadelphia Soul to win ArenaBowl XXV   (arenafan.com) divider line 26
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2012-08-11 07:27:22 PM
Ah, the AFL, where the four best teams in the league were in the same division.

Spokane was the worst team in its division and still actually did beat every other division champ. Pretty easily, too!
 
2012-08-11 08:35:11 PM
From Nola.com: the Rattlers won their third Arena Football Championship Friday night, 72-54, in front of 13,648 at the New Orleans Arena.

Sooooo... in an arena that holds 16,500 for arena, 2,842 empty seats (or one-sixth of the arena) are now "tens of thousands"??? Are you doing math for Romney, subtard??
 
2012-08-12 01:19:17 AM
Does the AFL act as a kind of 'minor league' system for the NFL in any capacity? Or possibly Canadian Football? There are a couple more I can't remember.

//not XFL...
 
2012-08-12 06:23:40 AM
Purify is playing in the AFL? WTF?
 
2012-08-12 08:42:57 AM
I didn't realize the Arena League still existed.
 
2012-08-12 09:04:53 AM

Jamdug!: Does the AFL act as a kind of 'minor league' system for the NFL in any capacity? Or possibly Canadian Football? There are a couple more I can't remember.

//not XFL...


I thought the NFL's minor league was the NCAA?
 
2012-08-12 09:09:15 AM

FriarReb98: From Nola.com: the Rattlers won their third Arena Football Championship Friday night, 72-54, in front of 13,648 at the New Orleans Arena.

Sooooo... in an arena that holds 16,500 for arena, 2,842 empty seats (or one-sixth of the arena) are now "tens of thousands"??? Are you doing math for Romney, subtard??


The last time I went to the AFL Championship game, I think they had a few sections cut off entirely and it was pretty packed. I miss the AFL; I got free tickets because my dad's boss's daughter was a Voodoo cheerleader.
 
2012-08-12 09:40:11 AM

Sargun: FriarReb98: From Nola.com: the Rattlers won their third Arena Football Championship Friday night, 72-54, in front of 13,648 at the New Orleans Arena.

Sooooo... in an arena that holds 16,500 for arena, 2,842 empty seats (or one-sixth of the arena) are now "tens of thousands"??? Are you doing math for Romney, subtard??

The last time I went to the AFL Championship game, I think they had a few sections cut off entirely and it was pretty packed. I miss the AFL; I got free tickets because my dad's boss's daughter was a Voodoo cheerleader.


I miss af2, it was pretty fun to have that within walking distance of my friend's old apartment.
 
2012-08-12 10:04:00 AM

FriarReb98: From Nola.com: the Rattlers won their third Arena Football Championship Friday night, 72-54, in front of 13,648 at the New Orleans Arena.

Sooooo... in an arena that holds 16,500 for arena, 2,842 empty seats (or one-sixth of the arena) are now "tens of thousands"??? Are you doing math for Romney, subtard??


Amount they announce in lower leagues >>>> amount that actually attend. Current AFL management is terrible at managing a league.
 
2012-08-12 10:52:26 AM

FriarReb98: From Nola.com: the Rattlers won their third Arena Football Championship Friday night, 72-54, in front of 13,648 at the New Orleans Arena.

Sooooo... in an arena that holds 16,500 for arena, 2,842 empty seats (or one-sixth of the arena) are now "tens of thousands"??? Are you doing math for Romney, subtard??


Go look at pictures from the game, Friar. If there were 13,648 people there when they were taken, there must've been one helluva run at the concession stands.

/subby
 
2012-08-12 10:54:11 AM
What 2,842 empty seats might look like...
 
2012-08-12 10:56:15 AM
What 2,842 empty seats might look like...
www.usfl.info
Picture taken at kickoff.
 
2012-08-12 11:17:45 AM

mactheknife: What 2,842 empty seats might look like...
[www.usfl.info image 565x310]
Picture taken at kickoff.


Is that shadow a blimp coming over the stadium a blimp like in Black Sunday?
 
2012-08-12 11:18:11 AM
Yeah, it's really, really sad when you're league has fallen so much, you can't sell out your Championship game. I enjoyed going to the Arena League game in Nashville when the Kats version 2.0 were playing. Even then, the arena was fuller than that place was. If the league has any chance of surviving into next year, they need to realize they're just not popular enough to have the championship at a neutral site. But then, with the player contract issues they were having with earlier this year, they very well may not make it another year.
 
2012-08-12 11:18:58 AM

strangeguitar: mactheknife: What 2,842 empty seats might look like...
[www.usfl.info image 565x310]
Picture taken at kickoff.

Is that shadow a blimp coming over the stadium a blimp like in Black Sunday?


Ugh,.....syntax sucks this morning

/still drunk
 
2012-08-12 11:33:43 AM
I don't get something - why in God's name in a minor league sport like AFL would they play their championship game on a neutral site?
 
2012-08-12 11:35:59 AM

Jamdug!:

//not XFL...


Biggest irony of XFL? Or it's greatest legacy? That a shiat-ton of innovation from the XFL is used by the NFL today. They'll never admit it, but from access to camera angles to graphics, they took a lot of Vince's ideas and went with it.

The biggest mistake the XFL made was starting too big, too soon. They would have had succeeded in today's cable market, especially with sports outlets like NBCSN.
 
2012-08-12 11:57:15 AM

MattyFridays: I don't get something - why in God's name in a minor league sport like AFL would they play their championship game on a neutral site?


In part because the New Orleans Voodoo (v. 2.0) is having serious attendance problems, and the league's powers that be thought by having the championship there, it would help spur season ticket sales. Needless to say, it didn't work.

The original AFL died and those who were in AF2 bought up the rights to the original league's name and team names. Now they're trying to promote this "new" AFL as a continuation of the original, when in fact it's a pale comparison on just about all levels.

The AFL of 2012 is, in fact, the AF2 of 2007, in terms of talent level and management. They made the mistake of trying to get original AFL ticket prices for an inferior product, they don't self-promote anywhere near as well as they did under the Baker regime (though, admittedly, look where that got them), their Commissioner's about as fan-friendly as Torquemada, and every season since "the return," there've been at least a half dozen teams who are seen as candidates to fold or relocate.
 
2012-08-12 12:05:54 PM
Biggest irony of XFL? Or it's greatest legacy? That a shiat-ton of innovation from the XFL is used by the NFL today. They'll never admit it, but from access to camera angles to graphics, they took a lot of Vince's ideas and went with it.

The biggest mistake the XFL made was starting too big, too soon. They would have had succeeded in today's cable market, especially with sports outlets like NBCSN.


The NFL can trace more 'innovations' from the USFL than it ever could the XFL, but I digress... the XFL was, like the USFL and WFL before it, completely overhyped before they actually put the football product on the field. The UFL meanwhile went the other way - overpaying for player talent and under-selling. All were (or are) colossal failures in one respect or another.

The way to launch a new professional football league, at least as I see it, is to start out small in every respect possible:
- Small payroll, in the form of guaranteeing players a set revenue percentage of live gate (and only that percentage).
- Playing in the spring (no direct NFL competition; the USFL might have worked had they stuck to that formula).
- Play in affordable, smaller facilities (why rent a stadium that holds 50K if you're only going to draw 5K?)
- Get a television partner to lock into an iron-clad, 5- to 10-year television deal, with no "opt out" clauses (like the XFL did), and no rating guarantees. Alternately, go way outside the box and sign a deal with HBO/Showtime, giving them an exclusive weeknight game which they can offer as an additional source of live sports programming.
- And most importantly, for the first year - play an extended preseason, without television coverage. Let the product develop and mature at least a little before you try to put it on any kind of stage.
 
2012-08-12 01:41:16 PM
Try as I might, I can't stand watching football played on those small fields.
 
2012-08-12 01:41:48 PM
Arena football sucks worse than a skid row hooker with Parkinson's.
 
2012-08-12 06:02:51 PM

mactheknife: What 2,842 empty seats might look like...
[www.usfl.info image 565x310]
Picture taken at kickoff.


Yet another reason to hate places like StubHub.

/Although this is a somewhat bad example- I'm betting that you could get tickets for about five bucks a few hours before kickoff. Point is that fans who really want to see the game are blocked from getting many of the good seats by places like that.
 
2012-08-12 08:15:56 PM

mactheknife: What 2,842 empty seats might look like...
[www.usfl.info image 565x310]
Picture taken at kickoff.


Didn't help that it didn't start until 9:30 Pm on a Friday night (stumbled on it channel surfing)

I know it's New Orleans and all but whoever thought starting a football game at that hour needs to be fired ASAP
 
2012-08-12 09:17:50 PM

mactheknife: What 2,842 empty seats might look like...
[www.usfl.info image 565x310]
Picture taken at kickoff.


Exactly. The 13,648 number must have included ushers, security, janitors and concessions staff. And why did they start that game at 9:30pm? That's farking dumb.
 
2012-08-12 10:59:06 PM
Seriously, the AFL has a neutral-site championship game and expects sellouts? Just giv eit to the highest-ranked team in the league.


I'm sure this was done to satisfy NFL Network and minimize arena availability issues. Even then, arenas are RARELY booked for full weekends. Just... just terrible. Terrible, Arena league.
 
2012-08-13 09:40:14 AM

WSUCanuck: I'm sure this was done to satisfy NFL Network and minimize arena availability issues. Even then, arenas are RARELY booked for full weekends. Just... just terrible. Terrible, Arena league.


The first part is correct - they wanted their game on NFLN (or were contractually obligated to have it on there, not sure what the deal is there), and there was an NFL preseason game (featuring TEBOW!!!!!111!!) to play first, so they had to wait until it was over to start the game. Nothing to do with the arena.

Thanks NFL!

WSUCanuck: Seriously, the AFL has a neutral-site championship game and expects sellouts? Just giv eit to the highest-ranked team in the league.


They started off with that, then Spokane had the best record in the league the first season back and they were like "WHOA I DON'T WANNA GO TO SPOKANE!" even though it was the only city that actually gave a sh*t about the league and regularly sold out games (yes, because there aren't other, bigger sports in town).
 
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