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2012-08-11 10:38:18 PM
WhyteRaven74: According to the FoxNews bio blurb, Ryan likes Rage Against the Machine. Apparently he's never actually listened to the lyrics.

"War Pigs" is Tony Blair's favorite song. Think about that.
 
2012-08-11 10:38:55 PM
I can't believe these two numbskulls have the nerve to even try to run on this platform of cutting taxes even more while destroying our social safety net...a social compact that was agreed on long ago. WTF are they thinking?

They have alienated everyone except the right wing lunatic fringers who pretend that deficit spending is their real cause when we all know they just hate the black guy in the white house.

They can all suck my ever-loving-penis.
 
2012-08-11 10:39:00 PM
Sabyen91: You know, I am not sure I have ever heard him speak but when I read that it is in a voice that is a mix of Jackie Mason and Jerry Stiller.

Never heard him speak either... but yep. He's got an imaginary cadence that's unmistakable.
 
2012-08-11 10:39:01 PM
www.highway29.net
 
2012-08-11 10:39:12 PM
Why would he? He appears to have nothing to do with his own policies.
 
2012-08-11 10:44:52 PM
LordJiro: Richard Roma: clkeagle: hourheroyes:
Unless the Tea Party manages to split the Republican party in two with their anti-"RINO" crusade. Then, if a liberal party was prepared, it could plausibly fill the power vacuum left by the collapse of the Republicans. The Democrats could absorb the moderate Republicans, and the derpers could be marginalized in the Tea Party, Constitution Party, and whatever other extremist right-wing parties they break up into because the main parties aren't Real Conservatives.

Probably too optimistic, sure, but it's a possibility.


The moderate Republicans have already been absorbed by the Dems. Or at least become independents. As for the derpers, they're so easily manipulated and so hateful of 'the other' that they'll stick with the Republicans no matter what. Even if, say, they nominate a former Taxachusetts moderate governor whose health care plan was the model for the same health care plan that they now view as the most evil thing since the discovery of sodomy.
 
2012-08-11 10:45:11 PM
Sabyen91: You know, I am not sure I have ever heard him speak but when I read that it is in a voice that is a mix of Jackie Mason and Jerry Stiller.

Jerry Stiller is actually a close approximation. If he's ever in a TV movie, Jerry Stiller will almost definitely play him.

Here's a deposition from last October if you want to see what he really sounds like: (sorry, link keeps getting rejected)

http://www.lasvegassun.com/videos/2011/nov/16/5993

Fast forward to 18:30 for the hilarious part:

Opposing Counsel: "Have you ever been an officer or director of Interface?
Sheldon's Counsel: "Objection! Calls for a legal conclusion, calls for speculation."
 
2012-08-11 10:47:13 PM
Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Never heard him speak either... but yep. He's got an imaginary cadence that's unmistakable.

See my "link" above. Or just imagine Jerry Stiller with a week-long bout of pneumonia and a bad case of gout.
 
2012-08-11 10:47:54 PM
Sabyen91: Captain_Ballbeard: Richard Roma: The only way to reduce the Republican party to the irrelevant fringe where it belongs would be to change our elections so that we'd have runoffs when somebody didn't get 50% of the vote, or something similar. As it is right now, neither party can split up without giving the other total control. And the chances of voting reform are nonexistent.

Neither party has any real control. This is a one-party system now.

[www.corporations.org image 553x327]

Both sides are the same because of media consolidation.


They can make or break nearly anybody in politics. If Democrats actually started pushing policies that would be good for the people of this country, policies that cut into the profits of media owners, what do you think would happen?

That's why we have Black Bush now.
 
2012-08-11 10:50:46 PM
ox45tallboy: MyRandomName: Ahh, the ignorance of the fark left who has no clue what the Ryan plan actually was for Medicare. Let me laugh at your ignorance more! Yes, the granny off the cliff ad was real! You can believe whatever histrionics you want, but that's not what his plan does. The ACA cuts more from Medicare funding than the Ryan reforms did.... so why has the left refused to attack that?

Because most of those cuts came from increased efficiency and the ability to substitute generic prescriptions, and the rest came from allowing people to stay on their Obamacare-approved company health plans rather than switch to Medicare after their retirement.

Ryan's plan calls for taking even less money and giving it to private, for-profit companies so that they can take profits off the top and spend whatever is left on sick people.

Understand now?

I tend not to laugh at ignorance, since it indicates lack of knowledge, which can be corrected.


You seriously believe they would "spend whatever is left on sick people"? Seriously? You are talking for-profits here. Take a look at the medical industry in the US one time.
 
2012-08-11 10:51:57 PM
ox45tallboy: Sabyen91: You know, I am not sure I have ever heard him speak but when I read that it is in a voice that is a mix of Jackie Mason and Jerry Stiller.

Jerry Stiller is actually a close approximation. If he's ever in a TV movie, Jerry Stiller will almost definitely play him.

Here's a deposition from last October if you want to see what he really sounds like: (sorry, link keeps getting rejected)

http://www.lasvegassun.com/videos/2011/nov/16/5993

Fast forward to 18:30 for the hilarious part:

Opposing Counsel: "Have you ever been an officer or director of Interface?
Sheldon's Counsel: "Objection! Calls for a legal conclusion, calls for speculation."


He was way too subdued in that video to tell. I would love to see him pissed off.
 
2012-08-11 10:52:11 PM
Richard Roma: Even if, say, they nominate a former Taxachusetts moderate governor whose health care plan was the model for the same health care plan that they now view as the most evil thing since the discovery of sodomy.

Exactly who's definition of sodomy do you speak of? Because if I go a few mile to the west it's a whole different ballgame.

/pun intended
 
2012-08-11 10:52:32 PM
Captain_Ballbeard: Sabyen91: Captain_Ballbeard: Richard Roma: The only way to reduce the Republican party to the irrelevant fringe where it belongs would be to change our elections so that we'd have runoffs when somebody didn't get 50% of the vote, or something similar. As it is right now, neither party can split up without giving the other total control. And the chances of voting reform are nonexistent.

Neither party has any real control. This is a one-party system now.

[www.corporations.org image 553x327]

Both sides are the same because of media consolidation.

They can make or break nearly anybody in politics. If Democrats actually started pushing policies that would be good for the people of this country, policies that cut into the profits of media owners, what do you think would happen?

That's why we have Black Bush now.


FFS.
 
2012-08-11 10:55:28 PM
www.cleverdonkey.com
 
2012-08-11 10:56:45 PM
ox45tallboy: Sabyen91: You know, I am not sure I have ever heard him speak but when I read that it is in a voice that is a mix of Jackie Mason and Jerry Stiller.

Jerry Stiller is actually a close approximation. If he's ever in a TV movie, Jerry Stiller will almost definitely play him.

Here's a deposition from last October if you want to see what he really sounds like: (sorry, link keeps getting rejected)

http://www.lasvegassun.com/videos/2011/nov/16/5993

Fast forward to 18:30 for the hilarious part:

Opposing Counsel: "Have you ever been an officer or director of Interface?
Sheldon's Counsel: "Objection! Calls for a legal conclusion, calls for speculation."


Wow.

Opposing Atty: What are the names of the operations
Adelson: I think it's called "Interface Operations"
Opposing Atty: What is the business, or operations elements of "Interface Operations"
Adelson: I don't know
Opposing Atty: Are you in any way a director of "Interface Operations"
Adelson: I don't know
Opposing Atty: You don't know?
Adelson: That's correct.
Opposing Atty: Is there a reason you don't know?
Adelson Atty: Objection. Argumentative. Don't answer that question.

You better pump some more money into Mittens for Pres, Mr. Adelson.
 
2012-08-11 10:58:05 PM
RosevilleDan: [www.highway29.net image 338x635]

How dare you disparage Underdog like that!
 
2012-08-11 10:59:12 PM
ox45tallboy: See my "link" above. Or just imagine Jerry Stiller with a week-long bout of pneumonia and a bad case of gout.

Pretty close to how I'd imagined him, but now I'd say a cross between Jerry Stiller and Donald Trump.
 
2012-08-11 11:01:28 PM
deadcrickets: You seriously believe they would "spend whatever is left on sick people"? Seriously? You are talking for-profits here. Take a look at the medical industry in the US one time.

Yes, after they've taken their profits out, they would kind of be forced to spend something on sick people or risk being dropped from the "free government money" corporate welfare program Ryan envisions Medicare becoming.
 
2012-08-11 11:02:03 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-11 11:04:15 PM
Don't Troll Me Bro!: You better pump some more money into Mittens for Pres, Mr. Adelson.

www.trbimg.com
"Why, when I've got lawyers like that working for me? Listen to the first couple of minutes, when I ream his ass for taking up so much of my time, and he keeps calling me 'your honor' because in his words, he has 'so much respect for you, Mr. Adelson.' See? This f*cking goy knows his place."
 
2012-08-11 11:04:38 PM
sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2012-08-11 11:06:25 PM
Sabyen91: He was way too subdued in that video to tell. I would love to see him pissed off.

blogs-images.forbes.com
"I think it's safe to say you'll never be important enough to piss me off."
 
2012-08-11 11:11:53 PM
ox45tallboy: Sabyen91: He was way too subdued in that video to tell. I would love to see him pissed off.

[blogs-images.forbes.com image 300x278]
"I think it's safe to say you'll never be important enough to piss me off."


Ain't that the truth.
 
2012-08-11 11:17:04 PM
i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-08-11 11:17:05 PM
And when they lose after running the worst campaign in my lifetime, the tea party is going to be convinced it's because they weren't conservative enough and we're going to get another four years of the most ridiculous derp that ever derped.
 
2012-08-11 11:17:58 PM
farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2012-08-11 11:18:22 PM
Sabyen91: Captain_Ballbeard: Sabyen91: Captain_Ballbeard: Richard Roma: The only way to reduce the Republican party to the irrelevant fringe where it belongs would be to change our elections so that we'd have runoffs when somebody didn't get 50% of the vote, or something similar. As it is right now, neither party can split up without giving the other total control. And the chances of voting reform are nonexistent.

Neither party has any real control. This is a one-party system now.

[www.corporations.org image 553x327]

Both sides are the same because of media consolidation.

They can make or break nearly anybody in politics. If Democrats actually started pushing policies that would be good for the people of this country, policies that cut into the profits of media owners, what do you think would happen?

That's why we have Black Bush now.

FFS.


I see absolutely no difference in the way Obama handled TARP and the way Bush did. Obama's DOJ has stood down on prosecuting anybody involved in the largest financial scam in history. I see Obama kissing Israeli ass and sucking up to corporate power. Black Bush.
 
2012-08-11 11:18:26 PM
ox45tallboy: Sabyen91: He was way too subdued in that video to tell. I would love to see him pissed off.

[blogs-images.forbes.com image 300x278]
"I think it's safe to say you'll never be important enough to piss me off."


ox45tallboy, you are on farking fire.
Nobody here has ever made me laugh so many times in such a short period of time before.
Thank you for the great work.
 
2012-08-11 11:19:16 PM
The Why Not Guy: [farm9.staticflickr.com image 474x637]

Beautiful.
 
2012-08-11 11:24:04 PM
Nem Wan: There are two questions you're allowed to ask of Mitt Romney:

"Are you Mitt Romney?"

"Do you want to be president?"

He'll likely answer yes to both.

Any other questions about Mitt Romney are out of bounds and you should be ashamed of yourself.


You missed "How much are Obama's policies hurting the economy?"

("Which Obama policies are hurting the economy?", on the other hand, is very much out of bounds.)
 
2012-08-11 11:24:16 PM
rynthetyn: And when they lose after running the worst campaign in my lifetime, the tea party is going to be convinced it's because they weren't conservative enough and we're going to get another four years of the most ridiculous derp that ever derped.

Yes, sounds about right.
 
2012-08-11 11:27:02 PM
Mithiwithi: You missed "How much are Obama's policies hurting the economy?"

("Which Obama policies are hurting the economy?", on the other hand, is very much out of bounds.)


media.naplesnews.com
"Well, don't ask me to be any more specific than 'a lot' on the first one, okay?"
 
2012-08-11 11:30:14 PM
Captain_Ballbeard: Richard Roma: The only way to reduce the Republican party to the irrelevant fringe where it belongs would be to change our elections so that we'd have runoffs when somebody didn't get 50% of the vote, or something similar. As it is right now, neither party can split up without giving the other total control. And the chances of voting reform are nonexistent.

Neither party has any real control. This is a one-party system now.

[www.corporations.org image 553x327]


If only someone could have seen this coming.
http://youtu.be/boXoOQyjyck
 
2012-08-11 11:31:01 PM
Captain_Ballbeard: Sabyen91: Captain_Ballbeard: Sabyen91: Captain_Ballbeard: Richard Roma: The only way to reduce the Republican party to the irrelevant fringe where it belongs would be to change our elections so that we'd have runoffs when somebody didn't get 50% of the vote, or something similar. As it is right now, neither party can split up without giving the other total control. And the chances of voting reform are nonexistent.

Neither party has any real control. This is a one-party system now.

[www.corporations.org image 553x327]

Both sides are the same because of media consolidation.

They can make or break nearly anybody in politics. If Democrats actually started pushing policies that would be good for the people of this country, policies that cut into the profits of media owners, what do you think would happen?

That's why we have Black Bush now.

FFS.

I see absolutely no difference in the way Obama handled TARP and the way Bush did. Obama's DOJ has stood down on prosecuting anybody involved in the largest financial scam in history. I see Obama kissing Israeli ass and sucking up to corporate power. Black Bush.


I am not sure what you would have liked Obama to do with TARP. Unfortunately the shiat the financial industry did was legal. Bush wouldn't have signed Dodd-Frank. I don't see Obama kissing Israeli ass and what exactly has he done to suck up to corporate power? Also, Bush didn't pass health care reform, credit card reform, equal pay. He didn't create the CFPB. He didn't get OBL. He didn't outlaw waterboarding. Obama hasn't invaded any countries because he was wanted his daddy's approval.

/Stop saying "black Bush". It makes you sound like an ignorant racist.
 
2012-08-11 11:41:15 PM
Sabyen91: I am not sure what you would have liked Obama to do with TARP. Unfortunately the shiat the financial industry did was legal.

Fraud is now legal.

The more you know.
 
2012-08-11 11:41:33 PM
Sabyen91: I am not sure what you would have liked Obama to do with TARP. Unfortunately the shiat the financial industry did was legal. Bush wouldn't have signed Dodd-Frank. I don't see Obama kissing Israeli ass and what exactly has he done to suck up to corporate power? Also, Bush didn't pass health care reform, credit card reform, equal pay. He didn't create the CFPB. He didn't get OBL. He didn't outlaw waterboarding. Obama hasn't invaded any countries because he was wanted his daddy's approval.

I think everybody forgets just how close we came to the entire global economy collapsing. TARP was an attempt to make the most of a really shiatty situation, and the alternative was so much worse that it was unthinkable. We were about as close to the brink of a complete collapse and global depression as we could get without it actually happening and as bad as things were I don't even like to think of just how bad it could have gotten.
 
2012-08-11 11:42:28 PM
lh5.googleusercontent.com
 
2012-08-11 11:42:57 PM
rynthetyn: Sabyen91: I am not sure what you would have liked Obama to do with TARP. Unfortunately the shiat the financial industry did was legal. Bush wouldn't have signed Dodd-Frank. I don't see Obama kissing Israeli ass and what exactly has he done to suck up to corporate power? Also, Bush didn't pass health care reform, credit card reform, equal pay. He didn't create the CFPB. He didn't get OBL. He didn't outlaw waterboarding. Obama hasn't invaded any countries because he was wanted his daddy's approval.

I think everybody forgets just how close we came to the entire global economy collapsing. TARP was an attempt to make the most of a really shiatty situation, and the alternative was so much worse that it was unthinkable. We were about as close to the brink of a complete collapse and global depression as we could get without it actually happening and as bad as things were I don't even like to think of just how bad it could have gotten.


And yet we have put all the remaining eggs right back in the same basket and business goes on as it did before.
 
2012-08-11 11:46:17 PM
Captain_Ballbeard: Sabyen91: I am not sure what you would have liked Obama to do with TARP. Unfortunately the shiat the financial industry did was legal.

Fraud is now legal.

The more you know.


Thank deregulation. Thanks White Bush!
 
2012-08-11 11:46:30 PM
Delay: AnEvilGuest: cameroncrazy1984: MyRandomName: As for Ryan, he is one of the few adults in Congress. He is not afraid to take political risks and refuses to kick the can down the road

An adult in Congress would create a budget that doesn't end Medicare and add a trillion dollars to the deficit while giving $4 trillion in tax breaks to rich people. Paul Ryan is no adult.

say what you will about the tenets of granny starving but at least it's an ethos

I disagree with much of what Ryan believes in but I do think he's at least willing to have as honest a debate over ideas as is possible, so I'll call him an adult.

"you didn't build that", "I like firing people" are examples of what I consider non-adult name calling bullshiate.

Is there some way that Fark could prevent retarded folks from posting>


We try, but every time some troll is outed, they just create a new alt and jump right back into the cesspool.
 
2012-08-11 11:47:27 PM
rynthetyn: Sabyen91: I am not sure what you would have liked Obama to do with TARP. Unfortunately the shiat the financial industry did was legal. Bush wouldn't have signed Dodd-Frank. I don't see Obama kissing Israeli ass and what exactly has he done to suck up to corporate power? Also, Bush didn't pass health care reform, credit card reform, equal pay. He didn't create the CFPB. He didn't get OBL. He didn't outlaw waterboarding. Obama hasn't invaded any countries because he was wanted his daddy's approval.

I think everybody forgets just how close we came to the entire global economy collapsing. TARP was an attempt to make the most of a really shiatty situation, and the alternative was so much worse that it was unthinkable. We were about as close to the brink of a complete collapse and global depression as we could get without it actually happening and as bad as things were I don't even like to think of just how bad it could have gotten.


Sometimes the far left is as bad as the far right. There is no rationality.
 
2012-08-11 11:54:52 PM
rynthetyn: Sabyen91: I am not sure what you would have liked Obama to do with TARP. Unfortunately the shiat the financial industry did was legal. Bush wouldn't have signed Dodd-Frank. I don't see Obama kissing Israeli ass and what exactly has he done to suck up to corporate power? Also, Bush didn't pass health care reform, credit card reform, equal pay. He didn't create the CFPB. He didn't get OBL. He didn't outlaw waterboarding. Obama hasn't invaded any countries because he was wanted his daddy's approval.

I think everybody forgets just how close we came to the entire global economy collapsing. TARP was an attempt to make the most of a really shiatty situation, and the alternative was so much worse that it was unthinkable. We were about as close to the brink of a complete collapse and global depression as we could get without it actually happening and as bad as things were I don't even like to think of just how bad it could have gotten.


Exactly right, the failure has come from not changing the system and allowing "too big to fail" and all the other mistakes to continue. It was not the prevention of global catastrophe.

I give both parties credit for doing what had to be done during the crisis and both parties blame for failing to improve the system adequately since.
Although the Orwellian term "Bail Out Bill" back in 2010 was, I think, a primarily republican piece of bullshiate and the Dems at least tried to create a way to deal with irresponsible "too big to fail" banks
 
2012-08-11 11:57:03 PM
Sabyen91: Captain_Ballbeard: Sabyen91: I am not sure what you would have liked Obama to do with TARP. Unfortunately the shiat the financial industry did was legal.

Fraud is now legal.

The more you know.

Thank deregulation. Thanks White Bush!


And thanks Black Bush for not pushing to re-regulate or reform.
 
2012-08-11 11:59:50 PM
i241.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-11 11:59:56 PM
rynthetyn: I think everybody forgets just how close we came to the entire global economy collapsing. TARP was an attempt to make the most of a really shiatty situation, and the alternative was so much worse that it was unthinkable. We were about as close to the brink of a complete collapse and global depression as we could get without it actually happening and as bad as things were I don't even like to think of just how bad it could have gotten.

Yeah, while the refusal to prosecute anyone involved or draw up regulations sufficient to prevent the same thing from happening infuriates me, the bailout was the only option available. We were on the verge of total, global economic collapse, and it pains my soul to think that people have already forgotten how bad it was. Money markets started becoming unprofitable. Commercial paper become unprofitable overnight. Companies who had survived for decades on a 3-day loan to make payroll found their cash flow drying up.

As soon as the government let Lehman die, it called to market hundreds of billions of dollars worth of credit default swaps, and were that not controlled, we'd all probably be eating grass and dirt today to sate our pangs of hunger. It would have collapsed the entire shadow banking system. Of course Republicans hindered every attempt at plugging this enormous leak in our regulatory structure once Obama was elected, since clearly Wall Street needs to be even more unencumbered to create jobs.

It disgusts me that nobody was prosecuted for that mess, but bailing them out was the right move.
 
2012-08-12 12:00:40 AM
Captain_Ballbeard: Sabyen91: Captain_Ballbeard: Sabyen91: I am not sure what you would have liked Obama to do with TARP. Unfortunately the shiat the financial industry did was legal.

Fraud is now legal.

The more you know.

Thank deregulation. Thanks White Bush!

And thanks Black Bush for not pushing to re-regulate or reform.


Dodd-Frank. Sure it is a half-measure but in today's political climate that is pretty impressive. President is not king.
 
2012-08-12 12:02:19 AM
Captain_Ballbeard: Sabyen91: Captain_Ballbeard: Sabyen91: I am not sure what you would have liked Obama to do with TARP. Unfortunately the shiat the financial industry did was legal.

Fraud is now legal.

The more you know.

Thank deregulation. Thanks White Bush!

And thanks Black Bush for not pushing to re-regulate or reform.


I guess you forgot that "Black Bush" is dealing with a hostile congress whose only mission is to make him a one-term president.
 
2012-08-12 12:04:45 AM
steverockson: Captain_Ballbeard: Sabyen91: Captain_Ballbeard: Sabyen91: I am not sure what you would have liked Obama to do with TARP. Unfortunately the shiat the financial industry did was legal.

Fraud is now legal.

The more you know.

Thank deregulation. Thanks White Bush!

And thanks Black Bush for not pushing to re-regulate or reform.

I guess you forgot that "Black Bush" is dealing with a hostile congress whose only mission is to make him a one-term president.



All that is necessary for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.
--- some dude
 
2012-08-12 12:05:28 AM
steverockson: Captain_Ballbeard: Sabyen91: Captain_Ballbeard: Sabyen91: I am not sure what you would have liked Obama to do with TARP. Unfortunately the shiat the financial industry did was legal.

Fraud is now legal.

The more you know.

Thank deregulation. Thanks White Bush!

And thanks Black Bush for not pushing to re-regulate or reform.

I guess you forgot that "Black Bush" is dealing with a hostile congress whose only mission is to make him a one-term president.


So, he puts a second term for himself above the good of the People?
 
2012-08-12 12:05:56 AM
ox45tallboy: Don't Troll Me Bro!: You better pump some more money into Mittens for Pres, Mr. Adelson.

[www.trbimg.com image 600x400]
"Why, when I've got lawyers like that working for me? Listen to the first couple of minutes, when I ream his ass for taking up so much of my time, and he keeps calling me 'your honor' because in his words, he has 'so much respect for you, Mr. Adelson.' See? This f*cking goy knows his place."


I know we've talked about this before and you don't know where this stuff comes from, but don't ever change. What you do makes a lot of people smile.
 
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