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(Boston Herald)   Massachusetts governor signs bill to try to keep alcohol away from children   (bostonherald.com) divider line 30
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2012-08-11 01:54:27 PM
Let the free market determine how much hazardous material can be shipped through residential areas!

/Or just stop subsidizing ethanol production
 
2012-08-11 02:31:39 PM
You would think they would have halted the plans for the train once Teddy Kennedy died
 
2012-08-11 03:45:21 PM

ArkAngel: You would think they would have halted the plans for the train once Teddy Kennedy died


Yeah, that's a horrible death, being run over by a tr....wait! that's not what happened!
 
2012-08-11 03:58:31 PM

ArkAngel: You would think they would have halted the plans for the train once Teddy Kennedy died


c'mon, there's other kennedy livers to ruin not to mention there's all those other politicians who seem to be drunk when you look at their voting records
 
2012-08-11 04:04:47 PM
A 2011 study commissioned by the state Department of Environmental Protection found ethanol is now the most hazardous substance being transported by rail in the United States.

i'd sure like to see the specifics of that study.
 
2012-08-11 04:07:59 PM

Curious: A 2011 study commissioned by the state Department of Environmental Protection found ethanol is now the most hazardous substance being transported by rail in the United States.

i'd sure like to see the specifics of that study.


Isn't some nuclear waste (or at least, radioactive material of a hazardous nature) transported by train? I'm pretty sure that's worse than ethanol...
 
2012-08-11 04:18:46 PM
Do they currently ship other hazardous liquids on those very same rail lines? If not, why not? If they are, why are those OK, but ethanol not?

Why didn't the journalist cover this? Seems like necessary background information to me.
 
2012-08-11 04:26:50 PM

Curious: A 2011 study commissioned by the state Department of Environmental Protection found ethanol is now the most hazardous substance being transported by rail in the United States.

i'd sure like to see the specifics of that study.


I know you are CURIOUS and all.. so there is this new invention called Google that lets you search out such inquiries. Especially when given such specific information.
 
2012-08-11 04:28:39 PM

Amnestic: Curious: A 2011 study commissioned by the state Department of Environmental Protection found ethanol is now the most hazardous substance being transported by rail in the United States.

i'd sure like to see the specifics of that study.

Isn't some nuclear waste (or at least, radioactive material of a hazardous nature) transported by train? I'm pretty sure that's worse than ethanol...


That stuff goes in containers that can survive a head-on train wreck. I don't think an ethanol transport will be able to do the same.
 
2012-08-11 05:22:49 PM
I love the ONE GUY from Columbus Ohio posting in that comments thread that has no idea what the Boston Herald is.
 
2012-08-11 05:31:27 PM
I guess this mean more will be smoking the reefer.
 
2012-08-11 05:32:37 PM
Hmmm... more dangerous than tanker cars full of chlorine, benzene, propane, yada yada.

Ethanol is a fairly low hazard cargo compared to some of the things I can think of. And a tanker car full of ethanol will burn off in less time than a broken pipeline.

And don't they float those giant LNG tits into Boston harbor for warmth. The most EPIC TERRORIST TARGET in New England.
 
2012-08-11 05:36:02 PM

LarryDan43: I guess this mean more will be smoking the reefer.


bath salts, man. bath salts.
 
2012-08-11 05:36:58 PM

LarryDan43: I guess this mean more will be smoking the reefer.


26.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-08-11 05:45:14 PM
Good. Four year olds make for mean drunks.
 
2012-08-11 05:48:20 PM
Ethanol train?

I'll drink to that!
 
2012-08-11 05:51:39 PM

GilRuiz1: Do they currently ship other hazardous liquids on those very same rail lines? If not, why not? If they are, why are those OK, but ethanol not?

Why didn't the journalist cover this? Seems like necessary background information to me.



Government policies are almost always vague, hazy and nonsensical.

In fact, I don't think they're Everclear.
 
2012-08-11 06:14:22 PM

wildcardjack: Hmmm... more dangerous than tanker cars full of chlorine, benzene, propane, yada yada.

Ethanol is a fairly low hazard cargo compared to some of the things I can think of. And a tanker car full of ethanol will burn off in less time than a broken pipeline.

And don't they float those giant LNG tits into Boston harbor for warmth. The most EPIC TERRORIST TARGET in New England.


It's probably more dangerous in that there is likely to be more of it.

And the whole terrorist-target angle makes me laugh, in a slightly bitter way. It's so typical of America--let's set up this potentially hazardous location, put it into operations...and THEN let's worry about the possible threats by domestic or international terrorism.
 
2012-08-11 06:47:25 PM
bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com

We don't fark around in Montana:
ISMAY - A Montana rail line is open again three days after a freight train's derailment caused six cars carrying a fuel additive to explode in a fiery cloud.
Burlington Northern Santa Fe spokesman Gus Melonas says the line in eastern Montana reopened Wednesday afternoon after crews finished repairs to the track.
He says workers will continue to remove rail cars and debris from the site over the next few weeks.
Fifteen tanker cars containing the fuel additive denatured alcohol and one car hauling cardboard derailed Sunday between Baker and Ismay, about 180 miles northeast of Billings
No one was hurt and officials are investigating the cause of the crash.
Read more: http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/montana-rai l-line-reopened-after-fiery-derailment/article_072eb742-189e-5216-bdaf -bc99ad267656.html#ixzz23HS7PktR
 
2012-08-11 06:51:16 PM

Amnestic: I'm pretty sure that's worse than ethanol...


Well nuclear waste never got your girlfriend drunk and in bed with your best friend right after you bought her a $500 dollar engagement ring MEGAN
 
2012-08-11 08:34:20 PM
Meanwhile, these can go through town with no opposition:

www.globalsecurity.org
 
2012-08-11 08:50:29 PM

buzzcut73: Meanwhile, these can go through town with no opposition:

[www.globalsecurity.org image 412x268]



Yeah, that stuff was really a gas during WWI.
 
2012-08-11 09:07:37 PM

Amnestic: Curious: A 2011 study commissioned by the state Department of Environmental Protection found ethanol is now the most hazardous substance being transported by rail in the United States.

i'd sure like to see the specifics of that study.

Isn't some nuclear waste (or at least, radioactive material of a hazardous nature) transported by train? I'm pretty sure that's worse than ethanol...


And the submunition rockets for M270 MLRS vehicles get transported via rail as well. Probably more of a hazard than ethanol or nuclear waste.
 
2012-08-11 09:11:17 PM

buzzcut73: Meanwhile, these can go through town with no opposition:

[www.globalsecurity.org image 412x268]


And if I were a terrorist, that's where I'd be sticking a pack of Semtex and a detonator triggered by a GPS unit.

(Attention Homeland Security jackboots: I am not a terrorist, m'kay?)
 
2012-08-11 11:53:12 PM

rebelyell2006: Amnestic: Curious: A 2011 study commissioned by the state Department of Environmental Protection found ethanol is now the most hazardous substance being transported by rail in the United States.

i'd sure like to see the specifics of that study.

Isn't some nuclear waste (or at least, radioactive material of a hazardous nature) transported by train? I'm pretty sure that's worse than ethanol...

And the submunition rockets for M270 MLRS vehicles get transported via rail as well. Probably more of a hazard than ethanol or nuclear waste.


I'd like to see the study too. I'm wondering if it's only because ethanol is likely to be transported in regular tank cars (which nuclear waste is not) and without any military tracking (as munitions are likely to be). Nuclear waste and military ordnance fall into the ultrahazardous activities and so are going to be transported with more care than something that's "oh, it's just gasoline, what can possibly go wrong?" In other words, a risk PERCEIVED to be less hazardous is more likely to be handled casually, and thus create a GREATER risk than materials perceived to be dangerous.
 
2012-08-12 12:58:54 AM
Yeah, fuel ethanol is such a terrible idea that it's one of the few things that it's looking like the UN might have the balls to confront the US over. That shiat's not particularly good for the environment and it's crashing agricultural markets around the damned world.
 
2012-08-12 01:02:12 AM

Amos Quito: buzzcut73: Meanwhile, these can go through town with no opposition:

[www.globalsecurity.org image 412x268]


Yeah, that stuff was really a gas during WWI.


My husband was gassed with a chlorine IED in Iraq. He said that shiat was NOT fun.

/he still has lung damage from it
 
2012-08-12 02:05:42 AM
www.hck-id.ch
 
2012-08-12 06:32:10 PM
But what about tanker cars full of condoms?
 
2012-08-12 11:17:09 PM
ITPS
 
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