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(Yahoo)   US DOJ files suit against Meridan MS school system and police dept. alleging that having school children arrested and jailed for "dress code violations, flatulence, profanity, and disrespect" might just maybe violate their civil rights   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 29
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2012-08-11 03:32:34 PM  
5 votes:

just_intonation: These parents raise these kids without discipline or moral standards, then send them off to school to learn how to be better hoodlums, and so they can pawn off their responsibilities on the 'gubmint'. The schools are not equipped to deal with the behavioral issues, and they have to turn to the police to enforce order and discipline.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the kids being disciplined by courts, and if that means incarceration of some sort, that's fine by me.


Really?!? Could you possibly be any more racist? As a favor, I bolded your dog-whistle code words for you.

Here's why it's racist - it would NEVER HAPPEN in a middle class white school district. Even if they had identical rules in your local middle-class schools, the parents would have enough money and education (not smarts, education) to immediately fight it in the courts, and win. This kind of crap wouldn't last 6 month in a middle class white neighborhood. Further, the superintendent's heads would roll so far they'd be lucky to escape without losing their houses to civil judgments.

Call me old fashioned, but with jails packed to capacity I think jail should largely be reserved for violent offenders. Sure, we still need to lock up the degenerate con-men and serious thieves. Largely though, jail should be a last-resort tool to keep our street's safe.

Jail should not be a hammer to punish an underclass who are not as socially trained as we'd like. When the only tool you prefer is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a nail.
2012-08-11 02:49:28 PM  
3 votes:

RexTalionis: But there's no racism in the deep south.



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Meridian Public School Superintendent Dr. Alvin Taylor, Ph.D, frowns at your ignorant, stereotypical assumption.
2012-08-11 02:46:55 PM  
3 votes:
As a resident of Meridian, MS, I say throw all of the evil motherfarkers -- from top to bottom -- responsible for this farce in jail, then bankrupt the city and county with lawsuits.

farking inbred redneck farktard assholes, all of them.
2012-08-11 12:50:16 PM  
3 votes:

brerrabbit: Where the fark do school districts get the idea that they can do farked up shiat like this?


This kinda happened in Virginia as well. Where judges were sending kids to private prisons and taking kickbacks. Though there is no evidence this is the case here but I would certainly not be surprised if it was.
2012-08-11 08:58:18 PM  
2 votes:
Also these zero-tolerance policies are so ridiculous. My daughter was threatened with suspension and a ticket in 5th grade for defending herself when a boy shoved her and hit her. My response was to tell the school district no you will not punish my child, you will deal with the child who started it. I said if you push this issue I will ensure it ends up on the news and I will remove my high-performing students and home school them (which means you will lose money from the state). They backed down when I showed up with several other parents and a news reporter to the school board mtg. Asshats. The parents needed to push to back on this nonsense before it ever went this far with these power hungry bastards.

/my daughter won the fight
2012-08-11 03:37:40 PM  
2 votes:
Meridian isn't predominatly white. The school admins aren't predominatly white. I hate to fark up your socially conscious outrage here, but it's not what you think.
2012-08-11 03:06:44 PM  
2 votes:
As a functional idiot I'm OK with jailing people that dress in a manner I don't like. It says nothing about the rebelliousness of youth and everything about the tearing apart of the fabric of all that is good. Kids that dress odd never grow out of it or get jobs. Arrest the youth. Squandering our rights means nothing next to fixing this. I'm a functional idiot.
2012-08-11 03:04:47 PM  
2 votes:

cig-mkr: Headline: Feds Authorities in Meridian, Miss. Violated Rights of Black Children
So if the population is 62% black, that leaves 38% something else. They are trying to tell me that there has never been anyone's rights, other then blacks, violated? I've got to throw the BS flag on the headline, it's racist.


Obviously, the headline is biased against morons.
2012-08-11 02:54:26 PM  
2 votes:
So, here's the real problem: lack of parenting.

These parents raise these kids without discipline or moral standards, then send them off to school to learn how to be better hoodlums, and so they can pawn off their responsibilities on the 'gubmint'. The schools are not equipped to deal with the behavioral issues, and they have to turn to the police to enforce order and discipline.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the kids being disciplined by courts, and if that means incarceration of some sort, that's fine by me. While they're at it, they should also incarcerate the parents and/or otherwise hold them responsible for their kids' behavior. Of course, in this liberal state, there is no accountability or personal or familial responsibility -- and that's the real problem.

If it just so happens that the majority of the kids who have had no parental involvement or discipline are of color, that's not racism; it's reality.

/why, yes, my children are well-behaved in school
//they know what the consequences of their actions are
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-08-11 01:01:54 PM  
2 votes:
xynix

Do you mean Pennsylvania "kids for cash", which resulted in federal prison sentences for state judges, or was there another case in Virginia?
2012-08-11 07:43:18 PM  
1 votes:
Let me put it in a way that can easily be understood by even authoriatarian dolts: Jailing kids for wearing their pants down is as ridiculous (if not more so) as the kids wearing their pants down.
2012-08-11 06:12:43 PM  
1 votes:
Last April 20th, a local high school I was working in went into lockdown for 45 minutes. During that time, the county sheriff deputies brought in two drug dogs and walked one through the student parking lot and had the other dog walk through the school sniffing lockers. Quite a few kids got in trouble for small amounts of weed.

I knew the principal and asked her if she thought is was a good idea a to crush these kids chance of getting to college or the military for a small amount of pot. I got he standard response, "It's illegal to have drugs in school, so we feel justified in doing it." Well, some of those kid's parents pitched a fit and she ended up retiring.
2012-08-11 05:14:03 PM  
1 votes:

Matthew Keene: I'm okay with trying anything to knock some sense into these kids. It isn't happening at home. They get out of school and move into their adult lives completely unemployable. Sagging pants is even the half of it. Try to tell them nicely that they are not doing a work task right and here's the right way, and they are in your face screaming that you're disrespecting them. Show up when they want. Steal anything that isn't tied down. Of course, every 15 minutes you have to tell them to pull up their pants. I say Meridian Schools are trying their best to work through the lack of parenting, kids with the social skills of drunken baboons, and the glorification of the gangsta lifestyle. Trying to get through to them before there is another generation of drains on society that are good for nothing but sitting on the stoop drinking malt liquor, crying about the man keeping them down while collecting assistance or dealing.


Wow, that is a pretty serious situation. Too bad it only exists withing the confines of your mind and not in actual real life. And tell me, would you be okay with me JAILING you because i disliked YOUR attitude? NO? but okay for these kids cause they're "punks" and respect totally isn't a two-way street right?
2012-08-11 05:11:54 PM  
1 votes:
That's a lot of words to use when they could have just said "uppity".

Mississippi: Making West Virginia look good by comparison since 1861
2012-08-11 05:06:51 PM  
1 votes:

just_intonation: So, here's the real problem: lack of parenting.

These parents raise these kids without discipline or moral standards, then send them off to school to learn how to be better hoodlums, and so they can pawn off their responsibilities on the 'gubmint'. The schools are not equipped to deal with the behavioral issues, and they have to turn to the police to enforce order and discipline.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the kids being disciplined by courts, and if that means incarceration of some sort, that's fine by me. While they're at it, they should also incarcerate the parents and/or otherwise hold them responsible for their kids' behavior. Of course, in this liberal state, there is no accountability or personal or familial responsibility -- and that's the real problem.

If it just so happens that the majority of the kids who have had no parental involvement or discipline are of color, that's not racism; it's reality.

/why, yes, my children are well-behaved in school
//they know what the consequences of their actions are


You are a terrible person. I hope one day you realize that, and feel very, very bad for a long time. And then try to do something to make up for your failure as a human being.
2012-08-11 04:42:12 PM  
1 votes:

just_intonation: No, I was serious. Decent parenting should not be a conservatives-only value, but apparently it is.

And I'm referring to the country, not the state of Mississippi, which is too ignorant to know what the hell it is.


Are you retarded? Most of the fark ups I know came from conservative (socially/religious) homes.
And this country is the furthest right you can be and somehow still be considered a first world country (even though at this point we're a joke and the bridge between first world and third world, on our way to third maybe).
Our two political parties are conservative (D, this may be changing soon but at the moment it stands) and far right fascists (R).
Maybe you'd be happy in a good conservative state like Iran or Saudi Arabia?
2012-08-11 03:51:18 PM  
1 votes:

poe_zlaw: I dont see why the US just doesnt split up. Like Europe but with more crime.

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I'd appreciate NV not being lumped in with Arizona and Utah. We're really pretty decent people.
2012-08-11 03:45:24 PM  
1 votes:

ttc2301: Meridian isn't predominatly white. The school admins aren't predominatly white. I hate to fark up your socially conscious outrage here, but it's not what you think.


It's true; it doesn't matter how many times a race's youth are painted with a broad brush, doesn't matter that popular culture stereotypes them and pushes them in a certain direction. In their hearts, they always know that's not what they are, not the only option available to them. They need no local role models, no fair shake from the police. They cannot be brainwashed or pressured. They are better and stronger people than whites, with our bullying, peer pressure, our kids who grow up thinking TV stars are role models.

ITT: Racists think blacks are ubermenschen.
2012-08-11 03:44:33 PM  
1 votes:

xynix: brerrabbit: Where the fark do school districts get the idea that they can do farked up shiat like this?

This kinda happened in Virginia as well. Where judges were sending kids to private prisons and taking kickbacks. Though there is no evidence this is the case here but I would certainly not be surprised if it was.


It's actually the county sheriffs that are encouraging this. There aren't enough prison beds in Mississippi, so state prisoners are housed in county jails. The state pays a high per diem for this, and the sheriffs get lots of $$ in their budgets and wallets. County jail construction is a growth industry in MS and Louisiana.
Plus, they rent out "work details" to local businesses and farms. 21st Century slavery.
2012-08-11 03:30:10 PM  
1 votes:
Note quizzical expression on school administrators' faces when they were told that their students have civil rights to violate.
2012-08-11 03:28:58 PM  
1 votes:
I'm okay with trying anything to knock some sense into these kids. It isn't happening at home. They get out of school and move into their adult lives completely unemployable. Sagging pants is even the half of it. Try to tell them nicely that they are not doing a work task right and here's the right way, and they are in your face screaming that you're disrespecting them. Show up when they want. Steal anything that isn't tied down. Of course, every 15 minutes you have to tell them to pull up their pants. I say Meridian Schools are trying their best to work through the lack of parenting, kids with the social skills of drunken baboons, and the glorification of the gangsta lifestyle. Trying to get through to them before there is another generation of drains on society that are good for nothing but sitting on the stoop drinking malt liquor, crying about the man keeping them down while collecting assistance or dealing.
2012-08-11 03:25:23 PM  
1 votes:
This is a state where Morgan Freeman has to offer to foot the bill for a public high school to even attempt a desegregated prom.

The ground may not turn to glass if we detonate a nuclear weapon there, but I doubt anyone outside Alabama or Tennessee will weep.
2012-08-11 03:06:48 PM  
1 votes:

xynix: This kinda happened in Virginia as well. Where judges were sending kids to private prisons and taking kickbacks. Though there is no evidence this is the case here but I would certainly not be surprised if it was.


Nope, that was in Pennsylvania.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal
2012-08-11 03:02:58 PM  
1 votes:
Headline: Feds Authorities in Meridian, Miss. Violated Rights of Black Children
So if the population is 62% black, that leaves 38% something else. They are trying to tell me that there has never been anyone's rights, other then blacks, violated? I've got to throw the BS flag on the headline, it's racist.
2012-08-11 03:01:42 PM  
1 votes:
This is why we can't have nice things.
2012-08-11 02:47:20 PM  
1 votes:
Things really have changed. When I was a kid, the rest of the students just mercilessly ridiculed students who farted in class. Nobody was arrested.
2012-08-11 02:43:32 PM  
1 votes:

fnordfocus: brerrabbit: Where the fark do school districts get the idea that they can do farked up shiat like this?

Because they get away with it.

School administrators and law enforcement are pretty much untouchable.


It's the police and judges who really screwed up here:

"By policy and practice, [the Meridian Police Department] MPD automatically arrests all students referred to MPD by the District. The children arrested by MPD are then sent to the County juvenile justice system, where existing due process protections are illusory and inadequate. The Youth Court places children on probation, and the terms of the probation set by the Youth Court and DYS require children on probation to serve any suspensions from school incarcerated in the juvenile detention center."
2012-08-11 01:05:08 PM  
1 votes:

ZAZ: xynix

Do you mean Pennsylvania "kids for cash", which resulted in federal prison sentences for state judges, or was there another case in Virginia?


Yeah that one.. In that other Virginia know as Pennsylvania.
2012-08-11 11:17:07 AM  
1 votes:

brerrabbit: Where the fark do school districts get the idea that they can do farked up shiat like this?


This is Mississippi. The only thing exceeding their ignorance is their racism.
 
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