sweetmelissa31: "Verily, tho one may be distracted in one's carriage when a maiden inserteth her hand into one's trousers, still it should not be punished by law." -Benjamin Franklin
Dogberry: Want to see drivers policing themselves? Head out sometime when lightning has taken out the traffic signals and if it still seems like a good idea to you, then we can talk.
Karac: Dogberry: Want to see drivers policing themselves? Head out sometime when lightning has taken out the traffic signals and if it still seems like a good idea to you, then we can talk.A lack of traffic control can actually produce fairly good drivers. This video, for instance has zero crashes or fatalities; although it does have very many close calls. I believe it is some kind of darwinian effect, which would however limit it's applicability in most of the US.
mahuika: And as intelligent, rational human beings who live in a free society, is it too much to ask that we just police ourselves?That's what I've been saying all along! Why must we live in this society obsessed with "law" and "order", and labels like "murder" and "rape" and "breaking and entering"? Ben Franklin weeps, you Authoritarian louses
themindiswatching: The founders didn't intend on airplanes, should those be banned too?
vernonFL: [facultywp.ccri.edu image 500x397]"A hoy hoy! Douche here."
Karac: If you asked one of the founding fathers if it was OK to drive a team of horses down main street with your eyes closed, I'm pretty sure they'd say no.
Lsherm: I always wondered what horses would do if they were pulling a carriage and you aren't paying attention. Do they just keep going in a straight line until they get tired?
Karac: A lack of traffic control can actually produce fairly good drivers. This video, for instance has zero crashes or fatalities;
MaudlinMutantMollusk: This is why the Republicans are a permanent minority party in California
mrjared: Oh look, it's farking Tim Donnelly. This guy is clown shoes.
had98c: Who cares what the founders thought/wanted/intended anyway? They've been gone for almost 200 years, they're no longer relevant. It's our country now, not theirs.
impaler: DONNELLY: And I think the fact that you might cause a death, someone else's death or your own, is such a powerful prohibiter of that, that we really don't need to be increasing the fine. And I don't think we need to have the cops pulling people over and giving them texting tickets.If the fact that you might cause a death, someone else's death or your own, is such a powerful prohibiter, cops would have no one to pull over.
Nem Wan: I have no problem with people being pulled over for even slightly erratic driving, but targeting the activity of texting specifically, when there are so many ways to be distracted while driving, is remarkably arbitrary authoritarianism. Especially in jurisdictions that leave other cellphone use legal. This is politics, not science.
Jim_Callahan: The thing about texting while driving is that it's absolutely, completely effort-free to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you were actually doing it
Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: I'm more shocked that California has a fine on the books that's only $30.I ran a short red one time and got dinged for like $400.
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