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2012-08-10 03:46:27 PM  
It ain't just Kentucky, subby.

When the littlebopper was still officially "Boy Doe", before the adoption, we enrolled him in the WIC program because hey, formula is expensive, and since he was an indigent ward of the county, being a foundling and all, he was eligible, even if by our income we weren't (we stopped getting it the day he was adopted).

One of the things you had to do was fill out a reasonably extensive diet sheet, based upon their age. In the drinks section along with things like juice, milk, and water it listed soda, beer, wine, and coffee. I thought they were joking, but no, one of the ladies said that sometimes they see parents listing that stuff because "it was the only thing in the house".

And this is in New York State. Fairly prosperous (at the time) upstate New York.
 
2012-08-10 03:58:19 PM  
Don't leave your scattergun loaded and nearby them thar yung uns.
 
2012-08-10 04:10:24 PM  
www.augenblickstudios.com
 
2012-08-10 04:20:17 PM  

dittybopper: It ain't just Kentucky, subby.

When the littlebopper was still officially "Boy Doe", before the adoption, we enrolled him in the WIC program because hey, formula is expensive, and since he was an indigent ward of the county, being a foundling and all, he was eligible, even if by our income we weren't (we stopped getting it the day he was adopted).

One of the things you had to do was fill out a reasonably extensive diet sheet, based upon their age. In the drinks section along with things like juice, milk, and water it listed soda, beer, wine, and coffee. I thought they were joking, but no, one of the ladies said that sometimes they see parents listing that stuff because "it was the only thing in the house".

And this is in New York State. Fairly prosperous (at the time) upstate New York.


You could afford to feed your child, but opted to use WIC? Wow.
 
2012-08-10 04:23:33 PM  
Is bourbon ok?
 
2012-08-10 04:24:52 PM  
"Garbage in garbage can? Makes sense."
 
2012-08-10 04:25:04 PM  
Why do Kentuckians hate electrolytes?

/Soon ...
 
2012-08-10 04:25:38 PM  

TheDumbBlonde: dittybopper: It ain't just Kentucky, subby.

When the littlebopper was still officially "Boy Doe", before the adoption, we enrolled him in the WIC program because hey, formula is expensive, and since he was an indigent ward of the county, being a foundling and all, he was eligible, even if by our income we weren't (we stopped getting it the day he was adopted).

One of the things you had to do was fill out a reasonably extensive diet sheet, based upon their age. In the drinks section along with things like juice, milk, and water it listed soda, beer, wine, and coffee. I thought they were joking, but no, one of the ladies said that sometimes they see parents listing that stuff because "it was the only thing in the house".

And this is in New York State. Fairly prosperous (at the time) upstate New York.

You could afford to feed your child, but opted to use WIC? Wow.


Reading is funDUHmental.
 
2012-08-10 04:25:43 PM  
Don't forget to invite your mother AND your mother-in-law to the baby shower.


/assuming they're different people
 
2012-08-10 04:28:56 PM  

MBooda: Don't forget to invite your mother AND your mother-in-law to the baby shower.


/assuming they're different people


They're one and the same person!
/we'll sit her right next to Aunty Grandma!
 
2012-08-10 04:30:42 PM  

TheDumbBlonde: dittybopper: It ain't just Kentucky, subby.

When the littlebopper was still officially "Boy Doe", before the adoption, we enrolled him in the WIC program because hey, formula is expensive, and since he was an indigent ward of the county, being a foundling and all, he was eligible, even if by our income we weren't (we stopped getting it the day he was adopted).

One of the things you had to do was fill out a reasonably extensive diet sheet, based upon their age. In the drinks section along with things like juice, milk, and water it listed soda, beer, wine, and coffee. I thought they were joking, but no, one of the ladies said that sometimes they see parents listing that stuff because "it was the only thing in the house".

And this is in New York State. Fairly prosperous (at the time) upstate New York.

You could afford to feed your child, but opted to use WIC? Wow.


It's not his kid, why shouldn't the state pay?
 
2012-08-10 04:31:19 PM  
But Brawndo is OK, right?
 
2012-08-10 04:32:06 PM  
I was watching some expose on YouTube... was it 60 Minutes?... about how children are raised in Appalachia. I always thought the reference to Mountain Dew in baby bottles was a joke. It's not, it's so sad.

///DNfeellikeRTFA
/that episode of 60 Minutes was eye opening, and sad
 
2012-08-10 04:34:50 PM  
Hey Brandine...
 
2012-08-10 04:34:52 PM  
Sure but if you breastfeed, your video gets plastered all over the internets.
 
2012-08-10 04:35:11 PM  

TheDumbBlonde: You could afford to feed your child, but opted to use WIC? Wow.


They also paid us for his clothes, diapers, paid his day care expenses, and he was on Medicaid. And we got a daily rate for taking care of him. It's called "foster care". Generally, we want to make sure kids left anonymously at a hospital when they are 5 hours old get the best possible start in life so they don't end up like Richard B. Riddick.

And you know what? We had to put up with a lot of shiat, too. Like being accused of committing fraud because the prescription for an antibiotic had his name on it, while the Medicaid card said 'Boy Doe'. And having to jump through a bunch of hoops to get him a social security number when we had finalized the adoption. Add to that the constant worry that the birth parents might come back for him before their parental rights were terminated, and of course the fact that we were poked and prodded, finger printed, credit checked, background checked, and all sorts of mean, nasty, ugly things both before we were certified as foster parents, and then again as part of the adoption process.

In sum, I don't feel bad, especially since we didn't have the option of breast feeding, and since legally we had pretty much zero rights in any major decisions. We had to ask the county for permission for him to get tubes in his ears to stop recurring ear infections, for instance. We adopted him at 18 months old. The moment we adopted him, all those benefits stopped, as they should have, but we also got all the rights that a birth parent has, so I consider it a fair and equitable trade.
 
2012-08-10 04:35:12 PM  
Everyone knows Ale-8 is what you put in bottles.
 
2012-08-10 04:35:30 PM  
But what about Mountain Dew and Red Bull? Every growing kid needs their Go-Go Juice.
 
2012-08-10 04:36:59 PM  
My gf works at an "urban" daycare and Mountain Dew, as well as many other varieties of soda are a staple of many of the kids' diets.
 
2012-08-10 04:37:55 PM  
Kool-Aid in the bottle. You don't want caffeine keeping your little shiat-machine up all night.
 
2012-08-10 04:38:50 PM  

TheDumbBlonde: You could afford to feed your child, but opted to use WIC? Wow.


You have a very appropriate Nom de Fark.
 
2012-08-10 04:39:40 PM  
Mitt Romney approves; this is teh working class he is killing. Face is boy is apple,duh!
 
2012-08-10 04:39:41 PM  
FTA: The problem isn't lack of doctors or even access to standard OB-GYN service. The problem, they realized, begins in the mouths of their patients. "We saw that our women weren't getting preventative [dental] screening. Gum infections, decayed teeth that weren't attended to so that by the end of pregnancy they would have full-blown abscesses; we would just hope that didn't put them into premature labor."

[...]

"Kentucky's oral health? It's poor and that's probably being kind," Ebersole said in an interview last month in Lexington


Sounds like Kentucky too STOOPID to fluoridate its water.

Oh, wait...


Kentucky Fluoride Enforcement and Surveillance Program

Community Water Fluoridation Program

Fluoridation is mandated by Kentucky Administrative Regulation 115:010, with participating water plants
required to perform a daily fluoride test. Plants must submit two samples a month (usually the 1st and 3rd
week) to a state certified laboratory for testing. The average of these two samples must range between 0.80
and 1.4 ppm to be in compliance with Kentucky Administrative Regulations and water plants must also
pass an annual fluoridation inspection. The regulatory categories are based upon the population served by
the water plants with details as described in Table 1. Additional details concerning regulations can be obtained
by contacting the community fluoridation administrator listed at the conclusion of this article.

END QUOTE

So water fluoridation is MANDATORY in KY, yet these wimmins STILL have toof problems?

Unpossible.
 
2012-08-10 04:39:44 PM  
Upward of a fifth - sometimes a quarter - of the babies they were delivering at the highly regarded Trover Clinic were below weight and premature.

Meth.
 
2012-08-10 04:41:15 PM  
So in some of the most conservative areas of the country, the families are on Medicare. But they hate Obama Bucks, Obamacare, Planned Parenthood, etc. It's okay to LIVE off of the government if you say you hate the liberals and their socialist agenda and continue to vote against your own self interest.

Keep farking that chicken and see what you get, dumbasses.
 
2012-08-10 04:41:27 PM  
Being as this was Kentucky, the "Mountain Dew" they reference could be this.

www.noramill.com
 
2012-08-10 04:43:34 PM  
It's the celebration of ignorance that has become more and more popular
 
2012-08-10 04:44:05 PM  
Great, next you'll be telling me not to give them "red bull".
 
2012-08-10 04:44:07 PM  
< unnecessarily joining threadjack without invite cuz this is fark n shiat >

dittybopper: the constant worry that the birth parents might come back for him before their parental rights were terminated


Ya' know, I was tempted to side with the original criticizer, as, at first read, taking the WIC if you didn't absolutely need it seemed a little douchey...

... but this part of the story changed my opinion 180*.

You've done a wonderful thing. It's none of my business, but I might suggest that, in the future, if you mention the WIC aspect, you might want to include that nugget at the same time. I just can't imagine the stress of that, and that factor, even without the rest of the hassles, seems to justify taking the state's money.

You've done a phenomenal thing, and, at least if all the CSB is true and not some form of FarkAlt-AW-Trolling or something, you are above reproach, at least in this aspect of your life, good sir or madam. Here's hoping you have great weekend plans.

/ knows several people who've adopted
// always enraged by the amount of shiat people who want to adopt have to go through -- to get a kid no one else wants! And I thought it was bad when I went looking for a dog!
 
2012-08-10 04:44:40 PM  

Phony_Soldier: Great, next you'll be telling me not to give them "red bull".


Phony_Soldier: Great, next you'll be telling me not to give them "red bull".


It's got vitamins, biatches.
 
2012-08-10 04:44:42 PM  

farm machine: Being as this was Kentucky, the "Mountain Dew" they reference could be this.

[www.noramill.com image 448x333]


Georgia moonshine?
 
2012-08-10 04:46:24 PM  
hey subby, don't knock my kink!

oh wait, actual babies? when i used to live in rural north carolina i'd hear all kinds of radio Public Interest commercial spots about various ways to keep your baby from coming out retarded. did you know that you're not supposed to smoke or shoot up drugs while you're pregnant? a lot of mountain folk don't.

/ don't put chocolate pudding in diapers.
 
2012-08-10 04:47:11 PM  
Well, it is nectar of the 'tards.
 
2012-08-10 04:48:21 PM  
Someone get the DEET, we got a problem in this thread.
 
2012-08-10 04:48:48 PM  

farm machine: Being as this was Kentucky, the "Mountain Dew" they reference could be this.

[www.noramill.com image 448x333]


Mountain Dew.
 
2012-08-10 04:50:31 PM  

Jument: Is bourbon ok?


Good God no. Mountain Dew goes with scotch.
 
2012-08-10 04:50:58 PM  

Amos Quito: FTA: The problem isn't lack of doctors or even access to standard OB-GYN service. The problem, they realized, begins in the mouths of their patients. "We saw that our women weren't getting preventative [dental] screening. Gum infections, decayed teeth that weren't attended to so that by the end of pregnancy they would have full-blown abscesses; we would just hope that didn't put them into premature labor."

[...]

"Kentucky's oral health? It's poor and that's probably being kind," Ebersole said in an interview last month in Lexington


Sounds like Kentucky too STOOPID to fluoridate its water.

Oh, wait...


Kentucky Fluoride Enforcement and Surveillance Program

Community Water Fluoridation Program

Fluoridation is mandated by Kentucky Administrative Regulation 115:010, with participating water plants
required to perform a daily fluoride test. Plants must submit two samples a month (usually the 1st and 3rd
week) to a state certified laboratory for testing. The average of these two samples must range between 0.80
and 1.4 ppm to be in compliance with Kentucky Administrative Regulations and water plants must also
pass an annual fluoridation inspection. The regulatory categories are based upon the population served by
the water plants with details as described in Table 1. Additional details concerning regulations can be obtained
by contacting the community fluoridation administrator listed at the conclusion of this article.

END QUOTE

So water fluoridation is MANDATORY in KY, yet these wimmins STILL have toof problems?

Unpossible.


They flouridate the municipal water. If you don't live in city limits, you drink well water. That's only flouridated naturally, if at all. People with these kinds of problems are usually rural. They drink out of a wellpipe most of the time. Some still drink from streams.

And don't knock well water. I grew up on it, and prefer the taste. My teeth are fine, thanks for asking.
 
2012-08-10 04:51:43 PM  

farm machine: Being as this was Kentucky, the "Mountain Dew" they reference could be this.

[www.noramill.com image 448x333]


Side note: Did you know that Mountain Dew (the soft drink) was originally created as a mixer for Bourbon drinks? I found this out retroactively after using it as such for years, and being mocked quite a bit for the choice.

It really suits bourbon.
 
2012-08-10 04:52:08 PM  

SFSailor: Ya' know, I was tempted to side with the original criticizer, as, at first read, taking the WIC if you didn't absolutely need it seemed a little douchey...


I dunno. I mean, I'm not a Kentucky taxpayer, but if I was, "people taking WIC for their adopted kid" isn't all that high on my list of problems that need solving. They're getting something done that needs doing, and I want them to be zealously advancing their ward's benefit anyways...
 
2012-08-10 04:55:07 PM  
 
2012-08-10 04:57:06 PM  

dittybopper: TheDumbBlonde: You could afford to feed your child, but opted to use WIC? Wow.

They also paid us for his clothes, diapers, paid his day care expenses, and he was on Medicaid. And we got a daily rate for taking care of him. It's called "foster care". Generally, we want to make sure kids left anonymously at a hospital when they are 5 hours old get the best possible start in life so they don't end up like Richard B. Riddick.

And you know what? We had to put up with a lot of shiat, too. Like being accused of committing fraud because the prescription for an antibiotic had his name on it, while the Medicaid card said 'Boy Doe'. And having to jump through a bunch of hoops to get him a social security number when we had finalized the adoption. Add to that the constant worry that the birth parents might come back for him before their parental rights were terminated, and of course the fact that we were poked and prodded, finger printed, credit checked, background checked, and all sorts of mean, nasty, ugly things both before we were certified as foster parents, and then again as part of the adoption process.

In sum, I don't feel bad, especially since we didn't have the option of breast feeding, and since legally we had pretty much zero rights in any major decisions. We had to ask the county for permission for him to get tubes in his ears to stop recurring ear infections, for instance. We adopted him at 18 months old. The moment we adopted him, all those benefits stopped, as they should have, but we also got all the rights that a birth parent has, so I consider it a fair and equitable trade.


What you did was outstanding.
 
2012-08-10 04:57:07 PM  
If you're ever bored or want to get really depressed about humanity Netflix the documentary "The Wonderful Whites of West Virginia" (I think that was the title). It is both entertaining and horrifying in a way I cannot adequately describe.
 
2012-08-10 04:57:12 PM  
I knew a nurse who gave her 2 year old Mountain Dew. The kid would scream bloody murder at the sight of a urine sample
 
2012-08-10 04:57:33 PM  

WhippingBoy: farm machine: Being as this was Kentucky, the "Mountain Dew" they reference could be this.

[www.noramill.com image 448x333]

Georgia moonshine?


THIS:

www.bourbonblog.com
 
2012-08-10 04:58:32 PM  

Lone Stranger: But Brawndo is OK, right?


it's what younguns crave...
 
2012-08-10 04:59:22 PM  

T.M.S.: dittybopper: TheDumbBlonde: You could afford to feed your child, but opted to use WIC? Wow.

They also paid us for his clothes, diapers, paid his day care expenses, and he was on Medicaid. And we got a daily rate for taking care of him. It's called "foster care". Generally, we want to make sure kids left anonymously at a hospital when they are 5 hours old get the best possible start in life so they don't end up like Richard B. Riddick.

And you know what? We had to put up with a lot of shiat, too. Like being accused of committing fraud because the prescription for an antibiotic had his name on it, while the Medicaid card said 'Boy Doe'. And having to jump through a bunch of hoops to get him a social security number when we had finalized the adoption. Add to that the constant worry that the birth parents might come back for him before their parental rights were terminated, and of course the fact that we were poked and prodded, finger printed, credit checked, background checked, and all sorts of mean, nasty, ugly things both before we were certified as foster parents, and then again as part of the adoption process.

In sum, I don't feel bad, especially since we didn't have the option of breast feeding, and since legally we had pretty much zero rights in any major decisions. We had to ask the county for permission for him to get tubes in his ears to stop recurring ear infections, for instance. We adopted him at 18 months old. The moment we adopted him, all those benefits stopped, as they should have, but we also got all the rights that a birth parent has, so I consider it a fair and equitable trade.

What you did was outstanding.


As an adoptee, let me second that. God bless you.
 
2012-08-10 04:59:44 PM  

WhippingBoy: Georgia moonshine?


Georgia Moonshine is the best Moonshine, come on over to Dawsonville to the Annual Moonshine Festival oh and on August 1st this year the license was finally granted for the Moonshine Distillery located inside of City Hall.

Oh and on the soda in baby bottles front I will quote Jeff Foxworthy, "Show me a 2 year old running around a flea market in nothing but a diaper drinking Coca-Cola out of a baby bottle and I'll show you a future NASCAR fan."
 
2012-08-10 05:00:38 PM  
TheDumbBlonde: You could afford to feed your child, but opted to use WIC? Wow.

They adopted a kid that was abandoned. They get a Hero tag, not your condescending, politically driven snark.



/you might be troll
//you still need to be told to STFD and STFU
 
2012-08-10 05:00:42 PM  

TheDumbBlonde: You could afford to feed your child, but opted to use WIC? Wow.


I worked as a cashier and I seen people that own small businesses use WIC
/Can't say I blame them I had to cut back on things(alcohol) buying formula
 
2012-08-10 05:01:09 PM  
How about Old E 800?
 
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