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(Discover)   Seen that awesome pic of Earth, Venus, and Jupiter as seen from Mars? Yeah, about that   (blogs.discovermagazine.com) divider line 58
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2012-08-10 03:23:13 PM
itsrealtomedamnit.jpg
 
2012-08-10 03:29:54 PM
He could tell from some of the pixels.

/and from seeing quite a few 'shops in his time
 
2012-08-10 03:31:22 PM
onter.net
 
2012-08-10 03:37:33 PM
At least this one is real. Right?

johnkary.net

I'm kinda ok with people being forced from their comfort zones and having to deal with the fact that we live on a "pale blue dot".
 
2012-08-10 03:38:12 PM
The reason I was wondering if it was legit is because I thought Mars was on the other side of the solar system now which is why the transmissions from the rover take 14 minutes or whatever and it seemed odd that earth would show up that bright.
 
2012-08-10 03:43:01 PM

meat0918: At least this one is real. Right?

[johnkary.net image 439x596]

I'm kinda ok with people being forced from their comfort zones and having to deal with the fact that we live on a "pale blue dot".


Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe and Lao-Tzu and Einstein and Morobuto and Buddy Holly and Aristophenes .. and all of this .. all of this was for nothing unless we go to the stars.

 
2012-08-10 03:46:55 PM
my problem was with jupiter it would be very far away
 
2012-08-10 03:47:42 PM

Magorn: Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe and Lao-Tzu and Einstein and Morobuto and Buddy Holly and Aristophenes .. and all of this .. all of this was for nothing unless we go to the stars.


It'll also take Snooki.

I'm okay with that.
 
2012-08-10 03:49:22 PM

Shazam999: itsrealtomedamnit.jpg


its_a_fake.gif
 
2012-08-10 03:52:36 PM
Venus and Mars are all right tonight.
 
2012-08-10 04:03:23 PM
img839.imageshack.us

Seems legit.
 
2012-08-10 04:05:51 PM
Strings! I see strings!

/someone shop Phantom of Krankor and Prince of Space's spaceships into the picture
 
2012-08-10 04:06:52 PM
scienceblogs.com


Looks legit to me.
 
2012-08-10 04:18:14 PM

Magorn: meat0918: At least this one is real. Right?

[johnkary.net image 439x596]

I'm kinda ok with people being forced from their comfort zones and having to deal with the fact that we live on a "pale blue dot".


Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe and Lao-Tzu and Einstein and Morobuto and Buddy Holly and Aristophenes .. and all of this .. all of this was for nothing unless we go to the stars.


That was always an extremely lame quote.

So, what's gonna happen when entropy is achieved and the universe suffers heat death? Oh right, everything will be lost anyway.

Nihilism for the win!!
 
2012-08-10 04:18:34 PM
"the clouds are too numerous"

...wouldn't even one cloud be too numerous??
 
2012-08-10 04:18:56 PM
Man, that Phil Plait guy is a real kill joy. He must be blast at parties.
Next thing you know he will be telling us that Galaxy Quest is not real.
You mean they are not ALL "historical documents." Surely, you don't think Gilligan's Island is a...
 
2012-08-10 04:20:33 PM

sure haven't: "the clouds are too numerous"

...wouldn't even one cloud be too numerous??


Dust clouds. I hear it's very windy on Mars.
 
2012-08-10 04:20:53 PM

NutznGum: [img839.imageshack.us image 640x512]

Seems legit.


This gave me a funny
 
2012-08-10 04:22:40 PM

sure haven't: "the clouds are too numerous"

...wouldn't even one cloud be too numerous??


Clouds on Mars are generally just CO2 caused by melting dry ice on the ice caps.
 
2012-08-10 04:25:23 PM

badLogic: Surely, you don't think Gilligan's Island is a...


*moan* those poor people...
 
2012-08-10 04:25:40 PM
Look to the lower right corner of the image;

Actually, the letters are at the lower left of the image.
 
2012-08-10 04:31:15 PM
That's nothing... someone on FB posted this view of the Milky Way as seen from Mars.

lolsnaps.com
 
2012-08-10 04:33:45 PM

rocky_howard: Magorn: meat0918: At least this one is real. Right?

[johnkary.net image 439x596]

I'm kinda ok with people being forced from their comfort zones and having to deal with the fact that we live on a "pale blue dot".


Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe and Lao-Tzu and Einstein and Morobuto and Buddy Holly and Aristophenes .. and all of this .. all of this was for nothing unless we go to the stars.

That was always an extremely lame quote.

So, what's gonna happen when entropy is achieved and the universe suffers heat death? Oh right, everything will be lost anyway.

Nihilism for the win!!


t2.gstatic.com
 
2012-08-10 04:38:46 PM

WTP 2: my problem was with jupiter it would be very far away


That was my problem with it, too, but according to the article planetarium software was probably used. Don't know if it misdraws the size of the objects so they're visible or not -- probably does. Then again, Jupiter and Mars can get close to each other. Of course, for the Earth to be in the frame, the Earth would need to be between Mars and Jupiter, which implies Mars is farther away from Jupiter at that point, which would make it much smaller, as it's certainly not as its closest point relative to it over all.
 
2012-08-10 04:39:31 PM
torwars.com
 
2012-08-10 04:42:29 PM

NashMcNash: [torwars.com image 500x333]


Fake. I can tell by midi-chlorians.
 
2012-08-10 04:57:08 PM

sure haven't: "the clouds are too numerous"

...wouldn't even one cloud be too numerous??


no. They usually look like this (cirrus)

cache.boston.com

and are made of CO2 and a teensy weensy bit of H2O.
Surface water in abundance is what we really need to find. We've know there is a trace in the atmosphere for years.
 
2012-08-10 05:07:12 PM

Ambitwistor: He could tell from some of the pixels.

/and from seeing quite a few 'shops in his time


Damn you!!! (shaking tiny fist)
 
2012-08-10 05:29:36 PM

rocky_howard: That was always an extremely lame quote.


Religion is full of them.
 
2012-08-10 05:32:41 PM
Welp question asked and answered, thanks guys. You learn something new every day.

/even at 31
//shaddup
 
2012-08-10 05:50:30 PM

rocky_howard: Magorn: meat0918: At least this one is real. Right?

[johnkary.net image 439x596]

I'm kinda ok with people being forced from their comfort zones and having to deal with the fact that we live on a "pale blue dot".


Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe and Lao-Tzu and Einstein and Morobuto and Buddy Holly and Aristophenes .. and all of this .. all of this was for nothing unless we go to the stars.

That was always an extremely lame quote.

So, what's gonna happen when entropy is achieved and the universe suffers heat death? Oh right, everything will be lost anyway.

Nihilism for the win!!


You must not have any imagination.
 
2012-08-10 06:24:43 PM

FitzShivering: WTP 2: my problem was with jupiter it would be very far away

That was my problem with it, too, but according to the article planetarium software was probably used. Don't know if it misdraws the size of the objects so they're visible or not -- probably does. Then again, Jupiter and Mars can get close to each other. Of course, for the Earth to be in the frame, the Earth would need to be between Mars and Jupiter, which implies Mars is farther away from Jupiter at that point, which would make it much smaller, as it's certainly not as its closest point relative to it over all.


Jupiter is very very very big. Even on earth, though it is many millions of miles farther away from us than Mars, it appears brighter in the sky. In fact, only Venus, the Moon, and the Sun appear brighter in the Earth's sky.

So on Mars, Jupiter would be even brighter than it is on Earth. Earth would get brighter and dimmer in the sky based on distance and phase. I am guessing, but I think it would likely at time appear brighter than Jupiter and at other times appear dimmer.
 
2012-08-10 06:24:53 PM

FitzShivering: WTP 2: my problem was with jupiter it would be very far away

That was my problem with it, too, but according to the article planetarium software was probably used. Don't know if it misdraws the size of the objects so they're visible or not -- probably does. Then again, Jupiter and Mars can get close to each other. Of course, for the Earth to be in the frame, the Earth would need to be between Mars and Jupiter, which implies Mars is farther away from Jupiter at that point, which would make it much smaller, as it's certainly not as its closest point relative to it over all.


Jupiter is very very very big. Even on earth, though it is many millions of miles farther away from us than Mars, it appears brighter in the sky. In fact, only Venus, the Moon, and the Sun appear brighter in the Earth's sky.

So on Mars, Jupiter would be even brighter than it is on Earth. Earth would get brighter and dimmer in the sky based on distance and phase. I am guessing, but I think it would likely at times appear brighter than Jupiter and at other times appear dimmer.
 
2012-08-10 06:25:48 PM
Oops. I thought you couldn't do that!
 
2012-08-10 06:56:28 PM

John Nash: Oops. I thought you couldn't do that!


Yeh so did I. Gonna have to start being careful again then.

Quantum Apostrophe: rocky_howard: That was always an extremely lame quote.

Religion is full of them.


So's your face. Shut it.
Shouldn't you be working on some kind of cure for your many terminal illnesses to stave off death for another week?
 
2012-08-10 07:00:19 PM

Slaxl: Shouldn't you be working on some kind of cure for your many terminal illnesses to stave off death for another week?


FOR THE SPECIES!!!!
 
2012-08-10 07:57:30 PM

badLogic: Man, that Phil Plait guy is a real kill joy. He must be blast at parties.
Next thing you know he will be telling us that Galaxy Quest is not real.
You mean they are not ALL "historical documents." Surely, you don't think Gilligan's Island is a...


I'm an excellent dancer.
 
2012-08-10 07:57:42 PM

rocky_howard: That was always an extremely lame quote.


That quote lead me to getting my bachelor's in physics and enrolled in a Ph.D program. To be more specific, that quote inspired me to take an astronomy class at community college, and everything followed naturally from there.

So, go fark yourself, imo.
 
2012-08-10 08:04:35 PM

rocky_howard: So, what's gonna happen when entropy is achieved and the universe suffers heat death? Oh right, everything will be lost anyway.

Nihilism for the win!!


Actually, stars form and die fairly regularly, we could outlive our sun by potentially trillions of years if we spread far enough. Though we'll probably be about a million different species by then, so saying "humanity" will survive is maybe severe wishful thinking.

The heat death of the universe is also an extreme end condition prediction, it's likely we've missed something. Even if we haven't, we've got, what, a few hundred trillion years to come up with an engineering workaround.
 
2012-08-10 08:24:14 PM

jack21221: rocky_howard: That was always an extremely lame quote.

That quote lead me to getting my bachelor's in physics and enrolled in a Ph.D program. To be more specific, that quote inspired me to take an astronomy class at community college, and everything followed naturally from there.

So, go fark yourself, imo.


So you're learning that none of the delusional space nutter fantasies are possible, right? All it takes is high-school physics, after all.
 
2012-08-10 08:55:39 PM
I think the more important issue is that we have bigots who belive pluto isn't a planet. It didn't have a choice, it was born that way.
 
2012-08-10 09:04:40 PM
Three orbs? I'll be in my debunk.

moviecultists.com
 
2012-08-10 09:13:21 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: jack21221: rocky_howard: That was always an extremely lame quote.

That quote lead me to getting my bachelor's in physics and enrolled in a Ph.D program. To be more specific, that quote inspired me to take an astronomy class at community college, and everything followed naturally from there.

So, go fark yourself, imo.

So you're learning that none of the delusional space nutter fantasies are possible, right? All it takes is high-school physics, after all.


Are they as impossible as extending life for thousands of years?

Quantum Apostrophe
(favorite: Idiot. Believes in life extension and that nothing useful ever came out of space exploration)
 
2012-08-10 09:19:56 PM

jack21221: rocky_howard: That was always an extremely lame quote.

That quote lead me to getting my bachelor's in physics and enrolled in a Ph.D program. To be more specific, that quote inspired me to take an astronomy class at community college, and everything followed naturally from there.

So, go fark yourself, imo.


How's that "taking things personal even when people aren't talking about you" working out for you?

Seriously, what kind of reaction is that? Nobody cares about the personal value the quote has for you.

You have just demonstrating having the thinnest skin and also not very different from religious fanatics who get offended even for the slightest things not related to their religion.
 
2012-08-10 09:26:51 PM

Jim_Callahan: Actually, stars form and die fairly regularly, we could outlive our sun by potentially trillions of years if we spread far enough. Though we'll probably be about a million different species by then, so saying "humanity" will survive is maybe severe wishful thinking.


Tell me something I don't know :P

There's also the possibility of let's say, a blast from the sun that sens us back to the stone age. Most if not all of the things mentioned in the quote will be lost, especially if the EMP hits after we've digitized everything. Yeah, I know you can protect against EMP, but still, shiat's gonna go down.

Or if a big solar flare hits tomorrow and fries the planet.

Or a gamma burst (this is very unlikely though).

The heat death of the universe is also an extreme end condition prediction, it's likely we've missed something. Even if we haven't, we've got, what, a few hundred trillion years to come up with an engineering workaround.

Either way, at some point the universe is going to end. Unless there are other universes, we're boned in the long run anyway.

I'd love to be able to experience it all though. See where the human race goes. It's my utmost dream. Just see it, even if I'm not part of it.

So I hope after I die my essence keeps floating somewhere as energy and I'm capable of travelling through space as I please.
 
2012-08-10 09:31:16 PM

The Bad Astronomer: badLogic: Man, that Phil Plait guy is a real kill joy. He must be blast at parties.
Next thing you know he will be telling us that Galaxy Quest is not real.
You mean they are not ALL "historical documents." Surely, you don't think Gilligan's Island is a...

I'm an excellent dancer.


Do you bring your own stripper pole?
 
2012-08-10 09:39:56 PM

rocky_howard: jack21221: rocky_howard: That was always an extremely lame quote.

That quote lead me to getting my bachelor's in physics and enrolled in a Ph.D program. To be more specific, that quote inspired me to take an astronomy class at community college, and everything followed naturally from there.

So, go fark yourself, imo.

How's that "taking things personal even when people aren't talking about you" working out for you?

Seriously, what kind of reaction is that? Nobody cares about the personal value the quote has for you.

You have just demonstrating having the thinnest skin and also not very different from religious fanatics who get offended even for the slightest things not related to their religion.


Only delusional housewives surrounded by trinkets with embroidered lettering and half-recovered junkies at NA meetings pretend that quotes have any real value.
 
2012-08-11 12:08:57 AM
Fly me to the moon and let me play among the stars, let me see what spring is like on jupiter and mars.

/probably sucks
 
2012-08-11 12:25:11 AM
Hey Phil,

Glad to see you're here. I just posted this on your blog too, but it's definitely from Starry Night.

Here's a screenshot from my Starry Night Enthusiast 6, same view set to Mars dawn on July 2010. Different clouds, but otherwise matches this shot almost exactly. I left turned on the planet labels for ya.

Note that the "NE" marker is bumping up against exactly the same rock.

i.imgur.com
Clicky to enmarsify.
 
2012-08-11 01:27:07 AM

Carousel Beast: Quantum Apostrophe
(favorite: Idiot. Believes in life extension and that nothing useful ever came out of space exploration)


Carousel Beast: Totally misunderstands every single point I make, thinks atoms have an age, and that you can explore an infinite universe with an ape with the lifespan of a gnat, and that we haven't already extended our lifespan since the 19th century, and that space exploration came before WWII.

You're a riot. Have they loosened your leather straps yet? If you behave, they'll let you color a 1970s Gerard K O'Neill space fantasy poster.
 
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