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2012-08-10 10:01:31 AM
"The Student Bookstore, an independent Penn State store just off campus, is selling t-shirts dubbed the "NCAA Overstepping" shirt.

The Student Bookstore is not affiliated with Penn State University."

Then don't call it a Penn State bookstore, idiot. It's a State College bookstore.
 
2012-08-10 10:05:41 AM
"So, Boris, vhere did you go to school? Penn State?"

"State Penn!"

That joke about sums up what seems to be going on at the school right about now.
 
2012-08-10 10:06:37 AM
National Communist Athletics Association?

That doesn't even make a damn bit of sense.
 
2012-08-10 10:08:53 AM

Vodka Zombie: National Communist Athletics Association?

That doesn't even make a damn bit of sense.


Sure it does, in Obama's America.
 
2012-08-10 10:15:38 AM

Vodka Zombie: National Communist Athletics Association?

That doesn't even make a damn bit of sense.


One of the hallmarks of communism is sanctioning punishment for child rape cover ups.
 
2012-08-10 10:19:27 AM
Penn State cultists could at least pretend to understand and accept why the football program was punished....is that so difficult? just STFU, act all contrite and shiat and the NCAA will probably relax sanctions once everyone is distracted by the impending collapse of our entire economy.
 
2012-08-10 10:20:00 AM
Also, #seperately
 
2012-08-10 10:28:43 AM
I can't wait until their football team and fans have to go on the road in the Big 10....
 
2012-08-10 10:43:02 AM

Weaver95: Penn State cultists could at least pretend to understand and accept why the football program was punished....is that so difficult? just STFU, act all contrite and shiat and the NCAA will probably relax sanctions once everyone is distracted by the impending collapse of our entire economy.


Yeah, that's right, everyone who didn't have anything to do with the actual crime: If you're not fine with taking the NCAA cornholing, you're just as bad as JoePa!
 
2012-08-10 10:44:15 AM
The NCAA should ban them from using the name "Penn State" and all programs must refer to themselves as "Pennsylvania State University." That'll really make them go apeshiat.
 
2012-08-10 10:44:35 AM

Vodka Zombie: National Communist Athletics Association?

That doesn't even make a damn bit of sense.


Hehe, that was the same thought I had. If they were communist they would spread all of the good players to all of the teams and spread all of the punishments to all of the schools.

Stupid shirt from a store that is not a Penn State store.
 
2012-08-10 10:47:07 AM
i1247.photobucket.com

Still in shock, or waiting for a deposit.......
 
2012-08-10 10:49:44 AM

IlGreven: Weaver95: Penn State cultists could at least pretend to understand and accept why the football program was punished....is that so difficult? just STFU, act all contrite and shiat and the NCAA will probably relax sanctions once everyone is distracted by the impending collapse of our entire economy.

Yeah, that's right, everyone who didn't have anything to do with the actual crime: If you're not fine with taking the NCAA cornholing, you're just as bad as JoePa!


the NCAA sanctions were meant to address the VERY corrupt institutional culture at Penn State. they even said this during their press conference. Penn State should man up and deal with it.
 
2012-08-10 10:55:15 AM

IlGreven: Yeah, that's right, everyone who didn't have anything to do with the actual crime: If you're not fine with taking the NCAA cornholing, you're just as bad as JoePa!


Cornholing? They got off easy. Penn St should have received the death penalty,

The fact that the apologists don't understand just how bad the whole thing was is baffling. Look, a former coach raped children in your football building. The leadership of both the football team and the university knew about it and did nothing, not because they all love child rape, but because doing something would harm the football team. Reporting the crime in 1998 or 2002 would have led to a scandal that would have caused long-standing damage to the football team and therefore the university. So, they kept quiet about it and hoped it would go away, because protecting the football team was the most important thing. Their failure to fix the problem in 1998 or 2002 lead to even more children being raped.

If you disagree with that paragraph, answer me this: if a former water polo coach had raped children in the water polo showers, and the water polo leadership had covered it up for years (while more children were being raped), would Penn State still have a water polo team right now?
 
2012-08-10 10:55:18 AM

IlGreven: Weaver95: Penn State cultists could at least pretend to understand and accept why the football program was punished....is that so difficult? just STFU, act all contrite and shiat and the NCAA will probably relax sanctions once everyone is distracted by the impending collapse of our entire economy.

Yeah, that's right, everyone who didn't have anything to do with the actual crime: If you're not fine with taking the NCAA cornholing, you're just as bad as JoePa!


The crimes were committed in order to protect Penn State. If you don't put the hammer down on Penn State, others will be willing to do the same in the future at other schools -- to them it may be worth it to "fall on the sword" and cover up horrible misdeeds knowing that doing so will protect the school. The only way to keep people from doing that is to make it the "fall on the sword" hurt the school vastly more than it would protect it.
 
2012-08-10 10:56:09 AM

Shostie: Vodka Zombie: National Communist Athletics Association?

That doesn't even make a damn bit of sense.

Sure it does, in Obama's America.


Too young to remember Brian Bosworth?
 
2012-08-10 10:57:01 AM
Someone should make Penn State buttplugs and hand them out at the first game of the season.

Call 'em "Sandusky blockers", if you want.
 
2012-08-10 10:58:19 AM

meanmutton: IlGreven: Weaver95: Penn State cultists could at least pretend to understand and accept why the football program was punished....is that so difficult? just STFU, act all contrite and shiat and the NCAA will probably relax sanctions once everyone is distracted by the impending collapse of our entire economy.

Yeah, that's right, everyone who didn't have anything to do with the actual crime: If you're not fine with taking the NCAA cornholing, you're just as bad as JoePa!

The crimes were committed in order to protect Penn State. If you don't put the hammer down on Penn State, others will be willing to do the same in the future at other schools -- to them it may be worth it to "fall on the sword" and cover up horrible misdeeds knowing that doing so will protect the school. The only way to keep people from doing that is to make it the "fall on the sword" hurt the school vastly more than it would protect it.


At Penn State, they don't call it "falling on the sword", they just refer to it as rhythmic slapping sounds.
 
2012-08-10 11:00:28 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Vodka Zombie: National Communist Athletics Association?

That doesn't even make a damn bit of sense.

One of the hallmarks of communism is sanctioning punishment for child rape cover ups.


Here in America, the free market determines whether children get farked or not.

ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com
Currently, the answer is yes.
 
2012-08-10 11:00:54 AM
This culture of nearly unimaginable stupidity is exactly why the NCAA is going medieval on them.

Seriously, how demented are these people to not comprehend that THEY are directly responsible for the environment in which Sandusky could flourish??
 
2012-08-10 11:02:19 AM
They're made by a crappy t-shirt company that has the same shirt switched to appropriate colors whenever any NCAA sanctions are handed out.

ie, also available in USC. Apparently FSU had them back during their sanctions, as well.

It's a stupid t-shirt from a crappy company sold off-campus.
 
2012-08-10 11:04:32 AM

Broktun: Shostie: Vodka Zombie: National Communist Athletics Association?

That doesn't even make a damn bit of sense.

Sure it does, in Obama's America.

Too young to remember Brian Bosworth?


Can't just roll with a joke, can you?
 
2012-08-10 11:06:13 AM

VvonderJesus: The NCAA should ban them from using the name "Penn State" and all programs must refer to themselves as "Pennsylvania State University." That'll really make them go apeshiat.


So when a business commits a crime, there shouldn't be a punishment because the employees and customers would be negatively impacted?

The NCAA didn't go far enough. The cult-like culture at State College needs to change and that necessitated a couple of years completely without a football program.
 
2012-08-10 11:11:51 AM

meanmutton: IlGreven: Weaver95: Penn State cultists could at least pretend to understand and accept why the football program was punished....is that so difficult? just STFU, act all contrite and shiat and the NCAA will probably relax sanctions once everyone is distracted by the impending collapse of our entire economy.

Yeah, that's right, everyone who didn't have anything to do with the actual crime: If you're not fine with taking the NCAA cornholing, you're just as bad as JoePa!

The crimes were committed in order to protect Penn State. If you don't put the hammer down on Penn State, others will be willing to do the same in the future at other schools -- to them it may be worth it to "fall on the sword" and cover up horrible misdeeds knowing that doing so will protect the school. The only way to keep people from doing that is to make it the "fall on the sword" hurt the school vastly more than it would protect it.


To me, the sanctions are the point. It's the reaction to the reaction to it that I'm fighting. Basically, the argument is "Your school got busted for child rape, so you have no right to complain or protest." Were it anything else, no one would make that statement; in fact, I would imagine quite a few people making that argument would be on the other side. I will again point to the Florida A&M hazing death scandal for counterbalance. Although sanctions have yet to be handed down in that case, many people who have decried Penn State people for merely defending Paterno are actually defending the hazing that lead to Champion's death. Not even the most fervent Paterno supporter is defending child rape directly. (Indirectly is, of course, another story).
 
2012-08-10 11:17:01 AM

ignatius_crumbcake: IlGreven: Yeah, that's right, everyone who didn't have anything to do with the actual crime: If you're not fine with taking the NCAA cornholing, you're just as bad as JoePa!

Cornholing? They got off easy. Penn St should have received the death penalty,

The fact that the apologists don't understand just how bad the whole thing was is baffling. Look, a former coach raped children in your football building. The leadership of both the football team and the university knew about it and did nothing, not because they all love child rape, but because doing something would harm the football team. Reporting the crime in 1998 or 2002 would have led to a scandal that would have caused long-standing damage to the football team and therefore the university. So, they kept quiet about it and hoped it would go away, because protecting the football team was the most important thing. Their failure to fix the problem in 1998 or 2002 lead to even more children being raped.

If you disagree with that paragraph, answer me this: if a former water polo coach had raped children in the water polo showers, and the water polo leadership had covered it up for years (while more children were being raped), would Penn State still have a water polo team right now?


This is pretty much it. Penn State showed that they were more concerned with protecting their reputation and their football program than STOPPING CHILD RAPE. NCAA delivering these sanctions sends the message to any future football program in this situation that the better thing to do, both morally and for the good of your program, is to STOP THE CHILD RAPE.
 
2012-08-10 11:19:40 AM

IlGreven: Not even the most fervent Paterno supporter is defending child rape directly.


But they are complaining about a very weak punishment. It's like the murderer who pleads guilty to involuntary manslaughter and then complains about his 4 year prison sentence. When the crime deserves the death penalty, don't biatch when you get off easy. Just take your medicine and show some contrition.

I also think they should realize that there's more important things in life than a college football team, but that seems unrealistic.
 
2012-08-10 11:21:02 AM
www.nndb.com

"I'll take two!"
 
2012-08-10 11:21:26 AM

IntertubeUser: VvonderJesus: The NCAA should ban them from using the name "Penn State" and all programs must refer to themselves as "Pennsylvania State University." That'll really make them go apeshiat.

So when a business commits a crime, there shouldn't be a punishment because the employees and customers would be negatively impacted?

The NCAA didn't go far enough. The cult-like culture at State College needs to change and that necessitated a couple of years completely without a football program.


The NCAA said that they were putting a four-year death penalty on the table and that the only reasons Penn State survived are because Rodney Erickson signed an agreement to not appeal the punishment, to let the NCAA use the Freeh Report as their investigation, and to not leak any information about the agreement or potential punishments to the press.
 
2012-08-10 11:22:40 AM

IlGreven: meanmutton: IlGreven: Weaver95: Penn State cultists could at least pretend to understand and accept why the football program was punished....is that so difficult? just STFU, act all contrite and shiat and the NCAA will probably relax sanctions once everyone is distracted by the impending collapse of our entire economy.

Yeah, that's right, everyone who didn't have anything to do with the actual crime: If you're not fine with taking the NCAA cornholing, you're just as bad as JoePa!

The crimes were committed in order to protect Penn State. If you don't put the hammer down on Penn State, others will be willing to do the same in the future at other schools -- to them it may be worth it to "fall on the sword" and cover up horrible misdeeds knowing that doing so will protect the school. The only way to keep people from doing that is to make it the "fall on the sword" hurt the school vastly more than it would protect it.

To me, the sanctions are the point. It's the reaction to the reaction to it that I'm fighting. Basically, the argument is "Your school got busted for child rape, so you have no right to complain or protest." Were it anything else, no one would make that statement; in fact, I would imagine quite a few people making that argument would be on the other side. I will again point to the Florida A&M hazing death scandal for counterbalance. Although sanctions have yet to be handed down in that case, many people who have decried Penn State people for merely defending Paterno are actually defending the hazing that lead to Champion's death. Not even the most fervent Paterno supporter is defending child rape directly. (Indirectly is, of course, another story).


Following the FAMU example, Penn State should have done the right thing by voluntarily shutting down the football program for a while.

Was that the point you wanted to make?

Or did you want to somehow claim that the FAMU band should affect the FAMU football program?
 
2012-08-10 11:26:13 AM
The NCAA should be mocked, though as cowards rather than oversteppers.
 
2012-08-10 11:30:55 AM

bronyaur1: This culture of nearly unimaginable stupidity is exactly why the NCAA is going medieval on them.

Seriously, how demented are these people to not comprehend that THEY are directly responsible for the environment in which Sandusky could flourish??


They need someone in the PSU community, well-repected and influential, to tell them to STFU and accept the consequences.

The South had him, the Japanese had him. The only person who could have done this in the PSU environment a) feigned ignorance and b) died.

Congrats, NCAA. You did the right thing, but you left six hundred million screamin' alumni and students.
 
2012-08-10 11:31:21 AM

Fark It: I can't wait until their football team and fans have to go on the road in the Big 10....


Wisconsin will be epic.
 
2012-08-10 11:31:51 AM
If Pennsylvania enacted a butthurt tax, we could transfer Social Security to guaranteed pensions for every man, woman and child in America. And most of the illegal immigrants, too.
 
2012-08-10 11:32:16 AM
I can't wait until their football team and fans have to go on the road in the Big 10....

The Big 10 schools now sell the majority of tickets to big spenders, rather than students. And they'll tightly control what the few student sections do.

If you want to see some rank commentary, send Penn State to play Duke. Their student body is known for being rude, crude and obnoxious.
 
2012-08-10 11:37:59 AM

bronyaur1: This culture of nearly unimaginable stupidity is exactly why the NCAA is going medieval on them.


No, it's why the NCAA should go medieval on them. What they did instead was a slap on the wrist.

Seriously, how demented are these people to not comprehend that THEY are directly responsible for the environment in which Sandusky could flourish??

They know, I think. There's no way they couldn't. But you're dealing with addicts: the drug is everything, overriding every other concern. In other words, they don't care because football. That's why the drug needs to be taken away. The problem isn't just the money that gave the program its influence; it's the people who have been warped by that program. A good four-year absence (I'd have preferred six, but four would do) should allow all but the most twisted to recover, and the ones who don't are the ones who need professional help.
 
2012-08-10 11:44:32 AM
i1247.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-10 11:45:56 AM

Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: Still in shock, or waiting for a deposit.......


The "waiting for a deposit" part got me good.

Good show chap.
 
2012-08-10 11:57:52 AM

ignatius_crumbcake: IlGreven: Yeah, that's right, everyone who didn't have anything to do with the actual crime: If you're not fine with taking the NCAA cornholing, you're just as bad as JoePa!

Cornholing? They got off easy. Penn St should have received the death penalty,

The fact that the apologists don't understand just how bad the whole thing was is baffling. Look, a former coach raped children in your football building. The leadership of both the football team and the university knew about it and did nothing, not because they all love child rape, but because doing something would harm the football team. Reporting the crime in 1998 or 2002 would have led to a scandal that would have caused long-standing damage to the football team and therefore the university. So, they kept quiet about it and hoped it would go away, because protecting the football team was the most important thing. Their failure to fix the problem in 1998 or 2002 lead to even more children being raped.

If you disagree with that paragraph, answer me this: if a former water polo coach had raped children in the water polo showers, and the water polo leadership had covered it up for years (while more children were being raped), would Penn State still have a water polo team right now?


Ok, I'll try this - why were no personal sanctions handed down to those identified as directly responsible? Why wasn't one of the line items that [insert name/s here] can no longer work for any NCAA affiliated school or business partner, or that institution is out of the NCAA?

I don't necessarily disagree with doing something sever to the sports program (in this case football), but this wasn't just a sports coverup. If you're going that route, why wouldn't you advocate the University being summarily kicked out of the NCAA altogether? Or the entire university admin staff being fired?

That said, since the kids were offered a blanket "you may go elsewhere" from the NCAA, the only thing they lose is the dream of winning big at their State school. But then they need to properly identify who is responsible - and as I mentioned, it's all in that report when they're looking to blame someone for the loss of a dream they grew up with.
 
2012-08-10 12:01:26 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: IlGreven: Yeah, that's right, everyone who didn't have anything to do with the actual crime: If you're not fine with taking the NCAA cornholing, you're just as bad as JoePa!

Cornholing? They got off easy. Penn St should have received the death penalty,

The fact that the apologists don't understand just how bad the whole thing was is baffling. Look, a former coach raped children in your football building. The leadership of both the football team and the university knew about it and did nothing, not because they all love child rape, but because doing something would harm the football team. Reporting the crime in 1998 or 2002 would have led to a scandal that would have caused long-standing damage to the football team and therefore the university. So, they kept quiet about it and hoped it would go away, because protecting the football team was the most important thing. Their failure to fix the problem in 1998 or 2002 lead to even more children being raped.

If you disagree with that paragraph, answer me this: if a former water polo coach had raped children in the water polo showers, and the water polo leadership had covered it up for years (while more children were being raped), would Penn State still have a water polo team right now?


First off, do you even know what the NCAA death penalty IS? I don't think you do. Go watch the Pony Excess and The U documentaries and don't even think of uttering "death penalty" until you are goddamn sure what it entails. Penn State's punishment was sufficient considering the extremely unconventional situation.

Second, water polo lends itself to rough sex and I urge you to look up the 1956 Olympic water polo match between Hungary and the Soviet Union and ask yourselves if you should make fun of those guys.
 
2012-08-10 12:01:56 PM
At some point in the next couple years, I'm going to drop a happy valley sized deuce on the 50 yard line and in both endzones of their dumb cult sized stadium.
 
2012-08-10 12:02:06 PM

OtherLittleGuy: bronyaur1: This culture of nearly unimaginable stupidity is exactly why the NCAA is going medieval on them.

Seriously, how demented are these people to not comprehend that THEY are directly responsible for the environment in which Sandusky could flourish??

They need someone in the PSU community, well-repected and influential, to tell them to STFU and accept the consequences.

The South had him, the Japanese had him. The only person who could have done this in the PSU environment a) feigned ignorance and b) died.

Congrats, NCAA. You did the right thing, but you left six hundred million screamin' alumni and students.


THIS
 
2012-08-10 12:07:42 PM
Penn State: Child Rape Is Less Important Than Football

Nice slogan
 
2012-08-10 12:09:26 PM

Carousel Beast: Ok, I'll try this - why were no personal sanctions handed down to those identified as directly responsible? Why wasn't one of the line items that [insert name/s here] can no longer work for any NCAA affiliated school or business partner, or that institution is out of the NCAA?


Is that even possible? Jerry Tarkanian isn't banned, as far as I know. The NCAA can hammer the schools, but it's not a criminal process & I don't know that they can ban individuals.

Second, the vacating of wins affected Paterno and his legacy*, but it wasn't a direct action against Paederno. The loss of the record* was just a(n intentional) side effect of the penalty. The record* only matters to the rabid fans. For the rest of us, who don't give a shiat about Bobby Bowden or JoePa or Eddie Robinson or whoever has the record*, it doesn't really matter.

Third, Jerry was already on an island after leaving Penn State. It's really curious that NOBODY wanted to take a look at him as a potential head coach after he left since he was supposedly the heir to the Penn State rape program prior to his "retirement". You don't need the NCAA to banhammer Jerry because Jerry already seemed to be hit by it... and the same will probably be said about the rest of the rape enablers coming out of this horrible mess.
 
2012-08-10 12:14:17 PM
For f*ck's sake. I wonder what the questions are like when political candidates (local, state, or national) visit PSU.

"How would proposing a tax increase on 'junk food' affect the football program?"

"Would tolling hikes on the turnpike potentially decrease football attendance?"

"Would football recruiting be affected if we get involved in a direct military conflict with Iran?"
 
2012-08-10 12:15:59 PM
Yeah, well they may have enabled child rape for decades, but they enabled child rape The Penn State Way, and that's what counts.

WE ARE PENN STATE NATION!!! WE ARE PENN STATE NATION!!!

/I love these people
 
2012-08-10 12:16:48 PM

Carousel Beast: Ok, I'll try this - why were no personal sanctions handed down to those identified as directly responsible? Why wasn't one of the line items that [insert name/s here] can no longer work for any NCAA affiliated school or business partner, or that institution is out of the NCAA?


The NCAA reserved the right to do that later, once those specific individuals (Curley, Schultz, Spanier) go through whatever criminal trials they may face.
 
2012-08-10 12:18:25 PM

IlGreven: meanmutton: IlGreven: Weaver95: Penn State cultists could at least pretend to understand and accept why the football program was punished....is that so difficult? just STFU, act all contrite and shiat and the NCAA will probably relax sanctions once everyone is distracted by the impending collapse of our entire economy.

Yeah, that's right, everyone who didn't have anything to do with the actual crime: If you're not fine with taking the NCAA cornholing, you're just as bad as JoePa!

The crimes were committed in order to protect Penn State. If you don't put the hammer down on Penn State, others will be willing to do the same in the future at other schools -- to them it may be worth it to "fall on the sword" and cover up horrible misdeeds knowing that doing so will protect the school. The only way to keep people from doing that is to make it the "fall on the sword" hurt the school vastly more than it would protect it.

To me, the sanctions are the point. It's the reaction to the reaction to it that I'm fighting. Basically, the argument is "Your school got busted for child rape, so you have no right to complain or protest." Were it anything else, no one would make that statement; in fact, I would imagine quite a few people making that argument would be on the other side. I will again point to the Florida A&M hazing death scandal for counterbalance. Although sanctions have yet to be handed down in that case, many people who have decried Penn State people for merely defending Paterno are actually defending the hazing that lead to Champion's death. Not even the most fervent Paterno supporter is defending child rape directly. (Indirectly is, of course, another story).


It's just that the protest is ridiculous. The sanctions are a punishment handed to Penn State University for the actions of it's employees/leadership. They were completely warranted. So a business that belongs to a member organization recieved punishment for it's actions by the organization.

Now you have all these Penn State customers acting like they were in some way punished by the NCAA. No. You're not. You can still root and cheer for PSU as much as you want. You have that choice. The actual victims of the Sicko and his friends, had no choice.

All the PSU whiners are the ones actually creating more victims. Penn State students who get it and want to move on without deniers making the degree look bad.
 
2012-08-10 12:24:12 PM

rjakobi: First off, do you even know what the NCAA death penalty IS?


From my understanding, it is a ban on competing in NCAA sanctioned events for a period of time. That's all I need to know. Ban Penn State from playing NCAA football for 4 years.


rjakobi: Second, water polo lends itself to rough sex and I urge you to look up the 1956 Olympic water polo match between Hungary and the Soviet Union and ask yourselves if you should make fun of those guys.


I wasn't making fun of it at all. Replace water polo with volleyball. Or tennis. Or lacrosse. My point was that any other sport except maybe basketball would have been shut down entirely (either by the NCAA or the university themselves) if this had happened. But, because it's football, it lived. Does anyone think that Duke would have a lacrosse program right now if the rape allegations had been true?


Carousel Beast: If you're going that route, why wouldn't you advocate the University being summarily kicked out of the NCAA altogether? Or the entire university admin staff being fired?


Who says I'm not?
 
2012-08-10 12:31:52 PM
The fans and students just don't get it. Their continued whining is doing more harm than good.
 
2012-08-10 12:40:14 PM

ignatius_crumbcake: But, because it's football, it lived. Does anyone think that Duke would have a lacrosse program right now if the rape allegations had been true?


a) it probably would
b) in one case, the team was committing the violent sexual act, in the other case, it was someone who was not on the team.

slayer199: The fans and students just don't get it. Their continued whining is doing more harm than good.


That is not fan whining. As has been mentioned earlier, it's some lame company that goes and sells these in the school colors of every team that gets sanctioned. As has been said, the shirt doesn't even make any damn sense.
 
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