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(CNN)   World's scariest hotel swimming pool is cantilevered over the edge of the 24 story building and has a clear glass bottom   (cnn.com) divider line 146
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2012-08-10 11:12:18 AM

socodog: Made in China to Chinese building codes? No, I'll pass on that bizarre form of accidental death, thank you.

 
2012-08-10 11:12:33 AM
What's interesting, in the basic static analysis of a problem like that, the weight of the water from the inside part of the pool is a big benefit to countering the cantilever end moment. In a practical sense though, it probably took some unusual gymnastics in the detailing, but nothing too wild.
 
2012-08-10 11:12:41 AM
Hey that was a pretty good photo of it if nothing else.
 
2012-08-10 11:15:42 AM
www.toxel.com
 
2012-08-10 11:16:22 AM
So very yes. Also, I'd totally get a room within a reasonable angle underneath to watch for...um...certain bathers of a hot female variety?
 
2012-08-10 11:16:30 AM

Mr Guy: Killahertz: Headso: Now that brings up a question... If you fell 24 stories inside a pillar of water also falling 24 stories would the water break your fall at all?

Yes, it would. In a very similar manner to which the concrete street would break your fall.

In an identical manner, in that water doesn't compress for crap, and would almost instantly transfer the full force of the bottom of the water hitting the pavement to your body before you even hit the ground. If the water was deep enough, you could probably make it so you died from hitting the pavement while you're still just slightly above the first floor. That's where the rope, the super glue, and the piano wire come into play.

Ta-daa.


You'd get a bit of energy dispersion as the water column expands laterally, parallel to the ground, since the water column wouldn't be bounded ... but not enough to make any real difference. Essentially, this is an identical situation to being too near an underwater explosion; shockwave impact on a submerged body. The real question would be how much the wind resistance on the trip down broke up the coherent leading surface of the water column; the more discontinuous it was when it impacted, the more energy dispersion and dissipation would occur.

I do wonder what the aftermath would look like, though. The shockwave traveling back up the water column - and through the body - would likely tear apart the internal organs (lungs are especially susceptible to this). However, in typical long-fall impacts the skin tends to rupture as the buildup of internal forces basically cause the body to explode on impact. With all the hydrostatic pressure of the surrounding the body due to the water column, though, perhaps the pressure differential would be low enough to prevent this?

/The piano wire and superglue is a fascinating proposition
//Did you remember to account for the floaty pool-toy coefficient?
 
2012-08-10 11:16:34 AM

THX 1138: Wow. That's a LOT of weight cantilevered out there. I'm sure the architects knew what they were doing but damn, i'd be too paranoid to swim in it.


That's an engineering problem. Talk to the structural guys about that. Architects design it, engineers figure out how to make it not fall down.
 
2012-08-10 11:16:43 AM

Headso: Now that brings up a question... If you fell 24 stories inside a pillar of water also falling 24 stories would the water break your fall at all?


Only if you were holding onto the top of it.
 
2012-08-10 11:17:44 AM
Also found this strange concept. A private pool for everyone on the balcony.

www.brianmicklethwait.com
 
2012-08-10 11:19:04 AM

Headso: Now that brings up a question... If you fell 24 stories inside a pillar of water also falling 24 stories would the water break your fall at all?


You need to submit this to XKCD's "What If" column.
 
2012-08-10 11:19:12 AM

Silly Jesus: socodog: Made in China to Chinese building codes? No, I'll pass on that bizarre form of accidental death, thank you.

Tax Boy: Cantilevered pool with a glass bottom = super cool

Built by slapdash, ultra-cheapass Chinese construction = SUPER SCARY

[media.tumblr.com image 160x120]


How is it racist to comment that the safety standards of another nation are not equal to the safety standards of the U.S.? Nationalist, maybe, but it is objective.
 
2012-08-10 11:19:59 AM

Silly Jesus: Also found this strange concept. A private pool for everyone on the balcony.

[www.brianmicklethwait.com image 500x413]


That's pretty awesome. Except that you'd have to change the water daily. Because everyone would be having sex in their own private balcony pool.
 
2012-08-10 11:20:54 AM

meanmutton: Headso: Now that brings up a question... If you fell 24 stories inside a pillar of water also falling 24 stories would the water break your fall at all?

No.

You're still going to accelerate to terminal velocity. I don't know what water's terminal velocity is but it's certainly not the same as yours so you'll either hit before the water does or after it'shiat and started to disperse. Either way, you're still going insanely fast and will have a very unpleasant and abrupt stop.


Probably a death sentence...but, IF the 'column' of water was a) deep enough, and b) you didn't fall right out the bottom as it dispersed into droplets with a lower terminal velocity than your body, AND c) the water landed first, partly contained, so as to form an aerated cushion rather than a liquid mass, you might have a chance.
That's not even considering the glass.

You first :)
 
2012-08-10 11:21:14 AM

Sybarite: ham


Found a photo of you here...

NSFW photo of Pool

/*linkyed* just in case mods have *no* sense of humor
 
2012-08-10 11:22:14 AM
images3.wikia.nocookie.net

/approves
 
2012-08-10 11:22:25 AM

tonguedepressor: Headso: Now that brings up a question... If you fell 24 stories inside a pillar of water also falling 24 stories would the water break your fall at all?

Only if you were holding onto the top of it.


It would actually make matters worse, since the mass of the water (at 8 lbs/gal) would be added to yours, increasing the force with which you strike the ground. You' be pretty much a mess, but a clean one.

Remember boys and girls: physics is your friend.
 
2012-08-10 11:23:51 AM

Killahertz: shockwave impact on a submerged body.


I think this is the exact right analogy, given the distances and materials involved. I think you'd get a lot compression cuts all over the skin, rupture lungs, eyes, and ears, and just generally be a pink oozey blob of former human by a foot or too above the ground. You'd definitely have SOME of the force escape horizontally, but you're going to splat.
 
2012-08-10 11:24:47 AM

Headso: Now that pool has to be part of an action movie and the glass gets shot out and people get sucked out of the building.


Get out of my head!
 
2012-08-10 11:24:58 AM

Girion47: How is it racist to comment that the safety standards of another nation are not equal to the safety standards of the U.S.? Nationalist, maybe, but it is objective.


http://www.engineering.com/Library/ArticlesPage/tabid/85/ArticleID/4 10 /Ever-see-a-12-story-building-just-fall-over.aspx

www.engineering.com
 
2012-08-10 11:28:55 AM

irreverence: This, for me, is up there (pun not really intended) with the rides that dangle off the side of the Stratosphere Casino in Vegas and other similar stuff. Death by acrophobia, no thank you.


This. I did those rides, and they were the scariest rides I've ever done. I sat in the front of the teeter-totter and almost peed myself when we went over the edge.

I would NOT be swimming here. I'm ok with heights, but the idea of this pool made me break out into a cold sweat.
 
2012-08-10 11:30:25 AM

stucka: Girion47: How is it racist to comment that the safety standards of another nation are not equal to the safety standards of the U.S.? Nationalist, maybe, but it is objective.

http://www.engineering.com/Library/ArticlesPage/tabid/85/ArticleID/4 10 /Ever-see-a-12-story-building-just-fall-over.aspx

[www.engineering.com image 480x324]


Remind me never to enter a tall building in China.
 
2012-08-10 11:31:05 AM

Headso: Now that brings up a question... If you fell 24 stories inside a pillar of water also falling 24 stories would the water break your fall at all?


Only if Bugs Bunny gets the bucket underneath you in time. And then isn't a dick and doesn't move it away at the last minute.
 
2012-08-10 11:32:48 AM

ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 550x412]


Dude, is it just me or does the person in that photo have a gigantic pubic hair mound?
 
2012-08-10 11:33:00 AM
Found a picture of a Farker in the pool.

media-cdn.tripadvisor.com
 
2012-08-10 11:33:12 AM
CANONBARRRRRRRRRRR! *drenches crowd below*
 
2012-08-10 11:35:19 AM

Silly Jesus: Found a picture of a Farker in the pool.

[media-cdn.tripadvisor.com image 550x412]


A swim cap? Really? Prepare for copious amounts of ridicule.
 
2012-08-10 11:36:14 AM
How did they toughen the glass?

Did they take it out to the alley and beat it up some?
Did they make it smoke a whole carton of cigarettes?
 
2012-08-10 11:38:15 AM
media-cdn.tripadvisor.com

Wow, a pretty underwhelming view
 
2012-08-10 11:38:19 AM

Crewmannumber6: Silly Jesus: Found a picture of a Farker in the pool.

[media-cdn.tripadvisor.com image 550x412]

A swim cap? Really? Prepare for copious amounts of ridicule.


www.sojones.com

If Snoop Lion can pull it off, anyone can.
/Snoop Lion
//Snoop Lion
 
2012-08-10 11:41:24 AM

Theaetetus: Headso: Now that brings up a question... If you fell 24 stories inside a pillar of water also falling 24 stories would the water break your fall at all?

Yes, but only if you swim up.


I had the same answer, dammitsomuch. Still, the water won't stay in a column as it falls. Basically, the water, the glass, you, and your fellow swimmers will "rain" down upon the passers-by. Or onto the roof of the building below.
 
2012-08-10 11:42:48 AM

Buttknuckle: ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 550x412]

Dude, is it just me or does the person in that photo have a gigantic pubic hair mound?


I had to look closely.....it's the edge/top of his/her head
 
2012-08-10 11:44:21 AM

Silly Jesus: Also found this strange concept. A private pool for everyone on the balcony.


I've seen the balcony pics before, but not the pool in the middle. Impressive high-dive opportunity there!
 
2012-08-10 11:45:29 AM
I'd drop a deuce in that pool. Maybe even on purpose.
 
2012-08-10 11:46:26 AM

BeezyBates: If Snoop Lion can pull it off, anyone can.


If i didn't know better I'd say he was high on marijuana when that picture was taken
 
2012-08-10 11:49:17 AM

JackieRabbit: tonguedepressor: Headso: Now that brings up a question... If you fell 24 stories inside a pillar of water also falling 24 stories would the water break your fall at all?

Only if you were holding onto the top of it.

It would actually make matters worse, since the mass of the water (at 8 lbs/gal) would be added to yours, increasing the force with which you strike the ground. You' be pretty much a mess, but a clean one.

Remember boys and girls: physics is your friend.


I thought the holding onto the top of it would trigger it but apparently not. Thanks.
 
2012-08-10 11:51:51 AM
All my life I have had one simple wish: to own a Zepplin with a diving board and a glass-bottomed pool.

and really, is that so much to ask?
 
2012-08-10 11:53:24 AM
Yeah... fark that. If for no other reason, than because a hole in that glass would suck everyone in the whole damn pool out like a drain, even if you were not the drunk idiot hitting it with a hammer to prove it wont break, or whatever.
 
2012-08-10 11:54:05 AM

BeezyBates: Crewmannumber6: Silly Jesus: Found a picture of a Farker in the pool.

[media-cdn.tripadvisor.com image 550x412]

A swim cap? Really? Prepare for copious amounts of ridicule.

[www.sojones.com image 400x533]

If Snoop Lion can pull it off, anyone can.
/Snoop Lion
//Snoop Lion


That is a shower cap. Not a swim cap. Prepare for copious amounts of ridicule.
 
2012-08-10 11:55:15 AM

trappedspirit: [media-cdn.tripadvisor.com image 550x412]

Wow, a pretty underwhelming view


Seriously, wow, a view of a roof below you, not even a nice garden or anything.

You know what would be far more entertaining? Regular pool with a glass bottom over a giant LCD screen. The screen shows arial video so it seems that you are actually flying over something interesting, not just the hotel worker's smoke break stop.
 
2012-08-10 11:58:18 AM

JackieRabbit: since the mass of the water (at 8 lbs/gal) would be added to yours, increasing the force


Morbo says, "GRAVITY DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY".

That's true if you're concerned with the force the entire mass impacts the ground with. We're interested in the force that's being put into the body inside the mass. The only thing we need an expert on is to tell us how much the water column would spread over 240ish feet, when being preceded by a layer of tempered glass to cut down drag, and how much of the force vector is redirected outwards instead of upwards. It definitely won't matters WORSE, although depending on the coherency of the column, it could make your sudden stop quite a few feet higher than you may originally anticipate.
 
2012-08-10 12:03:49 PM
This will last right up until an 11 year old boy manages to make it to the 23rd floor with a BB rifle.
 
2012-08-10 12:04:15 PM

trappedspirit: BeezyBates: Crewmannumber6: Silly Jesus: Found a picture of a Farker in the pool.

[media-cdn.tripadvisor.com image 550x412]

A swim cap? Really? Prepare for copious amounts of ridicule.

[www.sojones.com image 400x533]

If Snoop Lion can pull it off, anyone can.
/Snoop Lion
//Snoop Lion

That is a shower cap. Not a swim cap. Prepare for copious amounts of ridicule.


kristinhoppe.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-10 12:05:08 PM

Krikkitbot: How did they toughen the glass?

Did they take it out to the alley and beat it up some?
Did they make it smoke a whole carton of cigarettes?




It's "toughened grass" ... asian, remember?
 
2012-08-10 12:05:27 PM
It's spelled "badass" subby, it's the worlds most badass swimming pool
 
2012-08-10 12:08:36 PM

Headso: Now that brings up a question... If you fell 24 stories inside a pillar of water also falling 24 stories would the water break your fall at all?


At all? Yes. Enough to matter in the long run, not even close. Also, I'm no physics major, but I'm pretty sure you and the water are going to fall at rather different rates. Or more specifically, the water is going to spread out in transit, a lot.
 
2012-08-10 12:14:02 PM

Spindle: trappedspirit: [media-cdn.tripadvisor.com image 550x412]

Wow, a pretty underwhelming view

Seriously, wow, a view of a roof below you, not even a nice garden or anything.

You know what would be far more entertaining? Regular pool with a glass bottom over a giant LCD screen. The screen shows arial video so it seems that you are actually flying over something interesting, not just the hotel worker's smoke break stop.


I read that as *anal* video. And yes, that would be far more entertaining.
 
2012-08-10 12:15:02 PM

lunchinlewis: What's interesting, in the basic static analysis of a problem like that, the weight of the water from the inside part of the pool is a big benefit to countering the cantilever end moment. In a practical sense though, it probably took some unusual gymnastics in the detailing, but nothing too wild.


Pretty sure you would want the engineers to calculate everything with NO water in the pool - it ain't full during construction.
 
2012-08-10 12:27:56 PM
Well I'm sure if Steve McQueen were alive he'd have a few things to say about that.
 
2012-08-10 12:28:58 PM
Want to skinny-dip in the hotel pool?
 
2012-08-10 12:30:26 PM

maureen_g: lunchinlewis: What's interesting, in the basic static analysis of a problem like that, the weight of the water from the inside part of the pool is a big benefit to countering the cantilever end moment. In a practical sense though, it probably took some unusual gymnastics in the detailing, but nothing too wild.

Pretty sure you would want the engineers to calculate everything with NO water in the pool - it ain't full during construction.


But without water, the load on the cantilevered end is just dead load. As you fill it, the load on both ends changes. It's a weird problem and probably involves complicated integrals and crap like that. It's why I stuck with architecture and hire people to do the tough stuff.
 
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