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2012-08-10 02:10:39 PM
Major Developer Sales are down, but other areas are prospering.

Look at the Ouya , for what it's worth that crazy little lab experiment of a console might do some good.

Steam Sales happened, PSN sales are just going on, the Humble Bundle was a pay whatever you want deal and made a shiat load of cash. A lot of people are picking up swaths of old and indie games as opposed to dropping the big bucks on a $60 title. This is a good thing.

Oh and color me shocked that console sales have gone down 8 months since the American Holiday Season(tm).
 
2012-08-10 02:28:15 PM
Kids dont' have jobs to waste their money on games. Parents are out of work. I guess silly luxuries like games come second to eating
 
2012-08-10 02:28:27 PM

Expolaris: Major Developer Sales are down, but other areas are prospering.

Look at the Ouya , for what it's worth that crazy little lab experiment of a console might do some good.

Steam Sales happened, PSN sales are just going on, the Humble Bundle was a pay whatever you want deal and made a shiat load of cash. A lot of people are picking up swaths of old and indie games as opposed to dropping the big bucks on a $60 title. This is a good thing.

Oh and color me shocked that console sales have gone down 8 months since the American Holiday Season(tm).


Well, this thread is mostly finished. All I would add is that all the interesting action in video games is occurring out in the long tail, and that's a good thing because the AAA's are completely stagnant.
 
2012-08-10 02:38:04 PM
Hm lets see, Madden 2012, CoD:Whatever, man I feel like I've already played all these new games, I'm not paying for this.
 
2012-08-10 02:51:33 PM
To be fair, there hasn't been many games released in the past 8 months worth a damn.
 
2012-08-10 02:51:39 PM
a lack of innovation in the industry.
 
2012-08-10 03:01:57 PM
Jokes on them, I figure I won't even buy a console in the next generation.
 
2012-08-10 03:06:53 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Kids dont' have jobs to waste their money on games. Parents are out of work. I guess silly luxuries like games come second to eating


Which is why I can't find a good job in the industry. Had a chance to be a shader coder, but I make more money and get better benefits doing newspaper layouts. That doesn't seem like it makes any farking sense, but I guess it's the old folks who still want their daily prints who are the only ones left with any money.
 
2012-08-10 03:16:28 PM

Creoena: To be fair, there hasn't been many games released in the past 8 months worth a damn.


This is the slow season right now anyway, any smart publisher is now holding off until closer to the holiday season, so right now it's mostly crapware and movie tie-in stuff.

Of course, there are some exceptions.
 
2012-08-10 03:25:29 PM

Sergeant Grumbles: Smeggy Smurf: Kids dont' have jobs to waste their money on games. Parents are out of work. I guess silly luxuries like games come second to eating

Which is why I can't find a good job in the industry. Had a chance to be a shader coder, but I make more money and get better benefits doing newspaper layouts. That doesn't seem like it makes any farking sense, but I guess it's the old folks who still want their daily prints who are the only ones left with any money.


Game developers have a constant stream of kids who want to work in the gaming industry who will work for 8$ an hour 100 hours a week while getting paid for working 40. and doing that for 8 months at a time.

There isn't a rock star glam to being an orcale dba or C# who makes applications for Accounts receivable for Latin America recipts. Only lots of steady money and time to have a life and family.
 
2012-08-10 03:40:51 PM

RedPhoenix122: Creoena: To be fair, there hasn't been many games released in the past 8 months worth a damn.

This is the slow season right now anyway, any smart publisher is now holding off until closer to the holiday season, so right now it's mostly crapware and movie tie-in stuff.

Of course, there are some exceptions.


It is the slow season but didn't Diablo 3 sell a billion copies a few months ago?
 
2012-08-10 03:47:26 PM
The 3DS is the only system to have year-over-year increases in sales.

This whole generation has worn on way too long, because Sony and Microsoft weren't eager to lose a lot of money launching new hardware. Hence the talk about "10 year plans" and Kinect. Now sales are taking a beating.
 
2012-08-10 03:50:38 PM

pat34us:
It is the slow season but didn't Diablo 3 sell a billion copies a few months ago?


Sales were around 10 million units in July. Fastest selling game to date. It's only for PC and Mac so I'm not sure it was counted in this article. Seems like the focus of TFA is console games and hardware.
 
2012-08-10 04:08:02 PM

Faps_in_the_kitchen: pat34us:
It is the slow season but didn't Diablo 3 sell a billion copies a few months ago?

Sales were around 10 million units in July. Fastest selling game to date. It's only for PC and Mac so I'm not sure it was counted in this article. Seems like the focus of TFA is console games and hardware.


Fair enough, it has games in the title so it is blocked at work, so I wrongly assumed that all games were included.
 
2012-08-10 04:31:11 PM

Sergeant Grumbles: Smeggy Smurf: Kids dont' have jobs to waste their money on games. Parents are out of work. I guess silly luxuries like games come second to eating

Which is why I can't find a good job in the industry. Had a chance to be a shader coder, but I make more money and get better benefits doing newspaper layouts. That doesn't seem like it makes any farking sense, but I guess it's the old folks who still want their daily prints who are the only ones left with any money.


What are they using to build the environments? Modeling the buildings and landscape for games is something I might do if I ever leave my current career
 
2012-08-10 05:07:00 PM
I just bought Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Love it.
 
2012-08-10 05:10:58 PM
I'd say a large part of the problem is that there simply haven't been many games coming out, much less ones worth paying release prices for. Right now we're in the typical dead period, but there's normally something of an uptick from March until early-mid summer, and that just didn't happen this year. Maybe it's the "finally prepping for new consoles" thing, but I haven't heard much about those yet either.
 
2012-08-10 05:15:30 PM
I blame Skyrim.

The article says game sales have been declining for 8 months straight. Skyrim came out 9 months ago. For older gamers who only have a couple hours a week to play massive games that have 100+ hours of content, we're still happily plugging away at the same game we got for Christmas last year.

Based on my extensive research (looking at the front page of GameFAQs), Skyrim holds the #1, 2, and 4 spots on the top 10 games list, so this is clearly a common situation.
 
2012-08-10 05:24:00 PM
Didn't we get a headline like this last year? Dude, the better games come out in fall. Of course there's a dip in summer.

This must be the same guy who writes about the dangers of improperly cooked stuffing and flash frying your turkey during Thanksgiving.
 
2012-08-10 05:24:50 PM
Who needs new games? I still play Harvest Moon, Paper Mario for GameCube.
 
2012-08-10 05:32:22 PM

Smeggy Smurf: What are they using to build the environments? Modeling the buildings and landscape for games is something I might do if I ever leave my current career


Funny you should say that. That's exactly what I wanted to do.
It all depends on who you work for or what you're doing exactly.
Most 3D programs are interchangeable as far as knowing how to build specific items, so it's more important that you have high level work to show off rather than experience in any specific program.
The big names are always Autodesk's 3DSMax and Maya, Zbrush, and to a lesser extent Blender or Modo, and for very specific games like the Source engine, you'll be using the engine's own program, like Valve's Hammer.
If you're interested in cheap stuff to toy around with, Hammer is free with any Source game, and had the added benefit of being able to instantly compile and run your level.
There's also the Unity game engine, which is cheap to pick up a license, and can directly read files out of Maya and 3DS Max without complicated conversions. Downside there is you need 3DS Max or Maya, and those (legally) don't come cheap.
And most AAA titles out there offer their own modding tools, such as Skyrim, which come with utilities to convert your own 3D models to game-relevant formats.
Like I said, having high-level work to show off is can be more important than experience, so if you are interested in going that route, just fool around with a little bit of purpose and add it to your portfolio. The job interview I had for writing shaders came from a lighting shader I made for Skyrim.
But, like I said, and like SuperT said, the economy kind of sucks and everyone wants to make games, so wages aren't exactly good and competition is fierce. There are plenty of small shops and indie-game teams that have openings or are at least eager to chat with prospective talent. My job search before landing my current gig taught me that for the small shops, about 9 out of 10 times you contact them, they'll give you a reply even if they don't have any openings. Hell, I got an email from an Australian company saying that they regretted they weren't open to international candidates and another from Northern Ireland that said they'd be glad to take me on if I could move there (shame I couldn't.), both I'd emailed on a whim just to see if they had openings.
 
2012-08-10 05:44:00 PM

Heist: I blame Skyrim.

The article says game sales have been declining for 8 months straight. Skyrim came out 9 months ago. For older gamers who only have a couple hours a week to play massive games that have 100+ hours of content, we're still happily plugging away at the same game we got for Christmas last year.

Based on my extensive research (looking at the front page of GameFAQs), Skyrim holds the #1, 2, and 4 spots on the top 10 games list, so this is clearly a common situation.


Maybe. I haven't been playing many games lately outside of Skyrim, and even then I'm not playing Skyrim. I'm making a mod for it. I relax occasionally with a little Minecraft and some Diablo III, but outside of those games... meh... oh, I did play Fez a few weeks ago. That's a beautiful game. I think I paid $15 for it on LIVE.

I've purchased maybe 2 $60 games in the last 2 or so years.
 
2012-08-10 05:50:05 PM
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2012-08-10 05:53:42 PM

Expolaris: Steam Sales happened, PSN sales are just going on, the Humble Bundle was a pay whatever you want deal and made a shiat load of cash. A lot of people are picking up swaths of old and indie games as opposed to dropping the big bucks on a $60 title. This is a good thing.


Pretty much THIS. I am a lifelong gamer, but the older I get the less compelled I am to play the newest game. I'm a huge Humble Bundle fan and still haven't played through all the games I bought last time around. Gog.com is also bookmarked for me, and I'm super excited about the Quest For Glory collection they just added. The only new release I'm really excited about is the Baldur's Gate remake, which is looking very promising.

I don't want to mess with the draconian DRM and all that nonsense, especially when I pay $60 for the privilege. At that price, I could have enough retro and indie games to last me for years. Plus, I don't have to constantly upgrade my system, as my little computer can run pretty much any game I want to play.

By the time I finally decide to play what's out now, those games will be considered retro and will be a lot cheaper on Gog, and whatever computer I have then will more than be able to handle them.
 
2012-08-10 06:05:31 PM

Heist: I blame Skyrim.

The article says game sales have been declining for 8 months straight. Skyrim came out 9 months ago. For older gamers who only have a couple hours a week to play massive games that have 100+ hours of content, we're still happily plugging away at the same game we got for Christmas last year.

Based on my extensive research (looking at the front page of GameFAQs), Skyrim holds the #1, 2, and 4 spots on the top 10 games list, so this is clearly a common situation.


I've been playing Skyrim pretty solidly the last two months after avoiding it like the time sucker it is. There just aren't any other good console games out right now, so I felt like I could afford to focus on Skyrim for a while. That all changes next month when Borderlands 2 comes out, though. If its even half as good as the original, I'll be playing that game several times through with multiple groups of friend.
 
2012-08-10 06:11:46 PM
ROFL..headline of the year please
 
2012-08-10 06:14:56 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Heist: I blame Skyrim.

The article says game sales have been declining for 8 months straight. Skyrim came out 9 months ago. For older gamers who only have a couple hours a week to play massive games that have 100+ hours of content, we're still happily plugging away at the same game we got for Christmas last year.

Based on my extensive research (looking at the front page of GameFAQs), Skyrim holds the #1, 2, and 4 spots on the top 10 games list, so this is clearly a common situation.

I've been playing Skyrim pretty solidly the last two months after avoiding it like the time sucker it is. There just aren't any other good console games out right now, so I felt like I could afford to focus on Skyrim for a while. That all changes next month when Borderlands 2 comes out, though. If its even half as good as the original, I'll be playing that game several times through with multiple groups of friend.


I picked up Skyrim during the summer sale on Steam. I quickly remembered why I didn't like Morrowind and never bothered with Oblivion. But Skyrim isn't AS bad as that. I haven't looked into any mods, because I would prefer to play through the game vanilla before I modded it. But seriously, was a minimap in the corner too much to ask for? That compass is shiat anyway.
 
2012-08-10 06:22:20 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Heist: I blame Skyrim.

The article says game sales have been declining for 8 months straight. Skyrim came out 9 months ago. For older gamers who only have a couple hours a week to play massive games that have 100+ hours of content, we're still happily plugging away at the same game we got for Christmas last year.

Based on my extensive research (looking at the front page of GameFAQs), Skyrim holds the #1, 2, and 4 spots on the top 10 games list, so this is clearly a common situation.

I've been playing Skyrim pretty solidly the last two months after avoiding it like the time sucker it is. There just aren't any other good console games out right now, so I felt like I could afford to focus on Skyrim for a while. That all changes next month when Borderlands 2 comes out, though. If its even half as good as the original, I'll be playing that game several times through with multiple groups of friend.


Indeed. After finishing Dark Souls, I got sucked into Skyrim, which has kept me busy for about a hundred hours now. I just added Dawnguard, I have a few more Daedras to finish, one more Dragon Priest mask to gather, and the Civil War quests, and then I think I am finished. I fully expect to hit 150 hours.

That said, I think one downfall is the shooters. They are just ... too easy, and lacking any identifiable persona. Go here, kill this, repeat.
 
2012-08-10 06:39:42 PM

Expolaris: Major Developer Sales are down, but other areas are prospering.

Look at the Ouya , for what it's worth that crazy little lab experiment of a console might do some good.

Steam Sales happened, PSN sales are just going on, the Humble Bundle was a pay whatever you want deal and made a shiat load of cash. A lot of people are picking up swaths of old and indie games as opposed to dropping the big bucks on a $60 title. This is a good thing.

Oh and color me shocked that console sales have gone down 8 months since the American Holiday Season(tm).


Wow, everything that needed to be said.

Going to $60 for what seems like every release was a gamble that while a long time coming, perhaps should not have been done until the economy recovers. SW:TOR going free to play has solidified my stance to never purchase another MMO ever, and most of my purchases are little independent outfit Steam Sales anyways.
 
2012-08-10 07:16:33 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Mike Chewbacca: Heist: I blame Skyrim.

The article says game sales have been declining for 8 months straight. Skyrim came out 9 months ago. For older gamers who only have a couple hours a week to play massive games that have 100+ hours of content, we're still happily plugging away at the same game we got for Christmas last year.

Based on my extensive research (looking at the front page of GameFAQs), Skyrim holds the #1, 2, and 4 spots on the top 10 games list, so this is clearly a common situation.

I've been playing Skyrim pretty solidly the last two months after avoiding it like the time sucker it is. There just aren't any other good console games out right now, so I felt like I could afford to focus on Skyrim for a while. That all changes next month when Borderlands 2 comes out, though. If its even half as good as the original, I'll be playing that game several times through with multiple groups of friend.

Indeed. After finishing Dark Souls, I got sucked into Skyrim, which has kept me busy for about a hundred hours now. I just added Dawnguard, I have a few more Daedras to finish, one more Dragon Priest mask to gather, and the Civil War quests, and then I think I am finished. I fully expect to hit 150 hours.

That said, I think one downfall is the shooters. They are just ... too easy, and lacking any identifiable persona. Go here, kill this, repeat.


I never like the othe ES gems other but so many of my friends were playing and nothing else was out o I just but the bullet. I'm probably about 100 hours in. Ut not nearly as far along as you. I always use stealth, which slows me down, I guess.
 
2012-08-10 07:18:26 PM

Mike Chewbacca: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Mike Chewbacca: Heist: I blame Skyrim.

The article says game sales have been declining for 8 months straight. Skyrim came out 9 months ago. For older gamers who only have a couple hours a week to play massive games that have 100+ hours of content, we're still happily plugging away at the same game we got for Christmas last year.

Based on my extensive research (looking at the front page of GameFAQs), Skyrim holds the #1, 2, and 4 spots on the top 10 games list, so this is clearly a common situation.

I've been playing Skyrim pretty solidly the last two months after avoiding it like the time sucker it is. There just aren't any other good console games out right now, so I felt like I could afford to focus on Skyrim for a while. That all changes next month when Borderlands 2 comes out, though. If its even half as good as the original, I'll be playing that game several times through with multiple groups of friend.

Indeed. After finishing Dark Souls, I got sucked into Skyrim, which has kept me busy for about a hundred hours now. I just added Dawnguard, I have a few more Daedras to finish, one more Dragon Priest mask to gather, and the Civil War quests, and then I think I am finished. I fully expect to hit 150 hours.

That said, I think one downfall is the shooters. They are just ... too easy, and lacking any identifiable persona. Go here, kill this, repeat.

I never like the othe ES gems other but so many of my friends were playing and nothing else was out o I just but the bullet. I'm probably about 100 hours in. Ut not nearly as far along as you. I always use stealth, which slows me down, I guess.


Oh, I use stealth, but like the Fallout games, I spend the first several hours just wandering around, discovering locations. Right now, I have a 100 in stealth, archery, and pickpocketing, and the full tree filled for Archery. I have to say, having that 15% chance of paralyzing shot on that thing has saved my ass a few times.
 
2012-08-10 07:46:19 PM
Hey, geniuses, do you know what happens at the end of a console generation? Sales fall. Why? Because people are tired of playing on the same hardware they bought 6 years ago. Why do you think Apple releases a new phone every year and "accidentally" leaks prototypes to build hype?

Guess what else? Video game sales are higher than they've ever been. There have never been more hardware sales, and never have there been more game sales. Guess what will happen when the next-generation of consoles are released, starting with Wii U? That's right, tons more sales, and stupid articles about how interesting and fun the next-generation of hardware is.

Do you also know what's the best way to get stupid people to give your crappy article hits? That's right: sensationalist doomsday scenarios.
 
2012-08-10 07:48:53 PM
You want to save money on games?

Don't buy them until they go on sale on Steam. I've spent nearly 500hrs between Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas and you can buy both of these great games for
 
2012-08-10 07:52:44 PM

Wittenberg Dropout: You want to save money on games?

Don't buy them until they go on sale on Steam. I've spent nearly 500hrs between Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas and you can buy both of these great games for


Goog God man, how much????? THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME.
 
2012-08-10 08:11:00 PM
The continual drop in game sales, particularly for the PC, is basically a Myth. The measures used by firms like NPD exclude digital sales, microtransactions, pay-to-win, DLC, and-- hell-- even physical sales not done through retail locations (like with Stardock, where they sometimes offer both a digital and physical copy directly from the developer). Playstation Network? XBox Live Arcade? Steam and Origin? Don't exist. You know that DLC/expansion that just came out for Skyrim, 'Dawnguard'? Well, that doesn't exist either because it wasn't in a box at your local Walmart.

The fact is that the industry just hasn't caught up to, well, itself. The article says that software sales are down to $278 million. NPD estimates that digital sales are $439 million in that same period, yet doesn't include all that money because it's 20-goddamn-12 and they're still not tracking 'non-traditional' forms of delivering content. Gee, I farking wonder where all the sales are 'disappearing' to.
 
2012-08-10 08:16:27 PM

TeDDD: The continual drop in game sales, particularly for the PC, is basically a Myth. The measures used by firms like NPD exclude digital sales, microtransactions, pay-to-win, DLC, and-- hell-- even physical sales not done through retail locations (like with Stardock, where they sometimes offer both a digital and physical copy directly from the developer). Playstation Network? XBox Live Arcade? Steam and Origin? Don't exist. You know that DLC/expansion that just came out for Skyrim, 'Dawnguard'? Well, that doesn't exist either because it wasn't in a box at your local Walmart.

The fact is that the industry just hasn't caught up to, well, itself. The article says that software sales are down to $278 million. NPD estimates that digital sales are $439 million in that same period, yet doesn't include all that money because it's 20-goddamn-12 and they're still not tracking 'non-traditional' forms of delivering content. Gee, I farking wonder where all the sales are 'disappearing' to.


That's not at all true. Video game companies ABSULUTELY count digital sales.
 
2012-08-10 08:17:07 PM
Haven't bought any games in 2012. Don't have the money, nor has there been anything worthwhile.

Borderlands 2 should shake that up, though. And I'll probably shell out for the HD Okami and Zone of the Enders re-releases.
 
2012-08-10 08:20:15 PM
Apart from Port Royale 3 haven't bought a game since 2011, odd that. Its almost like nothing but crap has been released thus far this year.
 
2012-08-10 08:31:24 PM

Mike Chewbacca: TeDDD: The continual drop in game sales, particularly for the PC, is basically a Myth. The measures used by firms like NPD exclude digital sales, microtransactions, pay-to-win, DLC, and-- hell-- even physical sales not done through retail locations (like with Stardock, where they sometimes offer both a digital and physical copy directly from the developer). Playstation Network? XBox Live Arcade? Steam and Origin? Don't exist. You know that DLC/expansion that just came out for Skyrim, 'Dawnguard'? Well, that doesn't exist either because it wasn't in a box at your local Walmart.

The fact is that the industry just hasn't caught up to, well, itself. The article says that software sales are down to $278 million. NPD estimates that digital sales are $439 million in that same period, yet doesn't include all that money because it's 20-goddamn-12 and they're still not tracking 'non-traditional' forms of delivering content. Gee, I farking wonder where all the sales are 'disappearing' to.

That's not at all true. Video game companies ABSULUTELY count digital sales.


Did I say video game companies? I said NPD. You may not have noticed that I said NPD repeatedly. They're the marketing research firm that tracks game sales and is cited in all the doom-and-gloom articles, yet doesn't seem hip to this 'internet' thing yet. You might have seen me say 'they' at points. The 'they' also referred to NPD and firms like them. Which are not video game companies in anything other than the 'tracking-of' sense.

In other words, I'm a bit nonplussed by your post.
 
2012-08-10 08:55:16 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Wittenberg Dropout: You want to save money on games?

Don't buy them until they go on sale on Steam. I've spent nearly 500hrs between Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas and you can buy both of these great games for

Goog God man, how much????? THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME.


Haha looks like he was pwned by the <
 
2012-08-10 09:11:56 PM
Last big game I bought was Diablo III. What a disappointment. Blizzard completely ruined that one.

/God I need another Fallout, Skyrim or Dark Souls. Fantastic games.
 
2012-08-10 09:26:34 PM
Grinding Hall of Monument points before Guild Wars 2 launches (I'll hit 27 before launch because I want the little golem mini-pet... just have to get the Protector of Tyria for one last title to finish that)...

Looking over my Steam library... I picked up some stuff, including some DLC (the Napoleonic thing for Mount & Blade: Warband, amongst other stuff). I still have Skyrim, which I haven't played in forever. Screwing around in Portal 2. Star Trek Online is free to play (with some paid features for dumbasses), which ate up some of my time.

Mostly just waiting for Guild Wars 2.
 
2012-08-10 09:30:24 PM
downloadable gaming actually captured more revenue than retail the first half of the year, and to be honest it's easy to see why... downloadable gaming encompasses the most growth right now - in smartphone gaming and free to play gaming as well as other areas like steam/psn/xbla/etc. where games are generally cheaper and most importantly customers seem to display a higher attach-rate with downloadable software than they did with retail boxes

retail has been dropping like a rock for various reasons - the biggest being a convergence of the above downloadable space influence over consumer habits as well as the PS3/360/Wii generation lasting beyond its usefulness

sure there are financial reasons for software makers and console makers to be conservative and wait 1,2,3 years longer (if not more) but the consumer has ALWAYS been fickle and attach rate always sinks over time as backlogs get bigger, plus the number of new adopters just isn't going to keep going at what we've seen towards the back stretch

the fact that there haven't been many big hits this year hasn't helped
 
2012-08-10 10:18:15 PM
We're long overdue for another video game crash. Thanks to companies like EA and their rehashed bullshiat.
 
2012-08-10 10:45:49 PM
Steam for PC. Oddball proprietary digital delivery for almost anything else (D3). I still buy a console for the weird specialized game which for some reason "has to be" exclusive to a console. My PS3 pretty much only runs Castlevania: Harmony of Despair. Nintendo device for Mario, Zelda, and Metroid.

/them farkers should be on steam, all of them
 
2012-08-11 12:14:52 AM

Hand Banana: We're long overdue for another video game crash. Thanks to companies like EA and their rehashed bullshiat.


This. I haven't bought a game for my Wii since Wii fit because every title seems like more of the same.
 
2012-08-11 01:49:16 AM

Banacek: Last big game I bought was Diablo III. What a disappointment. Blizzard completely ruined that one.

/God I need another Fallout, Skyrim or Dark Souls. Fantastic games.


I'm a 3rd gen gamer, and I think nothing compared to the level of variety and creativity you had going on in the humble little 8 and 16-bit systems. Sure, there were flops, but the developers back then experimented and gambled and created a sheer level of video game variety and quality that was unparallelled until the Playstation 1 and 2 helped refill game store shelves. There was just so much going on in those times.

Since then it's been casual games, shovel/vaporware and plenty of commercialized media flops and DLC/DRM as the big suits like Bobby Kotick and Kaz Hirai took the reins and used focus groups instead of gamers to make video games. They have all the markets wrapped up in neat little demographics and issue games to each of them and try to maximize their profits. It's sucked the soul out of the video game industry.

As someone who looks back on the good old days of the NES, SNES, and Genesis, including reading all the old early 90's Gamepro and Electronic Gaming Monthly magazines, it makes me sad to see what a mess the gaming industry has become. But the suits never cared about us late 20's and older types, they only care about the younger demographics, the ones that are still easy to sell to, where you can take a dump and label it Halo 4 or Call of Duty and sell millions of copies. They're building an entire industry on the whims of teenagers and socialites, god forbid they start getting bored.

TLDR; The passion to make video games is gone. Video games as I know it are dead. Long live video games.
 
2012-08-11 05:34:43 AM
See, this is the perfect time to have DLC. Not release a $60 and force people to buy content that should have been released with the game a couple of months later.

Red Dead Redemption had Undead Nightmare. Why not now release something similar for GTA 4? That would bring folks back to some older games they already own.
 
2012-08-11 07:41:06 AM
Fortune Street for Wii has been my game of choice since it came out. Gotta love some Mario/Dragonquest Monopoly.
 
2012-08-11 09:44:10 AM

soakitincider: a lack of innovation in the industry.


This, I've hardly touched a game all year. Not sure if it's because I'm getting old or if I'm just tired of this shiat.
 
2012-08-11 11:43:01 AM

TeDDD: The continual drop in game sales, particularly for the PC, is basically a Myth. The measures used by firms like NPD exclude digital sales, microtransactions, pay-to-win, DLC, and-- hell-- even physical sales not done through retail locations (like with Stardock, where they sometimes offer both a digital and physical copy directly from the developer). Playstation Network? XBox Live Arcade? Steam and Origin? Don't exist. You know that DLC/expansion that just came out for Skyrim, 'Dawnguard'? Well, that doesn't exist either because it wasn't in a box at your local Walmart.


Funny enough and which only strengthens your point, NPD numbers have only very recently even included Walmart: NPD monthly reports integrate Walmart data starting June
 
2012-08-11 12:37:17 PM
LOWER YOUR farkING PRICES

When an older "big studio" game has been sitting on the Wal-Mart shelf for 3 years and is still $60 then you have pricing problems. You as game publishers have enjoyed this problem for years but now the mobile phone industry has finally exposed you.
 
2012-08-11 02:46:46 PM

theurge14: LOWER YOUR farkING PRICES

When an older "big studio" game has been sitting on the Wal-Mart shelf for 3 years and is still $60 then you have pricing problems. You as game publishers have enjoyed this problem for years but now the mobile phone industry has finally exposed you.


Mario Kart for the Wii is STILL $50. $45 if I get it used.
 
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