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(Some World Mag)   David Barton's book "The Jefferson Lies" has been pulled by its publisher for being a pack of lies about Jefferson   (worldmag.com) divider line 201
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2012-08-09 03:35:04 PM
Fun Fact: Thomas Jefferson invented the soul food chicken and waffles breakfast.
 
2012-08-09 03:38:08 PM
Good. Unfortunately, it looks like he may be getting a bigger audience of slackjaws: http://www.salon.com/2012/08/09/tea_party_takes_over_alabama_public_tv /
 
2012-08-09 03:43:00 PM
Why not just move it to the fiction section, where it's belonged the entire time?
 
2012-08-09 03:47:56 PM
His publisher went all Proverbs 12:22 on his ass.
 
2012-08-09 03:54:11 PM

Dogberry: Good. Unfortunately, it looks like he may be getting a bigger audience of slackjaws: http://www.salon.com/2012/08/09/tea_party_takes_over_alabama_public_tv /


That is interesting, so, in our derpy parts of the country, the plan is "If we can't kill PBS, we'll just take it over and turn it into Fox News"?
 
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2012-08-09 03:55:14 PM
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2012-08-09 03:57:40 PM
[Obvious] tag last seen at its book signing.
 
2012-08-09 03:57:53 PM

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Damned funny.
 
2012-08-09 04:10:18 PM
Well, what did you expect? The guy had two different people calling themselves his son Lionel.
 
2012-08-09 04:13:17 PM

vernonFL: Fun Fact: Thomas Jefferson invented the soul food chicken and waffles breakfast.


Citation needed. No Southerner I know eats fried chicken for breakfast.
 
2012-08-09 04:27:00 PM

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Outstanding!
 
2012-08-09 04:28:29 PM
I suppose next you're going to tell me that Abraham Lincoln never killed so much as a single vampire.
 
2012-08-09 04:30:31 PM
I saw this on the shelf at a bookstore in Charlottesville, VA. I took a look, say it had a forward by Glenn Beck, and put it back down, wondering how long it would be before roaming hordes of UVA students burned piles of them.

/UVA was the university founded by Jefferson
 
2012-08-09 04:35:16 PM

vygramul: I saw this on the shelf at a bookstore in Charlottesville, VA. I took a look, say it had a forward by Glenn Beck, and put it back down, wondering how long it would be before roaming hordes of UVA students burned piles of them.

/UVA was the university founded by Jefferson


WOW. Who knew that? Thanks for heads up.
 
2012-08-09 04:39:41 PM
I served on a jury earlier this year with an older, conservative-looking fellow who was reading that. I think I made an Obama voter out of him when I informed him that the Mormons posthumously sealed Jefferson and Hemmings as husband and wife.

"THEY WHAT?!"
 
2012-08-09 04:41:42 PM

TheDumbBlonde: vernonFL: Fun Fact: Thomas Jefferson invented the soul food chicken and waffles breakfast.

Citation needed. No Southerner I know eats fried chicken for breakfast.


Wake up with a hangover, fried chicken in fridge: fried chicken for breakfast.

/ex-southerner.
 
2012-08-09 04:44:15 PM
I know you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but

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"Foreword by Glenn Beck" is where I stopped reading.
 
2012-08-09 04:46:55 PM

Ennuipoet: TheDumbBlonde: vernonFL: Fun Fact: Thomas Jefferson invented the soul food chicken and waffles breakfast.

Citation needed. No Southerner I know eats fried chicken for breakfast.

Wake up with a hangover, fried chicken in fridge: fried chicken for breakfast.

/ex-southerner.


You're better off being an ex-Southerner if you eat cold fried chicken as a hangover cure, Son.
 
2012-08-09 04:59:10 PM

TheDumbBlonde: Ennuipoet: TheDumbBlonde: vernonFL: Fun Fact: Thomas Jefferson invented the soul food chicken and waffles breakfast.

Citation needed. No Southerner I know eats fried chicken for breakfast.

Wake up with a hangover, fried chicken in fridge: fried chicken for breakfast.

/ex-southerner.

You're better off being an ex-Southerner if you eat cold fried chicken as a hangover cure, Son.


Best thing ever! Two day old popeyes.. hell yeah. Certainly part of my hangover cure.. I also do the "full irish" at times.
 
2012-08-09 05:19:13 PM
You have to admit, it was an aptly titled book, only not in the way the publisher intended.

Can the Jefferson estate sue for libel? That would be awesome.
 
2012-08-09 05:27:43 PM

vernonFL: I know you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but



"Foreword by Glenn Beck" is where I stopped reading.


You remember when Texas tried to rewrite what Jefferson did two years ago? That was David Barton's work.
 
2012-08-09 05:32:05 PM
The comments for that article are pretty derpy. One person posting about a turn of phrase meaning that scientists believed plants were sentient and/or sapient at some point in the past.

How do these people even get out of bed in the morning without accidentally killing themselves.
 
2012-08-09 05:35:03 PM

xynix: TheDumbBlonde: Ennuipoet: TheDumbBlonde: vernonFL: Fun Fact: Thomas Jefferson invented the soul food chicken and waffles breakfast.

Citation needed. No Southerner I know eats fried chicken for breakfast.

Wake up with a hangover, fried chicken in fridge: fried chicken for breakfast.

/ex-southerner.

You're better off being an ex-Southerner if you eat cold fried chicken as a hangover cure, Son.

Best thing ever! Two day old popeyes.. hell yeah. Certainly part of my hangover cure.. I also do the "full irish" at times.


The Cure: Eggs, cheese grits, sausage/fried fish/country ham, biscuits, some fruit/fresh tomatoes, gallon of black coffee, gallon of iced tea. Sleep through TNT/golf all afternoon. Toddy at 4:00 to get back in the game. That's the cure.
 
2012-08-09 05:50:59 PM

TheDumbBlonde: vygramul: I saw this on the shelf at a bookstore in Charlottesville, VA. I took a look, say it had a forward by Glenn Beck, and put it back down, wondering how long it would be before roaming hordes of UVA students burned piles of them.

/UVA was the university founded by Jefferson

WOW. Who knew that? Thanks for heads up.


Normally, I wouldn't have said anything, but a few threads ago a couple of people went apeshiat over someone using "UVA" without explaining what it was.
 
2012-08-09 06:00:10 PM
Love this in the comments section: "Ummmm... this sounds a lot like a Harry Reid accusation. Only worse. How is Barton supposed to refute the charges when no one is giving specifics?
I just find it a bit incredible that someone with access to so many of the original writings/letters of our founding fathers, who has a habit of carefully listing his source documents, would be so sloppy to publish a book with unsupported opinions."

I'm pretty sure the historians notifying the publisher gave the publisher specifics, numbnuts. Also, I love the "he has access to so many original writings!" I mean seriously, anyone who can find and read the original writings of Jefferson must be some sort of super intellect, right? And since he's Christian he would never lie or anything.
 
2012-08-09 06:01:23 PM

vygramul: TheDumbBlonde: vygramul: I saw this on the shelf at a bookstore in Charlottesville, VA. I took a look, say it had a forward by Glenn Beck, and put it back down, wondering how long it would be before roaming hordes of UVA students burned piles of them.

/UVA was the university founded by Jefferson

WOW. Who knew that? Thanks for heads up.

Normally, I wouldn't have said anything, but a few threads ago a couple of people went apeshiat over someone using "UVA" without explaining what it was.


Then they deserve your derision and scorn. Explain nothing.
 
2012-08-09 06:05:09 PM
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2012-08-09 06:11:05 PM
Fact: Thomas Jefferson invented fat canine daguerrotypes
 
2012-08-09 06:13:22 PM
so what exactly are the "lies" that are being lied about? Jefferson had sex with at least one slave woman, at least 6 times? He wasn't a born-again Christian?
 
2012-08-09 06:16:08 PM
Wow, the publisher is a Jesus website, too. Even the Christians are getting sick of this guy opening his cock-holster.

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2012-08-09 06:17:08 PM
At least the book's title is factually accurate...
 
2012-08-09 06:19:05 PM

TheDumbBlonde: The Cure: Eggs, cheese grits, sausage/fried fish/country ham, biscuits, some fruit/fresh tomatoes, gallon of black coffee, gallon of iced tea. Sleep through TNT/golf all afternoon. Toddy at 4:00 to get back in the game. That's the cure.


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The Cure community frowns upon your shenanigans.

/Hot.
 
2012-08-09 06:20:25 PM
Great, now we'll hear him start whining about free speech.

Can someone just please invent a virus that kills these ignorant/evil motherfarkers? Seriously. I'm tired of them taking up my oxygen.
 
2012-08-09 06:20:29 PM
Bet the GOP wishes they could ditch the teabaggers this easily.
 
2012-08-09 06:20:47 PM
At least it's got an accura-

Mikey1969: At least the book's title is factually accurate...


Well then.
 
2012-08-09 06:22:08 PM

Renart: TheDumbBlonde: The Cure: Eggs, cheese grits, sausage/fried fish/country ham, biscuits, some fruit/fresh tomatoes, gallon of black coffee, gallon of iced tea. Sleep through TNT/golf all afternoon. Toddy at 4:00 to get back in the game. That's the cure.

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The Cure community frowns upon your shenanigans.

/Hot.


The guy on the left looks life Shepard Smith.
 
2012-08-09 06:23:40 PM
From the other David Barton thread:

As many of you know, my mother, Judy Jennings, recently ran for Texas State Board of Education. Fark helped her out with donations and spreading the word, but unfortunately she lost her race :(

During the campaign, she and her fellow Democratic SBoE nominee from another district ran a commercial about David Barton (I can't remember the exact reasoning. Barton was an adviser for both their opponents or something). During this commercial, it was claimed that Barton spoke at a white supremacist rally. Barton is now suing my mother and her fellow candidate, claiming the commercial is slander. His defense is (quite literally) "Yes, I spoke at a white supremacist rally, but I didn't know they were white supremacists at the time."

If you'd like more information, or if you'd like to know how you can help, please look up Judy Jennings on the Facebook. She is running for State Board of Education again in 2012, and we would appreciate any support.

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2012-08-09 06:23:41 PM

Egalitarian: so what exactly are the "lies" that are being lied about? Jefferson had sex with at least one slave woman, at least 6 times? He wasn't a born-again Christian?


The other thread had quotes about things in the Constitution being verbatim from the Bible.

Oh yeah, and Huckabee saying liberals should be held at gunpoint and forced to listen to David Barton.
 
2012-08-09 06:24:56 PM

vernonFL: "Foreword by Glenn Beck" is where I stopped reading.


...there were no words left to read.
 
2012-08-09 06:28:14 PM
On the history of chicken and waffles for breakfast.

One version of it actually has TJ bringing a waffle iron back from France and starting the tradition. Of course it's Wikipedia, not the Encyclopedia Brittanica, so take it with a grain of whatever seasoning floats your boat.
 
2012-08-09 06:28:57 PM

Dogberry: Good. Unfortunately, it looks like he may be getting a bigger audience of slackjaws: http://www.salon.com/2012/08/09/tea_party_takes_over_alabama_public_tv /


The open letter sent to Governor Bentley by the newly-resigned COO of Alabama Public Television is worth the read.
 
2012-08-09 06:29:52 PM

TheDumbBlonde: The guy on the left looks life Shepard Smith.


You're right. I always suspected Shep led a double life, but I didn't realize it was as a member of The Cure.
 
2012-08-09 06:31:08 PM
If you're looking for a biatch-fest of epic proportions, head over to the Amazon.com customer review section
 
2012-08-09 06:32:46 PM

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: One version of it actually has TJ bringing a waffle iron back from France and starting the tradition. Of course it's Wikipedia, not the Encyclopedia Brittanica, so take it with a grain of whatever seasoning floats your boat.


Actually Jefferson did bring back an assortment of cooking stuff from France. And he did come up with macaroni and cheese, though he called it macaroni pie.
 
2012-08-09 06:33:50 PM

meat0918: Egalitarian: so what exactly are the "lies" that are being lied about? Jefferson had sex with at least one slave woman, at least 6 times? He wasn't a born-again Christian?

The other thread had quotes about things in the Constitution being verbatim from the Bible.


I had never heard of this book or its author and that was my guess. Fundies desperately want something "scholarly" about the founders so they can claim America is a Christian nation and get their dominionist bullshiat codified into law.
 
2012-08-09 06:36:23 PM

WhyteRaven74: And he did come up with macaroni and cheese, though he called it macaroni pie.


That's because "macaroni pie" is mentioned verbatim in Genesis 25:30!
 
2012-08-09 06:39:09 PM

Nobodyn0se: From the other David Barton thread:

As many of you know, my mother, Judy Jennings, recently ran for Texas State Board of Education. Fark helped her out with donations and spreading the word, but unfortunately she lost her race :(

During the campaign, she and her fellow Democratic SBoE nominee from another district ran a commercial about David Barton (I can't remember the exact reasoning. Barton was an adviser for both their opponents or something). During this commercial, it was claimed that Barton spoke at a white supremacist rally. Barton is now suing my mother and her fellow candidate, claiming the commercial is slander. His defense is (quite literally) "Yes, I spoke at a white supremacist rally, but I didn't know they were white supremacists at the time."

If you'd like more information, or if you'd like to know how you can help, please look up Judy Jennings on the Facebook. She is running for State Board of Education again in 2012, and we would appreciate any support.

Some more information for you:

Link

Link

Link

And here's a link to her Facebook. PLEASE "like" her and spread the word!

Facebook


How does someone NOT know that they're speaking at a gathering of white supremacists? Did they put a bag over his head, drive him along a circuitous route to confuse him, lead him onto the stage and remove the bag long enough for him to make the speech, and then put the bag over his head and remove him from the stage before anyone had a chance to actually speak to him? Or does he simply lets his secretary set up his speaking arrangements sight unseen, and then shuffle out on the stage in a senile haze to vomit forth whatever pseudobiblical, theocratic spew his neurons have haphazardly slammed together only to disappear immediately afterward in a manner not altogether unlike Batman's vanishings after delivering a quiet tip to Commissioner Gordon? Because if he's that incurious about the world he lives in, that would explain a great deal.
 
2012-08-09 06:40:21 PM
The three chapters on Weezy are actually libel.
 
2012-08-09 06:42:04 PM
Just curious, what were the major "lies" that he claimed?
 
2012-08-09 06:42:16 PM

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: Because if he's that incurious about the world he lives in, that would explain a great deal.


DING DING DING DING!
 
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