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(NYPost)   Woman exercises her Second Amendment Right by opening fire on an 11-year-old girl who threw a piece of chalk too close to her chicken coop   (nypost.com) divider line 255
    More: Asinine, Staten Island, exercises, Elizabeth Gelman  
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2012-08-09 12:50:45 PM  
Leave it to a woman.
 
2012-08-09 12:51:24 PM  
Scratch your ground.
 
2012-08-09 12:51:30 PM  
Did she punch her in the stomach and steal her beach ball, too?
 
2012-08-09 12:52:18 PM  
This NRA shiat is going great.
 
2012-08-09 12:52:21 PM  
I guess Conrad Slimak's mom owns a chicken coop
 
2012-08-09 12:53:37 PM  
People with guns often make the worst case for people having guns.
 
2012-08-09 12:54:46 PM  
"I felt something go right by my head, something hit my forearm," said the girl, who was struck by wood or siding that came loose from the bullets'

That's why I only shoot non-wood siding bullets. The wood sided ones always come apart on you.
 
2012-08-09 12:55:03 PM  
This all could've been prevented if the 11 year old was carrying a gun, amirite?
 
2012-08-09 12:55:15 PM  
Hey subby, do you want the King of England coming over here and pushing you around?
 
2012-08-09 12:55:42 PM  
I'm not seeing a second source for this story. You'd think there'd be one.
 
2012-08-09 12:55:53 PM  
Remember. These, and people accidentally shooting family members while cleaning their weapon are completely isolated incidents. The handful of incidents where someone actually does use a firearm to defend themselves that are never mentioned by the mainstream media that someone will be along shortly to link a story from the mainstream media about to prove it are the real truth.

Don't meddle with old unloaded firearms. They are the most deadly and unerring things that have ever been created by man. You don't have to take any pains at all with them; you don't have to have a rest, you don't have to have any sights on the gun, you don't have to take aim, even. No, you just pick out a relative and bang away, and you are sure to get him. A youth who can't hit a cathedral at thirty yards with a Gatling gun in three-quarters of an hour, can take up an old empty musket and bag his mother every time at a hundred. Think what Waterloo would have been if one of the armies had been boys armed with old rusty muskets supposed not to be loaded, and the other army had been composed of their female relations. The very thought of it makes me shudder.
- Mark Twain - Advice to Youth speech, 4/15/1882


/Mostly just starting the trolling early
//Mostly
 
2012-08-09 12:55:57 PM  
Three gun threads in one day! Awesome!
 
2012-08-09 12:56:00 PM  
I don't think she fired at them because the girl threw chalk too close to her chicken coop, I think she shot at them because they called the police on her for vandalizing their car.
 
2012-08-09 12:56:28 PM  
This is why we all need to stand our ground.
 
2012-08-09 12:57:07 PM  
Keep on farking those chickens, you little miscreant! Now, get offa yer lawn.
 
2012-08-09 12:57:37 PM  
She has sharp knees.
 
2012-08-09 12:57:53 PM  
EAT MOR LED!
 
2012-08-09 12:57:58 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: This NRA shiat is going great.


But don't you dare call them gun nuts?
 
2012-08-09 12:58:19 PM  
Seriously, we just need more guns... if the little girl had been armed, this would have never happened.
 
2012-08-09 12:59:13 PM  
Is NBC seriously telling me that London has a subway sys--- yes, they are. They're telling me the Underground exists. Fark me sideways.
 
2012-08-09 12:59:15 PM  
That's attempted murder right?
 
2012-08-09 12:59:36 PM  
Any news release that begins with "A crazed Staten Island woman," is sure to be engaging.

PsyLord: This all could've been prevented if the 11 year old was carrying a gun, amirite?


No but it could have been stopped after the crazed woman began her enraged shooting and before waiting half an hour for the police.
 
2012-08-09 12:59:55 PM  

MAYORBOB: Keep on farking those chickens, you little miscreant! Now, get offa yer lawn.


Screw you Bob!
 
2012-08-09 01:00:26 PM  

stonicus: Seriously, we just need more guns... if the little girl had been armed, this would have never happened.


Per the NRA, every fetus should be armed. That way we all grow up to be cowards and unable to engage in any form of discussion.
 
2012-08-09 01:00:47 PM  

T.M.S.: That's attempted murder right?


Yup. A quick trial, conviction and hanging is in order. Too bad the pussies in the injustice system won't do a farking thing right.
 
2012-08-09 01:01:00 PM  
"I threw a piece of chalk in her yard," Alexis said. "I don't know why."

Little shiat.

Anyone with neighbors who have bratty kids can relate to the desire to bust a cap at them. Of course, most of us only fantasize about it.
 
2012-08-09 01:02:28 PM  
It would be weirdly pleasant to know you will never see your neighbor again and that awful tent is coming down. Hopefully the fence will be replaced too.
 
2012-08-09 01:02:56 PM  

rosebud_the_sled: stonicus: Seriously, we just need more guns... if the little girl had been armed, this would have never happened.

Per the NRA, every fetus should be armed. That way we all grow up to be cowards and unable to engage in any form of discussion.


Wha, you want armless fetuses?
 
2012-08-09 01:03:52 PM  
The NRA - protecting your chicken coop from kids with chalk for 100 years.
 
2012-08-09 01:03:55 PM  

ongbok: I don't think she fired at them because the girl threw chalk too close to her chicken coop, I think she shot at them because they called the police on her for vandalizing their car.she wouldn't stop singing the national anthem


FTFY
 
2012-08-09 01:04:02 PM  
(Everything that follows assumes that the details of this story are accurate)

While two wrongs don't make a right, maybe if the little snowflake wasn't throwing shiat over the fence this wouldn't have happened. Respecting the most basic aspects of property rights would go a long way to curbing this.

Some people don't like being farked with. It's not like the police will do much if some little shiat is throwing small stuff over your fence, even at your animals. If the parents are dismissive, inept, impotent and don't make it stop, you're left with minimal official recourse and you get to pick up their litter so your animals don't eat it. Eventually you get sick of it, snap, and end up where we are now.

Not saying I agree, but I understand.
 
2012-08-09 01:04:48 PM  
if we make chalk illegal then only criminals will..... what, make oddly colored butterflies on the sidewalk?
 
2012-08-09 01:05:26 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: T.M.S.: That's attempted murder right?

Yup. A quick trial, conviction and hanging is in order. Too bad the pussies in the injustice system won't do a farking thing right.


Hey now, we can't have white people going to jail and mixing with the colors...
 
2012-08-09 01:06:04 PM  

ackb4r: "I threw a piece of chalk in her yard," Alexis said. "I don't know why."

Little shiat.

Anyone with neighbors who have bratty kids can relate to the desire to bust a cap at them. Of course, most of us only fantasize about it.


Bad men do what good men think.
 
2012-08-09 01:06:14 PM  

rosebud_the_sled: stonicus: Seriously, we just need more guns... if the little girl had been armed, this would have never happened.

Per the NRA, every fetus should be armed. That way we all grow up to be cowards and unable to engage in any form of discussion.


Lol, is that truly what you think guns prevent? Discussion? I own several guns and speak to random people on a daily basis. The purpose of my gun collection is as the 2nd amendment puts it and not a penny more. I'm sorry that you're opposed to any drop of violence in the proverbial social bucket, but that's life. Not everyone lives in an area with 0 crime. Not everyone lives a lifestyle or works at a job where they don't encounter dangerous people. Grow up and open your mind -- your world is NOT everyone else's world.
 
2012-08-09 01:06:17 PM  
i'd hit it
 
2012-08-09 01:06:26 PM  
Hanging, not jail.
 
2012-08-09 01:08:14 PM  

T.M.S.: That's attempted murder right?


It should be. If they plea this down to assault i'd be pissed.
 
2012-08-09 01:08:42 PM  

pedrop357: (Everything that follows assumes that the details of this story are accurate)

While two wrongs don't make a right, maybe if the little snowflake wasn't throwing shiat over the fence this wouldn't have happened. Respecting the most basic aspects of property rights would go a long way to curbing this.

Some people don't like being farked with. It's not like the police will do much if some little shiat is throwing small stuff over your fence, even at your animals. If the parents are dismissive, inept, impotent and don't make it stop, you're left with minimal official recourse and you get to pick up their litter so your animals don't eat it. Eventually you get sick of it, snap, and end up where we are now.

Not saying I agree, but I understand.


Here is what the article said:

The drama began Sunday when Alexis was playing with a pal near Gelman's home.

"I threw a piece of chalk in her yard," Alexis said. "I don't know why."

Later, Gelman approached Sharon and flipped out over the incident, the mom said.

"Your daughter threw chalk at my chicken," Gelman hissed, Sharon said.

Later that day, a bike belonging to Ranieri's youngest daughter, Felicia, was damaged. The next morning, Rainieri found that her car had been keyed and spray-painted."

How does throwing chalk at a chicken beget understanding the escalation to damaging the kids bike, vandalizing the family's car, and end with taking pot shots at them with a firearm?

Nobody is going to argue kids do stupid shiat. I did mean shiat to animals when I was a kid. But who in their right mind would understand if someone unloaded a revolver at me for it?

Or am I just being trolled?
 
2012-08-09 01:08:52 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: T.M.S.: That's attempted murder right?

Yup. A quick trial, conviction and hanging is in order. Too bad the pussies in the injustice system won't do a farking thing right.


I can smell the sarcasm from here, but in some respects thats not an untrue statement. Someone incapable of realizing that shooting at small children, as fun as it may seem, is not acceptable and they need to be...detached from mainstream society.
 
2012-08-09 01:09:10 PM  
She was charged with weapons possession and possession of ammunition and freed without bail.

Uh.... I thought owning a weapon and ammo were legal in the US. NY state some kind of exception to the Supreme Court? Did I miss something?
 
2012-08-09 01:09:20 PM  

NutznGum: People with guns often make the worst case for people having guns.


Actually, the media doesn't care about responsible, sensible gun owners.

Consider: "Completely sane man with gun ambushed by two Mexicans, held at knife point unable to safely draw his firearm, robbed. Firearm stolen in robbery, there are now Mexican muggers with a gun not registered to them out there."

Consider: "Heroic man shoots insane man in the head after insane man attempts to attack people at a Denny's with a machette."

Consider: "farking crazy woman gibbers at people for tossing a piece of chalk near some chickens, damages property, then tries to assassinate an 11 year old girl using a .38 pistol as a sniper rifle, then pretends to be a sane rational quiet housewife."

The first two are interesting, but would get boring quick. The last is ... holy shiat that's sitcom material. This is the kind of thing people want to see: crazy folks.

pedrop357:
While two wrongs don't make a right, maybe if the little snowflake wasn't throwing shiat over the fence this wouldn't have happened.

you're left with minimal official recourse and you get to pick up their litter so your animals don't eat it


It's magnesium carbonate. It's harmless.
 
2012-08-09 01:09:32 PM  
i r gud at tags
 
2012-08-09 01:11:33 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: i'd hit it


Dude, she's 11.
 
2012-08-09 01:12:13 PM  
YAY!!!!! Any excuse to try and take away peoples guns!
 
2012-08-09 01:13:12 PM  

MattyBlast: Did she punch her in the stomach and steal her beach ball, too?


That 11 year old girl is having a rough week.
 
2012-08-09 01:13:26 PM  

pedrop357: (Everything that follows assumes that the details of this story are accurate)

While two wrongs don't make a right, maybe if the little snowflake wasn't throwing shiat over the fence this wouldn't have happened. Respecting the most basic aspects of property rights would go a long way to curbing this.

Some people don't like being farked with. It's not like the police will do much if some little shiat is throwing small stuff over your fence, even at your animals. If the parents are dismissive, inept, impotent and don't make it stop, you're left with minimal official recourse and you get to pick up their litter so your animals don't eat it. Eventually you get sick of it, snap, and end up where we are now.

Not saying I agree, but I understand.


You gotta be careful with kids. I once had these neighbors who had twin girls. They were probably around 11 when I met them. They were always making too much noise. Finally I snapped and shot them both. Now they stand in my hallways at random times, asking me to play.

Kids, man. Can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em.
 
2012-08-09 01:13:35 PM  
Sharon said she "saw the gun from [Gelman's] window pointed right at my daughter. I don't know how my daughter is alive. Thank God she's OK."

From earlier in the story:

"She shot at me, but she just had bad aim."

So, we DO know how her daughter is alive. And I don't think it was the LORD's work.

Also, did anyone notice this in the story link...?
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/staten_island/cluckin_nuts_NZHOgr uiJlAp2G4LRuV21M#ixzz234OzjmZj
 
2012-08-09 01:13:38 PM  
She was charged with weapons possession and possession of ammunition and freed without bail.


They have a plausible claim about her shooting at her neighbors, she refused to answer the door, and they let her go? WTF.
 
2012-08-09 01:16:21 PM  

MightyPez: How does throwing chalk at a chicken beget understanding the escalation to damaging the kids bike, vandalizing the family's car, and end with taking pot shots at them with a firearm?

Nobody is going to argue kids do stupid shiat. I did mean shiat to animals when I was a kid. But who in their right mind would understand if someone unloaded a revolver at me for it?

Or am I just being trolled?


Not trolled.

It's probably pretty rare that a person does all this over a single incident. If she's batshiat crazy, then yes. That would mean that this was the very first time this girl threw anything over that fence and the neighbor went crazy. If that's the case, I don't understand. The scenario I alluded to was the ongoing neighbor harassment type, not the one-and-done that you presented.

If this is ongoing, I'd be willing to that this isn't the first time that something was thrown over the fence, AND I'd bet dollars to donuts the parents didn't like the chickens, the tent coop thing, or both and repeatedly expressed their feelings in front of or to the little girl and she did what some stupid little girls do and joined in the hate the way she knew how.

This lady is probably a little batty and 'bit' when antagonized and thus it began. I've seen that happen before and have read and/or heard about it a lot.
 
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