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(CBC)   Overcoming adversity and being decisively outplayed by the French, the Canadian women's soccer team scores the Bronze winning goal on their only decent scoring chance at the 92nd mark   (cbc.ca ) divider line
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2012-08-09 01:39:28 PM  
And the fan is going wild!...


/zzzzzz
 
2012-08-09 02:46:05 PM  
Yes, but how many heads were stomped in this game?
 
2012-08-09 02:47:33 PM  
Ah yes, that head-stomping, whining-about-the-rules-being-enforced, whaaaambulance adversity.
 
2012-08-09 02:53:13 PM  
As a Canucklehead, I have but one thing to say, eh?

p.twimg.com
 
2012-08-09 02:53:13 PM  
 
2012-08-09 02:59:41 PM  

SubBass49: Ah yes, that head-stomping, whining-about-the-rules-being-enforced, whaaaambulance adversity.


Yeah, after the crap they pulled against the US Women, and the crap they pulled in the media after the game, how anyone can root for Canada in futbol la femme is beyond me. Well, I guess they were playing farking France, but still...
 
2012-08-09 03:00:54 PM  
After watching the Canada v USA game, I was rooting for Canada in this match. But they really didn't play like they deserved it. Glad they won, but the French really deserved the win. Oh well, that's soccer for ya.
 
2012-08-09 03:07:11 PM  

Mr_H: After watching the Canada v USA game, I was rooting for Canada in this match. But they really didn't play like they deserved it. Glad they won, but the French really deserved the win. Oh well, that's soccer for ya.


not only the above but the kiss your sister round, 3 weeks from now no one outside of the people involved will remember who got bronze.
 
2012-08-09 03:19:28 PM  
Sweet victory with a heaping side order of sour grapes.
 
2012-08-09 03:21:40 PM  

farbekrieg: Mr_H: After watching the Canada v USA game, I was rooting for Canada in this match. But they really didn't play like they deserved it. Glad they won, but the French really deserved the win. Oh well, that's soccer for ya.

not only the above but the kiss your sister round, 3 weeks from now no one outside of the people involved will remember who got bronze.


...or the Gold.
 
2012-08-09 03:34:08 PM  

Decillion: farbekrieg: Mr_H: After watching the Canada v USA game, I was rooting for Canada in this match. But they really didn't play like they deserved it. Glad they won, but the French really deserved the win. Oh well, that's soccer for ya.

not only the above but the kiss your sister round, 3 weeks from now no one outside of the people involved will remember who got bronze.

...or the Gold.


Im not a huge soccer fan but im pretty sure i remember the mens and wimmenz gold winners for the last 3 or so olympics, and it seems highly likely someone will mention it the next time the olympics roll around, bronze winners... not so much

/yes i get sarcasm, it's just my sarcasm meter is busted
 
2012-08-09 03:44:51 PM  

farbekrieg: Im not a huge soccer fan but im pretty sure i remember the mens and wimmenz gold winners for the last 3 or so olympics, and it seems highly likely someone will mention it the next time the olympics roll around, bronze winners... not so much


You're in the minority. You're a pretty big soccer fan by American standards if you know that.

/I know Japan won the last WWC only because they mentioned it in the coverage about the final
 
2012-08-09 03:47:50 PM  

Scrotastic Method: SubBass49: Ah yes, that head-stomping, whining-about-the-rules-being-enforced, whaaaambulance adversity.

Yeah, after the crap they pulled against the US Women, and the crap they pulled in the media after the game, how anyone can root for Canada in futbol la femme is beyond me. Well, I guess they were playing farking France, but still...


Yes, I guess telling the truth about a completely bs call that led to the tying goal is wrong these days...

//Cheering for Canada
// And Japan
 
2012-08-09 03:49:47 PM  
No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...
 
2012-08-09 03:54:20 PM  

IAmRight: farbekrieg: Im not a huge soccer fan but im pretty sure i remember the mens and wimmenz gold winners for the last 3 or so olympics, and it seems highly likely someone will mention it the next time the olympics roll around, bronze winners... not so much

You're in the minority. You're a pretty big soccer fan by American standards if you know that.

/I know Japan won the last WWC only because they mentioned it in the coverage about the final


Damn its all that foriegn exposure from living overseas, but on the other hand I can now tell all you fungy glernsperners to go back to your armoured wankerball
 
2012-08-09 04:01:38 PM  

edgesrealm: Scrotastic Method: SubBass49: Ah yes, that head-stomping, whining-about-the-rules-being-enforced, whaaaambulance adversity.

Yeah, after the crap they pulled against the US Women, and the crap they pulled in the media after the game, how anyone can root for Canada in futbol la femme is beyond me. Well, I guess they were playing farking France, but still...

Yes, I guess telling the truth about a completely bs call that led to the tying goal is wrong these days...

//Cheering for Canada
// And Japan


Which completely BS call? The blatant Handling call, or the obvious Delay call against their goalie (for which she'd already been warned several times)? Because we can balance them out with the refs-didn't-see-it violence the Canadians were doing (head-stomping, punching and the like) to try and "win." Hey, if you're outskilled and outclassed, try to rough them up, right? How'd that work for you.
 
2012-08-09 04:14:10 PM  

Scrotastic Method: edgesrealm: Scrotastic Method: SubBass49: Ah yes, that head-stomping, whining-about-the-rules-being-enforced, whaaaambulance adversity.

Yeah, after the crap they pulled against the US Women, and the crap they pulled in the media after the game, how anyone can root for Canada in futbol la femme is beyond me. Well, I guess they were playing farking France, but still...

Yes, I guess telling the truth about a completely bs call that led to the tying goal is wrong these days...

//Cheering for Canada
// And Japan

Which completely BS call? The blatant Handling call, or the obvious Delay call against their goalie (for which she'd already been warned several times)? Because we can balance them out with the refs-didn't-see-it violence the Canadians were doing (head-stomping, punching and the like) to try and "win." Hey, if you're outskilled and outclassed, try to rough them up, right? How'd that work for you.


Oh please. Let's not get to over the top shall we? First of all if that ref consistently calls holding the ball to long by the goaltender then I say good for her. It's a good call by someone with the integrity to follow and enforce the rules. However, if this was the first time she calls it then it is a B.S. call. I'm not that familiar with her track record.
Second, I only briefly saw the hand ball call. I can't find any video of it, but it appeared to me to be completely unintentional as it deflected from her arm. That is a bad call.
As for the head stomping accusation. It's just completely absurd. Tancredi does not appear to even take her eye from the ball - she trips up on the shoulder and her foot comes down on the head. Jesus, she barely even lifts her leg. I think she had better things to worry about than kicking someone in the head and understandably so.
 
2012-08-09 04:17:18 PM  

Scrotastic Method: edgesrealm: Scrotastic Method: SubBass49: Ah yes, that head-stomping, whining-about-the-rules-being-enforced, whaaaambulance adversity.

Yeah, after the crap they pulled against the US Women, and the crap they pulled in the media after the game, how anyone can root for Canada in futbol la femme is beyond me. Well, I guess they were playing farking France, but still...

Yes, I guess telling the truth about a completely bs call that led to the tying goal is wrong these days...

//Cheering for Canada
// And Japan

Which completely BS call? The blatant Handling call, or the obvious Delay call against their goalie (for which she'd already been warned several times)? Because we can balance them out with the refs-didn't-see-it violence the Canadians were doing (head-stomping, punching and the like) to try and "win." Hey, if you're outskilled and outclassed, try to rough them up, right? How'd that work for you.


Not too badly. They came close against a heavily favoured team. Get to play the martyr after being screwed by the refs. Squeezed out a medal after some previous disappointing tournaments. The team leader is now a national hero and will carry the flag at the closing. They raised the profile for the women's game in Canada. Worked out nicely, thank you.

/Knight in white.
 
2012-08-09 04:18:44 PM  

change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...


cry some moar or better yet tell the French they deserve the bronze b/c Canada scored their goal at the last minute
 
2012-08-09 04:20:51 PM  

Rwa2play: change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...

cry some moar or better yet tell the French they deserve the bronze b/c Canada scored their goal at the last minute


Nah, I'll just ignore you because you're an idiot.
 
2012-08-09 04:23:09 PM  

change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...


Hey man we're in a recession! We're just doing our part by increasing the availability of our chief export!
 
2012-08-09 04:24:26 PM  

damnproud1388: change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...

Hey man we're in a recession! We're just doing our part by increasing the availability of our chief export!


An ignore and a favourite, this is a great thread so far!
 
2012-08-09 04:26:47 PM  
I'm Canadian, I thought our womens team were classless whiners and they were lucky Sinclair and a few others weren't suspended for this match. The calls may have been 'cheap' but those are the rules. This was not the 2007 Gold Cup fiasco the media and players tried to make it out to be.

Think the ref's call cost you the game? Then you didn't do enough to win in the first place. Also, not allowing 4 goals might have been a good idea.
 
2012-08-09 04:28:42 PM  

change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...


It's Fark.COM not Fark.CA ;)
 
2012-08-09 04:34:50 PM  

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...

It's Fark.COM not Fark.CA ;)


It will be... Oh yes, one day it will be.
 
2012-08-09 04:37:01 PM  

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...

It's Fark.COM not Fark.CA ;)


Exactly...should've gone with a "Welcome to Fark" myself
 
2012-08-09 04:38:06 PM  

Decillion: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...

It's Fark.COM not Fark.CA ;)

It will be... Oh yes, one day it will be.


Shh, don't reveal the plan too early, just let them keep on drinking their 'beer'
 
2012-08-09 04:40:10 PM  

change1211: damnproud1388: change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...

Hey man we're in a recession! We're just doing our part by increasing the availability of our chief export!

An ignore and a favourite, this is a great thread so far!


It'll be a short thread. Americans don't care about any game that doesn't involve them so I don't think there'll be a lot of comments.

Serious question though for those in the soccer know. I caught the last 10 minutes of the US-Japan match today and the american goalkeeper had the ball on the ground. (US up by one) I started counting as she got to her feet...now they cut away to a replay of a near goal and when they came back she had the ball on the ground and was just kicking it forward, after I got to 13.

My question is, given the 6 second rule that Canada got penalized for, when does the 6 seconds stop? Is it when she releases the ball from her hands (either pitching it ahead, or placing it on the turf in front of her) or is it when she moves the ball forward?

I don't really know enough about soccer to say whether that should have been a free kick, or a warning or whatever, I just thought it would have been ironic if the Americans got the same call against that they got for them when they played Canada.
 
2012-08-09 04:40:56 PM  

change1211: Decillion: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...

It's Fark.COM not Fark.CA ;)

It will be... Oh yes, one day it will be.

Shh, don't reveal the plan too early, just let them keep on drinking their 'beer'


I sincerely hope that you're not implying that all Americans are satisfied with "beer" like Budweiser instead of a Molson Canadian or Labatt Blue.
 
2012-08-09 04:41:03 PM  

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...

It's Fark.COM not Fark.CA ;)


It's also not Fark.us, a .com url is an international TLD.
 
2012-08-09 04:44:24 PM  

devioustrevor: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...

It's Fark.COM not Fark.CA ;)

It's also not Fark.us, a .com url is an international TLD.


Fark.US redirects to Fark.COM
 
2012-08-09 04:50:40 PM  

Scrotastic Method: SubBass49: Ah yes, that head-stomping, whining-about-the-rules-being-enforced, whaaaambulance adversity.

Yeah, after the crap they pulled against the US Women, and the crap they pulled in the media after the game, how anyone can root for Canada in futbol la femme is beyond me. Well, I guess they were playing farking France, but still...


The French owe that game to the Canadians.

And Americans.

And British.

They owe a lot of things to a lot of people.

Anyways, good job, hosers who wear hosiery. Gave us here in the States a hell of a match, and beat the team that the Anglosphere has contempt for.
 
2012-08-09 04:51:28 PM  
Not surprising, I thought the French outplayed the Japanese for very long stretches of their semi game. Just could not finish any of their chances at all.

// there was an awful PK attempt too
 
2012-08-09 05:04:06 PM  
Also I would like to say that the Cdn ladies did pretty awesome considering they finished dead last in the World Cup last year. New coach is definately earning his salary.

Might even be tempted to go see a game when the World Cup comes here in 2015.
 
2012-08-09 05:06:04 PM  

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: devioustrevor: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...

It's Fark.COM not Fark.CA ;)

It's also not Fark.us, a .com url is an international TLD.

Fark.US redirects to Fark.COM


You know how I know you've never entered Fark.ru into your browser bar?
 
2012-08-09 05:08:55 PM  

ReluctantPaladin: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: devioustrevor: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...

It's Fark.COM not Fark.CA ;)

It's also not Fark.us, a .com url is an international TLD.

Fark.US redirects to Fark.COM

You know how I know you've never entered Fark.ru into your browser bar?


No mention was made of Fark.ru, just Fark.us. Now that you mention it, I haven't but I just did and....wow....some great single ladies over on GreatLove.ru! I think I'll sign up!
 
2012-08-09 05:14:48 PM  

NutznGum: I'm Canadian, I thought our womens team were classless whiners and they were lucky Sinclair and a few others weren't suspended for this match. The calls may have been 'cheap' but those are the rules. This was not the 2007 Gold Cup fiasco the media and players tried to make it out to be.

Think the ref's call cost you the game? Then you didn't do enough to win in the first place. Also, not allowing 4 goals might have been a good idea.


Hell, if they call the head stomp it's not even as close as it was. That should have been a red card.
 
2012-08-09 05:16:57 PM  
Oh get over it, Canada. Referees don't decide games. Perhaps if you had more than just one player on your team (Sinclair), you could have won. The US was down and came back, each time, and they scored with 30 seconds in extra time...by fighting and not giving up, though they were all VERY tired.

And I agree with the unprofessional physical by Canada, especially Tancredi. She should have been carded early on.
 
2012-08-09 05:32:35 PM  
Mia Hamm couldn't hold a finger to Christine Sinclair, sorry Americheats. You may have the gold, but we have the GOAT
 
2012-08-09 05:33:42 PM  

ReluctantPaladin: change1211: damnproud1388: change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...

Serious question though for those in the soccer know. I caught the last 10 minutes of the US-Japan match today and the american goalkeeper had the ball on the ground. (US up by one) I started counting as she got to her feet...now they cut away to a replay of a near goal and when they came back she had the ball on the ground and was just kicking it forward, after I got to 13.

My question is, given the 6 second rule that Canada got penalized for, when does the 6 seconds stop? Is it when she releases the ball from her hands (either pitching it ahead, or placing it on the turf in front of her) or is it when she moves the ball forward?

I don't really know enough about soccer to say whether that should have been a free kick, or a warning or whatever, I just thought it would have been ironic if the Americans got the same call against that they got for them when they played Canada.


Noticed the same thing. Have the same question.
 
2012-08-09 05:33:56 PM  

reverend maynard: Second, I only briefly saw the hand ball call. I can't find any video of it, but it appeared to me to be completely unintentional as it deflected from her arm. That is a bad call.


Here's a video. She clearly raises her arm up to meet the ball. That's going to result in a deliberate call 99% of the time.
 
2012-08-09 05:34:46 PM  

fastfxr: Oh get over it, Canada. Referees don't decide games. Perhaps if you had more than just one player on your team (Sinclair), you could have won. The US was down and came back, each time, and they scored with 30 seconds in extra time...by fighting and not giving up, though they were all VERY tired.

And I agree with the unprofessional physical by Canada, especially Tancredi. She should have been carded early on.



The entire American team should have been yellow carded for all the diving they did that match. Pathetic sorry excuse for womens soccer that game was. Sinclair stood on her head and scored a hat trick trying to keep Canada ahead and the Americans hated it so much they wouldn't stop screaming in the refs ear the entire match.
 
mjg
2012-08-09 05:36:30 PM  
img004.lazygirls.info

Congrats to Kaylyn Kyle for being hot!
 
2012-08-09 05:40:15 PM  

Snapper Carr: reverend maynard: Second, I only briefly saw the hand ball call. I can't find any video of it, but it appeared to me to be completely unintentional as it deflected from her arm. That is a bad call.

Here's a video. She clearly raises her arm up to meet the ball. That's going to result in a deliberate call 99% of the time.


Ooh, yeah, that elbow is up. Not gonna get away with that.
 
2012-08-09 05:43:33 PM  

BudTheSpud: Mia Hamm couldn't hold a finger to Christine Sinclair, sorry Americheats. You may have the gold, but we have the GOAT


Good for you.
 
2012-08-09 05:46:47 PM  

Anonimoose On the Loose: ReluctantPaladin: change1211: damnproud1388: change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...

Serious question though for those in the soccer know. I caught the last 10 minutes of the US-Japan match today and the american goalkeeper had the ball on the ground. (US up by one) I started counting as she got to her feet...now they cut away to a replay of a near goal and when they came back she had the ball on the ground and was just kicking it forward, after I got to 13.

My question is, given the 6 second rule that Canada got penalized for, when does the 6 seconds stop? Is it when she releases the ball from her hands (either pitching it ahead, or placing it on the turf in front of her) or is it when she moves the ball forward?

I don't really know enough about soccer to say whether that should have been a free kick, or a warning or whatever, I just thought it would have been ironic if the Americans got the same call against that they got for them when they played Canada.

Noticed the same thing. Have the same question.


It's kind of subjective, but the counting stops when she starts the motion to release the ball 99% of the time (punt or throw). When I was a ref, I started counting when they got control of the ball, either on the ground or in the air. You're not allowed to just lay on the ball for awhile and get up when you feel like it. The parts of the game I saw today the US keeper had the ball for longer than 6 seconds, which is not uncommon, but it wasn't uncontested for that long. Basically the 6 second rule is gonna be violated a large percentage of the time, but it's not grossly over run. 8 seconds is common, but 10 is really, really pushing it. The canadian keeper was at 16+ 3 different times when she wasn't crowded around by US players. If you're not making an effort to release the ball, the ref is going to notice. The center should have warned her earlier, and frankly, should have warned/cautioned/penalized her after the 2nd occurrence.
 
2012-08-09 05:50:34 PM  

First off Congrats to Canada for its silver medal in Ladys soccer.

second off, Each call is subjective and can be seen many ways by many different people. That is why we have refs. Its there job to choose what is right and what is wrong. If they miss a call

they miss a call. If they think it was a hand ball, it was a hand ball. Its part of the game. The end goal is to end up with more points than the other team.
 
2012-08-09 05:50:54 PM  
Huge effort for our Sisters to the north. Well done. While I will agree that Sinclair is a phenomenal class act, Tancredi is a brute, and apparently an asshole to boot.
 
2012-08-09 05:52:43 PM  
Suck it, Canadian women's soccer team. Please? I'll buy dinner.
 
2012-08-09 06:02:05 PM  

BudTheSpud: Mia Hamm couldn't hold a finger to Christine Sinclair, sorry Americheats. You may have the gold, but we have the GOAT


You're not serious, are you? I think her 158 international goals is pretty hard to beat.
 
2012-08-09 06:02:49 PM  

Nhojwolfe: First off Congrats to Canada for its silver medal in Ladys soccer.

second off, Each call is subjective and can be seen many ways by many different people. That is why we have refs. Its there job to choose what is right and what is wrong. If they miss a callthey miss a call. If they think it was a hand ball, it was a hand ball. Its part of the game. The end goal is to end up with more points than the other team.


I need to correct myself Bronze medal
 
2012-08-09 06:20:06 PM  

BudTheSpud: Mia Hamm couldn't hold a finger to Christine Sinclair, sorry Americheats. You may have the gold, but we have the GOAT


Americheats?

Your inferiority complex is showing.
 
2012-08-09 06:25:48 PM  
This thread:

Americans: "fark soccer..."

Canadians: "Our women's team should have won against yours"

Americans: "GO TO HELL, USA SOCCER IS DOMINATE. U MAD."
 
2012-08-09 06:27:10 PM  

Lunchlady: BudTheSpud: Mia Hamm couldn't hold a finger to Christine Sinclair, sorry Americheats. You may have the gold, but we have the GOAT

Americheats?

Your inferiority complex is showing.


A country that is beloved around the world and has better a human/civil rights record doesn't feel inferior. We feel smug.

/arranges government procured monocle and top hat
 
2012-08-09 06:28:47 PM  

fastfxr: BudTheSpud: Mia Hamm couldn't hold a finger to Christine Sinclair, sorry Americheats. You may have the gold, but we have the GOAT

You're not serious, are you? I think her 158 international goals is pretty hard to beat.



I think it's a pretty common sentiment among the international football community that Sinclair is the greatest active player, and is considered by some the GOAT, although it's hard to name any active player as such.

158 (in 275) is pretty hard to beat, but 143 (in 190) isn't that far off, especially considering Christine is only 29. I'm not sure how many competitive games are played in the run-up/qualifying for WWC and Rio, but 15 goals doesn't seem out of reach. Hell, Abby Wambach (a pure finisher, and tied w/ Sinclair at 143 (in 187)) is likely to overtake Mia in goals, although probably not in GOAT rankings.

/Plus, she won a National Championship for her dying coach, who succumbed to cancer a few months afterwards. Beat that, Mia and your all-star Tar Heels! :P
 
2012-08-09 06:34:54 PM  

mjg: [img004.lazygirls.info image 409x620]

Congrats to Kaylyn Kyle for being hot!


I congratulate Kaylyn Kyle for having the sense to GTFO of the way when Matheson made that shot. Kyle was in an offside position by miles and the ball missed deflecting off her by inches.
 
2012-08-09 06:36:16 PM  

Loomy: fastfxr: BudTheSpud: Mia Hamm couldn't hold a finger to Christine Sinclair, sorry Americheats. You may have the gold, but we have the GOAT

You're not serious, are you? I think her 158 international goals is pretty hard to beat.


I think it's a pretty common sentiment among the international football community that Sinclair is the greatest active player, and is considered by some the GOAT, although it's hard to name any active player as such.

158 (in 275) is pretty hard to beat, but 143 (in 190) isn't that far off, especially considering Christine is only 29. I'm not sure how many competitive games are played in the run-up/qualifying for WWC and Rio, but 15 goals doesn't seem out of reach. Hell, Abby Wambach (a pure finisher, and tied w/ Sinclair at 143 (in 187)) is likely to overtake Mia in goals, although probably not in GOAT rankings.

/Plus, she won a National Championship for her dying coach, who succumbed to cancer a few months afterwards. Beat that, Mia and your all-star Tar Heels! :P


Wambach and the cutie Morgan really impressed me. The former seems a certainty to overtake Hamm. As for Morgan, is she much of a scorer or is she more the set-up gal? She seems like her skills would make her a good winger (she runs right at defender and is crafty on the ball).
 
2012-08-09 06:38:16 PM  

Scrotastic Method: edgesrealm: Scrotastic Method: SubBass49: Ah yes, that head-stomping, whining-about-the-rules-being-enforced, whaaaambulance adversity.

Yeah, after the crap they pulled against the US Women, and the crap they pulled in the media after the game, how anyone can root for Canada in futbol la femme is beyond me. Well, I guess they were playing farking France, but still...

Yes, I guess telling the truth about a completely bs call that led to the tying goal is wrong these days...

//Cheering for Canada
// And Japan

Which completely BS call? The blatant Handling call, or the obvious Delay call against their goalie (for which she'd already been warned several times)? Because we can balance them out with the refs-didn't-see-it violence the Canadians were doing (head-stomping, punching and the like) to try and "win." Hey, if you're outskilled and outclassed, try to rough them up, right? How'd that work for you.


Warned by who, the 4th official at the half? Only counts when the actual Ref does it. of the Blatant Handling? Handling? I'm I supposed to infer from your bastardization of the actual call you are trying to be sarcastic? Or are you actually the moran you seem to be trying to pretend to be? The Americans won and you are still this butthurt?!? Get a farkin' Life! no let me fix that... Get a non-farkin' life.
 
2012-08-09 06:38:58 PM  

redmid17: Anonimoose On the Loose: ReluctantPaladin: change1211: damnproud1388: change1211: No shortage of Americans being assholes in here I see. Not really a surprise...

Serious question though for those in the soccer know. I caught the last 10 minutes of the US-Japan match today and the american goalkeeper had the ball on the ground. (US up by one) I started counting as she got to her feet...now they cut away to a replay of a near goal and when they came back she had the ball on the ground and was just kicking it forward, after I got to 13.

My question is, given the 6 second rule that Canada got penalized for, when does the 6 seconds stop? Is it when she releases the ball from her hands (either pitching it ahead, or placing it on the turf in front of her) or is it when she moves the ball forward?

I don't really know enough about soccer to say whether that should have been a free kick, or a warning or whatever, I just thought it would have been ironic if the Americans got the same call against that they got for them when they played Canada.

Noticed the same thing. Have the same question.

It's kind of subjective, but the counting stops when she starts the motion to release the ball 99% of the time (punt or throw). When I was a ref, I started counting when they got control of the ball, either on the ground or in the air. You're not allowed to just lay on the ball for awhile and get up when you feel like it. The parts of the game I saw today the US keeper had the ball for longer than 6 seconds, which is not uncommon, but it wasn't uncontested for that long. Basically the 6 second rule is gonna be violated a large percentage of the time, but it's not grossly over run. 8 seconds is common, but 10 is really, really pushing it. The canadian keeper was at 16+ 3 different times when she wasn't crowded around by US players. If you're not making an effort to release the ball, the ref is going to notice. The center should have warned her earlier, and frankly, should have warne ...


Thanks, like I said I don't know much about the rules. I had seen you saw in other threads the bit about the 16+ x 3. I only saw the last 10-15 minutes today so I don't know what the goalkeeper was doing for the whole match. I just thought it was funny cause the only time I decided to count (to see exactly HOW FAST 6 seconds was) it was 13 seconds (rewinded PVR and confirmed it). But also they were showing a replay so I can't say what she was doing during that point so I wasn't ready to start screaming "Ameri-CHEATS".

/although I did see one of the US mouthing off about a yellow card in dying moments of todays game
 
2012-08-09 06:42:50 PM  
Also, for the 6-seconds rule: If you're a good ref, you warn the goalie THAT PLAY. You don't warn them earlier and then go silent in the dying moments of a game with the team up 1. At the 4-5 second mark, you tell that goalie that he/she is close to the max. time allowed.

Anywho, maybe I'm talking out my patoot. Good on the ladies for bringing home the bronze and good luck to Japan :P
 
2012-08-09 06:47:11 PM  

Patterson: Also, for the 6-seconds rule: If you're a good ref, you warn the goalie THAT PLAY. You don't warn them earlier and then go silent in the dying moments of a game with the team up 1. At the 4-5 second mark, you tell that goalie that he/she is close to the max. time allowed.

Anywho, maybe I'm talking out my patoot. Good on the ladies for bringing home the bronze and good luck to Japan :P


About Japan ... You might want to sit down for this...
 
2012-08-09 06:50:07 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: Patterson: Also, for the 6-seconds rule: If you're a good ref, you warn the goalie THAT PLAY. You don't warn them earlier and then go silent in the dying moments of a game with the team up 1. At the 4-5 second mark, you tell that goalie that he/she is close to the max. time allowed.

Anywho, maybe I'm talking out my patoot. Good on the ladies for bringing home the bronze and good luck to Japan :P

About Japan ... You might want to sit down for this...


lol'ing hard at myself now. Didn't see that! However, a quick visit to ESPN has confirmed my idiocy. Congrats to the Yank broads!
 
2012-08-09 07:24:03 PM  

sno man: Scrotastic Method: edgesrealm: Scrotastic Method: SubBass49: Ah yes, that head-stomping, whining-about-the-rules-being-enforced, whaaaambulance adversity.

Yeah, after the crap they pulled against the US Women, and the crap they pulled in the media after the game, how anyone can root for Canada in futbol la femme is beyond me. Well, I guess they were playing farking France, but still...

Yes, I guess telling the truth about a completely bs call that led to the tying goal is wrong these days...

//Cheering for Canada
// And Japan

Which completely BS call? The blatant Handling call, or the obvious Delay call against their goalie (for which she'd already been warned several times)? Because we can balance them out with the refs-didn't-see-it violence the Canadians were doing (head-stomping, punching and the like) to try and "win." Hey, if you're outskilled and outclassed, try to rough them up, right? How'd that work for you.

Warned by who, the 4th official at the half? Only counts when the actual Ref does it. of the Blatant Handling? Handling? I'm I supposed to infer from your bastardization of the actual call you are trying to be sarcastic? Or are you actually the moran you seem to be trying to pretend to be? The Americans won and you are still this butthurt?!? Get a farkin' Life! no let me fix that... Get a non-farkin' life.


Good lord man. It's women's soccer. Breathe.

Then bask in the irony of your rambling, impassioned, over-punctuated post saying I'm the one with the butthurt. Hoser.
 
2012-08-09 08:09:58 PM  
Good on the Canadians for winning! We didn't deserve it in the least, but France couldn't put the ball in the back of the net and Canada did. On a play that I think should be called Offside, but I'm about the only one who's brought it up and it's been quite extensively explained to me. France outplayed Canada all game long, and had complete control of the midfield, which normally means a victory. they just couldn't get that final touch; it's a shame they lost, and a tip of the hat to the French team for playing a very good game.

/I'm rather old school about my soccer, and I like my offsides and my hand balls to be unambiguous again. When I played, if I was behind the other teams defenders when the ball came forward, I was offside. Didn't matter if I was on the other side of the pitch chasing a butterfly, the play was offside. For a handball, if the ball touched my hand or arm, it was a handball. Didn't matter if it was intentional or not, or if I was protecting my nutsack - it was a handball. Also, if I wrapped both arms around an opposing player and tried to pull them away from the ball, I'd get a yellow card.
//Now, it's all subjective. Ball hits someones hand in the 18 box, sometimes it's a penalty kick (like for the USA against Canada), sometimes it's ignored (like for Japan against the USA). Sometimes you can Suh stomp on someones head (like Canada against the USA), and the next game someone can arm tackle a player in the 18 with the same result (like the USA against Japan).
 
2012-08-09 08:34:11 PM  

Scrotastic Method: sno man: Scrotastic Method: edgesrealm: Scrotastic Method: SubBass49: Ah yes, that head-stomping, whining-about-the-rules-being-enforced, whaaaambulance adversity.

Yeah, after the crap they pulled against the US Women, and the crap they pulled in the media after the game, how anyone can root for Canada in futbol la femme is beyond me. Well, I guess they were playing farking France, but still...

Yes, I guess telling the truth about a completely bs call that led to the tying goal is wrong these days...

//Cheering for Canada
// And Japan

Which completely BS call? The blatant Handling call, or the obvious Delay call against their goalie (for which she'd already been warned several times)? Because we can balance them out with the refs-didn't-see-it violence the Canadians were doing (head-stomping, punching and the like) to try and "win." Hey, if you're outskilled and outclassed, try to rough them up, right? How'd that work for you.

Warned by who, the 4th official at the half? Only counts when the actual Ref does it. of the Blatant Handling? Handling? I'm I supposed to infer from your bastardization of the actual call you are trying to be sarcastic? Or are you actually the moran you seem to be trying to pretend to be? The Americans won and you are still this butthurt?!? Get a farkin' Life! no let me fix that... Get a non-farkin' life.

Good lord man. It's women's soccer. Breathe.

Then bask in the irony of your rambling, impassioned, over-punctuated post saying I'm the one with the butthurt. Hoser.


Four characters longer than your comment and I'm rambling. Ahunh.
And buddy, I was basking in the irony typing it! But it need to be typed.
 
2012-08-10 07:30:26 AM  
If we've learned one thing from this experience, it's that head-stomping and crap calls by the ref both make soccer considerably more interesting.
 
2012-08-10 08:45:19 AM  

Patterson: Lunchlady: BudTheSpud: Mia Hamm couldn't hold a finger to Christine Sinclair, sorry Americheats. You may have the gold, but we have the GOAT

Americheats?

Your inferiority complex is showing.

A country that is beloved around the world and has better a human/civil rights record doesn't feel inferior. We feel smug.

/arranges government procured monocle and top hat


Indifference = beloved? Face it, nobody outside of Canada gives half a shiat about the place except maybe the Queen of England but only because she rules it. Until you guys can export anything better than syrup, hockey players, ass rock, and overrated beer and tell the commonwealth to frig off enjoy your spot at the worlds kiddie table.
 
2012-08-10 08:55:32 AM  

edgesrealm: Scrotastic Method: SubBass49: Ah yes, that head-stomping, whining-about-the-rules-being-enforced, whaaaambulance adversity.

Yeah, after the crap they pulled against the US Women, and the crap they pulled in the media after the game, how anyone can root for Canada in futbol la femme is beyond me. Well, I guess they were playing farking France, but still...

Yes, I guess telling the truth about a completely bs call that led to the tying goal is wrong these days...

//Cheering for Canada
// And Japan


Oh, no! We got caught trying to cheat! Obviously everyone is against us!
 
2012-08-10 09:08:00 AM  
Canada may have lost to the U.S. but they scored 3 good goals against that coont Hope Solo so they won gold in my mind.
 
2012-08-10 09:16:15 AM  

Scrotastic Method: SubBass49: Ah yes, that head-stomping, whining-about-the-rules-being-enforced, whaaaambulance adversity.

Yeah, after the crap they pulled against the US Women, and the crap they pulled in the media after the game, how anyone can root for Canada in futbol la femme is beyond me. Well, I guess they were playing farking France, but still...


no amount of pro-US refereeing could keep Canada from winning this game.
 
2012-08-10 01:50:12 PM  

MoeSzyslak: Patterson: Lunchlady: BudTheSpud: Mia Hamm couldn't hold a finger to Christine Sinclair, sorry Americheats. You may have the gold, but we have the GOAT

Americheats?

Your inferiority complex is showing.

A country that is beloved around the world and has better a human/civil rights record doesn't feel inferior. We feel smug.

/arranges government procured monocle and top hat

Indifference = beloved? Face it, nobody outside of Canada gives half a shiat about the place except maybe the Queen of England but only because she rules it. Until you guys can export anything better than syrup, hockey players, ass rock, and overrated beer and tell the commonwealth to frig off enjoy your spot at the worlds kiddie table.


And oil.
 
2012-08-10 03:58:25 PM  

swaxhog: Canada may have lost to the U.S. but they scored 3 good goals against that coont Hope Solo so they won gold in my mind.


which she blamed on her teammates
stay classy hope
 
2012-08-10 03:59:40 PM  
The U.S womens team is going to get an ugly reaction in 2015 when we host FIFA world cup.
Canadians don't forget.
 
2012-08-10 04:12:18 PM  
As for Alex Morgan saying they wanted to win more, that was a dumb thing to say.
Both teams wanted to win, one team doesn't always have to want it more.

She was in the right place to head it at the right time. That is all.

Anyone see her in the Japan game? She had two chances to pass to teammates
in scoring pos, and she shot both times and missed.

Ball hogs don't impress me. She has a lot of growing up to do.
 
2012-08-10 04:14:30 PM  
As for France, I don't feel sorry for them after they claimed Canada was afraid of them.
That we would easily hand them a W everytime we play them.

Karmas a biatch ain't it ladies?
 
2012-08-10 10:51:54 PM  

ontariolightning: As for Alex Morgan saying they wanted to win more, that was a dumb thing to say.
Both teams wanted to win, one team doesn't always have to want it more.

She was in the right place to head it at the right time. That is all.

Anyone see her in the Japan game? She had two chances to pass to teammates
in scoring pos, and she shot both times and missed.

Ball hogs don't impress me. She has a lot of growing up to do.


#1, she's 23. She has plenty of time to grow up.

#2, she led the tournament in assists, including a gorgeous setup of Lloyd's first goal.

#3, she was actually told by Wambach before the Canada match that she has to be more assertive and look to score more often.

I think she'll turn out just fine.
 
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