I just realized: the simple act of having Fluke introduce Obama at a random campaign event is a shrewder move than anything the Romney campaign has managed to pull off.

Obama loses badly among white men, but in the states where he has been able to keep a lead, he has done so because support from white women offsets that deficit.

Ah yes. The "where all the white women at" strategy. A good counter to the Republican "rape, murder, arson, and rape" and "the sheriff's a ni-" tactics. I can't wait for the "candygram" move in October.

Shh, don't tell your husband you're voting for Obama.

Kome: Obama loses badly among white men, but in the states where he has been able to keep a lead, he has done so because support from white women offsets that deficit.

Ah yes. The "where all the white women at" strategy. A good counter to the Republican "rape, murder, arson, and rape" and "the sheriff's a ni-" tactics. I can't wait for the "candygram" move in October.

Well, the campfire farting scene's coming up in two weeks.

Liberals aren't being taken for granted anymore, he needs them to turn out in big numbers if he's going to lose all the white people. So he's focusing on women and gay rights, and that's pretty damned spiffy IMHO.

The white voters most opposed to Obama have consistently been men who do not have a college degree. Among those voters, Obama trailed by 32 percentage points in Colorado and 24 percentage points in Ohio. He trailed by an even bigger margin, 42 percentage points, among non-college-educated white men in a third swing state, Virginia, according to the Quinnipiac surveys.

What difference would being white and without college education have on who you vote for? Oh yeah, he's black.

sprawl15: I just realized: the simple act of having Fluke introduce Obama at a random campaign event is a shrewder move than anything the Romney campaign has managed to pull off.

We need to come up with a title to convey our appreciation of their skill at trolling. All they've done this campaign is dangle juicy bits and reel in the catch.

Wow, who would have figured that Women would be a factor in this election?

Kome: Obama loses badly among white men

Makes me ashamed to be a white man.

/"You mean I'm gonna stay this color?"

DarnoKonrad: Liberals aren't being taken for granted anymore, he needs them to turn out in big numbers if he's going to lose all the OLD white people MALES. So he's focusing on women and gay rights, and that's pretty damned spiffy IMHO.

ftfy

One repeated finding of polls over the last decade has been that white men without college educations strongly believe Washington has failed to look out for their interests and think that government spending primarily benefits others - including insider elites and minorities. The Romney campaign's sally into the welfare issue hits directly at those concerns.

Do these retards think that tax cuts for the rich are in their interests? I guess there's a reason they never made it to college.

Honestly, I can't imagine why a woman would vote for Romney or any Republican candidate. Seriously.

Actually, that's not true. My sister's sister-in-law (which makes her what to me I don't know) is the kind of woman who puts on makeup and makes sure the house is spotless before her husband gets home. She even tells her daughter that we "serve dinner to daddy first because he pays for everything and is in charge" and "it's a woman's job to be an obedient wife." She seriosuly says these things. She's voting for Romney.

(That family is also uber-Christian and by "Christian" I mean "poor people are poor because they don't work hard and there sure are a lot of Mexicans living in Colorado now" type Christians.)

FTA:
"The white voters most opposed to Obama have consistently been men who do not have a college degree."

My shocked face. Let me show you it.

Also:
"By contrast, Romney said, Obama "with a very careful executive action ... removed the requirement of work from welfare."

Obama's action did not, in fact, remove the work requirement from the welfare law. The administration issued a statement in mid-July saying that it would give states waivers that would allow them greater flexibility to set up welfare-to-work programs but would require them to show that their programs increase the number of welfare recipients who get work. The move was in response to requests from several states, including California, but also such Republican bastions as Utah."

Honestly, I don't know how Obama doesn't just completely flip out and tear Mitt a new one over this. I understand stretching the truth. I understand taking something out of context (to a certain extent). I understand deliberately misleading voters (to a certain extent). But THIS?

Mitt just flat out LIED about what the administration did. LIED. And not just LIED, but lied in a way that is the complete opposite of the objective of the administration's actions.

It's f*cking pathetic. It's shameful. It's the type of thing that would get your ass kicked in my neighborhood if you tried to pull that bullsh*t. Mitt is a pathetic, desperate, shameless man who has no honor or integrity.

That so many people would ignore such actions and still vote for him speaks volumes about the state of our nation, our educational system, and our media.

Amazing. Just amazing.
I hope Obama takes him to the woodshed over this during the debates. I mean, I really, REALLY hope he works Mitt over without a shred of mercy. I want him to make Mitt cry.

who thinks minorities when welfare gets brought up? don't normal human beings think of the people that they know who are/were on welfare, which normally is your own race?

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is that only me or anyone else see the contour of a womens body in those two lines?

Gee, maybe that's because mothers are women, and mothers often have children (grown or not) who are also of the female gender. Now why on earth would women be flocking to Obama this election season? (Or at the very least, running from the GOO?)

And just like that, I've renamed the GOP the GOO.

Mike Chewbacca: And just like that, I've renamed the GOP the GOO.

Grand Old Opry?

Grand Old Obfuscators?

Grand Old Obstructionists?

Bad_Seed: One repeated finding of polls over the last decade has been that white men without college educations strongly believe Washington has failed to look out for their interests and think that government spending primarily benefits others - including insider elites and minorities. The Romney campaign's sally into the welfare issue hits directly at those concerns.

Do these retards think that tax cuts for the rich are in their interests? I guess there's a reason they never made it to college.

republicans cut their taxes as much as democrats, but they argue against opening up the borders in order to bring in new Democratic voters that also take their jobs and drive down their wages. the democrats turned neoliberal and argue for increased immigration and outsourcing, not less.
the democrats abandoned the white working class decades ago when they revamped the immigration system in order to secure more poor people to vote for their party.
and who signed the largest capital gains tax cut for the ultra wealthy in history in 1997 (cap gains rates from 28% to 20% - a decline of 28.5%). BIll Clinton?
these working class whites understand more than you do.

How revolting is it when political experts are openly suggesting that Romney's only shot at victory comes from blatant race-baiting and stoking base racial fears in ignorant white people.

Said Romney, "People who receive payments from the government are going to be required to do work, not as a punitive measure but as a gift. Work is enhancing; work is elevating...

...or so I've heard from the folks that feed my horses and build my car elevators. I have no idea."

Infernalist: How revolting is it when political experts are openly suggesting that Romney's only shot at victory comes from blatant race-baiting and stoking base racial fears in ignorant white people.

Not as revolting as the fact that he might win because of it and that even if he doesn't, at least 48% of the country agrees with him on it.

relcec: who thinks minorities when welfare gets brought up? don't normal human beings think of the people that they know who are/were on welfare, which normally is your own race?

Mitt Romney, judging by his NAACP speech.

Lord Dimwit: Infernalist: How revolting is it when political experts are openly suggesting that Romney's only shot at victory comes from blatant race-baiting and stoking base racial fears in ignorant white people.

Not as revolting as the fact that he might win because of it and that even if he doesn't, at least 48% of the country agrees with him on it.

He's not going to win. I've seen enough elections to know that 'undecided' voters aren't really all that undecided. They're just keeping quiet on who they're voting for. It takes a lot to undo an incumbent that is scandal-free(after 4 years!)

But, yes, it's said that so much of the country remains tangled up in stupid tribal thinking.

Rwa2play: El Morro: Amazing. Just amazing.
I hope Obama takes him to the woodshed over this during the debates. I mean, I really, REALLY hope he works Mitt over without a shred of mercy. I want him to make Mitt cry.

This; hope Obama goes for the Chinese water torture tactic on Romney during the debates. Make it slow, deliberate and maddening.

It all depends on if they'll get a moderator who will let an ass beating occur. 5 will get you 10 they pull the standard "You each get to say something, then we change the topic regardless of what's said" routine, though.

Republitards,


You did this to yourself. Now sleep tightly in that bed you've made.


Signed,
Women

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Women, white people: Is that what campaign 2012 is coming down to?

Ahahahah

Came here for this, and was not disappointed.

relcec: Bad_Seed: One repeated finding of polls over the last decade has been that white men without college educations strongly believe Washington has failed to look out for their interests and think that government spending primarily benefits others - including insider elites and minorities. The Romney campaign's sally into the welfare issue hits directly at those concerns.

Do these retards think that tax cuts for the rich are in their interests? I guess there's a reason they never made it to college.

republicans cut their taxes as much as democrats, but they argue against opening up the borders in order to bring in new Democratic voters that also take their jobs and drive down their wages. the democrats turned neoliberal and argue for increased immigration and outsourcing, not less.
the democrats abandoned the white working class decades ago when they revamped the immigration system in order to secure more poor people to vote for their party.
and who signed the largest capital gains tax cut for the ultra wealthy in history in 1997 (cap gains rates from 28% to 20% - a decline of 28.5%). BIll Clinton?
these working class whites understand more than you do. DDDDDEEEEERRRRPPPPPPPPPPPP!

It's amazing you can get to a keyboard without setting yourself on fire.

Said Romney, "People who receive payments from the government are going to be required to do work, not as a punitive measure but as a gift. Work is enhancing; work is elevating... Arbeit Macht Frei.

relcec: these working class whites understand more than you do.

Working class whites don't understand a damn thing. Instead of organising within unions and their natural party and trying to influence its policy they decided to throw a tantrum and support the side that's going to screw them even harder. The only thing they have left, as Obama once wisely observed is clinging to God, guns and the flag, while the rest of the world continues to leave them behind. Any time somebody does try to help them they scream that it's socialism and they want none of it.

Infernalist: But, yes, it's said that so much of the country remains tangled up in stupid tribal thinking.

You know who is tribal

To be fair, it's less that Obama is targeting the female vote and more that the GOP has been heavily lobbying females for Obama and he's given them a puzzled look, shrugged, and said "thanks, guys".

All the legwork of making the demographic a lock for the Dems has been done by the GOP.

//While Obama is going to demolish Romney in the debates, I rather suspect he'll do it politely, that's more his style than the "burn everything" tactic that people in the thread are rooting for. He's one of the few people in politics that's actually a relatively good guy without sacrificing competence.

Jim_Callahan: To be fair, it's less that Obama is targeting the female vote and more that the GOP has been heavily lobbying females for Obama and he's given them a puzzled look, shrugged, and said "thanks, guys".

All the legwork of making the demographic a lock for the Dems has been done by the GOP.

//While Obama is going to demolish Romney in the debates, I rather suspect he'll do it politely, that's more his style than the "burn everything" tactic that people in the thread are rooting for. He's one of the few people in politics that's actually a relatively good guy without sacrificing competence.

That's what I can't understand about the Right. Obama honestly seems like a decent guy - he's obviously a good father and a good husband. He's been married only once and is still married. He's well-educated, friendly, and has a pretty good sense of humor. I can understand disagreeing with his policies, but the people trying to make him out like Stalin just boggle my mind.

It's the Republican demographics (white, Christian, ~35+, male or married female) versus everyone else.

Mike Chewbacca: And just like that, I've renamed the GOP the GOO.

AND HE STICKS THE LANDING! \O/

Jim_Callahan: To be fair, it's less that Obama is targeting the female vote and more that the GOP has been heavily lobbying females for Obama and he's given them a puzzled look, shrugged, and said "thanks, guys".

All the legwork of making the demographic a lock for the Dems has been done by the GOP.

//While Obama is going to demolish Romney in the debates, I rather suspect he'll do it politely, that's more his style than the "burn everything" tactic that people in the thread are rooting for. He's one of the few people in politics that's actually a relatively good guy without sacrificing competence.

Depends on how accurate the story a couple days ago that Obama loathes Romney personally, basically because Obama thinks he's a weasely flip flopping car salesman who doesn't actually stand for anything or have any actual opinions. Obama respects McCain and some of the right wing Republicans who have consistant world views, but he'll rip Romney a new one without a second thought, if that story was accurate and I think it was.

Lord Dimwit: Jim_Callahan: To be fair, it's less that Obama is targeting the female vote and more that the GOP has been heavily lobbying females for Obama and he's given them a puzzled look, shrugged, and said "thanks, guys".

All the legwork of making the demographic a lock for the Dems has been done by the GOP.

//While Obama is going to demolish Romney in the debates, I rather suspect he'll do it politely, that's more his style than the "burn everything" tactic that people in the thread are rooting for. He's one of the few people in politics that's actually a relatively good guy without sacrificing competence.

That's what I can't understand about the Right. Obama honestly seems like a decent guy - he's obviously a good father and a good husband. He's been married only once and is still married. He's well-educated, friendly, and has a pretty good sense of humor. I can understand disagreeing with his policies, but the people trying to make him out like Stalin just boggle my mind.

But did you see his skin color?!

Lord Dimwit: Jim_Callahan: To be fair, it's less that Obama is targeting the female vote and more that the GOP has been heavily lobbying females for Obama and he's given them a puzzled look, shrugged, and said "thanks, guys".

All the legwork of making the demographic a lock for the Dems has been done by the GOP.

//While Obama is going to demolish Romney in the debates, I rather suspect he'll do it politely, that's more his style than the "burn everything" tactic that people in the thread are rooting for. He's one of the few people in politics that's actually a relatively good guy without sacrificing competence.

That's what I can't understand about the Right. Obama honestly seems like a decent guy - he's obviously a good father and a good husband. He's been married only once and is still married. He's well-educated, friendly, and has a pretty good sense of humor. I can understand disagreeing with his policies, but the people trying to make him out like Stalin just boggle my mind.

The fact that he's black might be a factor.

Plus, the Republicans seem to go completely unhinged when there's a Democratic President, at least in post-Reagan times. Small sample of two to be sure, but they were accusing Clinton of murdering Vince Foster and a bunch of other derptastic crap equal to what they attack Obama for.

The Southern Strategy is exactly what is wrong with the GOP this is why they have strayed from true fiscal conservatism towards TeaTard and Bible Pounder platforms that even they know can't work.

Lord Dimwit: Honestly, I can't imagine why a woman would vote for Romney or any Republican candidate. Seriously.

Actually, that's not true. My sister's sister-in-law (which makes her what to me I don't know) is the kind of woman who puts on makeup and makes sure the house is spotless before her husband gets home. She even tells her daughter that we "serve dinner to daddy first because he pays for everything and is in charge" and "it's a woman's job to be an obedient wife." She seriosuly says these things. She's voting for Romney.

(That family is also uber-Christian and by "Christian" I mean "poor people are poor because they don't work hard and there sure are a lot of Mexicans living in Colorado now" type Christians.)

There's a blog by a woman who is uber Christian like that, her husband is some sort of Youtube preacher, and she wrote this scathing post about McCain back in 2008 and how he wasn't a real Christian Conservative like her and her husband.

She finished the post by saying that, as a true Christian woman, she didn't believe in women having the vote, and her husband voted for their household, but he was defiantly voting for some third party right winger for them instead.

what_now: Geotpf: Depends on how accurate the story a couple days ago that Obama loathes Romney personally, basically because Obama thinks he's a weasely flip flopping car salesman who doesn't actually stand for anything or have any actual opinions. Obama respects McCain and some of the right wing Republicans who have consistant world views, but he'll rip Romney a new one without a second thought, if that story was accurate and I think it was.

Not only is it probably true, even if it wasn't true, it would be a good strategy.

Obama let McCain off lightly because he was an old man, a war hero, and a long time senator.

Romney? Romney's got NOTHING. No one LIKES Mitt Romney. He doesn't seem like someone you'd really want to know.

I'm still looking forward to whomever Biden gets to toy with more though. Hopefully someone as inept as Palin was, if only for the image macros of the dumbfounded look.

Release the BIDEN!!

It helps that, for all his faults, Biden is one of the most honest public figures I've ever seen in action. Too bad he wasn't 20 years younger and able to take over after Obama was done.

relcec: who thinks minorities when welfare gets brought up? don't normal human beings think of the people that they know who are/were on welfare, which normally is your own race?

dog whistle. people you know who are on welfare deserve it. if they deserve it, its not really welfare. you sympathize with them. they're getting what's due.

people you don't know, or whom you resent, receive welfare with the fullest negative connotations packed in. they don't deserve it, and the aid they receive should be going to the people you do like.

see also: stormfronters railing against government assistance .. until a white family is affected, then it's 'at least they're white', and that includes assistance to chavs. it could be the grimiest, nastiest, most grifting family in the region, but if they've bred White Children, then all is forgiven. for the sake of the gene pool. (at least they're white.)

ghare: DarnoKonrad: Liberals aren't being taken for granted anymore, he needs them to turn out in big numbers if he's going to lose all the OLD white people MALES. So he's focusing on women and gay rights, and that's pretty damned spiffy IMHO.

ftfy

You big silly! Women aren't people to the Right Wing.

Rwa2play: El Morro: Amazing. Just amazing.
I hope Obama takes him to the woodshed over this during the debates. I mean, I really, REALLY hope he works Mitt over without a shred of mercy. I want him to make Mitt cry.

This; hope Obama goes for the Chinese water torture tactic on Romney during the debates. Make it slow, deliberate and maddening.

There's something in Romney's speech patterns and general demeanor when faced with an uncomfortable question that leads me to think that, at some point before the election, there's a very good chance that he's going to completely lose it. He'll be somewhere where he can't totally control the message, and his privileged, I-get-whatever-I-want personality is going to lead to some kind of fatal vocal outburst; maybe he'll drop the N-bomb, maybe he'll just come unhinged and rant for a while - something. And I really, really want to see Obama push him to that state in one of the debates. He'd do it smoothly, and with a lot of finesse, and then just stand there and watch the smoke start pouring from Romney's ears.

A man can dream...

carlb: Rwa2play: El Morro: Amazing. Just amazing.
I hope Obama takes him to the woodshed over this during the debates. I mean, I really, REALLY hope he works Mitt over without a shred of mercy. I want him to make Mitt cry.

This; hope Obama goes for the Chinese water torture tactic on Romney during the debates. Make it slow, deliberate and maddening.

There's something in Romney's speech patterns and general demeanor when faced with an uncomfortable question that leads me to think that, at some point before the election, there's a very good chance that he's going to completely lose it. He'll be somewhere where he can't totally control the message, and his privileged, I-get-whatever-I-want personality is going to lead to some kind of fatal vocal outburst; maybe he'll drop the N-bomb, maybe he'll just come unhinged and rant for a while - something. And I really, really want to see Obama push him to that state in one of the debates. He'd do it smoothly, and with a lot of finesse, and then just stand there and watch the smoke start pouring from Romney's ears.

A man can dream...

As much as I would love to see that, the corporate media - who have a vested interest in keeping this a close race - will stop Obama before he gets too close to that point.