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2012-08-09 09:47:37 AM
There's a Wii joke in there but I just woke up.
 
2012-08-09 10:16:08 AM

Mugato: There's a Wii joke in there but I just woke up.


They're comparing notes on how to best make their Wii fit?
 
2012-08-09 10:16:13 AM
so, what do they say when some teenager called them gay during a game of Halo?
 
2012-08-09 10:28:34 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Mugato: There's a Wii joke in there but I just woke up.

They're comparing notes on how to best make their Wii fit?


Ahhh there it is.

ManateeGag: so, what do they say when some teenager called them gay during a game of Halo?


Breeder.
 
2012-08-09 10:39:05 AM
So is teabagging in a FPS still an insult?
 
2012-08-09 12:41:29 PM

Mugato: So is teabagging in a FPS still an insult?


No, now it's a come on.
 
2012-08-09 12:42:06 PM
The cosplay is going to be fabolous!
 
2012-08-09 12:43:48 PM

ManateeGag: so, what do they say when some teenager called them gay during a game of Halo?


I just wonder if they're under the impression that somehow that 12 year old on the other side of the internet learned their sexual identity, hence all the slurs.

From TFA:
It's not uncommon for women, homosexual and minority gamers to find themselves assaulted with epithets during online gaming sessions or chased from the games they love by threatening, abusive and bigoted players.

Look, dumbasses, it isn't just the women, the homosexuals, and the minorities getting the slurs. It's EVERYBODY. We don't like it either, but as long as shiatty parents turn their poorly behaved kids loose online with zero supervision and other assholes roam the earth, we're stuck with it. Either mute everybody else, play only with known friends, or just learn to appreciate single player.
 
2012-08-09 12:46:53 PM
1UP does not mean you get an extra life and you probably don't want to know where the 'UP' is.
 
2012-08-09 12:50:03 PM
Subby, it's Gaymers
 
2012-08-09 12:53:37 PM
will it be catered by Chik-Fil-A?
 
2012-08-09 01:05:13 PM

Pinner: Subby, it's Gaymers


oh god
 
2012-08-09 01:09:02 PM

Theaetetus: orfag


... that's an odd filter. It deleted the space, but that's it.
 
2012-08-09 01:14:08 PM

Theaetetus: Theaetetus: orfag

... that's an odd filter. It deleted the space, but that's it.


Apparently, the comment has also been removed, too. ;)
 
2012-08-09 01:15:55 PM
PiffMan420 The cosplay is going to be fabolous!

50% FF, 30% BioWare, 20% Pokemon?
 
2012-08-09 01:17:03 PM

ManateeGag: so, what do they say when some teenager called them gay during a game of Halo?


Meh. I just ignore it. I learned to develop a pretty thick skin back in the original EQ days.
 
2012-08-09 01:18:23 PM

xanadian: Theaetetus: Theaetetus: orfag

... that's an odd filter. It deleted the space, but that's it.

Apparently, the comment has also been removed, too. ;)


Odd... I still see it. Here, I repost:
akula: Look, dumbasses, it isn't just the women, the homosexuals, and the minorities getting the slurs. It's EVERYBODY.

Yes, but the slurs don't involve calling someone a white heterosexual male. I don't believe I've ever been insulted with, "you filthy 1-percenter!" or "go die in a fire, you heterosexual married guy!" Even when men, heterosexuals, and white folks get insulted, the slurs still involve calling people pussy, biatch, nubian, or [f-word]. And trying to either sympathize, or - as you're doing - dismissing their complaints by saying, "it's okay, you homosexual person, they called me 'gay' too, so I was also insulted" not only misses the point, it also insults them again.

We don't like it either, but as long as shiatty parents turn their poorly behaved kids loose online with zero supervision and other assholes roam the earth, we're stuck with it. Either mute everybody else, play only with known friends, or just learn to appreciate single player.

Or, the alternate option, which I really like: publicly shame them.
 
2012-08-09 01:23:18 PM

xanadian: Theaetetus: Theaetetus: orfag

... that's an odd filter. It deleted the space, but that's it.

Apparently, the comment has also been removed, too. ;)


Did the repost show up?
 
2012-08-09 01:33:18 PM
Running a convention costs a shiatload more than $25,000.
 
2012-08-09 01:34:21 PM

Theaetetus: Yes, but the slurs don't involve calling someone a white heterosexual male. I don't believe I've ever been insulted with, "you filthy 1-percenter!" or "go die in a fire, you heterosexual married guy!" Even when men, heterosexuals, and white folks get insulted, the slurs still involve calling people pussy, biatch, nubian, or [f-word].


You either really don't pay attention (laudable, I guess) or you play solely on KKK servers or something. I get whiteness-based insults all the time.

Then, I guess I play in the US Southwest region for most games, so possibly there are simply more brownish types that connect to the same regional servers.

Oh, and you'd better not admit to being married, that'll get you an avalanche of invective from your or both teams depending on the comms setup.

Basically, stop white-knighting for the stupid, over-sensitive idiots, they still won't sleep with you.

//Also, people get called dicks all the time, why should the other gender's gonads be treated with more respect?
 
2012-08-09 01:38:32 PM
Bronies. bronies everywhere.
 
2012-08-09 01:41:30 PM

ManateeGag: so, what do they say when some teenager called them gay during a game of Halo?


They mute them just like everyone else.

I don't really see the point of this convention, aside from trying to show publishers that this demographic exists and amke up a good portion of the consumers.
 
2012-08-09 01:48:36 PM

Jim_Callahan: You either really don't pay attention (laudable, I guess) or you play solely on KKK servers or something. I get whiteness-based insults all the time.


Such as?

Basically, stop white-knighting for the stupid, over-sensitive idiots, they still won't sleep with you.

That you think people always lie and have selfish ulterior motives any time they help someone says more about you than me. You're a sad, pitiful and pitiable man. I hope you get some help, some day. Really, I do. And I'm not saying that because I want you to sleep with me. I honestly think you have a lot of personal troubles. It gets better, bro.
 
2012-08-09 01:56:31 PM
Gay, gay, gay, gay gay gay gaygaygaygaygay.
GAYGAYGAYGAYGAY.

So special.
 
2012-08-09 01:56:32 PM

akula: ManateeGag: so, what do they say when some teenager called them gay during a game of Halo?

I just wonder if they're under the impression that somehow that 12 year old on the other side of the internet learned their sexual identity, hence all the slurs.

From TFA:
It's not uncommon for women, homosexual and minority gamers to find themselves assaulted with epithets during online gaming sessions or chased from the games they love by threatening, abusive and bigoted players.

Look, dumbasses, it isn't just the women, the homosexuals, and the minorities getting the slurs. It's EVERYBODY. We don't like it either, but as long as shiatty parents turn their poorly behaved kids loose online with zero supervision and other assholes roam the earth, we're stuck with it. Either mute everybody else, play only with known friends, or just learn to appreciate single player.


So - give up is what you are saying? Fark that - I simply refuse to do that. Public shaming works rather well. There is was one server on WoW who managed to get all the 13 year boys to stop with the gay slurs. It took a few months but it eventually worked.
 
2012-08-09 02:00:24 PM

Lumbar Puncture: ManateeGag: so, what do they say when some teenager called them gay during a game of Halo?

They mute them just like everyone else.

I don't really see the point of this convention, aside from trying to show publishers that this demographic exists and amke up a good portion of the consumers.


I find it interesting to find other like minded gamers. Just as I attended 'queercon' (gay hackers) at DEF CON in Vegas this year and will be attending gaylaxicon (gay science fiction and fantasy con) in Minneapolis later this year. Its not for you - we get it - then don't go.
 
2012-08-09 02:13:35 PM
As a straight white dude who loves video games but hates hearing the shiat talking anyone who isn't a 15 year old basement dweller gets, I gladly donated to this KS. and would do so again. And if it was it in my area, I would go.
 
2012-08-09 02:13:58 PM

xanadian: FirstNationalBastard: Mugato: There's a Wii joke in there but I just woke up.

They're comparing notes on how to best make their Wii fit?

Ahhh there it is.

ManateeGag: so, what do they say when some teenager called them gay during a game of Halo?

Breeder.


Your mama
 
2012-08-09 02:15:50 PM

Myria: Running a convention costs a shiatload more than $25,000.


Not necessarily. Hotel spaces can be found for cheap if you're not picky and many cons start from scratch at $0, only relying on pre-registrations, a decent hotel contract and a lot of hope/luck. You'd be amazed what can be accomplished with a skilled con committee. These guys are doing VERY well with a starting pot of $37K.
 
2012-08-09 02:16:50 PM

Theaetetus: xanadian: Theaetetus: Theaetetus: orfag

... that's an odd filter. It deleted the space, but that's it.

Apparently, the comment has also been removed, too. ;)

Did the repost show up?


Yup. You must've activated the Boobies filter (or something like it) when using the f-word. Apparently, you are the only one that will see the post under those conditions.
 
2012-08-09 02:17:45 PM
How the hell does someone on the other end of a MMORPG know you're gay, unless you're running around saying "I'm gay?"

If you are doing that, you deserve ridicule. Who the hell cares who you're gonna sleep with after you're done slaying virtual demons or whatever the fark? Why do we need to know that?
 
2012-08-09 02:19:43 PM
Do they gay .wad files?
 
2012-08-09 02:21:37 PM
Do they have...I'm so gay.
 
2012-08-09 02:21:57 PM

xanadian: Yup. You must've activated the Boobies filter (or something like it) when using the f-word. Apparently, you are the only one that will see the post under those conditions.


Ha! Well, you can go hunter2 my hunter2ing hunter2!
 
2012-08-09 02:27:48 PM

Occam's Nailfile: How the hell does someone on the other end of a MMORPG know you're gay, unless you're running around saying "I'm gay?"

If you are doing that, you deserve ridicule. Who the hell cares who you're gonna sleep with after you're done slaying virtual demons or whatever the fark? Why do we need to know that?


This guy tries his best to explain why it's important to many people.
 
2012-08-09 02:29:08 PM

Occam's Nailfile: How the hell does someone on the other end of a MMORPG know you're gay, unless you're running around saying "I'm gay?"


1. Do they need to know? Insulting someone by calling them gay implies that being gay is undesirable... and that's pretty hateful.

2. Most harassment and discrimination that is allegedly based on sexual orientation is actually based on gender stereotypes. A woman's not properly feminine? Call her the d-word, even though you've never seen her muff diving. A man's not properly masculine? Call him the f-word, even though you've never watched him smoke pole.
In multiplayer video games, these may translate to a woman being better than the snot-nosed kid: see, for example, the majority of the screencaps on Fat, Ugly, or Slutty. Or it may translate to a man having a non-masculine-sounding voice on chat.

In other words, for multiple reasons, they don't need to know at all.
 
2012-08-09 02:31:57 PM
I've found having a couple mix CDs of female pop artists to blast into the headphones when the basement tards start talking is an effective way to deal with them. That, and then trying to hunt the moron down.

"YOU'RE A F****T!"

"You just signed up for Hannah Montana"
 
2012-08-09 02:34:37 PM

Theaetetus: Yes, but the slurs don't involve calling someone a white heterosexual male


Point, but I was more reacting to TFA that made it sound like this was only experienced by those of the various groups. When you carpet bomb insults like these little twerps, of course you're finally going to score some hits on folks who are of the various demographics you have chosen to insult. It just read like it was written by someone who had precious little idea how foul these little shiats are.

gingerjet: So - give up is what you are saying? Fark that - I simply refuse to do that. Public shaming works rather well. There is was one server on WoW who managed to get all the 13 year boys to stop with the gay slurs. It took a few months but it eventually worked.


Nice. But the thing is, draining the swamp takes a rather large effort- as you say, it took a few months just for ONE WoW server. For those without the time and effort to spend on that, it's more realistic to adjust one's activities. Avoiding the bad part of town is easier for the average person than it is to stamp out crime entirely.
 
2012-08-09 02:35:43 PM

Lumpmoose: This guy tries his best to explain why it's important to many people.


From your link:
After all, when so many readers seem confused about the point of a gay gamer convention, and seem viciously angry about it, they definitely need to be sat down and talked to.

akula: Look, dumbasses...

Jim_Callahan: ... stupid, over-sensitive idiots...

Occam's Nailfile: ... you deserve ridicule...


ಠ_ಠ
 
2012-08-09 02:40:34 PM
How to define yourself as "The Other" in one easy step.
 
2012-08-09 02:42:28 PM

Theaetetus: Jim_Callahan: You either really don't pay attention (laudable, I guess) or you play solely on KKK servers or something. I get whiteness-based insults all the time.

Such as?


Cracker and gringo and variations thereof, mostly. It's not really any more creative than any other form of namecalling you get on Live, for really _good_ insults you've got to get someone relatively clever mad at you, which isn't going to happen in 13-year-old-boy land. Pretty easy to shrug that weak shiat off, same as with all the similarly weak 'gay' shiat.

Seriously? You don't know any racist epithets for white people? Where are you from, Norway?
 
2012-08-09 02:42:38 PM
 
2012-08-09 02:43:55 PM
I played COD a while back with a guy named "Warning: I'm Gay" or something along those lines. The whole lobby quickly berated him then after completely destroyed them in the match they asked him if he was really gay and seemed apologetic. He said "No. I just like pissing people off." I found it hilarious.
 
2012-08-09 02:45:29 PM

Detinwolf: Pinner: Subby, it's Gaymers

oh god


The subreddit has been around for over a year and a half.
 
2012-08-09 02:46:00 PM

gingerjet: I find it interesting to find other like minded gamers.


As do I, whether they're gay or straight or male or female. More of my gay friends play video games than my straight friends, and our opinions on different games don't really seem to be influenced much by our secual preference.

Just as I attended 'queercon' (gay hackers) at DEF CON in Vegas this year and will be attending gaylaxicon (gay science fiction and fantasy con) in Minneapolis later this year. Its not for you - we get it - then don't go

And that's fine, I understand it's not for me. I just don't see what the point is of segregating a niche audience down even further might be. If there was an only straight male sci-fi convention it would be directed at me, and I wouldn't go because that sounds boring as hell. Not trying at all to say that the convention shouldn't happen, I just don't understand the point of it when I'd rather see greater diversity at any sci-fi convention, but not understanding the point of it, as a straight male, might be the point in and of itself.

As for not going, that's kind of brush off attitude. I'd probably enjoy going, I went to and supported my friends growing up going with them to GBLT proms in the Twin Cities, and those were way better than the straight proms my school held. That was like a decade ago, so I don't know if they still do that.
 
2012-08-09 02:46:02 PM

Lumpmoose: Occam's Nailfile: How the hell does someone on the other end of a MMORPG know you're gay, unless you're running around saying "I'm gay?"

If you are doing that, you deserve ridicule. Who the hell cares who you're gonna sleep with after you're done slaying virtual demons or whatever the fark? Why do we need to know that?

This guy tries his best to explain why it's important to many people.


Great article actually and a good read for anyone wondering why there are any form of events that focus on minorities.

Just reading this thread -- and Fark is actually a pretty open minded environment to be fair -- and you can easily see how society makes gays and lesbians feel like lesser people. We make them out to be something to ridicule and make light of at the best of times.
 
2012-08-09 02:47:40 PM

Jim_Callahan: Theaetetus: Jim_Callahan: You either really don't pay attention (laudable, I guess) or you play solely on KKK servers or something. I get whiteness-based insults all the time.

Such as?

Cracker and gringo and variations thereof, mostly. It's not really any more creative than any other form of namecalling you get on Live, for really _good_ insults you've got to get someone relatively clever mad at you, which isn't going to happen in 13-year-old-boy land. Pretty easy to shrug that weak shiat off, same as with all the similarly weak 'gay' shiat.


Of course it's easy for us to shrug off, we're in the majority, both socially and politically. It's the difference between insulting someone for being poor and insulting someone for being rich. Or insulting someone for being gay and insulting someone for being heterosexual. When you're in the majority, insulting you for being a member of the majority is no threat.
We're white, heterosexual, wealthy men. We have no freakin' clue what it's like to be harassed or discriminated against based on our status, so we really have no business telling other people that they should just "shrug it off".
 
2012-08-09 02:51:58 PM

Theaetetus: Jim_Callahan: Theaetetus: Jim_Callahan: You either really don't pay attention (laudable, I guess) or you play solely on KKK servers or something. I get whiteness-based insults all the time.

Such as?

Cracker and gringo and variations thereof, mostly. It's not really any more creative than any other form of namecalling you get on Live, for really _good_ insults you've got to get someone relatively clever mad at you, which isn't going to happen in 13-year-old-boy land. Pretty easy to shrug that weak shiat off, same as with all the similarly weak 'gay' shiat.

Of course it's easy for us to shrug off, we're in the majority, both socially and politically. It's the difference between insulting someone for being poor and insulting someone for being rich. Or insulting someone for being gay and insulting someone for being heterosexual. When you're in the majority, insulting you for being a member of the majority is no threat.
We're white, heterosexual, wealthy men. We have no freakin' clue what it's like to be harassed or discriminated against based on our status, so we really have no business telling other people that they should just "shrug it off".


I guess you stay clear of the ghetto.
 
2012-08-09 02:54:11 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I've found having a couple mix CDs of female pop artists to blast into the headphones when the basement tards start talking is an effective way to deal with them. That, and then trying to hunt the moron down.

"YOU'RE A F****T!"

"You just signed up for Hannah Montana"



BALLS
BALLS
BALLS
BALLS
BALLS OF STEEEELLLL
 
2012-08-09 03:01:41 PM

farkingismybusiness: Theaetetus: Jim_Callahan: Theaetetus: Jim_Callahan: You either really don't pay attention (laudable, I guess) or you play solely on KKK servers or something. I get whiteness-based insults all the time.

Such as?

Cracker and gringo and variations thereof, mostly. It's not really any more creative than any other form of namecalling you get on Live, for really _good_ insults you've got to get someone relatively clever mad at you, which isn't going to happen in 13-year-old-boy land. Pretty easy to shrug that weak shiat off, same as with all the similarly weak 'gay' shiat.

Of course it's easy for us to shrug off, we're in the majority, both socially and politically. It's the difference between insulting someone for being poor and insulting someone for being rich. Or insulting someone for being gay and insulting someone for being heterosexual. When you're in the majority, insulting you for being a member of the majority is no threat.
We're white, heterosexual, wealthy men. We have no freakin' clue what it's like to be harassed or discriminated against based on our status, so we really have no business telling other people that they should just "shrug it off".

I guess you stay clear of the ghetto.


You know, you should attend this convention and tell people that they should just let harassment roll off their backs because you've been called "white" before, so you feel their pain.

You should also film it.
 
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