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2012-08-09 12:52:03 PM

SkunkWerks: rikkards: He would literally vibrate when he saw a rabbit in the front yard through the window.

We've got lots of wild rabbits in our back yard. He never seemed interested in them. Consider a moment that the dog likely had at least a 4 year long racing career. So I'd have to guess he was just exceedingly well-trained. Knew when to follow the fuzzy bunny, and when not to.


My dog's just a big ol goofy thing, but I used to have hamsters and they'd all play together. He was very gentle, of course I sat right there the entire time they had interaction on the floor.

/'used to' means they dies of old age, both at 3, not of a mauling; haven't bothered to fill their cages again. Yet.
 
2012-08-09 12:52:58 PM
Carn:

"Very sorry about her nose and your dog, but that's really the point. Any dog could go crazy, and yes, the bigger it is, the more damage it could do. If my dog attacked me, I'd put her down and I'd cry my freaking eyes out. Do I ever expect that to happen? Hell no. Damn, did it get dusy in here? Should we just outlaw dogs completely?"

Never said anything about outlawing Pitbulls, or any other breed of dog. What I said was that it's a personal choice for me to not own a breed of dog that, should it suddenly go batshiat insane, could potentially be a killer. Like a Mastiff, Pitbull, Rottweiler, etc. And knowing that a large and powerful dog could break loose and potentially maul or kill someone, I don't personally feel like it would be responsible for me as a member of society, to have one. But that's just me.

As long as a potentially dangerous pet is only a danger to it's owner, I don't care if they keep a pack of lions. The problem is when the lions get out and kill a neighbor kid. And that's what any responsible pet owner has to think of when they have a large, powerful animal. What if? While someone's chihuahua might bite someone, it's highly unlikely they will kill someone. That's why you can't say a Pitbull or a Mastiff or a Rottweiler, etc. is just as harmless as a Chihuahua, Pomeranian, etc... It's only harmless as long as it decides to be. And while you can do everything in your power to be a responsible owner and treat your dog right, that doesn't guarantee your dog won't snap and hurt someone. Now, maybe your dog will be a big, affectionate, slobbery ball of love all of it's long adult life. And I hope it is. But there is always the possibility that it won't, and you have to be cognizant of that.

Hope that clears it up.

Peace,
Gib. :-)
 
2012-08-09 12:53:45 PM

LandOfChocolate: xanadian: Unless the article says anything other than, "because emotionally-stunted asshats wanted a 'big, mean' dog so they had 'rep,' and thus treated their pit bulls like shiat," I couldn't care less what the article says.

Yup. There is a guy in my neighborhood who walks around wearing a beater and sporting a short mohawk and a chinstrap.

He has two dogs, one a large male, unneutered cane corso named Shogun. The other, a 7-8 month old female pitty named Kitana.

My dogs "cousin" is a pit-mix and they get along great but people need to respect what the dog is capable of and what they were originally bred for.

Unless I know the dog, I don't let my dog near pits or other similar breeds.


They were originally bred for working, herding, an protecting families. We're you under the impression it was otherwise?
 
2012-08-09 12:54:06 PM
Pitbulls: The Glocks of the dog world.
Just like Glocks they are:
1. Made of ceramic
2. Undetectable by metal scanner or x-ray
3. Cost more than you make in a month.
 
2012-08-09 12:58:35 PM

CapeFearCadaver: SkunkWerks: rikkards: He would literally vibrate when he saw a rabbit in the front yard through the window.

We've got lots of wild rabbits in our back yard. He never seemed interested in them. Consider a moment that the dog likely had at least a 4 year long racing career. So I'd have to guess he was just exceedingly well-trained. Knew when to follow the fuzzy bunny, and when not to.

My dog's just a big ol goofy thing, but I used to have hamsters and they'd all play together. He was very gentle, of course I sat right there the entire time they had interaction on the floor.

/'used to' means they dies of old age, both at 3, not of a mauling; haven't bothered to fill their cages again. Yet.


Their careers are about 3 years. They are supposed to be retired at 4.5 at latest. Our first two we got at 20 months. They were bad racers (he didn't even race as he pulled a hind muscle right before season started). The new guy did a year and will be 3 in December.

Most likely yours is considered low-prey (really low-prey it sounds like). Most cat friendly are good indoors but all bets are off outside. That plus when they are well fed they are a lot less motivated to run. Essentially the dogs are cut off food for a bit before they race and only allowed to eat for the next day if they win.
 
2012-08-09 01:02:57 PM
Have a gnarly looking pit mix that is currently getting terrorized (aka loved) by my 2yo Jack, watching Wonder Pets in my living room.

Monsterous dog, licks my kid's face when Jack's trying to wrestle and everything.
 
2012-08-09 01:06:10 PM
Pit bulls were never referred to as "Americas's Nanny Dog" until the 1970s when breeders tried to soften their already vicious reputation.

Nanny Dog Myth exposed (Link includes photos of "Nanny Alligators")
 
2012-08-09 01:08:21 PM

GibbyTheMole: Carn:

"Very sorry about her nose and your dog, but that's really the point. Any dog could go crazy, and yes, the bigger it is, the more damage it could do. If my dog attacked me, I'd put her down and I'd cry my freaking eyes out. Do I ever expect that to happen? Hell no. Damn, did it get dusy in here? Should we just outlaw dogs completely?"

Never said anything about outlawing Pitbulls, or any other breed of dog. What I said was that it's a personal choice for me to not own a breed of dog that, should it suddenly go batshiat insane, could potentially be a killer. Like a Mastiff, Pitbull, Rottweiler, etc. And knowing that a large and powerful dog could break loose and potentially maul or kill someone, I don't personally feel like it would be responsible for me as a member of society, to have one. But that's just me.

As long as a potentially dangerous pet is only a danger to it's owner, I don't care if they keep a pack of lions. The problem is when the lions get out and kill a neighbor kid. And that's what any responsible pet owner has to think of when they have a large, powerful animal. What if? While someone's chihuahua might bite someone, it's highly unlikely they will kill someone. That's why you can't say a Pitbull or a Mastiff or a Rottweiler, etc. is just as harmless as a Chihuahua, Pomeranian, etc... It's only harmless as long as it decides to be. And while you can do everything in your power to be a responsible owner and treat your dog right, that doesn't guarantee your dog won't snap and hurt someone. Now, maybe your dog will be a big, affectionate, slobbery ball of love all of it's long adult life. And I hope it is. But there is always the possibility that it won't, and you have to be cognizant of that.

Hope that clears it up.

Peace,
Gib. :-)


I think I agree with all of that. If you own a larger dog, you definitely have more of a responsibility to make sure it's under control all the time. All owners should but there ya go.
 
2012-08-09 01:08:26 PM

Huck Chaser: FTFA: The dogs that are born into and raised in this environment are victims; they are beaten, electrocuted, chained, starved and even fed gunpowder to make them tough and mean. Those that don't fight back enough are killed or used as bait.


Are they trying to make some kind of dog bomb?
 
2012-08-09 01:18:59 PM

MythDragon: Pitbulls: The Glocks of the dog world.
Just like Glocks they are:
1. Made of ceramic
2. Undetectable by metal scanner or x-ray
3. Cost more than you make in a month.


What ceramic pit bulls may look like. Dude, you may need to retrain for a better job.

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2012-08-09 01:22:56 PM
I'd actually like to ban docking of tails and ears first before we talk about breed bans. It's a cruel and inhumane act done purely because someone thinks it looks nice.

That said, and I'd never do this, but I want to see what a lab looks like with docked ears and tail. Probably pretty scary.
 
2012-08-09 01:24:58 PM

Deucednuisance: Interesting response to an argument neither of us made, but you rock on, Rambo.


Let me explain it to you (I'm typing really slow for you): If I'm being charged by a pit bull, I'm not going to wait until it gets to me to see if it intends to lick me like crazy and play fetch, or chew parts of me into little bits. You can, but I won't.

Yes, I have been charged by pit bulls. And rottweilers. Because lots of "responsible" dog owners such as yourself dump them in the area where I live.

Deucednuisance: Wow, it seems to be a matter of course for you to ignore the direction of an argument, doesn't it?


My point is that I have yet to see a rottweiler on the loose pulling a wagon because its owner's horse was just too big. I see that sarcasm is lost on you. As are many things, I'm sure.

So, Mr. Individual Property Rights Defender, you been compensating the owners of all these dogs? Or are you just a common thief? ("Theft" = "Intentionally and permanently depriving a person of property")

A loose dog on my property is not something I need to compensate someone for. Most of them were dumped in the country anyway--get this--because they got too rough for their owners to deal with.

On noes, it's a big dog! I must destroy it before it eats my children and ravages my wimminfolk!

What a pants-pissing puss you are.


I have seen people get attacked by dogs where I live. I have seen livestock get killed by them (and not one of the dog owners ever offered to compensate me for their theft ["Theft" = "Intentionally and permanently depriving a person of property"]).

Look, I get it. You're some of the white trash I was talking about and you get offended when you're called out. That's understandable. But most white trash at least know enough to go away and be trash on their own. You can't seem to shut up about it. Maybe you're proud of it, there are a few that are like that.
 
Slu
2012-08-09 01:29:13 PM

SkunkWerks: Slu: Does the article say it is from pitbulls maiming and killing people? Because that is why they are the "boogey dog".

You could try, oh I dunno, reading the article?

Cause the answer's a lot more complicated than a simple 'yes' or 'no', and it's worth understanding why.


Nah. I don't think it is worth understanding why. I don't care that much.

As someone mentioned, there has been different boogey dogs in the past and there will be different ones in the future.
 
2012-08-09 01:33:52 PM

arethereanybeernamesleft: Deucednuisance: Interesting response to an argument neither of us made, but you rock on, Rambo.

Let me explain it to you (I'm typing really slow for you): If I'm being charged by a pit bull, I'm not going to wait until it gets to me to see if it intends to lick me like crazy and play fetch, or chew parts of me into little bits. You can, but I won't.

Yes, I have been charged by pit bulls. And rottweilers. Because lots of "responsible" dog owners such as yourself dump them in the area where I live.

Deucednuisance: Wow, it seems to be a matter of course for you to ignore the direction of an argument, doesn't it?

My point is that I have yet to see a rottweiler on the loose pulling a wagon because its owner's horse was just too big. I see that sarcasm is lost on you. As are many things, I'm sure.

So, Mr. Individual Property Rights Defender, you been compensating the owners of all these dogs? Or are you just a common thief? ("Theft" = "Intentionally and permanently depriving a person of property")

A loose dog on my property is not something I need to compensate someone for. Most of them were dumped in the country anyway--get this--because they got too rough for their owners to deal with.

On noes, it's a big dog! I must destroy it before it eats my children and ravages my wimminfolk!

What a pants-pissing puss you are.

I have seen people get attacked by dogs where I live. I have seen livestock get killed by them (and not one of the dog owners ever offered to compensate me for their theft ["Theft" = "Intentionally and permanently depriving a person of property"]).

Look, I get it. You're some of the white trash I was talking about and you get offended when you're called out. That's understandable. But most white trash at least know enough to go away and be trash on their own. You can't seem to shut up about it. Maybe you're proud of it, there are a few that are like that.


Well, here is one owner that would put down his dog as well as compensate you for any loss if he took down one of your animals.

Sorry a lot of people are assholes that don't understand how expensive livestock can be and how farmers make money. One of the most saddening things I heard come out of a child's mouth was "I hate farmers". I wanted to ask him where he thinks his food comes from but the moment passed before I could. I'm sure the answer would be something like "Walmart, you stupidhead".
 
2012-08-09 01:34:54 PM
My neighbor's pit bull is an incredibly sweet and loving dog. She loves playing with my neighbor's grandchildren and with my nieces and nephews. There isn't a mean bone in her body.

My spastic ass terrier/dachshund mix, on the other hand, gets so excited around new people that he is not safe with young kids.

He jumps up and scratches to the point where if you aren't big enough to control him he'll have you bleeding in no time.
 
2012-08-09 01:37:26 PM

meat0918: livestock can be and how farmers make money.


I'm a rancher.

Farmers drive Fords, and fark sheep.
 
2012-08-09 01:41:17 PM

Deucednuisance: Another moran who doesn't know anything about dog breeds. Do you even know what Rotties were developed for?

Pulling wagons in small mountainous areas where horses didn't work so well. Of course they're stocky and strong.


We used to have a neighbor who's Rott, Midnight, would play fetch with a 16-lb bowling ball. Sweet, even-keeled dog, but you always kept in the back of your mind where the exits were.

Granted, I'd do that around cows as well. Even as stupid and timid as they are, they are still heavy and strong.
 
2012-08-09 01:50:58 PM

arethereanybeernamesleft: meat0918: livestock can be and how farmers make money.

I'm a rancher.

Farmers drive Fords, and fark sheep.


My apologies.

Growing up in Michigan, even the beef cattle guys called themselves farmers. Rancher is Western thing and brings to mind huge, HUGE expanses of land with nothing on it but cattle, sage brush, and cowboys.
 
2012-08-09 01:54:09 PM

Portia: Incidentally, does anyone else have a pit that snores?


does anyone not?
 
2012-08-09 01:55:38 PM
In my neighborhood I am pretty familiar with all of the dogs. I know which owners walk their dogs every day and which owners play with them in the backyard. I know which houses/fences I shouldn't linger by because the dog goes into a barking fit (not my problem, but I don't like to encourage what the dog owner probably thinks is bad behavior).

So I notice when somebody is walking their NEW PUPPY. It is always walking the new puppy for the first month. Also, the poor lonely puppy is often tied to a tree in the yard. Then there are a few weeks of walking a AWFUL adolescent dog (and I'm not some kind of dog genius, my dog was AWFUL many days from about 6 months to 1.5 years and it was CONSTANT training to get him to be the calm dog on a flat collar who just looks at me and whines when he sees a deer or a squirrel) and then there is no more new puppy. Then they will get a new one as if the last one was a dud or something. Their dogs are always CHAMPION LINES and gonna be bred so obviously they don't need to be spayed, given their shots, or given heartworm pills.

Yeah I live next to a bad neighborhood. It is sick how some people will constantly get these dogs and get rid of them. And whenever someone says to me 'Your dog is awesome- I am getting a German Shepherd!' I really flinch and try to explain that my dog is sleeping or curled up calmly ignoring them because we played ball for an hour, did tricks for treats, and went on a 3 mile run. And that despite constant obedience classes as a puppy he was a hyper biting TERROR and a LEASH PULLER. In the first 1.5 years of his life pretty much all of my freetime was devoted to exercise/play/training.
 
2012-08-09 01:59:03 PM

meat0918: Rancher is Western thing and brings to mind huge, HUGE expanses of land with nothing on it but cattle, sage brush, and cowboys.


I'm not from the West (or the South, for that matter). Yet 'ranch' is perfectly acceptable where I live.

I don't know if just over 10,000 acres is a huge, HUGE expanse to you, but it's decent where I come from. There's no sage though, and replace 'cowboy' with 'undocumented Mexican' and you have a decent picture of our place.

In any event, I wasn't really offended, just wanted to sneak in a farmer insult.
 
2012-08-09 02:18:54 PM

Slu: Nah. I don't think it is worth understanding why. I don't care that much.


Congrats then. You're part of the problem.
 
2012-08-09 02:28:59 PM

HotWingConspiracy: They have a nasty habit of eating their owners children, and occasionally killing their owners as well.

And no, it's not just the ones raised by retards.

That said, they don't all do that. I don't trust the little farkers at all though. Safety first.


In my house, when I was growing up, we had an Akita/Lab mix. BEST DOG EVER. However, if you had walked in my front door, without being invited, you would be bleeding in short order. You would also have about 55lbs of pissed off Akita on you. Frankly, your chances of survival would be very low.

She was a great dog, but she would KILL you if you decided to enter her property without being invited by a family member. This unfortunately went for the meter reader lady too. That poor woman got chased out of my yard so many times.
 
2012-08-09 02:33:14 PM

Killahertz: pibble


WTF is a "pibble"? Is that another of those adorable cross-breeds people make to give them adorable names like "labradoodle" and "puggle"? I still say the labrador-poodle mix should be called a Poodledor. It wouldn't be quite so charming then, would it.

Nor would the cross of the French Poodle and Main Coon Hound:


The French Poon Hound.


Yeah, think on that one.
 
2012-08-09 02:44:57 PM
If the standard metric for banning a breed is going to be how powerful a dog is, then you're going to have to ban my pathetic lump of a St. Bernard. She is just shy of 200lbs, and is one of the strongest dogs I've ever had. Fortunately, she would rather you just pet her belly and then lay on your lap. My pit mix has never won a wrestling match against her.
 
2012-08-09 02:47:18 PM

JDAT: The Pit Bull has been used for fighting since the Roman Empire. That's not to say they can't make a great family pet, and many do, but since a dog's behavior is roughly 80% surroundings and training and 20% instinct.......you run a higher risk of an attack than say with a retriever.


4.bp.blogspot.com

yeah, pit bull type dogs didn't exist until the 19th century or so. thanks for trying though
 
2012-08-09 02:47:33 PM

AngryJailhouseFistfark: Killahertz: pibble

WTF is a "pibble"? Is that another of those adorable cross-breeds people make to give them adorable names like "labradoodle" and "puggle"? I still say the labrador-poodle mix should be called a Poodledor. It wouldn't be quite so charming then, would it.

Nor would the cross of the French Poodle and Main Coon Hound:


The French Poon Hound.


Yeah, think on that one.


"Pibble" = nonsense contraction for "Pit Bull". Like if you said "pit bull" quickly, it kinda comes out as "pibble". Heard it from some dog-lover friends. *shrug*
 
2012-08-09 02:50:44 PM
The pit bull is an inherently dangerous breed and should be eliminated. They cause a disproportionate number of deaths and injuries, While quality of breeding has some effect, it does not account for the frequency or severity of pit bull attacks. If you own one of these dangerous animals, please have it put down. It is only a matter of time before you are one of those people saying, "He never did anything like this before."
 
2012-08-09 02:54:01 PM

TheRealKlaatu: The pit bull is an inherently dangerous breed and should be eliminated. They cause a disproportionate number of deaths and injuries


i0.kym-cdn.com

(Pictured above: relevant dog-related image)
 
Slu
2012-08-09 02:55:36 PM

SkunkWerks: Slu: Nah. I don't think it is worth understanding why. I don't care that much.

Congrats then. You're part of the problem.


No I am not. I don't own a dog and I will never own a dog.
 
2012-08-09 02:58:07 PM

Slu: SkunkWerks: Slu: Nah. I don't think it is worth understanding why. I don't care that much.

Congrats then. You're part of the problem.

No I am not. I don't own a dog and I will never own a dog.


And?
 
2012-08-09 03:02:39 PM
FTFA: If you're not sure this is true, and you believe Pit Bulls are inherently dangerous, ask yourself how you've arrived at that decision. If you haven't ever seen a Pit Bull be dangerous or aggressive, it's very likely that the media has defined this perception for you.

Damn. I haven't had the help of the media to bias me. I've had to rely on firsthand evidence. Which example to use? Should I go with the one where my son was at a friend's house and the pit attacked him unprovoked? He has permanent facial scars from that. Or, should I go with the time a pit, who wasn't on a leash, attacked my blue heeler forcing me to kick (and likely break) the pit's jaw? These are just my firsthand stories. I have plenty of secondhand stories from friends' encounters.

/have also had some good experiences with pit bulls
 
2012-08-09 03:04:14 PM

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: FTFA: If you're not sure this is true, and you believe Pit Bulls are inherently dangerous, ask yourself how you've arrived at that decision. If you haven't ever seen a Pit Bull be dangerous or aggressive, it's very likely that the media has defined this perception for you.

Damn. I haven't had the help of the media to bias me. I've had to rely on firsthand evidence. Which example to use? Should I go with the one where my son was at a friend's house and the pit attacked him unprovoked? He has permanent facial scars from that. Or, should I go with the time a pit, who wasn't on a leash, attacked my blue heeler forcing me to kick (and likely break) the pit's jaw? These are just my firsthand stories. I have plenty of secondhand stories from friends' encounters.

/have also had some good experiences with pit bulls


How many attacks have you seen from other dog types/breeds?
 
2012-08-09 03:14:25 PM

Killahertz: AngryJailhouseFistfark: Killahertz: pibble

WTF is a "pibble"? Is that another of those adorable cross-breeds people make to give them adorable names like "labradoodle" and "puggle"? I still say the labrador-poodle mix should be called a Poodledor. It wouldn't be quite so charming then, would it.

Nor would the cross of the French Poodle and Main Coon Hound:


The French Poon Hound.


Yeah, think on that one.

"Pibble" = nonsense contraction for "Pit Bull". Like if you said "pit bull" quickly, it kinda comes out as "pibble". Heard it from some dog-lover friends. *shrug*


Very well then. You shall have reacharound.
 
2012-08-09 03:33:33 PM

arethereanybeernamesleft: Because lots of "responsible" dog owners such as yourself dump them in the area where I live.


Know what? Up yours. Every dog I've ever owned was a rescue, including my pit, who was abandoned on the side of the road at no more than 8 weeks old.

You said you shoot on sight, upthread. Now it's self-defense against charges. I have no truck with self-defense.

Bragging about shooting on sight makes you an asshole.

Period, end of story.

arethereanybeernamesleft: I have seen livestock get killed by them (and not one of the dog owners ever offered to compensate me for their theft ["Theft" = "Intentionally and permanently depriving a person of property"]).


Are you seriously claiming that the owners of said dogs intentionally set them on your livestock? Nice neighborhood you got there.

And you have the stones to call anyone "white trash"...

I'm done with you.
 
2012-08-09 03:36:02 PM

TheRealKlaatu: The pit bull is an inherently dangerous breed and should be eliminated. They cause a disproportionate number of deaths and injuries, While quality of breeding has some effect, it does not account for the frequency or severity of pit bull attacks. If you own one of these dangerous animals, please have it put down. It is only a matter of time before you are one of those people saying, "He never did anything like this before."


dude...come on
 
2012-08-09 03:38:34 PM

Deucednuisance: arethereanybeernamesleft: Because lots of "responsible" dog owners such as yourself dump them in the area where I live.

Know what? Up yours. Every dog I've ever owned was a rescue, including my pit, who was abandoned on the side of the road at no more than 8 weeks old.

You said you shoot on sight, upthread. Now it's self-defense against charges. I have no truck with self-defense.

Bragging about shooting on sight makes you an asshole.

Period, end of story.

arethereanybeernamesleft: I have seen livestock get killed by them (and not one of the dog owners ever offered to compensate me for their theft ["Theft" = "Intentionally and permanently depriving a person of property"]).

Are you seriously claiming that the owners of said dogs intentionally set them on your livestock? Nice neighborhood you got there.

And you have the stones to call anyone "white trash"...

I'm done with you.


Don't deal with the trolls man. It's someone's new alt, was only registered on 8/6/12.
 
2012-08-09 03:41:57 PM

Tradskinzd: Deucednuisance: arethereanybeernamesleft: Because lots of "responsible" dog owners such as yourself dump them in the area where I live.

Know what? Up yours. Every dog I've ever owned was a rescue, including my pit, who was abandoned on the side of the road at no more than 8 weeks old.

You said you shoot on sight, upthread. Now it's self-defense against charges. I have no truck with self-defense.

Bragging about shooting on sight makes you an asshole.

Period, end of story.

arethereanybeernamesleft: I have seen livestock get killed by them (and not one of the dog owners ever offered to compensate me for their theft ["Theft" = "Intentionally and permanently depriving a person of property"]).

Are you seriously claiming that the owners of said dogs intentionally set them on your livestock? Nice neighborhood you got there.

And you have the stones to call anyone "white trash"...

I'm done with you.

Don't deal with the trolls man. It's someone's new alt, was only registered on 8/6/12.


that and i think the "and then i shoot it" thing was just a joke
 
2012-08-09 03:51:20 PM

Tradskinzd: Don't deal with the trolls man. It's someone's new alt, was only registered on 8/6/12.


Pathman: that and i think the "and then i shoot it" thing was just a joke


Good advice, lousy joke.

I'll just say that the post count for the thread seems to have... dropped somewhat.
 
2012-08-09 04:09:42 PM

Deucednuisance: Bragging about shooting on sight makes you an asshole.


I wasn't bragging, I was just stating what I do. I may be an asshole, but I'm an asshole who has seen dog attacks on people and animals on my property. I'm not going to walk up to a strange, stray animal and ask what its intentions are. I shoot them.

You're the one with your panties in a wad here, big boy.

Deucednuisance: I'm done with you.


You promise?

Deucednuisance: I'll just say that the post count for the thread seems to have... dropped somewhat.


Because you "look at my cute rottweiler" goobers get boring after a while so everyone leaves. Except me. Yanking y'alls' chain is fun.

Pathman: that and i think the "and then i shoot it" thing was just a joke


No, it wasn't. I was parodying his "rotts were trained to haul wagons" absurdity with the Gravy Train commercial. That part was the joke. But I do shoot any stray dog on my property. Not just pitts, all of them. Who knows if they're rabid, have parasites that can transfer to my pets, are dangerous in general, or are dangerous because they're starving or protecting a litter somewhere. I'm not going to risk the safety of anyone or anything on my place by letting strays run around. They will come to the house in search of food, and they will (and have) attack anything or anyone trying to get to it.
 
2012-08-09 04:16:37 PM

Carn: Very sorry about her nose and your dog, but that's really the point. Any dog could go crazy, and yes, the bigger it is, the more damage it could do. If my dog attacked me, I'd put her down and I'd cry my freaking eyes out. Do I ever expect that to happen? Hell no. Damn, did it get dusty in here? Should we just outlaw dogs completely?


No, but so many of these threads evolve to where it's not about the topic of outlawing breeds anymore, there's an undercurrent of "how can you possibly be afraid or leery of certain breeds, don't you know they're all angels? My dog is awesome."

I'll admit, I'm not a dog person, I don't like dogs. That said, I don't find it so unreasonable that people who DO like most dogs will be leery of larger breeds (or larger MUSCULAR breeds, really I guess) just because of the POTENTIAL for damage should something happen.

That and the pack thing - sometimes the flip side of a dog being so tight with your family and your kid is, if the dog senses anyone being a threat to the family or kid (properly, or just by accident) they can attack the threat and it can be bad news. I suspect that's what the commenter upthread warning about "hopefully a playdate with the neighbor kid doesn't get too rough" might be about. In such cases, surely the dog means well, but it can be disaster for the "invader" if the dog in question just happens to be too strong.

I do agree the argument should really be about size/strength/capabilities though.
 
2012-08-09 04:30:10 PM
Aren't pit bulls the only dog breed you can train to disembowel other dogs when they show submission?
 
2012-08-09 04:33:28 PM

arethereanybeernamesleft: No, it wasn't. I was parodying his "rotts were trained to haul wagons" absurdity with the Gravy Train commercial. That part was the joke. But I do shoot any stray dog on my property. Not just pitts, all of them. Who knows if they're rabid, have parasites that can transfer to my pets, are dangerous in general, or are dangerous because they're starving or protecting a litter somewhere. I'm not going to risk the safety of anyone or anything on my place by letting strays run around. They will come to the house in search of food, and they will (and have) attack anything or anyone trying to get to it.


oh, ok - so you were trolling. my mistake. carry on
 
2012-08-09 04:49:04 PM

Huck Chaser: FTFA: The dogs that are born into and raised in this environment are victims; they are beaten, electrocuted, chained, starved and even fed gunpowder to make them tough and mean. Those that don't fight back enough are killed or used as bait.

So in other words, the breed (or group of breeds) has been bred for 30 years for violence and aggression, and now legitimately deserves the reputation that used to be unfair. It sucks for the dogs, but pretending that it isn't true doesn't do anybody, including the dogs, any favors.


Sadly enough, I think that's true.
 
2012-08-09 04:56:52 PM

spentmiles: I had to shoot three pit bulls this morning because they were digging in my front yard, so I'm not too happy to see this article. I treat pit bulls the same way I treat snakes and spiders - kill on site. I've read all the research about how every animal has a place in the ecosystem, but when I go out to get my paper, I don't want to have to fight through a crowd of venomous black snakes and rabid dogs. If they were household pets, as some people claim, then they should be inside the household, not in my yard. So get off of it.


You bought totalfark just to be a troll? That's kinda pathetic bro...
 
2012-08-09 04:57:36 PM

Fark In The Duck: RIP Pit Bulls

[www.poodleclubofamerica.org image 450x360]


you know that is funny...and also true. Standard poodles can be vicious animals, they just happen to be owned by by rich people who can afford a trainer, or have the time to train them themselves. I grew up with a 90lb standard poodle, and i would take a bet that he'd have been able to rip apart most pitbull breeds. Ours was mainly a hunting dog/retriever, but could really snap sometimes if provoked.
 
2012-08-09 05:01:21 PM

Pathman: oh, ok - so you were trolling. my mistake. carry on


Right. Because that's what a reference to an old commercial and statement of facts is: trolling.
 
2012-08-09 05:10:10 PM

arethereanybeernamesleft: mccallcl: Like all things American, the pit bull is a rural lifestyle accessory

Huh. I grew up on a ranch in a pretty rural area of Texas. We never had a pit bull, and don't know anyone who ever did. We shoot them on sight, in fact.

Our rural lifestyle accessories included a rifle, a shotgun, and a Chevy truck (Fords and Dodges are for sheep farmers) that could make it to town to get groceries.

Rural lifestyle accessories nowadays include satellite TV and internet.


So... on the one hand we have Pits, who are generally great dogs but dangerous on occasion. On the other hand, we have drunk, ignorant rednecks who are proud of shooting someone else's pet on sight. I'd say that, if I had to make a decision between you and the dogs, the Pit Bulls make for much better neighbors and much better mammals in general.
 
2012-08-09 05:29:31 PM
What a vicious animal may look like

i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-08-09 05:49:47 PM

dig420: On the other hand, we have drunk, ignorant rednecks who are proud of shooting someone else's pet on sight


Care to trade CVs?

I'm often drunk, but I'm far from a redneck and even further from ignorant.
 
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