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(The Daily Dolt)   Which politician has the most "Pants on Fire" lies according to Politifact? It's not the woman pictured here   (thedailydolt.com ) divider line
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2012-08-09 08:31:52 AM  
Shocked -- shocked!!!
 
2012-08-09 08:38:43 AM  

Politicandy: Shocked -- shocked!!!


Actually, I am kinda shocked that anyone has more lies than she does, although percentage-wise she's still near the top, so...
 
2012-08-09 08:42:46 AM  
Since Politifact is self-selecting, and uses questionable approaches to its "fact checking" sometimes, this means...?
 
2012-08-09 08:50:03 AM  

kronicfeld: Since Politifact is self-selecting, and uses questionable approaches to its "fact checking" sometimes, this means...?


"Self-selecting" - doesn't mean what you think it means.

Of course it's going to be "questionable" if they're disagreeing with what people are saying. If you believe Politifact is generally reliable, then this might mean something; if not, then not.
 
2012-08-09 08:55:44 AM  

LRA61380: kronicfeld: Since Politifact is self-selecting, and uses questionable approaches to its "fact checking" sometimes, this means...?

"Self-selecting" - doesn't mean what you think it means.

Of course it's going to be "questionable" if they're disagreeing with what people are saying. If you believe Politifact is generally reliable, then this might mean something; if not, then not.


Not.

Mitt Romney is still a huge liar though.
 
2012-08-09 09:03:19 AM  

Wendy's Chili: LRA61380: kronicfeld: Since Politifact is self-selecting, and uses questionable approaches to its "fact checking" sometimes, this means...?

"Self-selecting" - doesn't mean what you think it means.

Of course it's going to be "questionable" if they're disagreeing with what people are saying. If you believe Politifact is generally reliable, then this might mean something; if not, then not.

Not.

Mitt Romney is still a huge liar though.


What was the Costanza quote: "It's not a lie, if you believe it."
Mitt's problem is that he holds multiple contradictory beliefs, and only brings out the ones that suit him at any given moment.
 
2012-08-09 09:07:26 AM  

Bladel: Wendy's Chili: LRA61380: kronicfeld: Since Politifact is self-selecting, and uses questionable approaches to its "fact checking" sometimes, this means...?

"Self-selecting" - doesn't mean what you think it means.

Of course it's going to be "questionable" if they're disagreeing with what people are saying. If you believe Politifact is generally reliable, then this might mean something; if not, then not.

Not.

Mitt Romney is still a huge liar though.

What was the Costanza quote: "It's not a lie, if you believe it."
Mitt's problem is that he holds multiple contradictory beliefs, and only brings out the ones that suit him at any given moment.


You're thinking of a lie as if it were a negative thing. That's not Romney's thinking. A lie he commits is just a tool to get him what he wants. And Mitt won't be denied.
 
2012-08-09 09:08:04 AM  
Sarah Palin had five (9%).

Boy, she really does look tired. That's nothing!
 
2012-08-09 09:42:13 AM  

Diogenes: Sarah Palin had five (9%).

Boy, she really does look tired. That's nothing!


She's slipping. It's sad, really. She's like the Britney Spears of lying.
 
2012-08-09 11:14:54 AM  
so the guy that's campaigning for president and giving multiple interviews and speeches every single day has more recent lies than the woman who no-one gives a sh*t about anymore? you don't say!
 
2012-08-09 11:19:34 AM  
Two years ago, I would be using this as a counter-argument to every Facebook ConservaTroll who barfed up some lying bullsh*t infographic. But then Politifact said Obama's statement about Ryan's Medicare plan was the Lie of the Year and I stopped listening to them.
 
2012-08-09 11:20:25 AM  
The Liberal Dolt is not bias in any way, shape or form either.
 
2012-08-09 11:21:07 AM  
FullaShiat Romney?
statements. false. good.
 
2012-08-09 11:21:59 AM  
Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both lie. The difference is that Barack Obama's lies tend to be petty misdemeanors while Mitt Romney's lies tend to be class A felonies punishable by death.
 
2012-08-09 11:22:53 AM  

Politicandy: Diogenes: Sarah Palin had five (9%).

Boy, she really does look tired. That's nothing!

She's slipping. It's sad, really. She's like the Britney Spears of lying.


Oh god no! no cootch upskirt pics!
 
2012-08-09 11:26:08 AM  

Serious Black: Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both lie. The difference is that Barack Obama's lies tend to be petty misdemeanors while Mitt Romney's lies tend to be class A felonies punishable by death.


Yeah. Obama is more of a bend the truth (thus all the misleading and half-true items he gets). Romney just isn't suave enough to pull that off. He just flat out lies and doesn't give a shiat if you catch him at it. Sadly, neither do his supporters for the most part.
 
2012-08-09 11:26:31 AM  
That's because Politifact doesn't give out pants-on-head retarded.
 
2012-08-09 11:27:33 AM  

Bladel: What was the Costanza quote: "It's not a lie, if you believe it."


I think that was GWB. Or the legions of fanboys trying to explain why Iraq wasn't based on a lie.
 
2012-08-09 11:28:05 AM  
WHAR PANTS HANGING FROM A TELEPHONE WIRE WHAR?
 
2012-08-09 11:29:28 AM  
Romney must not realize he's not CEO anymore.
 
2012-08-09 11:34:47 AM  

Serious Black: Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both lie. The difference is that Barack Obama's lies tend to be petty misdemeanors while Mitt Romney's lies tend to be class A felonies punishable by death.


So vote Republican.
 
2012-08-09 11:36:53 AM  

karnal: The Liberal Dolt is not bias in any way, shape or form either.


I like how they went all liberal by presenting Politifact's stats.
 
2012-08-09 11:38:01 AM  
This is pretty much meaningless given Politifact's rather spotty record. Also, the numbers are dependent on the number of stories (even though a % is noted). Had each person listed been reviewed the same number of times, it may mean something. While I love to laugh at Mitt's lousy record, at the same time the analysis is mucked up towards whatever bias Politifact was feeling that day (they tend to waffle quite a bit).

I would like to see a PantsOnFire rating for Politifact reporting. Now that would be interesting.
 
2012-08-09 11:38:07 AM  
What pants on fire may look like:

img1.fantasticfiction.co.uk
 
2012-08-09 11:38:49 AM  

coeyagi: Politifact said Obama's statement about Ryan's Medicare plan was the Lie of the Year and I stopped listening to them.


This. Sorry subby and "daily dolt", whatever the hell that is -- nobody gives a shiat what Politifact rates anything anymore. They took every single bit of their credibility and flushed it all in a single, astonishing display of partisan hackery. I've never seen a site go from "decent job keeping them honest" to "your blog sucks" in the course of a single post, yet here we are.
 
2012-08-09 11:46:26 AM  

sabreWulf07: coeyagi: Politifact said Obama's statement about Ryan's Medicare plan was the Lie of the Year and I stopped listening to them.

This. Sorry subby and "daily dolt", whatever the hell that is -- nobody gives a shiat what Politifact rates anything anymore. They took every single bit of their credibility and flushed it all in a single, astonishing display of partisan hackery. I've never seen a site go from "decent job keeping them honest" to "your blog sucks" in the course of a single post, yet here we are.


But the Ryan plan wouldn't eliminate Medicare. Sure, it wouldn't be a national social insurance program, administered by the U.S. federal government\, that guarantees access to health insurance for Americans ages 65 and older and younger people with disabilities as well as people with end stage renal disease. It would be three Skee-Ball machines in Topeka that dispense tickets that you could use to buy Bibles. But they would be labeled 'Medicare'! In neon!
 
2012-08-09 11:47:33 AM  

LRA61380: Politicandy: Shocked -- shocked!!!

Actually, I am kinda shocked that anyone has more lies than she does, although percentage-wise she's still near the top, so...


You've got to give Bachmann credit. She's only been an elected official since around 2000, and she's already climbscaed into second place on the dishonesty records - second only to Rush Limbaugh who has been in politics for decades. That's like some kid straight out of the minors only being second in lifetime home runs to Barry Bonds.
 
2012-08-09 11:53:51 AM  

LRA61380: kronicfeld: Since Politifact is self-selecting, and uses questionable approaches to its "fact checking" sometimes, this means...?

"Self-selecting" - doesn't mean what you think it means.

Of course it's going to be "questionable" if they're disagreeing with what people are saying. If you believe Politifact is generally reliable, then this might mean something; if not, then not.


There's a difference between "disagreeing" and "lying", which it seems that Politifact has forgotten.
 
2012-08-09 11:55:48 AM  

friday13: LRA61380: kronicfeld: Since Politifact is self-selecting, and uses questionable approaches to its "fact checking" sometimes, this means...?

"Self-selecting" - doesn't mean what you think it means.

Of course it's going to be "questionable" if they're disagreeing with what people are saying. If you believe Politifact is generally reliable, then this might mean something; if not, then not.

There's a difference between "disagreeing" and "lying", which it seems that Politifact has forgotten.


I'm 99% sure that Politifact decides if something was a lie, then justifies their decision rather than the other way around.
 
2012-08-09 11:57:32 AM  

sprawl15: friday13: LRA61380: kronicfeld: Since Politifact is self-selecting, and uses questionable approaches to its "fact checking" sometimes, this means...?

"Self-selecting" - doesn't mean what you think it means.

Of course it's going to be "questionable" if they're disagreeing with what people are saying. If you believe Politifact is generally reliable, then this might mean something; if not, then not.

There's a difference between "disagreeing" and "lying", which it seems that Politifact has forgotten.

I'm 99% sure that Politifact decides if something was a lie, then justifies their decision rather than the other way around.


Given their recent BS, I'm not so sure.
 
2012-08-09 11:59:41 AM  
Mitt Romney had 14

Barack Obama had 6

Michele Bachmann had 12

Newt Gingrich had 10

Sarah Palin had five

Rush Limbaugh also had five

Harry Reid had two
 
2012-08-09 12:02:52 PM  

sprawl15: friday13: LRA61380: kronicfeld: Since Politifact is self-selecting, and uses questionable approaches to its "fact checking" sometimes, this means...?

"Self-selecting" - doesn't mean what you think it means.

Of course it's going to be "questionable" if they're disagreeing with what people are saying. If you believe Politifact is generally reliable, then this might mean something; if not, then not.

There's a difference between "disagreeing" and "lying", which it seems that Politifact has forgotten.

I'm 99% sure that Politifact decides if something was a lie, then justifies their decision rather than the other way around.


Then how would you explain giving Obama the lie of the year?
 
2012-08-09 12:09:18 PM  
I think the only important statistic is the amount of Republican shills & trolls posting into fark politics comments. This election cycle it has been infrequent and very halfhearted. This does not bode well for Romney.
 
2012-08-09 12:14:52 PM  

moralpanic: Then how would you explain giving Obama the lie of the year?


Because they decided they wanted to call it a lie, then came up with justification.
 
2012-08-09 12:20:13 PM  

sprawl15: moralpanic: Then how would you explain giving Obama the lie of the year?

Because they decided they wanted to call it a lie, then came up with justification.


Which is them disagreeing with Obama. NOT Obama lying. One step up the stupid ladder you go.
 
2012-08-09 12:24:13 PM  

moralpanic: sprawl15: friday13: LRA61380: kronicfeld: Since Politifact is self-selecting, and uses questionable approaches to its "fact checking" sometimes, this means...?

"Self-selecting" - doesn't mean what you think it means.

Of course it's going to be "questionable" if they're disagreeing with what people are saying. If you believe Politifact is generally reliable, then this might mean something; if not, then not.

There's a difference between "disagreeing" and "lying", which it seems that Politifact has forgotten.

I'm 99% sure that Politifact decides if something was a lie, then justifies their decision rather than the other way around.

Then how would you explain giving Obama the lie of the year?


They wanted to look "bipartisan", meaning that both sides lie in exactly equal amounts and severity. They forgot that reality should probably have a say in that.
 
2012-08-09 12:26:18 PM  

friday13: sprawl15: moralpanic: Then how would you explain giving Obama the lie of the year?

Because they decided they wanted to call it a lie, then came up with justification.

Which is them disagreeing with Obama. NOT Obama lying. One step up the stupid ladder you go.


What in the fark are you babbling about?

I'm agreeing with your post, you moron.
 
2012-08-09 12:32:16 PM  

coeyagi: Two years ago, I would be using this as a counter-argument to every Facebook ConservaTroll who barfed up some lying bullsh*t infographic. But then Politifact said Obama's statement about Ryan's Medicare plan was the Lie of the Year and I stopped listening to them.


My biggest problem with them is that the news sources use them as the start and end of the investigation process. I was listening to NPR the other day and they ran a story about Reid's claim about Romney's taxes. They pretty much just said it was a lie because Politifact called it a lie. I would have liked them to at least did a little deeper.
 
2012-08-09 12:42:13 PM  

friday13: sprawl15: moralpanic: Then how would you explain giving Obama the lie of the year?

Because they decided they wanted to call it a lie, then came up with justification.

Which is them disagreeing with Obama. NOT Obama lying. One step up the stupid ladder you go.


Honest question: Can you read?
 
2012-08-09 12:46:52 PM  

thurstonxhowell: friday13: sprawl15: moralpanic: Then how would you explain giving Obama the lie of the year?

Because they decided they wanted to call it a lie, then came up with justification.

Which is them disagreeing with Obama. NOT Obama lying. One step up the stupid ladder you go.

Honest question: Can you read?


Not well when dealing with 5 different things, no...
 
2012-08-09 01:07:07 PM  

kronicfeld: Since Politifact is self-selecting, and uses questionable approaches to its "fact checking" sometimes, this means...?


So if free will is involved in any way, an action cannot be trusted.
 
2012-08-09 01:29:18 PM  

friday13: sprawl15: moralpanic: Then how would you explain giving Obama the lie of the year?

Because they decided they wanted to call it a lie, then came up with justification.

Which is them disagreeing with Obama. NOT Obama lying. One step up the stupid ladder you go.


[wtfamireading.jpeg]
 
2012-08-09 01:35:09 PM  

Abner Doon: They wanted to look "bipartisan", meaning that both sides lie in exactly equal amounts and severity. They forgot that reality should probably have a say in that.


This.

I'm sick of this bullshat.
 
2012-08-09 03:48:42 PM  
Look, I believe Mitt is a liar and an idiot. When he does tell the truth, he takes it back. But Politfact hasn't been great with it's track record on Pants on Fire lately.

Mitt is still a lying idiot.
 
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