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(Talking Points Memo)   Romney left Limbaugh speechless with his defense of Romneycare. The man has subby's vote if he can pull that off   (2012.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 82
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2012-08-09 07:58:32 AM
See, this is what happens when Romney runs on his record.
 
2012-08-09 11:06:48 AM
And the crazy part is that it's a good defense. It represents a genuine political win as a government executive that helped people and it directly responds to the ad with substantive policy. It's just too bad that the current GOP doesn't care about substantive policy.
 
2012-08-09 11:46:50 AM
"Andrea Saul's appearance on Fox was a potential gold mine for Obama supporters," he said. "They can say, 'Romneycare was the basis for our health care.'"

um...that's kinda the truth though...
 
2012-08-09 11:51:53 AM

Weaver95: "Andrea Saul's appearance on Fox was a potential gold mine for Obama supporters," he said. "They can say, 'Romneycare was the basis for our health care.'"

um...that's kinda the truth though...


Well yeah, but you don't say that.
 
2012-08-09 12:27:06 PM

Weaver95: "Andrea Saul's appearance on Fox was a potential gold mine for Obama supporters," he said. "They can say, 'Romneycare was the basis for our health care.'"

um...that's kinda the truth though...


Which is why Republicans don't want it being said.
 
2012-08-09 12:28:57 PM

Kome: Weaver95: "Andrea Saul's appearance on Fox was a potential gold mine for Obama supporters," he said. "They can say, 'Romneycare was the basis for our health care.'"

um...that's kinda the truth though...

Which is why Republicans don't want it being said.


they can't take it back though. whats done is done.
 
2012-08-09 12:29:50 PM

Weaver95: "Andrea Saul's appearance on Fox was a potential gold mine for Obama supporters," he said. "They can say, 'Romneycare was the basis for our health care.'"

um...that's kinda the truth though...


I think the greater damage from Ms. Saul's appearance was the public acceptance of the argument that having health insurance can save your life.
 
2012-08-09 12:32:24 PM
Even Romney's staff is farking stupid. Which is almost worse than if Romney himself said it because a big part of being President is hiring/appointing people. He concentrated on the skill of firing people and there were no brain cells left to learn about hiring.
 
2012-08-09 12:32:55 PM
potential? goldmine

That is gold baby.
 
2012-08-09 12:33:34 PM

Weaver95: "Andrea Saul's appearance on Fox was a potential gold mine for Obama supporters," he said. "They can say, 'Romneycare was the basis for our health care.'"

um...that's kinda the truth though...


They can't handle the truth. Link
 
2012-08-09 12:33:43 PM

qorkfiend: Weaver95: "Andrea Saul's appearance on Fox was a potential gold mine for Obama supporters," he said. "They can say, 'Romneycare was the basis for our health care.'"

um...that's kinda the truth though...

I think the greater damage from Ms. Saul's appearance was the public acceptance of the argument that having universal health insurance can save your life.



FTFY.
 
2012-08-09 12:35:06 PM

Weaver95: Kome: Weaver95: "Andrea Saul's appearance on Fox was a potential gold mine for Obama supporters," he said. "They can say, 'Romneycare was the basis for our health care.'"

um...that's kinda the truth though...

Which is why Republicans don't want it being said.

they can't take it back though. whats done is done.


Isn't there something about not using quotes
encrypted-tbn3.google.com
 
2012-08-09 12:35:36 PM

Weaver95: Kome: Weaver95: "Andrea Saul's appearance on Fox was a potential gold mine for Obama supporters," he said. "They can say, 'Romneycare was the basis for our health care.'"

um...that's kinda the truth though...

Which is why Republicans don't want it being said.

they can't take it back though. whats done is done.


I'm sure they'll do something retroactively.
 
2012-08-09 12:36:13 PM

Weaver95: Kome: Weaver95: "Andrea Saul's appearance on Fox was a potential gold mine for Obama supporters," he said. "They can say, 'Romneycare was the basis for our health care.'"

um...that's kinda the truth though...

Which is why Republicans don't want it being said.

they can't take it back though. whats done is done.


Take it to the spin doctors. They'll fix it up.

And no, not the Spin Doctors. What a shiatty group.
 
2012-08-09 12:37:09 PM

Weaver95: Kome: Weaver95: "Andrea Saul's appearance on Fox was a potential gold mine for Obama supporters," he said. "They can say, 'Romneycare was the basis for our health care.'"

um...that's kinda the truth though...

Which is why Republicans don't want it being said.

they can't take it back though. whats done is done.


They can always try "any ad which quotes me is a falsehood"
 
2012-08-09 12:37:12 PM
Vote for Obama to keep Limbaugh's ratings high when he enters contract negotiations in 2015
 
2012-08-09 12:37:34 PM

xanadian: Weaver95: Kome: Weaver95: "Andrea Saul's appearance on Fox was a potential gold mine for Obama supporters," he said. "They can say, 'Romneycare was the basis for our health care.'"

um...that's kinda the truth though...

Which is why Republicans don't want it being said.

they can't take it back though. whats done is done.

Take it to the spin doctors. They'll fix it up.

And no, not the Spin Doctors. What a shiatty group.


Little Miss Saul can't be wrong.
 
2012-08-09 12:38:00 PM
That is bad PR, if you are a republican and you get gotcha-ed on Fox News you should be fired. That is what Romney should do immediately and claim she was not speaking for him there. Although then you get the whole "he likes firing people" stuff...
 
2012-08-09 12:38:42 PM
Any time that race-baiting, woman-hating, self-serving, fat tub of lard eats his own words, it brightens my day
 
2012-08-09 12:39:13 PM
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If she lived in Mass she would have insurance and be alive but I am elected POTUS I will kill her ass again!
 
2012-08-09 12:39:48 PM
Obama barely has to attack Romney at all. He seems perfectly intent on self destructing without any outside interference
 
2012-08-09 12:40:56 PM
Let's be honest here...

Romney could be hiding death hookers in his taxes. He could shoot Rafalca on live TV and turn her into glue. He could run the goddamn dog with one of his wife's Cadillacs. He could get caught snorting cocaine off a bible and wiping his ass with Ole' Glory, and it's not going to matter for shiat. The derp brigade is still going to vote for him because he's "not Obama".

But if Rush turns on him, he's pretty much farked.
 
2012-08-09 12:42:07 PM

Heresiarch: I think the greater damage from Ms. Saul's appearance was the public acceptance of the argument that having universal health insurance can save your life.


FTFY.


He's talking about the question of causation. Universal healthcare or Romneycare, doesn't matter; ready access to heath care is causally related one's quality of life. Her statement is an implicit acceptance of such.
 
2012-08-09 12:43:32 PM
I really think this might be the point where conservatives start to lose hope that Romney - who's lead an extremely moderate political career - will hold true to his right-wing pandering rhetoric.
 
2012-08-09 12:45:30 PM

CrackpipeCardozo: Heresiarch: I think the greater damage from Ms. Saul's appearance was the public acceptance of the argument that having universal health insurance can save your life.


FTFY.

He's talking about the question of causation. Universal healthcare or Romneycare, doesn't matter; ready access to heath care is causally related one's quality of life. Her statement is an implicit acceptance of such.


Yeap. The fact that she referenced universal coverage in general, and Romneycare specifically, is just gravy. Politically important, to be sure, but unrelated to the core question.
 
2012-08-09 12:45:34 PM

Zerochance: He could run the goddamn dog with one of his wife's Cadillacs.


i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2012-08-09 12:50:58 PM

Zerochance: Romney could be hiding death hookers in his taxes. He could shoot Rafalca on live TV and turn her into glue. He could run the goddamn dog with one of his wife's Cadillacs. He could get caught snorting cocaine off a bible and wiping his ass with Ole' Glory, and it's not going to matter for shiat. The derp brigade is still going to vote for him because he's "not Obama".


I've said this before. After all the stories that keep coming out about his idiocy, someone is still voting for him, there isn't a whole lot he could do to make them change their mind. Even if Rush turns on him. It's not like Rush is going to endorse someone else.
 
2012-08-09 12:51:00 PM

CrackpipeCardozo: Heresiarch: I think the greater damage from Ms. Saul's appearance was the public acceptance of the argument that having universal health insurance can save your life.


FTFY.

He's talking about the question of causation. Universal healthcare or Romneycare, doesn't matter; ready access to heath care is causally related one's quality of life. Her statement is an implicit acceptance of such.


The original quote (taken from the article):

"They're out there saying that your guy killed this woman! and your answer is well she'd of had health insurance if she lived in Massachusetts." (emphasis mine)

The basis of the ad itself is that the guy didn't have health insurance (due to job loss). But this aide is saying that if he'd been in Massachusetts, he'd have had state-involved insurance that wasn't tied to his job. She's addressing "Romneycare" as though it was just a Mass-specific version of "Obamacare" (which it is). It's an implicit endorsement - having government-involved healthcare might have saved this woman's life.
 
2012-08-09 12:53:23 PM
Back on 8/6 the Wall Street Journal published this editorial slamming Romneycare. The right-wing echo chamber immediatly picked this up. Libtard ol' me even got a breathless email from a wingnut I know.

The WSJ, as you know, is a Newscorp property, as is Fox News. I think Romney's people rightly interprited the WSJ piece as a sign that Murdoch and his minions have given up on the idea that Rmoney has any chance of winning the presidency, and have now turned their attention to defeting Obamacare at any cost, even if that means throwing Romneycare, and Romney himself, under the bus.

So Romney's peeps thought about this all day Tuesday, probably made a few phone calls, and decided to deliver a huge "fark You" to all their fair-weather friends. And I salute their trollish style.
 
2012-08-09 12:54:39 PM
Pretty soon the spin will be something like saying "Man I really hurt his fists with my face." I can't see how the Obama campaign saw something this great coming from that ad. It's such perfect synchronicity it almost has to have been set up.
 
2012-08-09 12:58:08 PM

cram_hole: Pretty soon the spin will be something like saying "Man I really hurt his fists with my face." I can't see how the Obama campaign saw something this great coming from that ad. It's such perfect synchronicity it almost has to have been set up.


Romney at a debate: "Obamacare is an unconstitutional power grab that will death panel your grandmother!"
Obama: "Maybe, but it can also cure cancer."
 
2012-08-09 12:58:33 PM
 
2012-08-09 12:58:48 PM

ArgusRun: xanadian: Weaver95: Kome: Weaver95: "Andrea Saul's appearance on Fox was a potential gold mine for Obama supporters," he said. "They can say, 'Romneycare was the basis for our health care.'"

um...that's kinda the truth though...

Which is why Republicans don't want it being said.

they can't take it back though. whats done is done.

Take it to the spin doctors. They'll fix it up.

And no, not the Spin Doctors. What a shiatty group.

Little Miss Saul can't be wrong.


Goddammit.
Now I hear that, too.
 
2012-08-09 12:58:49 PM

Heresiarch: The basis of the ad itself is that the guy didn't have health insurance (due to job loss). But this aide is saying that if he'd been in Massachusetts, he'd have had state-involved insurance that wasn't tied to his job. She's addressing "Romneycare" as though it was just a Mass-specific version of "Obamacare" (which it is). It's an implicit endorsement - having government-involved healthcare might have saved this woman's life.


Yeah, I get that. Her statement makes a number of affirmations, both explicit and implicit. The Right has made a variety of assertions concerning the topic of healthcare reform, and her statement directly contradicts many of those very same assertions.
 
2012-08-09 01:02:15 PM
Not a lot of Romney apologists around today.
 
2012-08-09 01:05:45 PM

Mugato: Not a lot of Romney apologists around today.


Of course. Their main source of talking points is turning on him, so they're all sort of lost.
 
2012-08-09 01:06:05 PM
It's almost like Republicans never suddenly gave a crap about health care and socialism at all. It's like it was all a pretend issue standing in for something else, perhaps some view of Barack Hussein Obama that they weren't supposed to talk about.
 
2012-08-09 01:08:14 PM
*GROAN*
 
2012-08-09 01:09:24 PM

pootsie: Coulter got spitting mad. Check out Hannity's exchange with Mr. Man-hands:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ann-coulter -explodes-at-romney-spokeswoman- for-response-to-priorities-usa-ad-she- needs-to-be-fired/


Oh, I agree, that woman needs to be shown the door. I would if I were R'Money.

Personally, I say....carry on, good ma'am...
 
2012-08-09 01:09:54 PM

Mugato: Not a lot of Romney apologists around today.


As T-paw pointed out in the primary; ObamneyCare is going to be a hard sell for Mittens
 
2012-08-09 01:11:46 PM

pootsie: Coulter got spitting mad. Check out Hannity's exchange with Mr. Man-hands:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ann-coulter -explodes-at-romney-spokeswoman- for-response-to-priorities-usa-ad-she- needs-to-be-fired/


LMAO on that. So damn good.

/cry moar Ann
 
2012-08-09 01:12:49 PM
I'd rather he be left speechless with a stroke.

DrRatchet: Back on 8/6 the Wall Street Journal published this editorial slamming Romneycare. The right-wing echo chamber immediatly picked this up. Libtard ol' me even got a breathless email from a wingnut I know.

The WSJ, as you know, is a Newscorp property, as is Fox News. I think Romney's people rightly interprited the WSJ piece as a sign that Murdoch and his minions have given up on the idea that Rmoney has any chance of winning the presidency, and have now turned their attention to defeting Obamacare at any cost, even if that means throwing Romneycare, and Romney himself, under the bus.

So Romney's peeps thought about this all day Tuesday, probably made a few phone calls, and decided to deliver a huge "fark You" to all their fair-weather friends. And I salute their trollish style.


Good, good. Split the party.
 
2012-08-09 01:13:31 PM
ITS A MITTTASTROPHE
 
2012-08-09 01:13:38 PM
Anyone else notice Rush attributed the PAC add to Obama? While the add itself is tacky it was not done with Obama's approval and Limbaugh should be called out on that lie.
 
2012-08-09 01:13:51 PM

Mugato: Not a lot of Romney apologists around today.


I think they might be taking a break...pacing themselves a bit...maybe organizing shifts for what's looking like a long haul towards election day. with all the mistakes and lies Romney is floating around right now, they'll burn out if they hit up each and every thread.
 
2012-08-09 01:16:26 PM

Heresiarch: she'd of


flames are shooting out of my eyes right now
 
2012-08-09 01:17:24 PM
When even your best spin doctors throw up their hands and say GFY, you can pretty much put a fork in this election. 538 already has Obama at 72.5 percent before the right-wing blogosphere meltdown.
 
2012-08-09 01:19:09 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: When even your best spin doctors throw up their hands and say GFY, you can pretty much put a fork in this election. 538 already has Obama at 72.5 percent before the right-wing blogosphere meltdown.


Oh, but it's still 'nearly a tie' according to so many media pundits. Honestly, I can't tell who that helps more, Obama or the GOP.
 
2012-08-09 01:22:53 PM

Infernalist: YoungSwedishBlonde: When even your best spin doctors throw up their hands and say GFY, you can pretty much put a fork in this election. 538 already has Obama at 72.5 percent before the right-wing blogosphere meltdown.

Oh, but it's still 'nearly a tie' according to so many media pundits. Honestly, I can't tell who that helps more, Obama or the GOP.


You know at least that Rush, Hannity, Beck etc. want an Obama victory. Ratings will never be higher than having Obama win a 2nd term.
 
2012-08-09 01:22:53 PM

xanadian: Weaver95: Kome: Weaver95: "Andrea Saul's appearance on Fox was a potential gold mine for Obama supporters," he said. "They can say, 'Romneycare was the basis for our health care.'"

um...that's kinda the truth though...

Which is why Republicans don't want it being said.

they can't take it back though. whats done is done.

Take it to the spin doctors. They'll fix it up.

And no, not the Spin Doctors. What a shiatty group.


You take that back! "2 Princes" was clearly the apex of all musical endeavor ever achieved by mankind.

/Not really
//Had to Google the titlee
 
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