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(WBUR Boston)   According to David Barton, everything you know about American history is wrong. Especially the whole "separation of church and state" stuff. Guess which political party he consults with?   (wbur.org ) divider line
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2012-08-09 12:48:14 PM  
4 votes:

impaler: vernonFL: TFA:

We looked up every citation Barton said was from the Bible, but not one of them checked out.

You look at Article 2, the quote on the president has to be a native born? That is Deuteronomy 17:15, verbatim.

Deuteronomy 17:15
New International Version (NIV)
be sure to appoint over you a king the Lord your God chooses. He must be from among your fellow Israelites. Do not place a foreigner over you, one who is not an Israelite.

Wait, the constitution says we have to have an Israeli king?

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We also don't "appoint" a "king." We buy Presidents.
2012-08-09 01:45:57 PM  
2 votes:
David Barton is a traitor to this country and to its Constitution.

I say keelhaul the son of a b*tch.

The USS Missouri won't mind a nice energetic belly tickle.
2012-08-09 01:42:45 PM  
2 votes:
"According to David Barton"

I think I see your problem.
2012-08-09 01:32:26 PM  
2 votes:
Silly atheists. The devil has obviously modified these documents to prevent us from becoming a strong Christian nation.
2012-08-09 12:09:51 PM  
2 votes:

vernonFL: TFA:

We looked up every citation Barton said was from the Bible, but not one of them checked out.


You look at Article 2, the quote on the president has to be a native born? That is Deuteronomy 17:15, verbatim.

Deuteronomy 17:15
New International Version (NIV)
be sure to appoint over you a king the Lord your God chooses. He must be from among your fellow Israelites. Do not place a foreigner over you, one who is not an Israelite.

Wait, the constitution says we have to have an Israeli king?

2.bp.blogspot.com
2012-08-10 04:56:35 AM  
1 vote:

Legio Minervia: You cannot dismiss that significance even if it doesn't agree with your viewpoint


Sure he can. He's an Authoritarian.
2012-08-10 03:30:39 AM  
1 vote:

Kurmudgeon: One last thing, the Treaty of Tripoli ended the war between the US and Tripoli.
That was it's purpose and only function.


So? The founders still clearly stated that Christianity was the foundation of of government, in any sense.

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2012-08-10 02:37:17 AM  
1 vote:
Ahh... his point of view... I can almost see it from here...

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2012-08-09 04:32:51 PM  
1 vote:

imashark: BSABSVR: Warren

Well, it appears that Barton's publisher has pulled the book from publication, due to "historical details included in the book that were not adequately supported". In other words, due to fabrications.

Link.


Update: Thomas Nelson Publishers have announced they have come to an agreement with David Barton over his book The Jefferson Lies. With removal of the second word in the title, the book will continue to be published.
2012-08-09 02:22:22 PM  
1 vote:

Dr Dreidel: If you've never heard of David Barton, you must be new here. You'll remember him from the last "most influential evangelical you've never heard of" piece posted here, or the one before that. Or any of the Texas textbook derp.

What amazes me is how brazenly they can lie, and either ignore how wrong they are (comparing two sentences shouldn't be hard) or defend the lie as coming from a place of wanting everyone to find Jesus - from the same people that want "Thou shalt not bear false witness" engraved in stone in every courthouse in the land.

Barton seems to think Deuteronomy wants us to submit to Christian "kings" (rulers). I counter that since Deuteronomy was written by Jews for Jews, we need a Jewish "king". There's also the sticky wicket of a verse from Ezra (7:26) that exhorts people to follow the laws of their host countries. And, for the New Testament types, the "render unto Caesar" thing.

How is this different from taqqiyah? (Where Muslims can lie to non-Muslims for the purposes of obscuring details of the faith - I think that's what it's called, though I may be confusing terms.) How are these yahoos any different from the Taliban again?


On average, they're lighter.
2012-08-09 02:15:13 PM  
1 vote:

BojanglesPaladin: He's clearly unqualified AS A HISTORIAN, and he's an evangelist. While he's entitled to his opinions and entitled to espouse whatever he likes, and write whatever he likes, why would it be treated any differently than the Latest Dan Brown garbage?


Because Dan Brown's work appears in the "fiction" section, whereas Barton's should appear in the "dumpster"?
2012-08-09 02:05:01 PM  
1 vote:

Charlie Chingas: I'd like the 'prosecute' the hot christian women.


'Prosecute'? On what charges, man?

/something something 'legal briefs'
//something something 'bang the gavel'
2012-08-09 01:52:03 PM  
1 vote:

brap: When I think David Barton, I think of the gym where all the insanely buff homosexuals go.


....

Well, I wasn't thinking that, BUT I AM NOW!!!
2012-08-09 01:47:41 PM  
1 vote:
encrypted-tbn3.google.com

Verbatim

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Not verbatim
2012-08-09 01:39:03 PM  
1 vote:
Seeing that The Treaty of Tripoli was written between the United States and a country that no longer exists, Ottoman Tripolitania, the Treaty of Tripoli has been null and void since 1911 if not sooner.

Also, treaties do not rule The Constitution null and avoid either.
The Treaty of Tripoli is just a vague historic artifact with no meaning or power in today's US government.

Some more info if you'd like.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Tripolitania
2012-08-09 01:35:40 PM  
1 vote:
So how long before this guy is found at a truck stop wearing a wig?
2012-08-09 01:34:57 PM  
1 vote:

xanadian: We also don't "appoint" a "king." We buy Presidents.


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Dennis, there's some lovely filth down here...
2012-08-09 01:34:20 PM  
1 vote:
So.....this means that EVERYONE must go to CHRISTIAN church and worship Republican Jesus or be shot on sight.
2012-08-09 01:33:30 PM  
1 vote:
Awesome, now where was that loon who keeps insisting that both sides are the same?
2012-08-09 01:31:14 PM  
1 vote:
Black is white. I've been saying it for years. where are MY bestsellers and speaking engagements (and non-fiction book groupie sex).
2012-08-09 11:06:22 AM  
1 vote:
Article 11. 'nuff said.

Article 11 reads:

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],-and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

book it/done.
 
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