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(YouTube)   Video of the massive New Zealand police raid on Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom finally surfaces. Fark: he left his gate open and didn't lock the door to his panic room   (youtube.com) divider line 80
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2012-08-09 09:32:30 PM
It seems like a ridiculous waste of manpower/resources.
 
rka
2012-08-09 09:49:45 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: rka: Percentage-wise how many Americans versus New Zealanders were there?

I don't think it said how many there were, but the one lawyer did press one of the NZ thugs into admitting that the FBI was present during both the planning and execution phases. It doesn't sound like the U.S. actually executed with their people, but it seemed like they were either onsite observing it or watching the cameras.


Gotcha. So more than one, but less than a full fledged US Marine brigade.

Just trying to figure out what it takes for NZ to sell out its own sovereignty and abandon its people to a foreign power.
 
2012-08-09 09:50:06 PM

Theaetetus: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Good grief, all that just for someone accused of copyright violation? If I didn't know better, I'd think they're taking down a major drug cartel, the head of the Mafia, etc.

Considering that the guy accused of copyright violation also has "security forces" including armed guards patrolling the grounds, a bedside alert button, and a panic room, I think there's more to the story here. Remember, Al Capone was accused of forgetting to pay his taxes.


but your a f*cking idiot.
 
2012-08-09 09:50:44 PM
aaaaaaaagggghhhhhh
 
2012-08-09 10:28:18 PM

RoxtarRyan: Vegan Meat Popsicle: I just want to go ahead and say this out loud to see if it sinks in any better.... the U.S. couldn't be bothered to do any more to the bankers who caused trillions of dollars of economic damage to the world economy than haul them into Congress and shout at them for a few hours.... but we have no problem helping another government lead a paramilitary assault on a guy's house for running a website that cost one industry a few million dollars.

The world is going to suck for our children's children. Because honestly, I see things getting far worse. I love technology, but I also know it will be the cause of our enslavement by the financial elite in the not-too-far future.

It has started already, with the most obvious example being Apple strong-arming the police to conduct SWAT-style raids on someone who purchased a prototype product. Before, grandma loses her house because the RIAA demands she pays them hundreds of thousands of dollars because her wireless router didn't have a password. America is getting to the point where we are following in Britain's footsteps and installing CCTV cameras and redlight cameras everywhere. Shiat is already crazy, and due to technology being such a penetrating force in our lives to the point where most people can't live without their smartphone, tablet, cellular-connected car and social media. It wouldn't take much for people to knowingly hand over complete access to their personal private information to the government or a 3rd party company for an app that tells them the last time they took a shiat, and with a faceless suit (government or private company) having control over knowing every little detail about you, they own you. You do or say something either of them don't like, and you will pay, either financially or with jail time.

Ah well. I'm gonna go talk about how much I hate my boss on Twitter and check myself into this new restaurant in Facebook that all my friends seem to recommend.


How about a 30% discount on your automobile insurance if we install a gps and cameras on your car, for your safety?

How about a 50% discount on your home owners insurance if we install cameras around your house. for your safety?

65% of people now have monitoring, do YOU want to be a victim?
 
2012-08-09 11:03:12 PM
shiattiest panic room EVER.

He's got millions and he has a room to hide in, with absolutely nothing in it? WTF man.

Not only would I have one but there would be a small space inside it to hide in that won't be on the plans because I'd build it out myself. Yes, I'm just slightly paranoid.
 
2012-08-09 11:25:29 PM

rka: Just trying to figure out what it takes for NZ to sell out its own sovereignty and abandon its people to a foreign power loose collection of corporations using their financial might to pressure a foreign power.


FTFY. The MPAA and RIAA pay a LOT of Congresscritters, and we have one of the best governments money can buy.

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Good grief, all that just for someone accused of copyright violation? If I didn't know better, I'd think they're taking down a major drug cartel, the head of the Mafia, etc.


You can almost hear the RIAA & MPAA...

"We must strike fear into all who would defy us! If we would treat a successful and wealthy businessman like this, it tells those watching that we have no problem doing the same, or worse, to them. Intimidate them. Crush them. Destroy them. We don't care about jurisdiction, or international law, or human rights - we care about sustaining our business model. It is our privilege."
 
2012-08-09 11:27:07 PM

relcec: but your a f*cking idiot.


Oooh, does that sting?
 
2012-08-09 11:40:46 PM
I'm looking so forward to the utter reaming he's going to give the New Zealand government, as more information regarding the interaction between the United States and New Zealand comes to light and Kiwis realize that we managed to strong-arm and deceive a portion of the New Zealand government into violating New Zealand's own laws & rights solely to make an example of a rich reformed hacker that wasn't breaking the law in any way the RIAA & MPAA could prove, but was making the RIAA & MPAA feel bad.
 
2012-08-09 11:42:52 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: rka: Percentage-wise how many Americans versus New Zealanders were there?

I don't think it said how many there were, but the one lawyer did press one of the NZ thugs into admitting that the FBI was present during both the planning and execution phases. It doesn't sound like the U.S. actually executed with their people, but it seemed like they were either onsite observing it or watching the cameras.


Nice to watch New Zealand's government get fitted with ankle handgrips, just so our government could ram a barge pole up their collective asses.

"Sure, we'll be happy to break our own laws and violate the rights of our own citizens, solely on your say-so."
 
2012-08-09 11:52:32 PM

rka: Just trying to figure out what it takes for NZ to sell out its own sovereignty and abandon its people to a foreign power.


A sociopathic right-wing whore of a Prime Minister who used to be a Merrill Lynch currency trader and who has promised his business mates he would sell the country to every thieving grasper he could find before he gets kicked out, and the promise of a Free Trade Agreement that would be horrible for the people in New Zealand who aren't already hugely wealthy.

/Simple, really.
 
2012-08-10 12:01:43 AM

Theaetetus: Considering that the guy accused of copyright violation also has "security forces" including armed guards patrolling the grounds, a bedside alert button, and a panic room, I think there's more to the story here.


Yeah, it's called being extremely rich. Rich enough that he had legitimately worries about getting kidnapped and held for ransom.

I'm not saying he wasn't ALSO a crook, but he had legit reasons for that stuff as well.
 
2012-08-10 12:04:57 AM

consider this: I have a constitutional right to download content I haven't paid for.


Ok, this is pretty cool. Someone wrote a trolling bot. It just scans a the list of keywords, then posts a comment that may or may not have anything to do with the subject at hand. Obviously, there are a few kinks that need working out,
 
2012-08-10 12:32:37 AM

Vaneshi: What is your problem with red light cameras?


The company that install the red light cameras get 50% of the revenue generated from the fines. That and they adjust the timing of the lights(normally decreasing the amount of time the light is yellow/green at busy intersections) to maximize the number of tickets issued.
 
2012-08-10 12:40:17 AM

EbolaNYC: shiattiest panic room EVER.

He's got millions and he has a room to hide in, with absolutely nothing in it? WTF man.

Not only would I have one but there would be a small space inside it to hide in that won't be on the plans because I'd build it out myself. Yes, I'm just slightly paranoid.


Maybe it was designed for a standoff with "criminals"?
 
2012-08-10 12:52:01 AM

EbolaNYC: shiattiest panic room EVER.


I don't disagree that it was sh*tty, but he appeared to have no plans resisting arrest... he even left the doors to the room unlocked so they didn't have to use force to find him.
 
2012-08-10 12:53:51 AM

DeltaPunch: EbolaNYC: shiattiest panic room EVER.

I don't disagree that it was sh*tty, but he appeared to have no plans resisting arrest... he even left the doors to the room unlocked so they didn't have to use force to find him.


A technicality if you will.
 
2012-08-10 03:34:30 AM

JonnyG: Yeah, all this discussion about the raid and what not, but what about that Jesus mansion? That's the kind of income an upload site gets you? Holy shiat.


Indeed. That is one nice farking spread. What the hell is the income source from hosting pirated shiat?
 
2012-08-10 03:45:50 AM

relcec: Theaetetus: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Good grief, all that just for someone accused of copyright violation? If I didn't know better, I'd think they're taking down a major drug cartel, the head of the Mafia, etc.

Considering that the guy accused of copyright violation also has "security forces" including armed guards patrolling the grounds, a bedside alert button, and a panic room, I think there's more to the story here. Remember, Al Capone was accused of forgetting to pay his taxes.

but your a f*cking idiot.


If you're going to be a drama llama, don't expect people to be nice to you after you spit in their face.
 
2012-08-10 05:52:58 AM

PeppaJack: Coelacanth: Me too. When I hear it, I feel like sticking my fingers down my throat and making myself vomit up all the faux patriotism I've been fed over all these years.

I agree. It makes me uncomfortable because that sentiment skates dangerously close to willful ignorance; a sort of real life Ricky Bobby stereotype. I am fond of the U.S. because it is the country of my birth and upbringing, but that doesn't stop me from recognizing its political/structural strengths and weaknesses. I think that the uber-patriotic, American exceptionalism crowd stick their collective fingers in their ears, and insist on their nationalism not out of love for their country, but rather out of the validation that they feel it brings them personally: "If America is the best at everything, it must be because Americans are the best at everything, therefore I'm the best." My two cents.


What gets me is that for all the hatred, division, bigotry and willful ignorance in this country, there is
no place in the world where someone has more of a chance to start from absolutely nothing and
build themselves and their family up to material success. I guess we have just enough bad stuff
in our national character that it all cancels out. Sometimes, anyway.
 
2012-08-10 06:31:46 AM

DjangoStonereaver: What gets me is that for all the hatred, division, bigotry and willful ignorance in this country, there is
no place in the world where someone has more of a chance to start from absolutely nothing and
build themselves and their family up to material success. I guess we have just enough bad stuff
in our national character that it all cancels out. Sometimes, anyway.



I'm afraid upward mobility is pretty much a myth these days. Most Americans now have less upward mobility than ancient Roman slaves these days. Once again, the United States is dead last among Western nations in something else.
 
2012-08-10 07:21:27 AM

EbolaNYC: shiattiest panic room EVER.

He's got millions and he has a room to hide in, with absolutely nothing in it?


Umm.. There's empty racks sitting there, I imagine it had nice clothes on it. You do realize that all the stuff IN the house was taken by the government to be sold off, and that house will soon be sold too.


I'm the last person to be prejudice about fat people growing up fat myself, but man his wife... I mean, money talks don't it?
 
2012-08-10 09:23:03 AM
Dotcom's considered a hero here in NZ. It's bizarre, considering he's a fat German dude who bought his way into the country, donated money to right-wing politicians and records shiatty autotuned pop music, but he is.

Mainly because since the raid, he's been particularly ballsy in standing up the charges against him, and has since virtually ruined the career of the MP he gave money to, who'd been a mainstay (and a stain) on NZ politics since the 1980s, twice been the mayor of our largest city, twice been a Govt minister, and now thanks to Dotcom is largely a joke.

Sorry I'm not going into detail, it's late here and I'm kind of just rambling, but anyway. This has been the big story all year here, and the general feeling is that Dotcom is going to win.

And for the record, he doesn't own that house - the Govt initially denied him permission to buy it, but he was allowed to rent it from the owners - who amassed their fortune through ripoff Christmas savings scams.
 
2012-08-10 11:02:33 AM
And people STILL want the state to have a monopoly on the use of force.
 
2012-08-10 12:00:44 PM

Trackball: And people STILL want the state to have a monopoly on the use of force.


That's what gets me. Of all the talk of revolution on the left, it seem contradictory that they want to give the government more policing powers and the people less options to fight the government.
 
2012-08-10 12:44:05 PM
He's going to do time and be a hardened criminal

thepeoplesmovies.files.wordpress.com


/nods knowingly
 
2012-08-10 11:34:39 PM

HempHead: Vaneshi: What is your problem with red light cameras?

The company that install the red light cameras get 50% of the revenue generated from the fines. That and they adjust the timing of the lights(normally decreasing the amount of time the light is yellow/green at busy intersections) to maximize the number of tickets issued.


In some places, the city/county only gets around 15 percent. Google it.
 
2012-08-11 11:29:53 AM

Theaetetus: LowbrowDeluxe: Stop living in as much fear as her

... I don't have any armed guards, and I don't think my cats are of much use in a raid.


FTFY, unless you have a lot of cats and are willing to throw them. :)
 
2012-08-11 04:31:38 PM
Funny that a bunch of sites today are making fun of the FBI for claiming that they feared Kim Dotcom had a "doomsday device" that he could use to delete evidence of piracy. Because it seems to me he could have, and easily.

Any smartphone or tablet with a Terminal emulator:

"ssh -l kimdotcom:moneybags 107.21.243.42
shred -vfz -n 100 /dev/sda"

And Doomsday achieved.
 
2012-08-12 06:49:20 AM
This is what you get for cheating on modern warfare.

/Kidding aside, wasn't there a crack house that needed raiding elsewhere?
/I'm assuming NZ has those, or something else needing of greater attention.
/There doesn't seem to be a reason for all this force.
 
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