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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-08-08 08:58:48 PM
Google on M-FAST led me to some attributes they look for in fakers: exaggerated or altered symptoms (the voices in my head never shut up, contrary to the way real imaginary voices act), forgetting to act consistently with claimed illness (not exhibiting the claimed form of OCD), taking an interviewer's suggestion of some weird symptom that doesn't really happen (yes, Doctor, I flinch when somebody says "Ni!"), claiming two unrelated illnesses (I can't help washing my hands and the voices never shut up).
 
2012-08-09 01:50:34 AM
25.media.tumblr.com
My pockets hurt.
 
2012-08-09 01:55:00 AM
I'm crazy so I'm getting a kick out of these posts.

/you laugh at me cuz i'm crazy
//i laugh at you cuz you're sane
 
2012-08-09 01:55:19 AM
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-08-09 01:55:42 AM
I can usually tell if she faking if she doesn't roll her eyes to the back of her head, convulse violently and start screaming in ancient mesopotamian.

Oh crazy? Yea I got that problem too. What are we talking about?
 
2012-08-09 02:02:45 AM
Do you pay $5 a month for TotalFark?

Yes?

Congratulations. You're not faking it.
 
2012-08-09 02:03:08 AM
A totes cray-cray detector? There's an app website for that:

img441.imageshack.us

img713.imageshack.us

img267.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-09 02:04:20 AM
www.gonemovies.com

Well, if he's NOT mentally ill, then he IS a time traveler out to stop the Terminator from stopping Sara Conner from having a son to stop the Skynet!
 
2012-08-09 02:05:43 AM
The "really" crazy ones follow you from one tread to another trying to get the last word in.
 
2012-08-09 02:10:41 AM
Who cares! what we really need in this country is a guide that tells us if a crazy person is just faking normality! Case in point, your typical tea bagging, gun toting, psychopathic, government conspiracy theory supporting American! Oh wait, there is, just ask them if they watch fox news!
 
2012-08-09 02:11:11 AM
i48.tinypic.com.
 
2012-08-09 02:12:15 AM
Whitey: Counselor, what evidence do you offer to support this new plea of insanity?
Hyper-Chicken: Well, for one, they done hired me to represent them.
[Whitey bangs his gavel.]
Whitey: Insanity plea is accepted. Mr. Bender, I hereby commit you to the asylum for criminally insane robots until such time as you are deemed cured.
Bender: Yahoo! The system fails again!
Whitey: And, Mr. Fry, I sentence you to the home for criminally insane humans.
Bailiff: Your Honour, that facility has been full ever since you ruled that being poor is a mental illness.
Whitey: [banging gavel] Order! Order! The only poor people I want to hear about are the people who tend to my pores at the spa. Just send them both to the robot loony bin and let's go.
 
2012-08-09 02:12:45 AM
The forensic psychologist may suggest an outrageous delusion during the interview, such as, "Do you believe cars are part of an organized religion?"

Outrageous delusion?

blog.nj.com
 
2012-08-09 02:15:53 AM

Point02GPA: The "really" crazy ones follow you from one tread to another trying to get the last word in.


you mean the ones pointing out that you didn't proofread yr comment before posting?

/they're just buggers, ignore them
 
2012-08-09 02:15:55 AM
Dark Lord: Hecubus, Am I evil?

Hecubus: You are the most evil, twisted, sadistic, dark mind of our times

Dark Lord: But Hecubus, I'm on trial!!!

Hecubus: Oops.

farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2012-08-09 02:16:11 AM
Believes this can happen:
encrypted-tbn2.google.com
Actually insane.

Thinks this makes sense:
martianchronicles.files.wordpress.com
Actually insane.

Thinks this is a rock:
planets.sciencedaily.com
But that this is a paradise:
images.wikia.com
Batshiat, foaming at the mouth insane.

Thinks that this is the Periodic Suggestion of the Elements:
0.tqn.com
...and that there are plenty of magical elements with sci-fi properties just waiting to be found behind or between the existing ones.

Screaming, sweating, bug-eyed schizophrenically insane.

Looks at 1969 vehicles:
boeingblogs.com

Looks at 2012 vehicles:
www.surclaro.com

Even though we use the same materials, the same turbines, the same chemical energy source, the same theories for decades, but that this is just around the corner:
www.startrekdesktopwallpaper.com

Self-lobotomy.
 
2012-08-09 02:18:21 AM

fragMasterFlash: A totes cray-cray detector? There's an app website for that:

[img441.imageshack.us image 401x271]

[img713.imageshack.us image 401x271]

[img267.imageshack.us image 401x271]


Gary Busey looks like macaque.
 
2012-08-09 02:19:14 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: Believes this can happen:
[encrypted-tbn2.google.com image 254x199]
Actually insane.

Thinks this makes sense:
[martianchronicles.files.wordpress.com image 630x625]
Actually insane.

Thinks this is a rock:
[planets.sciencedaily.com image 310x310]
But that this is a paradise:
[images.wikia.com image 396x377]
Batshiat, foaming at the mouth insane.

Thinks that this is the Periodic Suggestion of the Elements:
[0.tqn.com image 850x657]
...and that there are plenty of magical elements with sci-fi properties just waiting to be found behind or between the existing ones.

Screaming, sweating, bug-eyed schizophrenically insane.

Looks at 1969 vehicles:
[boeingblogs.com image 480x273]

Looks at 2012 vehicles:
[www.surclaro.com image 850x637]

Even though we use the same materials, the same turbines, the same chemical energy source, the same theories for decades, but that this is just around the corner:
[www.startrekdesktopwallpaper.com image 850x637]

Self-lobotomy.


You mad about something?
 
2012-08-09 02:19:24 AM
can we apply this to magic underpants?
 
2012-08-09 02:22:23 AM

mjjt: can we apply this to magic underpants?


As long as you proofread before posting.
 
2012-08-09 02:22:42 AM

LoneWolf343: Gary Busey looks like macaque.


No, macaque looks like Gary Busey, therefore macaque is batshiat insane. QED.
 
2012-08-09 02:24:03 AM
He looks like this guy:

chud.com
 
2012-08-09 02:27:57 AM

mjjt: can we apply this to magic underpants?


cpa-connecticut.com
 
2012-08-09 02:28:02 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: [terrifying inability to grasp basic concepts of science and technology]


So by your logic, the fact that wood-hafted hammers still exist disproves the existence of the drop press?

If you're serious and not trolling, service aircraft haven't changed much in 50 years because:

(1) It's cheaper to maintain mostly interchangeable parts than to make an incremental upgrade to efficiency
(2) Engineering-wise, the basic design is about as good as it's going to get, while further improvements are possible they're not cost-effective for wide distribution.

And in those years we've gone from needing the full backing of a superpower to get so much as a dog into orbit to the biggest obstacle being getting FAA (or whatever agency) clearance. We're doing quite well on the space technology front, thanks. Though if you want to start a campaign to get NASA more money I won't object, obviously.
 
2012-08-09 02:33:30 AM
What about crazy people faking sanity? 'cause my dating history would be a lot less frightening if I had learn to spot that six years ago.
 
2012-08-09 02:37:47 AM
From personal experience, dnrtfa, there is no easy way. Believe me. A person you know and love can act perfectly normal 99% of the time, and then BAM, throw a weird curve ball.

//Schizophrenia is a hell of a disease.

\don't know the asshole's problem in Colorado though
 
2012-08-09 02:58:18 AM
its a taking fire embers, old Gaza Strip for your whole family and there's toilet butter for the microphones with tires.
 
2012-08-09 02:58:31 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: blah blah blah no one is listening to me so I'll just shiat all over this thread


Can't you at least confine your bevets-level space tirades to the threads that are actually about space?
 
2012-08-09 03:02:43 AM

Point02GPA: mjjt: can we apply this to magic underpants?

As long as you proofread before posting.


I'm glad yr not taking it personally
 
2012-08-09 03:05:39 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: Self-lobotomy.


I haven't been keeping up with Star Trek, I still watch TOS sometimes but the newer ones just annoy me and by newer ones I mean anything without William Shatner.

I actually think the Enterprise from TOS looks more high tech than that monstrosity.

/get off my lawn.
 
2012-08-09 03:14:38 AM
Make mental illness an aggravating circumstance to the crime so that if someone claims it, and is then found guilty, their sentence is harsher. That bullshiat would stop quick.
 
2012-08-09 03:22:30 AM

Bondith: What about crazy people faking sanity? 'cause my dating history would be a lot less frightening if I had learn to spot that six years ago.


I did learn how to spot it, thanks to my ex. Now I just have a bunch of people who think I'm crazy, because I keep thinking that these perfectly nice people are crazy.

You can't win.
 
2012-08-09 03:25:46 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: Believes this can happen:
[encrypted-tbn2.google.com image 254x199]
Actually insane.

Thinks this makes sense:
[martianchronicles.files.wordpress.com image 630x625]
Actually insane.

Thinks this is a rock:
[planets.sciencedaily.com image 310x310]
But that this is a paradise:
[images.wikia.com image 396x377]
Batshiat, foaming at the mouth insane.

Thinks that this is the Periodic Suggestion of the Elements:
[0.tqn.com image 850x657]
...and that there are plenty of magical elements with sci-fi properties just waiting to be found behind or between the existing ones.

Screaming, sweating, bug-eyed schizophrenically insane.

Looks at 1969 vehicles:
[boeingblogs.com image 480x273]

Looks at 2012 vehicles:
[www.surclaro.com image 850x637]

Even though we use the same materials, the same turbines, the same chemical energy source, the same theories for decades, but that this is just around the corner:
[www.startrekdesktopwallpaper.com image 850x637]

Self-lobotomy.


If words have no meaning why do you post pictures without definitions?
 
2012-08-09 03:36:33 AM

davidphogan: Quantum Apostrophe: Believes this can happen:
[encrypted-tbn2.google.com image 254x199]
Actually insane.

Thinks this makes sense:
[martianchronicles.files.wordpress.com image 630x625]
Actually insane.

Thinks this is a rock:
[planets.sciencedaily.com image 310x310]
But that this is a paradise:
[images.wikia.com image 396x377]
Batshiat, foaming at the mouth insane.

Thinks that this is the Periodic Suggestion of the Elements:
[0.tqn.com image 850x657]
...and that there are plenty of magical elements with sci-fi properties just waiting to be found behind or between the existing ones.

Screaming, sweating, bug-eyed schizophrenically insane.

Looks at 1969 vehicles:
[boeingblogs.com image 480x273]

Looks at 2012 vehicles:
[www.surclaro.com image 850x637]

Even though we use the same materials, the same turbines, the same chemical energy source, the same theories for decades, but that this is just around the corner:
[www.startrekdesktopwallpaper.com image 850x637]

Self-lobotomy.

If words have no meaning why do you post pictures without definitions?


www.negrophonic.com

PIZZA!
 
2012-08-09 03:45:51 AM
Quantum Apostrophe: Self-lobotomy.

"I think any idea I don't agree with, but could maybe get humanity off this rock, is crazy"

Gotcha. There is a reason I favorited you as "Anti-space moran".

/And by favorited I mean colored you a deep deep red. Only slightly less red than bevets.
// Only slightly.
///Self-lobotomy, I wish you would
 
2012-08-09 03:48:48 AM
The guy in Colorado had a documented history of paranoid schizophrenia.

If we didn't have a Byzantine healthcare [sic] system, he would have received proper care before he lost it and killed innocent people.

PS is serious shiat. Civilized societies care for those who cannot care for themselves. In the barbaric US, you're on your own unless you have assets to hemmorage to the insurance cartel.
 
2012-08-09 04:09:59 AM

GreatGlavinsGhost: PIZZA!


Fantastic! That's a first for me, thanks :)
 
2012-08-09 04:12:00 AM
Here are some genuine common-sense ways to determine if someone is genuinely mentally ill:

1. History of such illness in the family. (Can be mention of the crazy old aunt who lived in the attic)
2. Person is not happy about being the way that they are. Genuine mental illness nearly always guarantees the person is 100% miserable about their condition and wishes it would change.
3. Consistent delusions or disconnects with reality that don't change over time. A person will not fear invasion by lizard people one day and invasion by the Commies the next (unless his delusion is that lizard people are ALSO communists).
4. History from family and friends that this has been ongoing and is not something new or unusual.
5. Improvement following long-term enforced treatment, such as in a hospital, and rapid deterioration following discharge.

Nobody ever is "temporarily insane," and mental illness almost never manifests suddenly as a full-blown condition. The initial psychotic break in schizophrenia is sudden and frightening, but it's never as severe as the disease will become later. If someone's family has been insisting for some time that their son or daughter has "never been quite right," that in itself should be a warning sign.
 
2012-08-09 04:13:21 AM
FTA: "I don't want to be so specific that people can avoid our detection methods," Jerry J Sweet

Well then, selling your books on Amazon detailing your methodology might not be such a good idea, eh?

Neuropsychology of Malingering Casebook, Jerry J. Sweet

he has several books on there, as do other colleagues;

Evaluation of Competence to Stand Trial (Best Practices in Forensic Mental Health Assessment), by Patricia Zapf

$35.00 on Amazon, also free delivery, but I bet any good insanity defense lawyer already has a copy to loan you. Sounds like some awesome pre-trial reading to me.
 
2012-08-09 04:42:28 AM

CliChe Guevara: FTA: "I don't want to be so specific that people can avoid our detection methods," Jerry J Sweet

Well then, selling your books on Amazon detailing your methodology might not be such a good idea, eh?

Neuropsychology of Malingering Casebook, Jerry J. Sweet

he has several books on there, as do other colleagues;

Evaluation of Competence to Stand Trial (Best Practices in Forensic Mental Health Assessment), by Patricia Zapf

$35.00 on Amazon, also free delivery, but I bet any good insanity defense lawyer already has a copy to loan you. Sounds like some awesome pre-trial reading to me.


Shhh, Storage Wars is on.
 
2012-08-09 04:46:21 AM

lohphat: The guy in Colorado had a documented history of paranoid schizophrenia.


Citation please? He was seeing a psychiatrist, who happened to specialise in schizophrenia, but that's all I could find. Just because his psych specialised in something doesn't mean she only took clients with that condition. She was based at the uni, so she'd have seen whatever students came her way.

Jared Loughner was quite clearly schizophrenic (you could see stereotypical "word salad" in his writing). But I don't think there's enoughly info for an armchair diagnosis of Holmes yet.
 
2012-08-09 04:56:29 AM
Crazy or not, Holmes deserves to die an old man in ADX Florence. Only human contact being a pair of hands sliding a food tray into his cell 3 times daily. No sunlight or fresh air 23 hours a day. Limited television if he behaves. Let him have 50+ years to think about it in near total silence until he dies a natural death. Lock him up and let everyone capale of doing so forget about him.
 
2012-08-09 04:57:52 AM
i852.photobucket.com

wibble?
 
2012-08-09 05:10:29 AM
Protip: If a guy just up and decides kill a dozen people for no reason, he's probably not right in the head.
 
2012-08-09 05:13:17 AM
A long time ago my dad tossed a good one at me.

Say you were misidentified as a psychopath freshly escaped from the local asylum.

They mistakenly nab you and toss you in the bin and throw away the key (because you were a dead ringer for the real guy)

How would you convince them that you're not crazy, and that they got the wrong guy?

I try not to think about that one too much.
 
2012-08-09 05:27:23 AM

lohphat: The guy in Colorado had a documented history of paranoid schizophrenia.

If we didn't have a Byzantine healthcare [sic] system, he would have received proper care before he lost it and killed innocent people.

PS is serious shiat. Civilized societies care for those who cannot care for themselves. In the barbaric US, you're on your own unless you have assets to hemmorage to the insurance cartel.

sad but true. heaven help you if you take ill, mentally or physically. i'm blessed as Mrs.Kritter has excellent insurance at work which she pays a bundle for. it's kept me in psychiatrists and medication for the last 13 years. years ago during a group therapy session a noob asked: "how do you know when you're cured?". a group member that had been through the system a few times answered: "you're cured when the insurance company stops paying the bills".

at this time my 83 yr old mom's health is failing. her insurance picks up some and her savings is rapidly dwindling to nothing. she picked up an infection while in a medical assist senior care facility ($9K / month). they discharged her with the infection. which then required a prescription costing $5K per refill. $5,000.00. holy crap.
 
2012-08-09 05:50:17 AM

CliChe Guevara: FTA: "I don't want to be so specific that people can avoid our detection methods," Jerry J Sweet

Well then, selling your books on Amazon detailing your methodology might not be such a good idea, eh?

Neuropsychology of Malingering Casebook, Jerry J. Sweet

he has several books on there, as do other colleagues;

Evaluation of Competence to Stand Trial (Best Practices in Forensic Mental Health Assessment), by Patricia Zapf

$35.00 on Amazon, also free delivery, but I bet any good insanity defense lawyer already has a copy to loan you. Sounds like some awesome pre-trial reading to me.


If you do need to buy it, don't get it on Amazon and leave a paper-trail.
 
2012-08-09 06:17:16 AM

SJKebab: [i852.photobucket.com image 225x225]

wibble?


Thanks you.
 
Skr
2012-08-09 06:31:00 AM
i0.kym-cdn.com
If you are crazy enough to pretend to be crazy,
are you still considered to be sane?
 
2012-08-09 06:55:27 AM

Hoopy Frood: Outrageous delusion?

blog.nj.com


lh6.googleusercontent.com

/just scratch 'probably' and you have your answer
 
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