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(Deadspin)   18,000 seats, two luxury suites, a 3,400 square foot HD JumboTron, $60M cost paid by taxpayers who voted for it in a landslide. Welcome to high school football in Allen, Texas   (deadspin.com) divider line 100
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2012-08-08 05:45:12 PM  
fark poor people
 
2012-08-08 06:53:29 PM  
I've seen probably close a dozen fark headlines on this stadium in the last couple weeks. Guess now that it's close to being finished it's big news again.

// lives in Allen, didn't vote for it, but guess I get to help pay for it...
 
2012-08-08 07:05:05 PM  
i63.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-08 07:05:54 PM  
All of a sudden hear Explosions in the Sky.

Tim Riggins needs somewhere to play.
 
2012-08-08 08:13:26 PM  
High School football is big in Texas? Huh. Never knew that.
 
2012-08-08 08:21:20 PM  
Texas tag desperately needed.
 
2012-08-08 08:27:41 PM  

mitchcumstein1: All of a sudden hear Explosions in the Sky.

Tim Riggins needs somewhere to play.


Coach Taylor is disappointed, son. And he's just gonna leave it at that.
 
2012-08-08 08:39:17 PM  
 
2012-08-08 08:54:22 PM  
Funny. I am suddenly reminded of when I am reading about the Hohokam indians. There were ball courts in every village, ones that reminded the archeologists of ballcourts in Central Mexico where the Maya had large courts for games. It is thought the ballcourts were used for games and even for commerce.

Is this what we will be remembered for? Our ballcourts?
 
2012-08-08 09:04:06 PM  
Because paying to improve the school is Communism.
 
2012-08-08 09:14:43 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Funny. I am suddenly reminded of when I am reading about the Hohokam indians. There were ball courts in every village, ones that reminded the archeologists of ballcourts in Central Mexico where the Maya had large courts for games. It is thought the ballcourts were used for games and even for commerce.

Is this what we will be remembered for? Our ballcourts?


Weren't they the ones that beheaded the losers?
 
2012-08-08 10:08:00 PM  

GAT_00: Because paying to improve the school is Communism.


They've already learned the three letters that count. U-S-A. What more edumacashuns do they need?
 
2012-08-08 10:08:49 PM  
cdn.everyjoe.com
 
2012-08-08 10:10:31 PM  
Aren't these the same people who believe all taxes are evil? How do they expect to pay for a $60M stadium?
 
2012-08-08 10:12:31 PM  
Anyone notice the comment linking the Cleveland Browns Stadium?

"This is what a $290 million high school stadium looks like"

Epic.
 
2012-08-08 10:15:44 PM  
Check out the slide show at the bottom. The stadium has an indoor golf facility and a weight room. I'm surprised they didn't throw an indoor batting cage in also for the baseball team. That's a hell of a stadium. But when they approved this weren't they also planning on using this stadium for concerts and other events that would bring in revenue throughout the year?
 
2012-08-08 10:16:33 PM  
This why Mexico actually won. ye haw teaxass ye farking haw
 
2012-08-08 10:17:57 PM  
Priorities, people !

Like our new Marlins Park, which despite everything, is quite awesome. A boondoggle, but awesome.
 
2012-08-08 10:20:42 PM  

czei: Aren't these the same people who believe all taxes are evil? How do they expect to pay for a $60M stadium?


MAJICK BEANS from the anus of Rush Limbaugh (bbuh).
 
2012-08-08 10:24:04 PM  

downstairs: High School football is big in Texas? Huh. Never knew that.


Its why people in the north will never get how big football is in the south, during the 80s there were more fans at our local high schools football games than the braves and sometimes the falcons.

It helped the braves only had few thousand some nights.
 
2012-08-08 10:24:11 PM  
Dang, they have mine beat.

Although I recently learned they are finally renovating the high school itself, about 12 years after the multi-million dollar "entertainment center" for the stadium.
fark this toxic culture. this is why the other countries are thrashing us in the things that matter
 
2012-08-08 10:29:19 PM  

Lsherm:
Weren't they the ones that beheaded the losers?


Yep.
A severed head was sometimes used as the ball, too. Now there's something you can respect.
 
2012-08-08 10:32:46 PM  
"which is mind-boggling to someone whose 3,000-student high school didn't even have a home field."

Which is mind-boggling to someone whose entire town was as big as that high school...and we were the biggest town in the county.
 
2012-08-08 10:35:41 PM  

steamingpile: downstairs: High School football is big in Texas? Huh. Never knew that.

Its why people in the north will never get how big football is in the south, during the 80s there were more fans at our local high schools football games than the braves and sometimes the falcons.

It helped the braves only had few thousand some nights.


Not surprised at all about the Braves. We're talking about an MLB team that failed to sell out more than a few playoff games, IIRC.
 
2012-08-08 10:38:56 PM  
With all the money they're saving on school textbooks now that all they use is the bible, they can afford the important stuff like this stadium.
 
2012-08-08 11:00:22 PM  
I wonder what kid in that district, with psychological needs not being met due to underfunding, will end up on Texasstan's death row in a few decades?
 
2012-08-08 11:12:28 PM  
Keep government away from my medicare!
 
2012-08-08 11:24:56 PM  
Really surprised it wasn't Southlake
 
2012-08-08 11:30:35 PM  
Yet these same people will vote down the next property tax increase to keep the schools going, once again proving that democracy just doesn't work.
 
2012-08-08 11:42:20 PM  
From the HuffPost article:

Allen Eagle Stadium's construction continued even as Texas lawmakers cut the state's education funding by $4 billion, reducing all school district tax rates by about one-third in 2006. By the 2011-2012 school year, Allen was facing a $4.5 million budget shortfall and was forced to cut 44 teaching positions and 40 support positions through attrition and voluntary buyouts.
 
2012-08-08 11:45:48 PM  
3400 square foot screen? What does that even mean? Since when are screens measured in square anything? Is it 34 feet by 100 feet? That's big, but not compared to Jerry's big screen. Granted it's a high school, but it's stated that way to make it seem bigger than it is, because it's an odd way to measure it.

//going back to watching my 6 square foot tv.
 
2012-08-08 11:50:14 PM  
"If I owned Texas and Hell, I'd rent out Texas and live in Hell."- William Tecumseh Sherman
 
2012-08-08 11:59:15 PM  

ChrisDe: From the HuffPost article:

Allen Eagle Stadium's construction continued even as Texas lawmakers cut the state's education funding by $4 billion, reducing all school district tax rates by about one-third in 2006. By the 2011-2012 school year, Allen was facing a $4.5 million budget shortfall and was forced to cut 44 teaching positions and 40 support positions through attrition and voluntary buyouts.


Yep, pretty much what I expected. Good thing you don't need to be that smart to play football.
 
2012-08-09 12:01:56 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: Dang, they have mine beat.

Although I recently learned they are finally renovating the high school itself, about 12 years after the multi-million dollar "entertainment center" for the stadium.
fark this toxic culture. this is why the other countries are thrashing us in the things that matter


The only thing that matters is GDP per capita and the general contentedness of the populace. Let everyone else study hard, we'll play sports and make movies.

/mostly joking
 
2012-08-09 12:06:36 AM  
In other news stupid uneducated people do stupid things. More after these messages from Chik-fil-a.
 
2012-08-09 12:10:47 AM  

Chariset: Really surprised it wasn't Southlake


Southlake just had theirs redone. And they win more.
 
2012-08-09 12:15:37 AM  

ChrisDe: From the HuffPost article:

Allen Eagle Stadium's construction continued even as Texas lawmakers cut the state's education funding by $4 billion, reducing all school district tax rates by about one-third in 2006. By the 2011-2012 school year, Allen was facing a $4.5 million budget shortfall and was forced to cut 44 teaching positions and 40 support positions through attrition and voluntary buyouts.


Wow. That's obscene.

/do they still get to have a team play there if the state achieves it's patriotic God-given mission to make organized education disappear?
 
2012-08-09 12:17:27 AM  

zarberg: steamingpile: downstairs: High School football is big in Texas? Huh. Never knew that.

Its why people in the north will never get how big football is in the south, during the 80s there were more fans at our local high schools football games than the braves and sometimes the falcons.

It helped the braves only had few thousand some nights.

Not surprised at all about the Braves. We're talking about an MLB team that failed to sell out more than a few playoff games, IIRC.


That is blamed on the lack of attention they showed to the fans, jacking up prices or gouging us for just making the playoffs, then not moving the stadium to where most of the fans lived or even moving it where it would be accessible to our shiatty rail system to bypass the traffic which took an hour to move 3 miles. The place just looks empty now because it seats something like 50K and most buy cheaper seats which for some reason they spread out and makes it look more empty, their season ticket sales office is moronic as well. I once attempted to throw my money at them but after getting told I would have to pay more than what I agreed on initially, I said fine send over the new deal so I can sign it, the farkers were trying to charge me more than the tickets listed for on their site, when I asked them why they said it was for the "enhanced fan experience". I asked them if everyone gets this in those seats not just the season ticket holders and she said "oh of course, we feel every fan gets the best treatment even if they arent season ticket holders" I was silent for a few minutes and when she finally said "sir?" I simply said "so you expect me to let you fark me over on prices when I could just buy this ticket every day for a cheaper price?". I almost laughed when she said "thats the charge to make sure you have a seat reserved". Its not a surprise to me that the stadium is half empty most nights, it used to be more fun to go when 3K would show up and we could move seats but now if you even dare to move one row down to give some room to those near you they will call security to have you thrown out if you dont crowd back into your row.

By the end of it, I just said to cancel my order completely. I would rather watch them on TV than deal with that bullshiat.
 
2012-08-09 12:29:01 AM  

ChrisDe: From the HuffPost article:

Allen Eagle Stadium's construction continued even as Texas lawmakers cut the state's education funding by $4 billion, reducing all school district tax rates by about one-third in 2006. By the 2011-2012 school year, Allen was facing a $4.5 million budget shortfall and was forced to cut 44 teaching positions and 40 support positions through attrition and voluntary buyouts.


USA! USA! USA!

/ugh, sometimes...
 
2012-08-09 12:29:57 AM  

GAT_00: Because paying to improve the school is Communism.


Likewise, using tax dollars to make sure people don't die from easily preventable and/or treatable medical conditions is Socialism.

/and don't you DARE use MY tax dollars to give an abortion to that 12-year-old SLUT who had the AUDACITY to get raped at knifepoint by her father and wound up getting pregnant with a child who has anencephaly and thus will most certainly die within 3 days of being born! It's her own fault for having sex outside of the context of Holy Matrimony™, so she must endure that punishment bestowed unto her by God™ for committing that sin.
 
2012-08-09 12:41:52 AM  

ongbok: Check out the slide show at the bottom. The stadium has an indoor golf facility and a weight room. I'm surprised they didn't throw an indoor batting cage in also for the baseball team. That's a hell of a stadium. But when they approved this weren't they also planning on using this stadium for concerts and other events that would bring in revenue throughout the year?


Because nothing says "revenue stream" like "2 luxury boxes and tens of thousands of bleacher seats."

The rationalization for pushing a $119 million bond to pay for this $60 million monstrosity, even as that same school district is firing teachers & support staff due to budget shortfalls, is that it could, in theory, possibly generate revenue. The reality is that I highly doubt they would ever get anything like the revenue to justify that thing, unless it's used as a megachurch on Sundays, thus generating a double-whammy of stupidity.

Texas - it's like a whole 'nother country. A third-world country, to be sure, but the slogan's still accurate.
 
2012-08-09 12:57:04 AM  
Can we give Texas back to Mexico?
 
2012-08-09 01:54:55 AM  

FormlessOne: ongbok: Check out the slide show at the bottom. The stadium has an indoor golf facility and a weight room. I'm surprised they didn't throw an indoor batting cage in also for the baseball team. That's a hell of a stadium. But when they approved this weren't they also planning on using this stadium for concerts and other events that would bring in revenue throughout the year?

Because nothing says "revenue stream" like "2 luxury boxes and tens of thousands of bleacher seats."

The rationalization for pushing a $119 million bond to pay for this $60 million monstrosity, even as that same school district is firing teachers & support staff due to budget shortfalls, is that it could, in theory, possibly generate revenue. The reality is that I highly doubt they would ever get anything like the revenue to justify that thing, unless it's used as a megachurch on Sundays, thus generating a double-whammy of stupidity.

Texas - it's like a whole 'nother country. A third-world country, to be sure, but the slogan's still accurate.


Never said that it was a good idea and would pay for the stadium quickly, just saying that was part of their justification to doing it. But actually if done correctly they probably could bring in enough revenue from other events to pay off the stadium in 10 years, but being Texas and a school board they wouldn't be able to do it right and in fact it would probably end in a huge corruption filled clusterfark.
 
2012-08-09 01:55:23 AM  
What, no free clinic for the cheerleaders? They are just begging for an STD epidemic.
 
2012-08-09 02:19:59 AM  
 
2012-08-09 02:29:55 AM  

czei: Aren't these the same people who believe all taxes are evil? How do they expect to pay for a $60M stadium?


Through a $119M bond. The way bonds work, of course, is that instead of the government taxing rich people, rich people tax the government. So there's always a big expensive PR campaign behind bond initiatives. The investors behind this boondoggle probably convinced a plurality of voters that all the revenue from four home football games a year plus the occasional country music jamboree will be enough to pay off the principal and interest. When this doesn't happen, they'll have another vote to raise taxes to pay off the bond, but this time the voters will give the district a mandate to fire teachers instead, so nobody's taxes will go up and everybody wins.

/except, of course, the students.
 
2012-08-09 02:38:36 AM  

Ow My Balls: I wonder what kid in that district, with psychological needs not being met due to underfunding, will end up on Texasstan's death row in a few decades?


This is America damnit, suck it up and go make some money for those who created your job or die.
 
2012-08-09 03:36:37 AM  

sparkeyjames: In other news stupid uneducated people do stupid things. More after these messages from Chik-fil-a.


How is this stupid? Texans have shown education is wasted on them.
 
2012-08-09 03:47:03 AM  

cretinbob: fark poor people


Best Places to Live
16. Allen, TX
Allen
WINNER
Top 100 rank: 16
Population: 84,000
Compare Allen to Top 10 Best Places
This town is a 30-minute drive from downtown Dallas, so it's no surprise that many residents work in the big city.
When not at the office, they have plenty to do right at home; Allen has a symphony, a ballet, malls, and even its own minor league hockey team.
Parents appreciate the top-rated school system and low crime rate. Their children appreciate MTV-featured "The Edge" -- one of the largest outdoor skate parks in the nation. --J.S.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bplive/2010/snapshots/PL4801 92 4.html
the median income in that town is $100k. not sure there are poor people for you to get outraged about.
 
2012-08-09 03:52:37 AM  

mitchcumstein1: All of a sudden hear Explosions in the Sky.

Tim Riggins needs somewhere to play.


Haha Explosions in the Sky... great reference... Oddly enough I watched Friday Night Lights today
 
2012-08-09 06:43:38 AM  

czei: Aren't these the same people who believe all taxes are evil? How do they expect to pay for a $60M stadium?


I think it might be paying for things that dont benefit them they find evil.

/ and no, the whole state of texas is not republican, moron.
 
2012-08-09 07:07:01 AM  
The article stated the stadium as 2 luxury suites?

WHO THE HELL GOES TO A HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAME AND WANTS TO WATCH IT FROM A LUXURY SUITE?!!
 
2012-08-09 07:33:38 AM  
How many of the players can read?
 
2012-08-09 07:48:56 AM  

foo monkey: How many of the players can read?


Potato.
 
2012-08-09 07:57:27 AM  

Barracuda: I've seen probably close a dozen fark headlines on this stadium in the last couple weeks. Guess now that it's close to being finished it's big news again.


This is the first one I've seen, but I don't usually hang out in the Sports tab.

60 million? Really? I went to high school in Texas. Our football field was a field with a couple of goalposts and some wooden bleachers. We played our big rivals at Rice Stadium once a year. We kicked their asses consistently.

One year they decided to chant something about SAT scores back at us. Our feelings were hurt.

Yeah, their average SAT score was better than ours.

$60 million on a stadium though? That's just crazy. I'd be surprised if the wooden bleachers where I attended high school even cost $5000 and it was a fairly well off school. To spend even $100,000 would be way over the top in my opinion. To spend 60 times that is absolutely insane.
 
2012-08-09 08:31:17 AM  
I'm sure they build crazier high school hockey arenas in Canada.
 
2012-08-09 08:41:05 AM  
My high school field in Massachusetts is about 80 years old now, with ruts in the grass in some spots. Stone wall across the front, 12-row-high concrete bleachers on both sides that don't go past the 25s (only to the 45s on the road side), and we're mostly sure the field isn't even 100 yards. (Sure never felt like it.)

It's still probably a better place to play than this. And all that got them exactly one more current NFL player than we currently have in our alumni roster.
 
2012-08-09 08:55:03 AM  

the_coach5040: Can we give Texas back to Mexico?


No, let them secede. Doubt Mexico would want them anyway.
 
2012-08-09 09:00:21 AM  
I really need to stay away from the internet, find a nice cozy rock, set up a hammock and swing away - this shiat is just maddening.
 
2012-08-09 09:05:38 AM  

foo monkey: How many of the players can read?


Just as few as the other students. This, is, after all, Texas. I hope the scoreboard includes a guy yelling the info out for the illiterate fans.
 
2012-08-09 09:15:18 AM  

raisedbycupofcoffee: The article stated the stadium as 2 luxury suites?

WHO THE HELL GOES TO A HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAME AND WANTS TO WATCH IT FROM A LUXURY SUITE?!!


Depends on what you classify as "luxury suites". My old school district (Park Hill in Kansas City, North) has a stadium with luxury suites. The Rotary Club or Chamber of Commerce or some other organization will often rent one out for a game. However, they're nothing terrifically fancy, and that stadium is the only one for football in the district, which has two high schools. You would never get a $60 million stadium bond passed by the voters there, period.
 
2012-08-09 09:16:20 AM  

the_coach5040: Can we give Texas back to Mexico?


says the guys from NJ...
 
2012-08-09 09:22:07 AM  
As a Texan I'm SHOCKED! SHOCKED!! I tell You

images.morris.com

/that thier high school stadium is bigger
 
2012-08-09 09:37:07 AM  
...and the glorification of high school students continue in this country, soon it will become like the NCAA if this continues. I played for a high school team where we were in the lower classes (small schools), stadium only fit around 600-700 at the most, and the field was dusty most of the time. I appreciated that experience, and this is almost like the NFL for some of these schools.
 
2012-08-09 09:52:47 AM  

Walker: Texas Forever tag desperately needed.


FTFY and Tim Riggins
 
2012-08-09 09:58:36 AM  
Lapse educational standards
Economic crisis
Fundamentalists trying to take over our country...
Screw it, let's build a giant high school football stadium

img805.imageshack.us

/quick and dirty
 
2012-08-09 10:24:03 AM  
I'm heading out to Texas next month specifically for this reason: Football! My best friend lives outside Dallas and the Junior High School football stadium is bigger than any high schools in the state of Colorado and bigger than CU Boulder's stadium. We're gonna watch a High School football game on Friday (at this very stadium), then TCU on Saturday, then the Cowboys vs. The Bucs on Sunday!

A whole freaking weekend of Texas Football. Life is gonna be pretty sweet (and expensive) that weekend.
 
2012-08-09 10:38:15 AM  

StrangeQ: Lapse educational standards


Lax?
 
2012-08-09 10:40:18 AM  
That is gonna provide some sweet memories for a class full of Waffle House employees in a few years.
 
2012-08-09 10:47:56 AM  
And if this town had spent the same amount of money on an opera theater, everyone would be raving about how wonderful a place it was being so committed to arts and culture. Fact is, a football stadium accomplishes the exact same thing.
 
2012-08-09 10:53:25 AM  

Cataholic: And if this town had spent the same amount of money on an opera theater, everyone would be raving about how wonderful a place it was being so committed to arts and culture. Fact is, a football stadium accomplishes the exact same thing.


Opera leads to long-term concussions, illiterates being given a sense of entitlement, and sophomores getting knocked up in the parking lot afterward?
 
2012-08-09 10:55:04 AM  

fatalvenom: I'm sure they build crazier high school hockey arenas in Canada.


no they don't. turns out most places separate education and athletics.
 
2012-08-09 10:56:58 AM  
Well with all those cuts in education I will have a job for the rest of my life.
That place cost probably more than all the high school stadiums in the county I live in.
I remember when I was back in high school they made a big stink about us getting ligths in the the stadium. Funny thing was at the first game they were used there was a big brawl and someone got hit in the face with a 2x4. There were no night games for 2 years.
 
2012-08-09 11:11:47 AM  

Happy Hours: $60 million on a stadium though? That's just crazy. I'd be surprised if the wooden bleachers where I attended high school even cost $5000 and it was a fairly well off school. To spend even $100,000 would be way over the top in my opinion. To spend 60 times that is absolutely insane.


You know how I can tell you played football and sucked at school?
 
2012-08-09 11:20:35 AM  
Hell, Schaefer Stadium cost only $7 million.

/yeah 1970 dollars
//came complete with high school type scoreboard
 
2012-08-09 11:22:17 AM  

Tellingthem: "which is mind-boggling to someone whose 3,000-student high school didn't even have a home field."

Which is mind-boggling to someone whose entire town was as big as that high school...and we were the biggest town in the county.


Which is mind-boggling to someone whose high school had 69 students, and therefore had to play in an eight-man football league. Entire town had 525 souls.

My first thought was "My god, that's beautiful".
 
2012-08-09 11:23:37 AM  

Ow My Balls: I wonder what kid in that district, with psychological needs not being met due to underfunding, will end up on Texasstan's death row in a few decades?


Does it matter?


FOOTBALL!!!!!
 
2012-08-09 11:35:27 AM  
Dear Allen,

You have finally arrived. Congratulations to you for becoming the new Plano/Odessa-Permian.

/That's a helluva' facility, though.
//Played a road game at Ratliff Stadium in the 80's while in high school & thought that place was a mostrosity.
 
2012-08-09 11:43:48 AM  
I love how stupid you anti-football people are.

Pincy: ChrisDe: From the HuffPost article:

Allen Eagle Stadium's construction continued even as Texas lawmakers cut the state's education funding by $4 billion, reducing all school district tax rates by about one-third in 2006. By the 2011-2012 school year, Allen was facing a $4.5 million budget shortfall and was forced to cut 44 teaching positions and 40 support positions through attrition and voluntary buyouts.

Yep, pretty much what I expected. Good thing you don't need to be that smart to play football.


Of course, the reason for the $4.5 million shortfall is that the STATE cut $21 million in funding. The county actually voted to increase their own property taxes to make up as much money as they could (with 60%+ voting to increase the taxes), but they still had to trim $4.5 million.

Then again, no one has any interest in actually representing the whole truth, not when outrage is so much easier to manufacture when you only show a portion of the truth.

FormlessOne: The rationalization for pushing a $119 million bond to pay for this $60 million monstrosity, even as that same school district is firing teachers & support staff due to budget shortfalls, is that it could, in theory, possibly generate revenue.


I assume you're equally pissed about the $59 million from the same bond that was spent on such useless things as an auditorium for the fine arts and a service center for the district. Oh, no, wait, you're pissed because money went to football, even though several sports will have facilities within the stadium. It's a district where the average student scores about 100 points higher than the average student in the state on the SATs and, as was mentioned earlier, is a very affluent suburb.

But hey, keep on up with your ignorant outrage against something you perceive as ignorance.
 
2012-08-09 11:56:36 AM  

IAmRight: I love how stupid you anti-football people are.

Pincy: ChrisDe: From the HuffPost article:

Allen Eagle Stadium's construction continued even as Texas lawmakers cut the state's education funding by $4 billion, reducing all school district tax rates by about one-third in 2006. By the 2011-2012 school year, Allen was facing a $4.5 million budget shortfall and was forced to cut 44 teaching positions and 40 support positions through attrition and voluntary buyouts.

Yep, pretty much what I expected. Good thing you don't need to be that smart to play football.

Of course, the reason for the $4.5 million shortfall is that the STATE cut $21 million in funding. The county actually voted to increase their own property taxes to make up as much money as they could (with 60%+ voting to increase the taxes), but they still had to trim $4.5 million.

Then again, no one has any interest in actually representing the whole truth, not when outrage is so much easier to manufacture when you only show a portion of the truth.


But yet they still went ahead and built this massively expensive football stadium when they couldn't even make up the shortfall as you just pointed out. So they still put a football stadium ahead of actual education. This is supposed to make us all feel better how?
 
2012-08-09 12:11:05 PM  

Pincy: But yet they still went ahead and built this massively expensive football stadium when they couldn't even make up the shortfall as you just pointed out. So they still put a football stadium ahead of actual education. This is supposed to make us all feel better how?


You're right - they should stop the construction of the facilities in the middle of it. That way they can have spent tens of millions of dollars on something and not end up with a finished product that can earn them revenue. All just out of respect, ultimately, since you can't siphon money from bond projects to other things legally.

If you guys would think about how real life actually works instead of just citing numbers that seem significant with no context, you might be better off.
 
2012-08-09 12:15:18 PM  

raisedbycupofcoffee: The article stated the stadium as 2 luxury suites?

WHO THE HELL GOES TO A HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAME AND WANTS TO WATCH IT FROM A LUXURY SUITE?!!


It's Texas, man.
 
2012-08-09 12:46:05 PM  

IAmRight: Pincy: But yet they still went ahead and built this massively expensive football stadium when they couldn't even make up the shortfall as you just pointed out. So they still put a football stadium ahead of actual education. This is supposed to make us all feel better how?

You're right - they should stop the construction of the FOOTBALL facilities in the middle of it. That way they can have spent tens of millions of FOOTBALL dollars on something and not end up with a finished FOOTBALL product that can earn them FOOTBALL revenue. All just out of respect, ultimately, since you can't siphon money from FOOTBALL bond projects to other FOOTBALL things legally.

If you guys would think about how real FOOTBALL life actually works instead of just citing numbers that seem FOOTBALL significant with no context, you might be better off.


FOOTBALL!!!!1!1!!1!
 
2012-08-09 01:42:19 PM  
What are we to do with this dump?!

www.permianpanthersfootball.com

If we had only made it bigger...
 
2012-08-09 01:56:27 PM  

IAmRight: Pincy: But yet they still went ahead and built this massively expensive football stadium when they couldn't even make up the shortfall as you just pointed out. So they still put a football stadium ahead of actual education. This is supposed to make us all feel better how?

You're right - they should stop the construction of the facilities in the middle of it. That way they can have spent tens of millions of dollars on something and not end up with a finished product that can earn them revenue. All just out of respect, ultimately, since you can't siphon money from bond projects to other things legally.

If you guys would think about how real life actually works instead of just citing numbers that seem significant with no context, you might be better off.


No, they should have never built it in the first place.
 
2012-08-09 02:11:59 PM  

Pincy: No, they should have never built it in the first place.


See, if you just freely admitted it's because you're a bitter twat instead of pretending it was to the detriment of education in the area or in any way a reflection on their education, then I wouldn't have had to shoot down all your fake arguments to strip them away from you.

If the people vote to pay for a stadium and pay for it, why the hell shouldn't they have one? Again, I presume you're also against the performing arts center they also financed, right? After all, that cost tens of millions and appeals only to a niche audience. I'm just wondering if you're a bitter twat because it's football-related or if you're a bitter twat because you hate when people can vote to fund projects that don't interest you.
 
2012-08-09 02:29:42 PM  

IAmRight: Pincy: No, they should have never built it in the first place.

See, if you just freely admitted it's because you're a bitter twat instead of pretending it was to the detriment of education in the area or in any way a reflection on their education, then I wouldn't have had to shoot down all your fake arguments to strip them away from you.

If the people vote to pay for a stadium and pay for it, why the hell shouldn't they have one? Again, I presume you're also against the performing arts center they also financed, right? After all, that cost tens of millions and appeals only to a niche audience. I'm just wondering if you're a bitter twat because it's football-related or if you're a bitter twat because you hate when people can vote to fund projects that don't interest you.


I have no problem with football or athletics in general. I have a problem with spending an exorbitant amount of money on it. Just because a majority of voters passed it doesn't mean it wasn't a bad idea. I'll be impressed when they vote for another property tax increase for schools next year because they are in the red now. Ya, right.
 
2012-08-09 02:55:11 PM  

Pincy: I'll be impressed when they vote for another property tax increase for schools next year because they are in the red now.


They voted for the property tax increase for schools because they were in the red this year, thanks to the state reducing funding. Oh, it doesn't count when they do things like that. They have to keep adding to their taxes, just to prove it to you, though, right?

BTW, bleacher seats go for $10. 18,000 seats times, say, six games a year, and you're banking over $1 million just on your home football games. Throw in the other sports, tournaments that will pay to use the stadium, and it can actually pay itself off. Rich people spend lots of money on fancy things they don't need. Welcome to Earth and how it's been since humans existed.
 
2012-08-09 03:30:09 PM  
Texas - A pioneer in voting against their own economic interests.
 
2012-08-09 03:38:21 PM  
Ashamed of my old high school in a way. I know that the bond had more than the stadium, it also covered a top notch performing arts center.

But there is one part of the story I haven't seen covered. Allen has had, for quite a while (25+ years), one of the best high school marching bands in the state. Back when I went there, people would leave after halftime (i.e. after the band played). We had a large share of the student body who were involved in one way or another. Looks like that is still the case with ~700 kids involved, according to wikipedia.

All that being said, I would rather the money dumped into academics and scholarships. Imagine if they endowed a 60 million dollar scholarship fund instead? That would be pretty damn awesome.
 
2012-08-09 03:42:18 PM  

Pincy: IAmRight: Pincy: No, they should have never built it in the first place.

See, if you just freely admitted it's because you're a bitter twat instead of pretending it was to the detriment of education in the area or in any way a reflection on their education, then I wouldn't have had to shoot down all your fake arguments to strip them away from you.

If the people vote to pay for a stadium and pay for it, why the hell shouldn't they have one? Again, I presume you're also against the performing arts center they also financed, right? After all, that cost tens of millions and appeals only to a niche audience. I'm just wondering if you're a bitter twat because it's football-related or if you're a bitter twat because you hate when people can vote to fund projects that don't interest you.

I have no problem with football or athletics in general. I have a problem with spending an exorbitant amount of money on it. Just because a majority of voters passed it doesn't mean it wasn't a bad idea. I'll be impressed when they vote for another property tax increase for schools next year because they are in the red now. Ya, right.


so quit liking what I don't like in a place I don't even live in.
 
2012-08-09 04:25:29 PM  

A Fark Handle: fatalvenom: I'm sure they build crazier high school hockey arenas in Canada.

no they don't. turns out most places separate education and athletics.


Fatal is a dumbass/troll.
 
2012-08-09 05:37:03 PM  

RyansPrivates: Imagine if they endowed a 60 million dollar scholarship fund instead? That would be pretty damn awesome.


I feel like if the median income is $85,000 and they're voluntarily raising their own taxes to make up for the state's lack of funding, they're not going to need $60 million worth of scholarships.
 
2012-08-09 05:54:12 PM  

Happy Hours: $60 million on a stadium though? That's just crazy. I'd be surprised if the wooden bleachers where I attended high school even cost $5000 and it was a fairly well off school. To spend even $100,000 would be way over the top in my opinion. To spend 60 600 times that is absolutely insane.


/FTFY
//some math involved
/\ /\ wigwams
 
2012-08-09 05:54:35 PM  

mattador: the_coach5040: Can we give Texas back to Mexico?

No, let them secede. Doubt Mexico would want them anyway.


Yeah, that must be why millions of Texans emigrated to Mexico.
 
2012-08-09 06:01:13 PM  

IAmRight: RyansPrivates: Imagine if they endowed a 60 million dollar scholarship fund instead? That would be pretty damn awesome.

I feel like if the median income is $85,000 and they're voluntarily raising their own taxes to make up for the state's lack of funding, they're not going to need $60 million worth of scholarships.


85k is a pretty good income, no doubt. But I know from first-hand experience, there are a lot of kids that come from families with 50k or less in Allen. 50k or less for two kids isn't a slam dunk for college by any stretch. I still think it would be cool if they did it, but they won't because socialism. It Texas after all.
 
2012-08-09 09:03:50 PM  

Happy Hours: Barracuda: I've seen probably close a dozen fark headlines on this stadium in the last couple weeks. Guess now that it's close to being finished it's big news again.

This is the first one I've seen, but I don't usually hang out in the Sports tab.

60 million? Really? I went to high school in Texas. Our football field was a field with a couple of goalposts and some wooden bleachers. We played our big rivals at Rice Stadium once a year. We kicked their asses consistently.

One year they decided to chant something about SAT scores back at us. Our feelings were hurt.

Yeah, their average SAT score was better than ours.

$60 million on a stadium though? That's just crazy. I'd be surprised if the wooden bleachers where I attended high school even cost $5000 and it was a fairly well off school. To spend even $100,000 would be way over the top in my opinion. To spend 60 times that is absolutely insane.


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2012-08-09 11:35:19 PM  

FARK in FL: Happy Hours: $60 million on a stadium though? That's just crazy. I'd be surprised if the wooden bleachers where I attended high school even cost $5000 and it was a fairly well off school. To spend even $100,000 would be way over the top in my opinion. To spend 60 600 times that is absolutely insane.

/FTFY
//some math involved
/\ /\ wigwams


You are correct - and I apparently are not good at math. 60 times as much was mind boggling enough for me. 600 times as much - well, since I can't do math and I estimated my high school stadium couldn't have cost more than $5000 because all it consisted of were wooden bleachers and a couple of of goalpost what does that actually make it? 20 times 600? That's like a brazilian or something.
 
2012-08-10 04:09:12 AM  

RyansPrivates: nd had more than the stadium, it also covered a top notch performing arts center.

But there is one part of the story I haven't seen covered. Allen has had, for quite a while (25+ years), one of the best high school marching bands in the state. Back when I went there, people would leave after halftime (i.e. after the band played). We had a large share of the student body who were involved in one way or another. Looks like that is still the case with ~700 kids involved, according to wikipedia.

All that being said, I would rather the money dumped into academics and scholarships. Imagine if they endowed a 60 million dollar scholarship fund instead? That would be pretty damn awesome.


Speaking as someone who was part of the Allen Escadrille, back in the late 90's when it was huge upset that we didn't make it to state, 700 people is ridiculous.

As for the whole hick stereotype, judging by my Facebook friends from the old Allen High. There's at least two Allen High graduates charging ridiculous rates for their legal knowledge, and a couple of nerds with CS degrees working for MS spamming pics of their kids.
 
2012-08-10 05:46:20 AM  

Happy Hours: Barracuda: I've seen probably close a dozen fark headlines on this stadium in the last couple weeks. Guess now that it's close to being finished it's big news again.

This is the first one I've seen, but I don't usually hang out in the Sports tab.

60 million? Really? I went to high school in Texas. Our football field was a field with a couple of goalposts and some wooden bleachers. We played our big rivals at Rice Stadium once a year. We kicked their asses consistently.

One year they decided to chant something about SAT scores back at us. Our feelings were hurt.

Yeah, their average SAT score was better than ours.

$60 million on a stadium though? That's just crazy. I'd be surprised if the wooden bleachers where I attended high school even cost $5000 and it was a fairly well off school. To spend even $100,000 would be way over the top in my opinion. To spend 60 times that is absolutely insane.


If I doubted you went to school in Texas, the last sentence convinced me.

/I kid
 
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