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(Foreign Policy)   Governor Barbour to French millionaires: if you want to avoid all those new taxes your new President is proposing, why not move to Mississippi? No, I'm serious. Stop laughing   (foreignpolicy.com) divider line 397
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2012-08-09 06:31:22 AM

James F. Campbell: Thanks for warning us -- now we don't have to read your posts anymore.


What, you haven't plonked that moron yet? Even his profile can be summed up with "[LIBSLIBSLIBS.jpg]."
 
mhd
2012-08-09 06:37:46 AM
This sounds like the premise of a Louis de Funès movie.
 
2012-08-09 06:40:39 AM
I think its one of those situations that will play itself out and show who was right in a decade.

Sucking all the money into government coffers doesn't guarantee its going to be spent effectively. While You may not be collecting taxes from the rich man in town, that doesn't mean he isn't buying a number of services and products from around that place.
Ideally I would want to create a situation where rich people live and spend their wealth among citizens I can also tax.
The trouble is in making sure they don't sit on their money, unfairly influence the government, or outsource valuable business. All things that could be dealt with by means other than taxation.

Going for the neck of the golden goose isn't always the best way to wring eggs out of it.
 
2012-08-09 06:40:51 AM

ozarkmatt: Walking into this tab. Again. And will get smacked by the libs that live here. Fully expect that,

But I have to ask. There has NEVER been a situation where the government takes the public's cash willy nilly and it works out well.

Never Ever.

Am I wrong? Or am I gonna get a bunch of crap?

I'll check in the morn' see what else shows up. But since this Fark, I have a pretty good idea.


Ever hear this one: Better to remain quiet and be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt?

Yeah.
 
2012-08-09 06:40:57 AM
(looks at the actual link) Oh Christ, it's written by Barbour, and he's telling tall tales about 'job creators'. No, those billionaires aren't the source of jobs, they're a burden on whatever economy they sucked their money out of.
 
2012-08-09 06:42:13 AM

way south: All things that could be dealt with by means other than taxation.


Such as?
 
2012-08-09 06:45:36 AM

Alphax: I remember hearing something about one of these southern states setting up a 'papers please' law like Arizona, and then a German car executive was caught without his passport. Awkward.


It was Alabama, and the executives were from Mercedes and Honda.

"Just 12 days after a Mercedes-Benz executive was arrested and briefly jailed in Tuscaloosa for not having his driver's license with him.

Now it's happened again.

On Wednesday, Ichiro Yada, a Japanese national working on assignment at Honda's assembly plant in Lincoln, Alabama, was stopped at a traffic checkpoint where officers checked drivers' licenses in an attempt to catch unlicensed drivers.

Yada showed the officers a passport, a U.S. work permit, and a valid international driver's license. Despite that, he was issued a ticket--which was dismissed three days later by a judge, presumably at the request of embarrassed city officials"

Link
 
2012-08-09 06:50:15 AM

Alphax: (looks at the actual link) Oh Christ, it's written by Barbour, and he's telling tall tales about 'job creators'. No, those billionaires aren't the source of jobs, they're a burden on whatever economy they sucked their money out of.


Barbour is a pulsating cyst in the armpit of commentary.
 
2012-08-09 06:50:16 AM
Yeah, the French are going to flock to Mississippi... *rolls eyes*
 
2012-08-09 06:50:45 AM

farkityfarker: There are actually people who really believe that letting Bush's "temporary" tax cuts expire constitutes a tax increase?


You're joking, right? When tax rates go up, that's a tax increase.

On the other hand, all you libs who want the rich to pay 'their fair shareTM' should be packing up and heading for Gay Paris. It'll be Utopia in no time at all!
 
2012-08-09 06:52:54 AM
A good fence and gun tower will keep those unpatriotic French from escaping.
images.motorcycle-usa.com
 
2012-08-09 06:53:31 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: What, you haven't plonked that moron yet? Even his profile can be summed up with "[LIBSLIBSLIBS.jpg]."


I do now. Never had the misfortune of meeting him before.
 
2012-08-09 06:55:36 AM

shotglasss: You're joking, right? When tax rates go up, that's a tax increase.


And when the tax rates are temporarily lowered, that's temporary.
 
2012-08-09 06:58:26 AM

way south: Going for the neck of the golden goose isn't always the best way to wring eggs out of it.


Why not? The Republican chicken-farking hasn't had any results besides them standing around with their hootuses covered in blood, spooge, and feathers.
 
2012-08-09 07:02:18 AM

shotglasss: farkityfarker: There are actually people who really believe that letting Bush's "temporary" tax cuts expire constitutes a tax increase?

You're joking, right? When tax rates go up, that's a tax increase.

On the other hand, all you libs who want the rich to pay 'their fair shareTM' should be packing up and heading for Gay Paris. It'll be Utopia in no time at all!


Ahhhh, the people who will never ever be rich,who don't even make enough to pay income tax, defending their masters, hoping for some crumbs from the table. Good little slave! Enjoy YOUR tax increases when Romney gets elected. You know, so you have some skin in the game

/you did forget to complain about unions
//Also you've obviously never been to Paris.
 
2012-08-09 07:06:26 AM
Explains why so many Marylanders live in Palm Beach.

A new report says wealthy Maryland residents may be moving out due to recent tax hikes - a finding that is sure to escalate the battle over taxing the American rich.

The study, by the anti-tax group Change Maryland, says that a net 31,000 residents left the state between 2007 and 2010, the tenure of a "millionaire's tax" pushed through by Gov. Martin O'Malley. The tax, which expired in 2010, in imposed a rate of 6.25 percent on incomes of more than $1 million a year.
 
2012-08-09 07:07:50 AM
Go for it.
Discover that rich, non-contributing parasites (example - Donald Trump) cost society what a thousand "welfare bums" do.
Profit?
 
2012-08-09 07:09:58 AM
1. Foreign country has election.
2. Elected candidate and controlling party does exactly what he said he would do.
3. GOP whines.

"Elections have consequences."
- House Speaker John Boehner

Republicans aren't big fans of democracy.
 
2012-08-09 07:31:27 AM
I just love this fantasy these teabagger retards have that hyper wealthy people are going to pick and move from Paris/Manhattan/where ever with their wives, kids, and mistresses to live amongst them in their shiat heel states and leave behind the cultural and business hubs of the planet.

Maybe tout the number of chik-fil-a's you have per capita?
 
2012-08-09 07:37:12 AM

HotWingConspiracy: I just love this fantasy these teabagger retards have that hyper wealthy people are going to pick and move from Paris/Manhattan/where ever with their wives, kids, and mistresses to live amongst them in their shiat heel states and leave behind the cultural and business hubs of the planet.

Maybe tout the number of chik-fil-a's you have per capita?


And the only way any of the wealth would 'trickle down' to the community would be in tax form.. which Republicans are against.
 
2012-08-09 07:37:22 AM

Lenny_da_Hog: Worked for Toyota, eh?

"Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for the Woodstock project.

He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained - and often illiterate - workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment."


i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-08-09 07:46:12 AM

smitty04: Lenny_da_Hog: Worked for Toyota, eh?

"Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for the Woodstock project.

He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained - and often illiterate - workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment."

[i3.kym-cdn.com image 150x134]


Ignorant people are a race now?
 
2012-08-09 07:47:52 AM
Phil Moskowitz: Did Somalia try wooing them as well?

Ha! There's the response I was looking for. Seriously, how farking retarded is Barbour? Or do all Republicans think that low taxes are the only important thing on earth, and that moving from, say... the Latin Quarter in Paris to Dipsh#t, Mississippi in order to save a little tax money would be an obviously good decision?
 
2012-08-09 07:48:51 AM

keylock71: smitty04: Lenny_da_Hog: Worked for Toyota, eh?

"Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for the Woodstock project.

He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained - and often illiterate - workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment."

[i3.kym-cdn.com image 150x134]

Ignorant people are a race now?


Yes. AKA working class republicans
 
2012-08-09 07:49:51 AM

keylock71: smitty04: Lenny_da_Hog: Worked for Toyota, eh?

"Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for the Woodstock project.

He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained - and often illiterate - workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment."

[i3.kym-cdn.com image 150x134]

Ignorant people are a race now?


Yeah - a race to the bottom.
 
2012-08-09 07:51:04 AM
Does anyone believe that millionaires and billionaires really pay such high taxes? Yes, on paper it may seem they pay a shocking amount of taxes but in reality they have accountants that find so many loopholes and write offs that they usually pay a fraction of that.

If these people actually paid what they were supposed to do, that is, the current tax percentage rather than the potential one, I think financial state of the world, especially in the US, would be very different.

So, try as I might, I can't bring myself to feel sorry for these people.
 
2012-08-09 07:54:43 AM

heypete: way south: All things that could be dealt with by means other than taxation.

Such as?


I'm not big on economics, but I could suggest benefits for opening local businesses and buying those services. Add penalties for outsourcing and tariffs on imported goods. Reward rich people for putting money into the local banks and venture capital by decreasing taxes a tad further. Similarly you can encourage them to revitalize old buildings in troubled parts of town by letting them write off some of the cost. This brings infrastructure fixes and more business. Let them get benefits for training the permanent residents in needed skills, those skill sets help locals start more businesses.

If we believe that wealth attracts wealth, attracting the wealthy from some other nation is a beneficial thing because trickle down theory works, to a point.
You just need to know how to milk the rich and their sycophants in other ways.

/if they only speak French, you'd be developing quite a bit of work for translation services alone.
/and you can assume they'll do a lot of traveling, which is good for the ports.
 
2012-08-09 07:56:58 AM

mekki: Does anyone believe that millionaires and billionaires really pay such high taxes? Yes, on paper it may seem they pay a shocking amount of taxes but in reality they have accountants that find so many loopholes and write offs that they usually pay a fraction of that.


Anyone with half a brain knows that they don't pay those rates. It's just like the argument that we have the highest corporate income tax rate on the planet. They totally neglect to mention the single digit tax rates (or even no income taxes at all) that the largest corporations often pay.
 
2012-08-09 07:57:03 AM

jso2897: keylock71: smitty04: Lenny_da_Hog: Worked for Toyota, eh?

"Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for the Woodstock project.

He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained - and often illiterate - workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment."

[i3.kym-cdn.com image 150x134]

Ignorant people are a race now?

Yeah - a race to the bottom.


Heh...

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" - Isaac Asimov
 
2012-08-09 08:09:53 AM
I thought patriots hated the French.

Oh wait millionaires, got it.

They aren't even Americans and Republicans want to cut their taxes just because they are millionaires. Its really fascinating.
 
2012-08-09 08:10:50 AM
Mississippi? No. Louisiana? Maybe.
 
2012-08-09 08:12:26 AM

way south: heypete: way south: All things that could be dealt with by means other than taxation.

Such as?

I'm not big on economics, but I could suggest benefits for opening local businesses and buying those services. Add penalties for outsourcing and tariffs on imported goods. Reward rich people for putting money into the local banks and venture capital by decreasing taxes a tad further. Similarly you can encourage them to revitalize old buildings in troubled parts of town by letting them write off some of the cost. This brings infrastructure fixes and more business. Let them get benefits for training the permanent residents in needed skills, those skill sets help locals start more businesses.

If we believe that wealth attracts wealth, attracting the wealthy from some other nation is a beneficial thing because trickle down theory works, to a point.
You just need to know how to milk the rich and their sycophants in other ways.

/if they only speak French, you'd be developing quite a bit of work for translation services alone.
/and you can assume they'll do a lot of traveling, which is good for the ports.


Translation: "tax cuts for job creatin' job creators."

Meanwhile: "ZOMG millions pay no [income] taxes, tax them!"
 
2012-08-09 08:12:54 AM
French Millionaires: "Uh, no thanks. We've seen your healthcare system. We'd rather stick with the best one in the world. And you people are completely insane over there."
 
2012-08-09 08:14:37 AM

mekki: Does anyone believe that millionaires and billionaires really pay such high taxes? Yes, on paper it may seem they pay a shocking amount of taxes but in reality they have accountants that find so many loopholes and write offs that they usually pay a fraction of that.

If these people actually paid what they were supposed to do, that is, the current tax percentage rather than the potential one, I think financial state of the world, especially in the US, would be very different.

So, try as I might, I can't bring myself to feel sorry for these people.



I wonder if an studies have been done to support the idea that most of the rich actually create jobs. How does that work out?

How do tax breaks on personal income lead to jobs? Sure they could hire more gardeners, personal assistants, etc.... but law of diminishing returns. What are the chances that they will just tuck that money away in a bank with the rest of their fortune rather than spend more on luxury?

Investment then? How often does buying stocks generate income for businesses? Sure it does if the company is selling new stock or reselling old stock. But isnt the vast majority traded between investors?

I might believe that tax cuts to businesses would create jobs. But why would a company hire more people if the demand isnt there? Reinvestment? Maybe; or just sit on liquidity in tough times or payouts to stockholders and management.

Can Fark conservatives explain any of this? Serious questions; no sarcasm.
 
2012-08-09 08:16:08 AM

mekki: Does anyone believe that millionaires and billionaires really pay such high taxes? Yes, on paper it may seem they pay a shocking amount of taxes but in reality they have accountants that find so many loopholes and write offs that they usually pay a fraction of that.

If these people actually paid what they were supposed to do, that is, the current tax percentage rather than the potential one, I think financial state of the world, especially in the US, would be very different.

So, try as I might, I can't bring myself to feel sorry for these people.


I have lived in countries with much simpler tax laws that don't allow you to hide money as easily as you do int he US. Not sure if France is one of those coutnries but the reforms he is proposing would be make it almost impossible to write off as much stuff.
 
2012-08-09 08:17:38 AM

ozarkmatt: Walking into this tab. Again. And will get smacked by the libs that live here. Fully expect that,

But I have to ask. There has NEVER been a situation where the government takes the public's cash willy nilly and it works out well.

Never Ever.

Am I wrong? Or am I gonna get a bunch of crap?

I'll check in the morn' see what else shows up. But since this Fark, I have a pretty good idea.


Well, "willy nilly" is kind of a loose definition. But I'd start looking at Norway and Finland as examples.

On the flipside, can you give us an example of a functioning 1st-world country that had zero taxes?
 
2012-08-09 08:18:32 AM

SquiggelyGrounders: Can Fark conservatives explain any of this? Serious questions; no sarcasm.


Good luck getting a serious answer, my friend... I can't even get one of them to explain what Romney is going to do as President that's going to improve the economy.
 
2012-08-09 08:19:11 AM

fenianfark: mekki: Does anyone believe that millionaires and billionaires really pay such high taxes? Yes, on paper it may seem they pay a shocking amount of taxes but in reality they have accountants that find so many loopholes and write offs that they usually pay a fraction of that.

Anyone with half a brain knows that they don't pay those rates. It's just like the argument that we have the highest corporate income tax rate on the planet. They totally neglect to mention the single digit tax rates (or even no income taxes at all) that the largest corporations often pay.


General Electric, one of the largest corporations in America, filed a whopping 57,000-page federal tax return earlier this year but didn't pay taxes on $14 billion in profits. The return, which was filed electronically, would have been 19 feet high if printed out and stacked.

It pays to have friends in high places.
 
2012-08-09 08:21:15 AM

Dinjiin: On the flip side, if you have consecutive annual budget increases of a fixed amount and then decide to halt the increases, some people consider that a cut.


It's almost as if there's these things called "population growth" and "inflation".
 
2012-08-09 08:24:31 AM

smitty04: fenianfark: mekki: Does anyone believe that millionaires and billionaires really pay such high taxes? Yes, on paper it may seem they pay a shocking amount of taxes but in reality they have accountants that find so many loopholes and write offs that they usually pay a fraction of that.

Anyone with half a brain knows that they don't pay those rates. It's just like the argument that we have the highest corporate income tax rate on the planet. They totally neglect to mention the single digit tax rates (or even no income taxes at all) that the largest corporations often pay.

General Electric, one of the largest corporations in America, filed a whopping 57,000-page federal tax return earlier this year but didn't pay taxes on $14 billion in profits. The return, which was filed electronically, would have been 19 feet high if printed out and stacked.

It pays to have friends in high places.


You act like you have a problem with this.
 
2012-08-09 08:24:42 AM

keylock71: SquiggelyGrounders: Can Fark conservatives explain any of this? Serious questions; no sarcasm.

Good luck getting a serious answer, my friend... I can't even get one of them to explain what Romney is going to do as President that's going to improve the economy.


Im starting to think there are no true conservatives on Fark. Just trolls and parrots.
 
2012-08-09 08:30:19 AM
Why is it that the GOP, the most unconditionally patriotic, country-loving, flag-waving group of people in the world, seems to be the quickest to suggest moving to another country when it might benefit you tax-wise?

And why would a Republican suggest, for this reason, anyone move to the US, where we have crushing taxation levels eleventy-billion percent higher than anywhere?

Haley, I am confuse.
 
2012-08-09 08:30:44 AM

keylock71: I can't even get one of them to explain what Romney is going to do as President that's going to improve the economy.


oh come on, you know the day Obama won the Presidency was a dark day for the economy
 
2012-08-09 08:30:49 AM

mekki: Does anyone believe that millionaires and billionaires really pay such high taxes?


www.ijreview.com
"Hold up. Pay taxes? Who the hell does that?"
 
2012-08-09 08:34:03 AM

SquiggelyGrounders: keylock71: SquiggelyGrounders: Can Fark conservatives explain any of this? Serious questions; no sarcasm.

Good luck getting a serious answer, my friend... I can't even get one of them to explain what Romney is going to do as President that's going to improve the economy.

Im starting to think there are no true conservatives on Fark. Just trolls and parrots.


I don't think there have been any true conservatives since somebody made that retard Grover the king of conservative fiscal policy. Anybody who signs on to that shiat is a moron or a troll.
 
2012-08-09 08:35:21 AM

ozarkmatt: Walking into this tab. Again. And will get smacked by the libs that live here. Fully expect that,

But I have to ask. There has NEVER been a situation where the government takes the public's cash willy nilly and it works out well.

Never Ever.

Am I wrong? Or am I gonna get a bunch of crap?

I'll check in the morn' see what else shows up. But since this Fark, I have a pretty good idea.


Never ever! I know right! When has the government ever done anything worth while. Taking money from tax paying citizens and then throwing it in a pit.

I like how you typed your ignorant creed using the Internet.

/Vote Republican
 
2012-08-09 08:36:00 AM

Oakenhelm: transplendent: Lenny_da_Hog: Just because Mississippi ranks 50th of the 50 states in education almost everything it's possible to keep score in is nothing to worry about.

Fixed

Hey, I'm pretty sure Mississippi is Number 1 in percentage of population with obesity


img140.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-09 08:36:46 AM

Jackson Herring: keylock71: I can't even get one of them to explain what Romney is going to do as President that's going to improve the economy.

oh come on, you know the day Obama won the Presidency was a dark day for the economy


He told Joe the plumber that he wanted to spread the wealth.
 
2012-08-09 08:39:29 AM

smitty04: He told Joe the plumber that he wanted to spread the wealth.


Did he?
 
2012-08-09 08:41:39 AM
Who wouldn't choose this...

media.web.britannica.comwww.mississippi.com

Over this...

upload.wikimedia.orgwww.vacation-planet.com
 
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