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2012-08-08 11:36:18 PM

Hollie Maea: cchris_39: She's right. Fire her sorry ass.

The problem is, the second he does that, the Democrats immediately start with the "If he can't stand up to Ann Coulter, how will he stand up to_____________?" Also, if he told her to say this, which is likely, then fires her, she might become "disgruntled". It really is hard to overstate how incredibly screwed he is.


Not to mention it underlines a serious problem Mitt has with controlling the narrative and hiring decent staff. There hasn't been a moment in this circus where he has really done anything that wasn't defense.
 
2012-08-08 11:39:35 PM
It will be interesting to see what happens after the convention. I almost get the impression obama is holding back until it is too late to get a new candidate.
 
2012-08-08 11:48:53 PM
So, if anyone doubts the damage of this thing....
I've been monitoring the line for Romney's election on intrade.com for quite some time now, and that thing never budges for any single incident. All of the terrible things that happened to Romney over the past month didn't phase it in the least. He did slowly drift downwards about 1 dollar over the course of the month, but at any time when he was in a big scrape if you looked at the running price there would be no signal. Even the Bad Day he had during the "when did you leave Bain" crisis that scared him into doing five interviews in one day didn't show up at intrade. But today....

i49.tinypic.com

A two dollar drop might not sound like much, but for the intrade crowd it's huge.
 
2012-08-08 11:53:00 PM

max_pooper: sno man: Philip Francis Queeg: You know you'd think a guy who enjoys firing people as much as Romney does would be firing some of the obvious idiots on his staff.

You're assuming he actually wants the gig.. Chewing up companies and shiating out profit rainbows for him and his buddies is more his thing. It's what he does. He does it well. These are not the traditional skills of a President.

If you are correct, he sure has spent an awful lot of time running for a position he doesn't even want.

I think he's just arrogant enough to believe that he deserves to be President despite obviously lacking the necessary intelligence and political savvy to be President. Hell he can't even run a campaign for a day without doing something incredibly stupid, how is he supposed to run the executive branch?


I think at some point early on, he probably did think it'd be a cool gig. That they'd be all kinds of ways to turn a buck...
Then as he was becoming the least offensive option for the R's, he figured out how actually hard the job is, and now he's just not all that interested anymore.
 
2012-08-08 11:54:05 PM

Hollie Maea: Jesus Christ on a bicycle, Ann Coulter absolutely lost her shait. I thought Rush's reaction was good. It's so beautiful! WOW.

Link


Wow, what an epic meltdown. And she's one of his supporters!
 
2012-08-08 11:56:46 PM

NickelP: It will be interesting to see what happens after the convention. I almost get the impression obama is holding back until it is too late to get a new candidate.


The Obama campaign must just be laughing their asses off at this point. A Super PAC releases an ad that's barely logical, is completely transparent in its dishonesty, and only barely ties Romney to an event that happened five years after he retroactively retired from Bain. Yet the Romney campaign's response makes an even bigger mess than the original dirty ad. The word "incompetence" doesn't even scratch the surface.

At this point, Obama could release a commercial that asks whether Mitt Romney has ever been convicted of raping a child, and the response from Republicans would be "Convicted? No. Never convicted."
 
2012-08-09 12:01:02 AM

The Jami Turman Fan Club: EighthDay: qorkfiend: Before today, I didn't think there was much chance of them dropping Romney either. Now, though...from the reaction on the right, he may have shifted a number of voters who were apathetic into "Romney? Oh HELL no" territory. The party establishment probably won't try to pressure Romney - at least not immediately - but the rank-and-file will pile on, and they'll have a valid argument in "If we're gonna drop Romney, we have to do it before the convention".

I know a conservative who is going to write in Newt's name rather than vote for Romney.

This guy detests Obama, ObamaCare, the Roberts decision, the stimulus, etc. About the only thing he agrees with Obama on is same-sex marriages. He'd rather throw away his vote to Newt than to vote for Romney.

/Doesn't really matter here in Texas, but the point stands
//Same reason my vote for Obama here in Texas won't matter...

It's not impossible for Obama to win Texas. It would take a hell of a lot of first time Hispanic voters, though.


If it worked the screams of election fraud would be epic in scale, and almost guarantee major voter suppression/Republican turnout in 2014.
 
2012-08-09 12:01:35 AM

NateGrey: [msnbcmedia.msn.com image 600x450]

Hello? Yes this is douche.


img515.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-09 12:02:34 AM

gilgigamesh: Hollie Maea: Jesus Christ on a bicycle, Ann Coulter absolutely lost her shait. I thought Rush's reaction was good. It's so beautiful! WOW.

Link

Wow, what an epic meltdown. And she's one of his supporters!


Coulter supports the GOP but I don't think she was ever a Romney supporter.

I can't imagine how the campaign walks this back other than just changing the subject and lying about the ad.
 
2012-08-09 12:03:05 AM

Aarontology: This is just sad.

The Republican convention is going to introduce us to their real candidate, right?


They had an impossible job. Contrast your candidate who holds almost no values at all, and the values he does hold are probably more liberal than the incumbent.

Lying for months in the face of scrutiny is a logical impossibility. You come away looking like.. Romney.
 
2012-08-09 12:05:51 AM
From the esteemed Eljeffe:

"RomneyBot, RomneyBot,
Does whatever a Romney ought.
Water wet, do take note!
Lemon good, end of quote.
Look out, here comes a Romneybot."
 
2012-08-09 12:09:01 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: gilgigamesh: Hollie Maea: Jesus Christ on a bicycle, Ann Coulter absolutely lost her shait. I thought Rush's reaction was good. It's so beautiful! WOW.

Link

Wow, what an epic meltdown. And she's one of his supporters!

Coulter supports the GOP but I don't think she was ever a Romney supporter.

I can't imagine how the campaign walks this back other than just changing the subject and lying about the ad.


She endorsed him back in November and she's been campaigning for him. Or at least making the rounds for him in conservative media.

I think before she saw the writing on the wall that he'd be the nominee she was as opposed to him as anyone.
 
2012-08-09 12:10:03 AM

Hollie Maea: So, if anyone doubts the damage of this thing....
I've been monitoring the line for Romney's election on intrade.com for quite some time now, and that thing never budges for any single incident. All of the terrible things that happened to Romney over the past month didn't phase it in the least. He did slowly drift downwards about 1 dollar over the course of the month, but at any time when he was in a big scrape if you looked at the running price there would be no signal. Even the Bad Day he had during the "when did you leave Bain" crisis that scared him into doing five interviews in one day didn't show up at intrade. But today....

[i49.tinypic.com image 789x512]

A two dollar drop might not sound like much, but for the intrade crowd it's huge.


Yeah. And Obama's rise is consistent with Romney's fall (or maybe fail is more appropriate)

i66.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-09 12:11:13 AM

Hollie Maea: cchris_39: She's right. Fire her sorry ass.

The problem is, the second he does that, the Democrats immediately start with the "If he can't stand up to Ann Coulter, how will he stand up to_____________?" Also, if he told her to say this, which is likely, then fires her, she might become "disgruntled". It really is hard to overstate how incredibly screwed he is.


Well, apparently Ann is getting pilloried herself for saying the same thing this Saul chick said, earlier, in endorsing the Mittster. Ann is upset at the gameplan Romney appears to be using, for the same reasons Rush was spitting fire today. As for firing her, a couple voices in the wilderness believe that Ms. Saul didn't say her remarks in a vacuum, off the cuff or off script, and agree with you:

From Hot Air:Link

- She's his cotton-pickin' Press Secretary. Someone above her knew what she was going to say, before she said it.
kingsjester on August 8, 2012 at 10:24 PM

- Thank you. The BotPologists are out here pretending that people here don't understand how Campaigns work. This interview was cleared by the Campaign, as was this Line of Defense. You know who knows this? Ann Coulter. That's why she's so upset and is screaming FIRE THE UNDERLING! Because Coulter knows how bad this is and she wants the Campaign, the Hideously Incompetent Campaign, to maintain a shred of Deniability. They knew what Little Bo Peep was going to say, and now they can't throw her under the bus without really looking like a bunch of dirtbags. But we are talking about the Romney Campaign, aren't we now?
victor82 on August 8, 2012 at 10:28 PM


- I really do not understand the outrage being expressed here. Doesn't everyone understand that Romney is responsible for Romneycare, and remains quite proud about that? OF COURSE he will continue to bring it up since he thinks his Individual Mandate is a Conservative Ideal! Voters need to pay attention to their candidates if they don't like being surprised after the damage caused by supporting them is done. America ALWAYS gets the government it DESERVES.
DannoJyd on August 8, 2012 at 10:54 PM

and finally
- The point is that you guys won't be convinced. You will scream that everyone has to back Romney for a second term regardless of what he's done, because the Democrats are worse. More time for what?
sharrukin on August 8, 2012 at 10:03 PM

- This is what the 'Bots like King Gold, BuyDanish, bluegill and other assorted graverobbers will be saying after Romney gets in and bloats government like the Bushtard he is, fails to repeal Obamacare, fills the USG with his cronies, hands out swag and Solyndra Dollars to his campaign contributors and fights undeclared wars overseas using our young men and women as cannon fodder. "You have to give Romney a Second Term! WHAT ABOUT THE SUPREME COURT!" humanahhumanahhumanah....The Establishment Bots sound increasingly like those letters the GOP used to send out in the 1980s that swore up and down that if you didn't send the Republican National Committee FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS BY NEXT WEEK, Teddy Kennedy was going to show up at your front door and claim your youngest daughter as droight d'seigneiur.

The Establishment GOP are swine.

"In all the Galaxy, you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."
victor82 on August 8, 2012 at 10:21 PM
 
2012-08-09 12:14:45 AM

Hollie Maea: Jesus Christ on a bicycle, Ann Coulter absolutely lost her shait. I thought Rush's reaction was good. It's so beautiful! WOW.

Link


I'm sorry, is that Sean Hannity graphic bemoaning the end of civility? Poor Sean. Why won't you libs just be civil? What the fark is wrong with you people? Bunch of uncivilized asshole libs! FARK ALL OF YOU!!!
 
2012-08-09 12:18:20 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Coulter supports the GOP but I don't think she was ever a Romney supporter.


No, she was the very first Romney cheerleader from the far right, way back when he was battling people like Herman Cain. She's been SOLIDLY in his camp.
 
2012-08-09 12:21:36 AM

Hollie Maea: She's been SOLIDLY in his camp.


Solidly in his camp?

"If you don't run Chris Christie, Romney will be the nominee and we'll lose." --Coulter
 
2012-08-09 12:21:41 AM

Boxcutta: Hollie Maea: Jesus Christ on a bicycle, Ann Coulter absolutely lost her shait. I thought Rush's reaction was good. It's so beautiful! WOW.

Link

I'm sorry, is that Sean Hannity graphic bemoaning the end of civility? Poor Sean. Why won't you libs just be civil? What the fark is wrong with you people? Bunch of uncivilized asshole libs! FARK ALL OF YOU!!!


cdn.crooksandliars.com
"MOM! He's fighting BACK!"

2.bp.blogspot.com
"Shut the fark up, pansy. We don't love you."

media.salon.com
"But moooom... he's not supposed to fight back."
 
2012-08-09 12:26:29 AM

Boxcutta: Hollie Maea: Jesus Christ on a bicycle, Ann Coulter absolutely lost her shait. I thought Rush's reaction was good. It's so beautiful! WOW.

Link

I'm sorry, is that Sean Hannity graphic bemoaning the end of civility? Poor Sean. Why won't you libs just be civil? What the fark is wrong with you people? Bunch of uncivilized asshole libs! FARK ALL OF YOU!!!


That was killing me. Hannity has thrown everything but the kitchen sink at Obama. He wouldn't know civil if it tied him down and waterboarded him.
 
2012-08-09 12:27:11 AM

Boxcutta: I'm sorry, is that Sean Hannity graphic bemoaning the end of civility? Poor Sean. Why won't you libs just be civil? What the fark is wrong with you people? Bunch of uncivilized asshole libs! FARK ALL OF YOU!!!


The way he referred to himself in the third person made me think that maybe he watches his own show to see what it says, and isn't entirely aware that he's the guy on it.
 
2012-08-09 12:27:40 AM

Hollie Maea: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Coulter supports the GOP but I don't think she was ever a Romney supporter.

No, she was the very first Romney cheerleader from the far right, way back when he was battling people like Herman Cain. She's been SOLIDLY in his camp.


The Coulter 'Three Cheers For RomneyCare!' February 2012 blog that sealed the deal, that's popped up everywhere on conservative sites this evening. Most are reposting it as proof that Anne is being a hypocrite calling for Saul's firing. Reading this, I don't know about that. I don't know anything about her, but reading this piece now I don't know if Ann is really feeling this or if she was dutifully beating the drum for the presumptive nominee, as part of coming together for the sake of the team.

Parts of it just seem schizo. For the good of the team. You know? It's just a weird vibe. It doesn't feel sincere, it feels like a PR piece.
 
2012-08-09 12:32:13 AM

NateGrey: [msnbcmedia.msn.com image 600x450]

Hello? Yes this is douche.


I loved this a lot.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-09 12:33:38 AM
Romney's staff is playing this HUUUUGE game of fizzbin at him!!

Except on Tuesdays...

Yeaaaahhhh. That HAS to be it!!
 
2012-08-09 12:36:46 AM
Funny. As an Obama supporter I don't see the big problem with saying your signature program would have helped people in need.

If the Romney campaign said something like "There are plenty of jobs available for people who want to work, choices have consequences!" the same people up in arms now would be happy.


Basically it would be better for conservatives for Willard Mitt Romney to say "She deserved to die." rather than "I helped her.".
 
2012-08-09 01:00:23 AM
"You are HATERS if you are against Romney Death panels and
and RomneyCARE because socialized medicine IS our future.

We shall proudly serve to provide as organ donors to Moslems and Congress
who will decide when, and if, we and our children, live.

BEHOLD the Happiest Moment in the GOP Candidate's life:
The Moment of Imposition of DEATH PANELS!"


media.tumblr.com

i470.photobucket.com

/kity lieks truthyness
 
2012-08-09 01:04:31 AM

Aldon: Funny. As an Obama supporter I don't see the big problem with saying your signature program would have helped people in need.

If the Romney campaign said something like "There are plenty of jobs available for people who want to work, choices have consequences!" the same people up in arms now would be happy.


Basically it would be better for conservatives for Willard Mitt Romney to say "She deserved to die." rather than "I helped her.".


It's a bad response on multiple levels. It's actually kind of ridiculous the number of different ways that one statement is bad for the Romney campaign. I won't be surprised if he weathers it, but I don't know how many more fumbles he can take. There have been too many times where he has been set up for an easy win, and then his campaign just blows it. I'm actually starting to pity the guy.
 
2012-08-09 01:12:30 AM

Aldon: Funny. As an Obama supporter I don't see the big problem with saying your signature program would have helped people in need.

If the Romney campaign said something like "There are plenty of jobs available for people who want to work, choices have consequences!" the same people up in arms now would be happy.


Basically it would be better for conservatives for Willard Mitt Romney to say "She deserved to die." rather than "I helped her.".


Romneycare apparently didn't exist when this lady needed help, and there was more to the story anyway. That whole ad situation is a mess, I don't know what the truth of the matter of it is, but it's looking like the Romney dirty politics over the Ohio early vote situation... except it's on behalf of Obama, not against Obama.

The talking point that should have been used was that the ad was wrong, it lied. That's what Rush and Ann were trying to hammer home today when they blew up. It did not represent the truth of the matter, but cut it up in such a way as to make Romney look bad. It was mud slinging, and they were right. Romney, through his press secretary Andrea Saul, didn't go there trying to correct the inappropriate and misleading statements.

The other talking point is that RomneyCare and ObamaCare are hot potatoes within the Republican and tea party movements, and that Romney is only getting the support he's getting which isn't Any Body But Obama directed because of wishful thinking that he's going to force a repeal of ObamaCare. Andrea Saul's comments today dissolve that illusion.

I think some folks are right. I think they're right that Romney wants to make ObamaCare his own baby, in his own image, and the wishful thinkers who believe Romney wants to get rid of ObamaCare never to see the light of day in any form again are wishful thinking fools. He wants his legacy back, and he can't do that with ObamaCare in the way. But how to do that without making RomneyCare look stupid? by talking up RomneyCare. If he were Bill Clinton he would have been able to get away with it. But he's not. He doesn't have Bill's ability to finesse nuances and turn them in his favor.

Bill had to learn, as a poor boy who rose above his station through talent and will. Romney never had to develop those skills, is what it's looking like. When things are going well for Romney, he's cool; but when they are not... that's when a Bill Clinton shines and a Mitt Romney falls.

The political pundits here will be able to explain better how the Obama ad fked up, and why Andrea Saul's comments today snatched defeat from the jaws of victory on that one.
 
2012-08-09 01:16:59 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: how the Obama ad fked up


What Obama Ad? Are you referring to the SuperPAC-under-Citizens-United anti-Romney ad?
 
2012-08-09 01:21:02 AM
This might be the end of Romney's campaign. One of his benefits a few months ago was the ability to reach out and grab moderates. Given how people are reacting to this, it shows he has made absolutely no in-roads with the base which will not allow him to reach out to any needed moderates, if that is even possible at this point in time.

Romney is dead in the water. At this point it's not a question of who he chooses to be VP, but how he's going to fark this up.
 
2012-08-09 01:25:20 AM

Guntram Shatterhand: One of his benefits a few months ago was the ability to reach out and grab moderates


When was this? I missed it?
 
2012-08-09 01:26:39 AM

Guntram Shatterhand: Romney is dead in the water. At this point it's not a question of who he chooses to be VP, but how he's going to fark this up.


Paul Ryan will be Romney's VP savior. It worked for John McCain.
 
2012-08-09 01:28:29 AM

Lawnchair: ExperianScaresCthulhu: how the Obama ad fked up

What Obama Ad? Are you referring to the SuperPAC-under-Citizens-United anti-Romney ad?


Yes, the Soptic ad meant to support Obama and undermine Romney. The one Republicans were going to crow about a smoking gun for when it came to a connection between all three parties (the creators, Mr. Soptic, and the Obama administration) after the Obama administration denied being directly involved with that ad. That would have been their talking point today............

but Andrea Saul, voice of Mitt Romney, kinda sorta fked that up.
 
2012-08-09 01:28:36 AM

Fjornir: Guntram Shatterhand: One of his benefits a few months ago was the ability to reach out and grab moderates

When was this? I missed it?


The conservative wing of the GOP has never liked him, so the only appeal he had, limited though it may have been, was with party moderates.
 
2012-08-09 01:29:58 AM
So Romney makes his first major pivot to the center and it blows up in his face so badly that over 24 hours later there are still no talking points to mitigate the fallout. I ain't even mad, I am impressed.
 
2012-08-09 01:30:45 AM

Hollie Maea: Ann Coulter absolutely lost her shait.


Yes, and that stack of rotting meat is the heart and soul of the GOP ethos.
And to attack this employee of Romney's, that nasty stack of shiat called Mr. Obama "liar" repeatedly without giving any proof or even examples of him being a liar.
The fact that she can get away with it with impunity shows just how far this country has sank into right wing hell.
Remember this shiat next time the GOP wants a pass on their crap.
 
2012-08-09 01:48:10 AM
This keeps flashing in my head with each new gaffe or embarrassing thing that comes out in this freakshow that is the current POTUS campaign.

i46.tinypic.com

/Yes, it's a Scott Pilgrim reference.
 
2012-08-09 01:50:04 AM

Renart: Ha ha, wow! I honestly think I could do a better job running Romney's campaign than the clowns doing it right now.

/But I don't want him to win, so I will not take the job. Don't ask!



www.davidstuff.com

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

-N. Bonaparte
 
2012-08-09 01:53:43 AM
Seriously I think the only smart thing that Romney's done in his campaign was to distance himself from the birthers by saying that Obama is legally the President. Birthers will vote Romney anyway and swing voters don't have to think "well, Romney's not a birther moron."

Then there was that one time when...

Uh..

Well, I'm sure his campaign's done something else smart, right?
 
2012-08-09 02:05:46 AM
Harry_Seldon 2012-08-09 01:26:39 AM

Guntram Shatterhand: Romney is dead in the water. At this point it's not a question of who he chooses to be VP, but how he's going to fark this up.

Paul Ryan will be Romney's VP savior. It worked for John McCain.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-09 02:25:09 AM
I seriously have laughed for like twenty minutes over this.

R-Money's an even worse campaigner than his dad. He should just talk about how our troops in Afghanistan are "brainwashed" to both pay tribute to daddy and end this thing for once and all.
 
2012-08-09 02:26:46 AM

Harry_Seldon: Guntram Shatterhand: Romney is dead in the water. At this point it's not a question of who he chooses to be VP, but how he's going to fark this up.

Paul Ryan will be Romney's VP savior. It worked for John McCain.


You know, some years back I would have said, "The [candidate] and RNC might have some some bizarre and demonstrably failed ideas, but they're not entirely stupid people."

Well, you know how that worked out. So no, a Ryan pick would surprise me as much as a sunrise. Romney himself seems like he has no real say in the matter, and we all know how the GOP's answer to everything is to keep doing more of the same stupid sh*t because this time it will work...
 
2012-08-09 02:36:53 AM

phamwaa: Really, who in their right mind would vote for Mr. Romney?
Really, who in their right mind would vote for Mr. Obama?



The lessor of two evils IS still the lessor of two evils. Math dictates that failing to support the lessor is actively supporting the greater.

(shrug) Your choice.
 
2012-08-09 02:43:29 AM
Oh wow, this is getting to be like punching a slow kid, embarrassing.
 
2012-08-09 02:52:54 AM

numb3r5ev3n: This keeps flashing in my head with each new gaffe or embarrassing thing that comes out in this freakshow that is the current POTUS campaign.

[i46.tinypic.com image 288x419]

/Yes, it's a Scott Pilgrim reference.


So, he's gonna pee on who now? Saul or Coulter? Or Palin? YOU CANNOT UNTHINK IT.
 
2012-08-09 02:54:31 AM

grxymkjbn: The lessor of two evils IS still the lessor of two evils. Math dictates that failing to support the lessor is actively supporting the greater.

(shrug) Your choice.


Man, in this economy, who but Governor Romney's ilk can afford two evils to lease out beyond the evils in which one resides? Math be damned, failing to support evil's lessor is tantamount to defaulting on one's own rent, not to supporting... well, anything at all. And shouldn't that be "greator"?

/Sorry, I know I'm being pedantic and annoying, but I was genuinely confused the first two times I read your post.
 
2012-08-09 03:19:37 AM
But i'm pretty sure Obama is black.
 
2012-08-09 03:31:36 AM

Guntram Shatterhand: Romney is dead in the water. At this point it's not a question of who he chooses to be VP, but how he's going to fark this up.


At this point it's not a question of whom he chooses, it's a question of who is crazy enough to accept.

Romney/Nugent 2012?
 
2012-08-09 04:17:58 AM
I've been thinking about the drop in the polls (according to Nate Silver) that Romney is experiencing... I have a question.

What happens if Romney wins, despite every bit of evidence to the contrary that he will do so? What do we do then?
 
2012-08-09 04:22:07 AM

James F. Campbell: I've been thinking about the drop in the polls (according to Nate Silver) that Romney is experiencing... I have a question.

What happens if Romney wins, despite every bit of evidence to the contrary that he will do so? What do we do then?


Practice our hilarious medieval serf accents.
 
2012-08-09 04:29:22 AM

LordJiro: Practice our hilarious medieval serf accents.


Oh but if I went around, saying I was Emperor just because some moistened bint lobbed a lemon at me, they'd put me away. And that's no good.
 
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