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2012-08-08 04:09:07 PM  
Yeah. This is creepy
 
2012-08-08 04:28:16 PM  
Heh.
Brave New Fascism.
Nowhere to hide, kids.
 
2012-08-08 04:29:27 PM  
I see Google still hasn't learned their lesson from Google Desktop.
 
2012-08-08 04:30:32 PM  
Here we find a convincing argument to keep the Postal Service from going out of business. Unless you like a third party collecting all of your personal correspondence and integrating it into a searchable database? Because there is absolutely no way that anybody would try to abuse or misuse that database. Right?
 
2012-08-08 04:30:57 PM  
How about no.
 
2012-08-08 04:33:51 PM  
It's not that it's creepy, it's that it needs a clear and easy way to turn it off.

I pay greplin $5 per month to search through many of my cloud accounts simultaneously (which of course means greplin owns me).

It sounds similar to what happens on Android search.
 
2012-08-08 04:34:04 PM  
Y'know, I needed an excuse to try using Outlook.com as my primary for a while.

Right on cue. Thanks, Google!
 
2012-08-08 04:34:56 PM  
Protip: they already collect and index your correspondence. That's why you can search your gmail.

That said, I'd rather not have my email search results displayed next to web search results, in case I am searching for something for somebody looking over my shoulder.
 
2012-08-08 04:35:56 PM  

MrEricSir: I see Google still hasn't learned their lesson from Google Desktop.


I would say that with Google Drive and this new ability, they have pushed Google Desktop's search (which I didn't like) into the cloud as well.

www.gstatic.com
 
2012-08-08 04:36:04 PM  

RoyBatty: It's not that it's creepy, it's that it needs a clear and easy way to turn it off.

I pay greplin $5 per month to search through many of my cloud accounts simultaneously (which of course means greplin owns me).

It sounds similar to what happens on Android search.


Looks like it can be turned off without too much hassle
 
2012-08-08 04:37:11 PM  
Did any of you actually read the article? It's integrating the two searches after login. It doesn't mean Joe Sixpack surfing for porn at his local library can see any porn related emails of yours. You people are truly pathetically paranoidically retarded.
 
2012-08-08 04:41:04 PM  

red5ish: Unless you like a third party collecting all of your personal correspondence and integrating it into a searchable database? Because there is absolutely no way that anybody would try to abuse or misuse that database. Right?


Then don't use it. You don't have to use GMail. I remember when I got an invite and signed up (throwaway account for signing up for stuff online)... I do not remember the invite mentioning that I was legally obligated to use gmail.
 
2012-08-08 04:41:36 PM  

I_C_Weener: Yeah. This is creepy


I don't see how it's "creepy"... It's just a window away from opening Gmail and searching there. Sure, being able to turn it off is nice, but really, don't just stay logged into Google 24/7, and you'll be fine. As long as you keep your account info safe and don't wander off at work while logged in, there's nothing "creepy" about it, they are just joining 2 different sets of search results and putting it into one place.
 
2012-08-08 04:43:06 PM  

Cymbal: Did any of you actually read the article? It's integrating the two searches after login. It doesn't mean Joe Sixpack surfing for porn at his local library can see any porn related emails of yours. You people are truly pathetically paranoidically retarded.


What's with the paranoia over this stuff. While I wouldn't find this useful... they're relaying information that's private to you, to.... you! And only you.
 
2012-08-08 04:43:46 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Heh.
Brave New Fascism.
Nowhere to hide, kids.


And this is 'Fascism'---How, exactly?

Definition of FASCISM

1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
 
2012-08-08 04:44:09 PM  

Cymbal: Did any of you actually read the article? It's integrating the two searches after login. It doesn't mean Joe Sixpack surfing for porn at his local library can see any porn related emails of yours. You people are truly pathetically paranoidically retarded.


+1!
 
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2012-08-08 04:44:33 PM  

Cymbal: You people are truly pathetically paranoidically retarded.


"Oh noes! I've been able to search my gmail account for 7 years now! And now those results also appear on my web search results page if I'm logged in! Google is stealing my emails!"

Yawn.
 
2012-08-08 04:45:48 PM  
This is going to make my internet searches for "Windows" a little awkward due to all those months I spent registered for "nudemulesinwindows.com"
 
2012-08-08 04:58:55 PM  

Cymbal: Did any of you actually read the article? It's integrating the two searches after login. It doesn't mean Joe Sixpack surfing for porn at his local library can see any porn related emails of yours. You people are truly pathetically paranoidically retarded.


You're missing the point -- people correlate Google Search with searching the web. When their e-mail starts popping up in those results, it's terrifying for those who aren't technically savvy enough to understand what's going on.

It's just a poor UI decision on Google's part, that's all.
 
2012-08-08 05:00:45 PM  
Really, who cares about my email? I buy watches and videogames from Amazon. I play in fantasy football leagues. I get spam about Viagra. I tell my parents about my life and say that I love them.

The specifics may change, but my email is the same as everyone else's. Anyone terrified that their electronic data is going to compromise their individuality really has a high opinion of themselves. We'll all be dust in a few decades, plants a little while after that, other people eventually maybe, and stardust in a few eons, starting all over again on some other rock somewhere. So, like, if Gmail wants to record that I'm thinking about a vacation, well, go for it. Who cares.
 
2012-08-08 05:01:54 PM  

MrEricSir: Cymbal: Did any of you actually read the article? It's integrating the two searches after login. It doesn't mean Joe Sixpack surfing for porn at his local library can see any porn related emails of yours. You people are truly pathetically paranoidically retarded.

You're missing the point -- people correlate Google Search with searching the web. When their e-mail starts popping up in those results, it's terrifying for those who aren't technically savvy enough to understand what's going on.

It's just a poor UI decision on Google's part, that's all.


I could agree with you there. I think the whole thing is stupid all around, and indeed creepy to those that don't understand that they're logged in- alone- on Google, and no one else can see your data.
 
2012-08-08 05:09:17 PM  

MrEricSir: Cymbal: Did any of you actually read the article? It's integrating the two searches after login. It doesn't mean Joe Sixpack surfing for porn at his local library can see any porn related emails of yours. You people are truly pathetically paranoidically retarded.

You're missing the point -- people correlate Google Search with searching the web. When their e-mail starts popping up in those results, it's terrifying for those who aren't technically savvy enough to understand what's going on.

It's just a poor UI decision on Google's part, that's all.


There are a plethora of morons out there, but it won't take them long to figure out their emails only come up in the search if they are logged into gmail. Their outrage will be extremely short lived.
 
2012-08-08 05:27:39 PM  

Cymbal: Did any of you actually read the article? It's integrating the two searches after login. It doesn't mean Joe Sixpack surfing for porn at his local library can see any porn related emails of yours. You people are truly pathetically paranoidically retarded.


I think it's just starting to dawn on many that all their GMail correspondence is sitting on Google servers and that Google can and does "do things" with it. Not a big revelation to many of us, but I'm sure it is to some. This is why I don't use online services like GMail for anything but inconsequential and throwaway accounts. At least when "they" come for me, "they" will have to work a tiny bit harder to get my email than rolling over some noodle-spined oafs at Google or the like.
 
2012-08-08 05:33:16 PM  

Mikey1969: HotIgneous Intruder: Heh.
Brave New Fascism.
Nowhere to hide, kids.

And this is 'Fascism'---How, exactly?

Definition of FASCISM

1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control


Knowldege. It be power.
Or haven't you heard?
 
2012-08-08 06:52:15 PM  
want, do not.
 
2012-08-08 07:12:32 PM  
At this point it's an opt-in, not a "we're doing this and you have to opt-out,' like Buzz. I'll keep an eye on it, though. Generally, I do not do my Google searches while logged in anyway. I log in to manage my e-mail and if I need to do intensive calendar updates (like enter my kid's school calendar events for the upcoming school year), and then log out for search, surfing, etc.
 
2012-08-08 07:22:32 PM  
I log in to Gmail, and when I'm done, I log out, clear my cache, and deny tracking cookies.

This thing isn't that invasive, but I don't want to give anymore information about myself than I already do. Google is still the least evil data company out there.
 
2012-08-08 10:21:02 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Heh.
Brave New Fascism.
Nowhere to hide, kids.


guess you didn't read the article...its opt-in and you can turn it off at any time. EHRMAGHERD MUSSOLINI HITLER!
 
2012-08-08 10:33:40 PM  

Lsherm: This is going to make my internet searches for "Windows" a little awkward due to all those months I spent registered for "nudemulesinwindows.com"


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-08 11:41:02 PM  
What are these ads you speak of?!

right click -> ad block -> block this ad = best thing EVER!! shiatty irritating lightbox? Blocked. Anything annoying on your website? Blocked!

It's still a bit shocking to see the interwebs through someone else's browser. I really should donate to Chrome AdBlock. They make browsing the web fun.
 
2012-08-08 11:56:55 PM  
Meh. What's the difference between this and using the Gmail GUI's search tool?

No big deal.
 
2012-08-09 12:08:45 AM  

divx88: I really should donate to Chrome AdBlock.


Chrome makes an Adblocker? How odd, considering that Google makes Chrome, and ads are quite literally Google's lifeblood. Its like Superman extolling the virtues of green kryptonite.

/Mozilla + ABP + Flashblock + Noscript FTW
 
2012-08-09 12:56:00 AM  

Funbags: divx88: I really should donate to Chrome AdBlock.

Chrome makes an Adblocker? How odd, considering that Google makes Chrome, and ads are quite literally Google's lifeblood. Its like Superman extolling the virtues of green kryptonite.

/Mozilla + ABP + Flashblock + Noscript FTW


Way to be pedantic
 
2012-08-09 03:31:43 AM  

redmid17: Funbags: divx88: I really should donate to Chrome AdBlock.

Chrome makes an Adblocker? How odd, considering that Google makes Chrome, and ads are quite literally Google's lifeblood. Its like Superman extolling the virtues of green kryptonite.

/Mozilla + ABP + Flashblock + Noscript FTW

Way to be pedantic


Also, it insists on itself.
 
2012-08-09 06:07:17 AM  

I_C_Weener: Yeah. This is creepy


How is this creepy? Maybe I'm missing something, but so far I've only come up with "Including results from my Gmail account might be handy."
 
2012-08-09 06:26:40 AM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Mikey1969: HotIgneous Intruder: Heh.
Brave New Fascism.
Nowhere to hide, kids.

And this is 'Fascism'---How, exactly?

Definition of FASCISM

1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2
: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

Knowldege. It be power.
Or haven't you heard?


Translation: "I don't know what Fascism is."
 
2012-08-09 06:39:23 AM  

RadioAaron: Meh. What's the difference between this and using the Gmail GUI's search tool?

No big deal.


It's NEW-FANGLED, it's EVIL. I'm soooo going back to Yahoo! mail.

/anyone ever say 'cockforhire6­9[nospam-﹫-backwards]ooh­ay*co­m' (or the likes) when shop assistants ask for email addresses after your purchase?

It's funny, especially when you spell it out letter by letter without saying it first.
 
2012-08-09 09:29:23 AM  

Cormee: RadioAaron: Meh. What's the difference between this and using the Gmail GUI's search tool?

No big deal.

It's NEW-FANGLED, it's EVIL. I'm soooo going back to Yahoo! mail.

/anyone ever say 'cockforhire69[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]oohay[* image 7x13]com' (or the likes) when shop assistants ask for email addresses after your purchase?
i>

i usually respond with "gofark at yourself .... dot com".
although this one hottie at a boutique i told her it was niceboots at wannafark.com.... she tightned her lips so small her mouth disappeared.

 
2012-08-09 10:18:57 AM  
I don't really see the value. If I want to search my email, I'll search my email. If I want to search outside of my account, I'll use the normal internet search engine. there is never a moment where I would want both simultaneously.

It's like deciding your going to do research on 20th century process philosophy and you pick up a Whitehead's Process and Reality and start daydreaming about your own thoughts, or trying to turn the words on the page into anagrams for tomorrow's conference call with accounting.
 
2012-08-09 10:32:47 AM  

Cymbal: There are a plethora of morons out there, but it won't take them long to figure out their emails only come up in the search if they are logged into gmail. Their outrage will be extremely short lived.


You seem extremely unfamiliar with the nature of morons. For a lot of people, the computer IS "the internet", and what's on the screen is "their email". Always.
 
2012-08-09 11:13:09 AM  
Your email isn't being searched by others, they are just integrating your emails into your other search results.

It's like a one stop shop to search everything. I personally think it's a good idea.
 
2012-08-09 11:16:59 AM  

Funbags: divx88: I really should donate to Chrome AdBlock.

Chrome makes an Adblocker? How odd, considering that Google makes Chrome, and ads are quite literally Google's lifeblood. Its like Superman extolling the virtues of green kryptonite.

/Mozilla + ABP + Flashblock + Noscript FTW


ABP has a chrome version. Not sure about the other two because I don't use them
 
2012-08-09 12:13:42 PM  

Mr Guy: Cymbal: There are a plethora of morons out there, but it won't take them long to figure out their emails only come up in the search if they are logged into gmail. Their outrage will be extremely short lived.

You seem extremely unfamiliar with the nature of morons. For a lot of people, the computer IS "the internet", and what's on the screen is "their email". Always.


"I can't find my Word on Google."
"What word are you looking for?"
"Word!"
"...."
"I'm looking for WORD!"
"Do you mean Microsoft Word?"
"YES"
"Why are you looking for it on Google?"
"It used to be there, and now it's not!"
"Can you show me what you're talking about?"
(Points to screen)
"That's your taskbar. It just got unpinned."

/yes, I had that conversation once
//had my first drink in months after that
///yes, some people do think their entire computer is Google
 
2012-08-09 12:41:42 PM  

RoyBatty: I pay greplin $5 per month to search through many of my cloud accounts simultaneously (which of course means greplin owns me).


www.solfulwellcoach.com
 
2012-08-09 01:26:05 PM  
>using your real name on a free email service
>2012

Shiggidy diggidy do-wop do wiggy
 
2012-08-09 02:12:34 PM  

Flying Code Monkey: Y'know, I needed an excuse to try using Outlook.com as my primary for a while.

Right on cue. Thanks, Google!


I actually have done so...not going back. MUCH cleaner interface.
 
2012-08-09 02:19:44 PM  
Boss looking over shoulder, "What is BIE?"
 
2012-08-11 02:32:14 AM  
downstairs: What's with the paranoia over this stuff. While I wouldn't find this useful... they're relaying information that's private to you, to.... you! And only you.

I don't know about you, but when I'm showing someone else a google search (IE, someone is looking at my screen), I don't want snippets of my mail showing up on the page.
 
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