If I were a CEO of some huge corporation, I would just keep my mouth shut and donate to groups that would be considered to be neutral (i.e. Civil War historical centers, Computers for Kids in Africa, Gates Foundation, etc). These leaders who take these kinds of stands put their corporations in jeopardy.

Where can I shop and/or eat that will express my general contempt for humanity rather than just one specific segment of it?

Sybarite: Where can I shop and/or eat that will express my general contempt for humanity rather than just one specific segment of it?

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So, I went to the Boston Pride Parade a few months ago, and since marriage equality is old hat here, it was actually rather boring. Churches, youth groups, politicians, middles schools etc. A few sparkly drag queens, but not the teeming mass of pulsing young sodomites and glittery naked twinks that I was hoping for.

Anyway, one of the groups was a roofer or general contractor or something, in his work truck, handing out keychains or some such tchotcky. It was a little odd. The parade stops for a minute and the guy yells out? "Why are we in this parade? Because we want your business".

I loled.

I'm not seeing the problem with Target giving 150K to suck up to the potential governor of the state where your company is headquartered (besides the normal pissed I have about companies doing that sort of thing). Supporting the gay community is fine, but a corporation DOES have a duty to maximize profit, and sucking up for political favors is an easy way to cut one's tax liability.

BunkoSquad: Sybarite: Where can I shop and/or eat that will express my general contempt for humanity rather than just one specific segment of it?

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LOL.

The My Little Pony Killer: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I'm not seeing the problem with Target giving 150K to suck up to the potential governor of the state where your company is headquartered (besides the normal pissed I have about companies doing that sort of thing). Supporting the gay community is fine, but a corporation DOES have a duty to maximize profit, and sucking up for political favors is an easy way to cut one's tax liability.

When you give money and support to a politician, you're also giving money and support to the things they support.

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Not necessarily. Sometimes they're just whores.

what_now: So, I went to the Boston Pride Parade a few months ago, and since marriage equality is old hat here, it was actually rather boring. Churches, youth groups, politicians, middles schools etc. A few sparkly drag queens, but not the teeming mass of pulsing young sodomites and glittery naked twinks that I was hoping for.


Strangely, I had the same experience recently.... at the Houston Pride Parade.

Churches, businesses, and politicians. Very family oriented. Most notably, the mayor of Houston is the first openly lesbian mayor of a major American city. She was in the parade with her partner.

Yes, that Houston. The one in Texas.

cman: If I were a CEO of some huge corporation, I would just keep my mouth shut and donate to groups that would be considered to be neutral (i.e. Civil War historical centers, Computers for Kids in Africa, Gates Foundation, etc). These leaders who take these kinds of stands put their corporations in jeopardy.

Excuse me... War of Northern Aggression is the proper term.

_{/Please calibrate your sarcasm detectors.}

GAT_00: Off the top of my head, you should shop at Home Depot over Lowe's if you can due to their support of equality for all. Dominoes and Papa Johns are both questionable in their actions at times.

I spend my money where I feel I am best served in product and service. Kind of a strange concept but you should try it sometime.

what_now: So, I went to the Boston Pride Parade a few months ago, and since marriage equality is old hat here, it was actually rather boring. Churches, youth groups, politicians, middles schools etc. A few sparkly drag queens, but not the teeming mass of pulsing young sodomites and glittery naked twinks that I was hoping for.

The New Orleans ones are absolutely what you'd be looking for. Not gay myself... but damn, they know how to throw a party down here. Southern Decadence is a total blast. Absolutely not family friendly though. It *is* hilarious to see the families that came down during that week and had no idea that Southern Decadence was going down.

Starbucks? Hey, I'm glad they support same-sex marriage, but I sure as hell am not going to drink their swill to prove it.

The My Little Pony Killer: When you give money and support to a politician, you're also giving money and support to the things they support.

Then I (or my business) can't really support any candidate, ever. Because I promise you every single one has some sort of stance I'm against.

This is why I do my "boycotting" privately. Hell, I work for a big, evil corporation that does things I don't like.

After a certain size/sphere of influence it's impossible to find one that does everything perfectly according to your own tastes/values/etc. It's even worse when you learn your favorite little company actually rolls up to some gigantic parent entity.

Exercise personal choice when you can. Make your opinions known. But make sure to set your expectations appropriately. True change is hard to come by. No matter how many hot kissing lesbians you throw at the problem.

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downstairs: what_now: So, I went to the Boston Pride Parade a few months ago, and since marriage equality is old hat here, it was actually rather boring. Churches, youth groups, politicians, middles schools etc. A few sparkly drag queens, but not the teeming mass of pulsing young sodomites and glittery naked twinks that I was hoping for.

The New Orleans ones are absolutely what you'd be looking for. Not gay myself... but damn, they know how to throw a party down here. Southern Decadence is a total blast. Absolutely not family friendly though. It *is* hilarious to see the families that came down during that week and had no idea that Southern Decadence was going down.

Southern Decadence isn't a pride parade. Its more of a straight up fark fest.

Its funny that the gay bars at the lavender line (Oz and Bourbon Pub) have to put up signs in the door that warn: "This is a GAY bar. Be nice or leave."

Apparently, every year, a few totally hetero not gay at all very straight tourists manage to obliviously wade their way through all that naked gay manflesh on Bourbon, fight their way into Oz, and suddenly realizing they are in a gay bar, take a swing at the nearest queen to show how totally unaroused and not gay they are.

I'm pretty POed that I'm going to stop going to Curves on principle.

gilgigamesh: Strangely, I had the same experience recently.... at the Houston Pride Parade.

Churches, businesses, and politicians. Very family oriented. Most notably, the mayor of Houston is the first openly lesbian mayor of a major American city. She was in the parade with her partner.

Yes, that Houston. The one in Texas.

Also, she's in her second term.

Shocking, I know.

gilgigamesh: Southern Decadence isn't a pride parade. Its more of a straight up fark fest.

That may be the first time I have ever heard/read the word "straight" in any context being used to describe Southern Decadence.

gilgigamesh: downstairs: what_now: So, I went to the Boston Pride Parade a few months ago, and since marriage equality is old hat here, it was actually rather boring. Churches, youth groups, politicians, middles schools etc. A few sparkly drag queens, but not the teeming mass of pulsing young sodomites and glittery naked twinks that I was hoping for.

The New Orleans ones are absolutely what you'd be looking for. Not gay myself... but damn, they know how to throw a party down here. Southern Decadence is a total blast. Absolutely not family friendly though. It *is* hilarious to see the families that came down during that week and had no idea that Southern Decadence was going down.

Southern Decadence isn't a pride parade. Its more of a straight up fark fest.

Its funny that the gay bars at the lavender line (Oz and Bourbon Pub) have to put up signs in the door that warn: "This is a GAY bar. Be nice or leave."

Apparently, every year, a few totally hetero not gay at all very straight tourists manage to obliviously wade their way through all that naked gay manflesh on Bourbon, fight their way into Oz, and suddenly realizing they are in a gay bar, take a swing at the nearest queen to show how totally unaroused and not gay they are.

Huh... really? I can imagine that happening, though I've never seen it. I mean, its painfully obvious to know a bar is a gay bar on Bourbon. In The Marigny, not so much. I tend to stay out of the gay bars on Bourbon lately... they're SO FRIGGIN' LOUD... even at noon on a weekday. Guess I'm getting old.

A good half of my friends are gay, so I end up at Bourbon Pub from time to time. I know my ears don't work as well as they used to... but damn, I can't hold any sort of conversation without asking people to repeat everything they say there.

downstairs: Huh... really? I can imagine that happening, though I've never seen it. I mean, its painfully obvious to know a bar is a gay bar on Bourbon. In The Marigny, not so much. I tend to stay out of the gay bars on Bourbon lately... they're SO FRIGGIN' LOUD... even at noon on a weekday. Guess I'm getting old.

Tell me about it. My buddy comes down from NYC to visit occasionally. He's a Tulane alum, and both he and a guy he went to school with came out after college (late bloomers). When he comes out they go out one night and gay it up or whatever; I let them go do their own thing because this guy is apparently like Norm from Cheers at the Bourbon Pub. I used to go pretty frequently back in the day, but now.... you know. Middle age. My back hurts from all this standing around, this music is too loud and anyway what's with these damn kids. Etcetera.

Anyway, my friend was here at Jazz Fest and after his routine rendezvous at the BP, he came back biatching about his tinnitus. It more or less ruined the rest of his trip. We still had a good time, but he couldn't get high because that made it worse, and the constant ringing in his ears pretty much ruined any music we would hear.

Long story short: gay or straight, getting old blows.

Curves
Gary Heavin, founder of women-only fitness chain, has written checks to outfits promoting abstinence-only programs for teens. Heavin also withdrew his funding of the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation and its Race for the Cure because the foundation supports Planned Parenthood.

It's creepy that a man with apparent disdain for women is in charge of a women-only gym.

GAT_00: Do you know what it's like to NOT be butthurt? You're always pissed about everything.

What the ever loving fark are you babbling about? I'm not the one that won't spend money with a company because of who they choose to donate to. Let me show you an example of someone who is all butthurt and angry over what a company does with their profits:

GAT_00: you should shop at Home Depot over Lowe's if you can due to their support of equality for all.

Me? I spend my money where I am best served by product and service and I'm usually very satisfied at the outcome which...get this...makes me happy and my life quite enjoyable. I suppose I could spend all kinds of time looking for companies that GAT_00: support of equality for all but where's the fun in that?

sweetmelissa31: Curves
Gary Heavin, founder of women-only fitness chain, has written checks to outfits promoting abstinence-only programs for teens. Heavin also withdrew his funding of the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation and its Race for the Cure because the foundation supports Planned Parenthood.

It's creepy that a man with apparent disdain for women is in charge of a women-only gym.

Since abstinence only education always means more pregnancies, that means more future customers.

gilgigamesh: Long story short: gay or straight, getting old blows.

I'm looking for a replacement body already.

gilgigamesh: downstairs: Huh... really? I can imagine that happening, though I've never seen it. I mean, its painfully obvious to know a bar is a gay bar on Bourbon. In The Marigny, not so much. I tend to stay out of the gay bars on Bourbon lately... they're SO FRIGGIN' LOUD... even at noon on a weekday. Guess I'm getting old.

Tell me about it. My buddy comes down from NYC to visit occasionally. He's a Tulane alum, and both he and a guy he went to school with came out after college (late bloomers). When he comes out they go out one night and gay it up or whatever; I let them go do their own thing because this guy is apparently like Norm from Cheers at the Bourbon Pub. I used to go pretty frequently back in the day, but now.... you know. Middle age. My back hurts from all this standing around, this music is too loud and anyway what's with these damn kids. Etcetera.

Anyway, my friend was here at Jazz Fest and after his routine rendezvous at the BP, he came back biatching about his tinnitus. It more or less ruined the rest of his trip. We still had a good time, but he couldn't get high because that made it worse, and the constant ringing in his ears pretty much ruined any music we would hear.

Long story short: gay or straight, getting old blows.

It's definitely a drag.

gilgigamesh: Long story short: gay or straight, getting old blows.

It does, but it still beats the only alternative.

GAT_00: Well at least you're open about not caring about companies buying GOP legislators to oppress people for not being white, straight and Christian

Do you know what it's like to NOT be butthurt? You're always pissed about everything. Maybe you should try enjoying life for a change.

MacEnvy: I feel I am best serviced by an inclusive and equitable society, but that probably a pretty petty attitude.

Good for you.

MacEnvy: I should just go for who delivers the fastest.

He who delivers the fastest isn't always the bestest. Just ask your girlfriend.

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I'm not seeing the problem with Target giving 150K to suck up to the potential governor of the state where your company is headquartered (besides the normal pissed I have about companies doing that sort of thing). Supporting the gay community is fine, but a corporation DOES have a duty to maximize profit, and sucking up for political favors is an easy way to cut one's tax liability.

They farked up their message with that one. I would have just sent out a letter "as the corporation" pretending to be a sentient being and telling people that "I donate money to candidates that will help me live the longest. Why do you want me to die?" Then I would accuse everyone who was giving me shiat of supporting compicide.

Dancin_In_Anson: GAT_00: Well at least you're open about not caring about companies buying GOP legislators to oppress people for not being white, straight and Christian

Do you know what it's like to NOT be butthurt? You're always pissed about everything. Maybe you should try enjoying life for a change.

Girls, girls.

You're BOTH pretty.

I refuse to patron a business until I receive signed and notarized financial disclosure forms from every employee, shareholder, and boss demonstrating that not a single penny has gone to something I may find personally objectionable.

I also require them to show me their supply chains to make sure they aren't purchasing anything from a company that I may find personally objectionable. And I demand financial disclosure forms from those employees and shareholders too.

I think I'm going to get a Papa John's pizza and put some Chick-fil-A nuggets on it, just to see if it tastes like oppression. Beautiful, savory oppression.

GAT_00: Impressive, you can copy what I wrote.

The big question is do you understand what you wrote?

Nabb1: I think I'm going to get a Papa John's pizza and put some Chick-fil-A nuggets on it, just to see if it tastes like oppression. Beautiful, savory oppression.

Papa John's pizza tastes like oppression no matter what their political views are.

sweetmelissa31: Nabb1: I think I'm going to get a Papa John's pizza and put some Chick-fil-A nuggets on it, just to see if it tastes like oppression. Beautiful, savory oppression.

Papa John's pizza tastes like oppression no matter what their political views are.

I think there are pieces of chopped up political dissidents in the sauce.

GAT_00: Papa John's pizza tastes like oppression no matter what their political views are.

I didn't know oppression tasted like nasty pizza sauce.

Yeah, oppression basically tastes like sugar with red food coloring.

Nabb1: I think I'm going to get a Papa John's pizza and put some Chick-fil-A nuggets on it, just to see if it tastes like oppression. Beautiful, savory oppression.

There's a good Mexican joint in Abilene that I'm going to hit up tonight. Not sure that I give a flying fark what the owner's political views are and I don't think that I care. I do know that the beer is cold, they have a killer hot sauce and the service is great! Chances are I'll enjoy my meal immensely. I expect a very enjoyable time!

I suppose I could call the owner and ask him if he is all about an inclusive and equitable society and if he's not I could call around and ask the next one and the next one until I find one that does regardless of how the food or service is. I may not have an enjoyable evening...up to the point of being butthurt over it but like I said, Dancin_In_Anson: where's the fun in that?

Dancin_In_Anson: Nabb1: I think I'm going to get a Papa John's pizza and put some Chick-fil-A nuggets on it, just to see if it tastes like oppression. Beautiful, savory oppression.

There's a good Mexican joint in Abilene that I'm going to hit up tonight. Not sure that I give a flying fark what the owner's political views are and I don't think that I care. I do know that the beer is cold, they have a killer hot sauce and the service is great! Chances are I'll enjoy my meal immensely. I expect a very enjoyable time!

I suppose I could call the owner and ask him if he is all about an inclusive and equitable society and if he's not I could call around and ask the next one and the next one until I find one that does regardless of how the food or service is. I may not have an enjoyable evening...up to the point of being butthurt over it but like I said, Dancin_In_Anson: where's the fun in that?

I'm sorry, I just don't know how you are capable of enjoying a meal without having your political beliefs validated by your consumer purchases.

Nabb1: I'm sorry, I just don't know how you are capable of enjoying a meal without having your political beliefs validated by your consumer purchases.

or you know, knowing whether or not your literal dollars are going to hate groups

totally the same though, just some feel-good libby lib white guilt BS