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2012-08-08 02:11:09 PM
Insta-green

/Unlike my lawn
 
2012-08-08 02:16:37 PM
July was the hottest month in the history of ever.

Ever huh? Little did we know that history started in the last 100 years.
 
2012-08-08 02:16:37 PM
I wonder if when they started keeping the records every day they said "Today was the hottest/coldest day in recorded history"
 
2012-08-08 02:21:37 PM

PacificaFitz: I wonder if when they started keeping the records every day they said "Today was the hottest/coldest day in recorded history"


Peter Gibbons: So I was sitting in my cubicle today, and I realized, ever since I started working, every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So that means that every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life.
Dr. Swanson: What about today? Is today the worst day of your life?
Peter Gibbons: Yeah.
Dr. Swanson: Wow, that's messed up.
 
2012-08-08 02:24:32 PM
This has nothing to do with global warming, only the realization that the political heat is turning up in Washington and radiating across the country as the reign of Taxbongo Obamaluke comes to a close. Expect the country to rapidly cool down sometime around December.
 
2012-08-08 02:27:48 PM
Everyone knows it just feels hotter because we're so fat now.
 
2012-08-08 02:28:31 PM
Meanwhile, in Britain....

Will we ever get a summer? Who knows? Forecasters are reluctant to go into too much detail for more than 48 hours ahead and the Met Office is extremely cautious in its look ahead to the end of September.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jul/10/forecasters-predictions-summ e r-rain-july

It's more of a polar oscillation thang, really....

/it will flip cold after I've moved to New Hampshire and haven't bought a snowblower yet
 
2012-08-08 02:28:33 PM
What cooling?

s9.postimage.org


/preemptive graph
 
2012-08-08 02:34:06 PM
ONLY 77.6 degrees?!?!

I hate the Texas heat. I'm sure our July average in the D/FW area was 101.

/I guess when you factor night temps into the average this is pretty warm.
 
2012-08-08 02:38:46 PM
Supposed to be over 100 for the next week here

/we call that "August"
 
2012-08-08 02:43:47 PM
Wasn't the hottest up here in the Pacific NW, not by a long shot. Which is just fine by me. We actually just had our first day of the summer over 90 degrees this past weekend in PDX. Too hot for me. I'll take the cool mid-70s we are having today thank you.
 
2012-08-08 02:45:22 PM
I beg to differ. We didn't even have a proper summer in CT. It went hot for a couple of days and that's it. I went to the beach on the other day and it was colder than my wife on a bad day
 
2012-08-08 02:50:17 PM

HighZoolander: What cooling?

[s9.postimage.org image 640x480]


/preemptive graph


Hey, look on the bright side: Another year or two of this, the cherry-picked 13.5 year graph will no longer show cooling, and all of the deniers will have to start picking a new arbitrary starting point for their graphs. Maybe even this year!

/ Okay, so some ecosystems are farked and a bunch of poor people in coastal regions are going to get really screwed, but hey...
 
2012-08-08 02:54:28 PM
So it took 75 years to beat the record and by 0.2 degrees. What was 1936's excuse for multi-year drought and above average temperature? Certainly not 6 billion people all burning fossil fuels causing the end of the world.
 
2012-08-08 02:55:57 PM
my lawn looks like shredded wheat. it's in the upper 90s here today and i'm excited because it's so cool.
 
2012-08-08 03:13:57 PM
This story is about the Lower 48 states, not the globe. The United States is 6% of the area of the globe, but that includes the 16% of the United States that is Alaska, which had a colder than average July. So if there was ever a story about weather != climate, this is probably it.

/it's probably getting warmer
//CO2 is probably a contributing factor to that
///GCMs are a joke
////we aren't all going to die
 
2012-08-08 03:33:53 PM

justGreg: ////we aren't all going to die


Wrong. We are all going to die, and sooner than we'd all like.
All of this apocalyptic nonsense is just a projection of mortality becoming real to so many boomers.
Yes, I blame the boomers for these idiotic memes.
 
2012-08-08 03:38:34 PM
It ain't over yet.
 
2012-08-08 03:45:08 PM

wildstarr: ONLY 77.6 degrees?!?!

I hate the Texas heat. I'm sure our July average in the D/FW area was 101.

/I guess when you factor night temps into the average this is pretty warm.



I'm with you, brother. Farking summer's in Texas are always hot. National news that Chicago got up to 95 two days in a row, boo farking hoo.

Texas is hot.

Real hot.

Africa hot.

Tarzan couldn't take this kind of hot.
 
2012-08-08 03:45:22 PM

swaxhog: What was 1936's excuse for multi-year drought and above average temperature?


The evidence points to tropical SST variability which affected precipitation and temperature patterns over the area in question[1]. The drought wasn't the most severe (when reconstructions are taken into consideration) but was the most severe to hit during growing season[2]. This, coupled with the agricultural practices of the time (which displaced drought-resistant crops and dramatically favored erosion), created moisture deficits which exacerbated the tropical SST-driven warming[3].

The role of tropical SST variability (related to ENSO, AMO, etc.) on drought in the Americas is pretty hard to overstate.

[1] Schubert, S. D., M. J. Suarez, P. J. Pegion, R. D. Koster, and J. T. Bacmeister (2004), On the Cause of the 1930s Dust Bowl, Science, 303(5665), 1855-1859, doi:10.1126/science.1095048.
[2] Burnette, D., and D. Stahle (n.d.), Historical perspective on the dust bowl drought in the central United States, Climatic Change, 1-16, doi:10.1007/s10584-012-0525-2.
[3] Cook, B. I., R. L. Miller, and R. Seager (2009), Amplification of the North American "Dust Bowl" drought through human-induced land degradation, PNAS, 106(13), 4997-5001, doi:10.1073/pnas.0810200106.
 
2012-08-08 03:54:07 PM

justGreg: This story is about the Lower 48 states, not the globe. The United States is 6% of the area of the globe, but that includes the 16% of the United States that is Alaska, which had a colder than average July. So if there was ever a story about weather != climate, this is probably it.


First summer in 23 years I haven't removed the liner from my riding gear. Usually I get a couple weeks of warm riding, at least.

/moving into the rainy season now
//yay
 
2012-08-08 03:54:48 PM

Jon Snow: The evidence points to tropical SST variability


SST = Super Sassy Transgendered AGWers.
 
2012-08-08 04:00:48 PM

justGreg: if there was ever a story about weather != climate, this is probably it.


If this were just a discussion about a single month for CONUS, you would have a point. But in the overall context of climatic change, this is not just a single hot July, it's a sustained warming which is inline with the multidecadal global trend.

/it's probably getting warmer

It is unquestionably getting warmer on relevant spatio-temporal scales.

//CO2 is probably a contributing factor to that

CO2 is unquestionably the main driver of the overall warming for at least the past several decades.

///GCMs are a joke

All models are wrong, some are useful. GCMs can spin up TCs and other synoptic-and-smaller scale phenomena as emergent behavior. They realistically reproduce the major features of the atmosphere's general circulation. They are not perfect, but they are useful. That you believe otherwise indicates that you're either unfamiliar with the field in question, or a deluded partisan.

////we aren't all going to die

We are, but few of us on Fark will in a way related to anthropogenic climate change, given its demographics.
 
2012-08-08 04:08:12 PM

wildstarr: ONLY 77.6 degrees?!?!

I hate the Texas heat. I'm sure our July average in the D/FW area was 101.

/I guess when you factor night temps into the average this is pretty warm.


and if you're in Houston, you have to deal with the nasty pea soup that is humidity.

I lived in Austin for 10 years, and it's hot, but the humidity isn't AS bad. The wife finally has opened up to the idea of moving the fark out of this city.

Where is she willing to move to?

Florida.

Ugh...that doesn't do me any favors when dealing with the humidity.
 
2012-08-08 04:10:15 PM

Spanky3woods: Farking summer's in Texas are always hot. National news that Chicago got up to 95 two days in a row, boo farking hoo.


Granted it's not Texas heat, but we've had way more than 2 days of 95+ degree weather. Keep in mind the average temperature is in the mid-80s (as I said, we're not competing with Texas heat, but it's been bad):

blog.chicagoweathercenter.com

Texas is supposed to be this hot, the rest of the country isn't. It's like saying if Texas got down to the 20s during the winter with blizzards, and we were like, "boo farking hoo". Perspective.
 
2012-08-08 04:14:02 PM
It killed my A/C in a summer where I'm already paying for a new roof, new siding, major maintenance on the car, all following a major hobby investment.

I feel so poor.
 
2012-08-08 04:14:18 PM
Que the walls of charts and citations in Courier font.
 
2012-08-08 04:18:30 PM

Fish in a Barrel: It killed my A/C in a summer where I'm already paying for a new roof, new siding, major maintenance on the car, all following a major hobby investment.

I feel so poor.


Home Warranty...man that thing has saved us...A/C goes out maybe once a year here.
 
2012-08-08 04:19:51 PM

Fish in a Barrel: It killed my A/C in a summer where I'm already paying for a new roof, new siding, major maintenance on the car, all following a major hobby investment.

I feel so poor.


It's ok.
The economy has been hardening like concrete around our feet since about 2005.
The weather gives us something to chat about.

Obama will lead us out of the morass.
Or Rmoney.
If Algore really thought he could do any good, he would be president now.
 
2012-08-08 04:21:54 PM

Car_Ramrod: Spanky3woods: Farking summer's in Texas are always hot. National news that Chicago got up to 95 two days in a row, boo farking hoo.

Granted it's not Texas heat, but we've had way more than 2 days of 95+ degree weather. Keep in mind the average temperature is in the mid-80s (as I said, we're not competing with Texas heat, but it's been bad):

[blog.chicagoweathercenter.com image 850x519]

Texas is supposed to be this hot, the rest of the country isn't. It's like saying if Texas got down to the 20s during the winter with blizzards, and we were like, "boo farking hoo". Perspective.


I know, I know. I just like biatching about the weather. No slight intended towards Chicago.

And yes, we did shut down the whole city when a puny ice storm put a quarter inch on the roadways
 
2012-08-08 04:31:23 PM
July 2012 was not the hottest month on record it was almost identical to July 1912. Here's just a few days of headlines from July 1912. I could post one of almost everyday in July 1912 but I'm lazy

Torrid Weather In Middle West

Many Die From Heat In Eastern States

Heat Causes Five More Deaths In Chicago & look at the 5 stories directly below. SF having a normal summer wow just like this year

Money is Needed at Once To Save Babies During the Heat

Heat Closes Boston Stores
 
2012-08-08 04:32:52 PM
It snowed in Johannesburg so this means nothing.

s1.reutersmedia.net

Johannesburg snow fulfils couple's white wedding dream

The snowfall was the first in Johannesburg in five years and the heaviest since 1981. Newspapers ran front-page photographs of snow-clad palm trees and a lion sitting disconsolately in its enclosure at Johannesburg zoo with snow gathering in its mane.

Where is Billy Idol?
 
2012-08-08 04:33:08 PM

FinFangFark: Fish in a Barrel: It killed my A/C in a summer where I'm already paying for a new roof, new siding, major maintenance on the car, all following a major hobby investment.

I feel so poor.

Home Warranty...man that thing has saved us...A/C goes out maybe once a year here.


I had a home warranty when I bought the house, and it didn't seem like it was worth the hassle. They were the most tight-fisted, drown-you-in-paperwork insurance company I've ever dealt with.

I was planning on replacing the A/C soon anyhow. I went whole-hog in the new system and got a SEER 20.5 heat pump and hybrid furnace. It is pretty sweet. It's so quiet! And smart! I was just hoping to have another six months or so to save up for it.

No winter dive trip to the Caribbean for me this year. :(
 
2012-08-08 04:34:27 PM

borg: I could post one of almost everyday in July 1912 but I'm lazy


You meant to say that "I not insane." right?
 
2012-08-08 04:52:06 PM

Fish in a Barrel: It killed my A/C in a summer where I'm already paying for a new roof, new siding, major maintenance on the car, all following a major hobby investment.

I feel so poor.


Same here: new A/C and furnace, improved ductwork, new windows plus more insulation. Killed the wallet short-term but appears to saving me.
 
2012-08-08 04:53:38 PM
Yes, there is Global Warming, and i fully place blame on the Libbies. I mean, they are the ones who are supposed to be doing something about all this.
 
2012-08-08 04:57:03 PM

Jon Snow: swaxhog: What was 1936's excuse for multi-year drought and above average temperature?

The evidence points to tropical SST variability which affected precipitation and temperature patterns over the area in question[1]. The drought wasn't the most severe (when reconstructions are taken into consideration) but was the most severe to hit during growing season[2]. This, coupled with the agricultural practices of the time (which displaced drought-resistant crops and dramatically favored erosion), created moisture deficits which exacerbated the tropical SST-driven warming[3].

The role of tropical SST variability (related to ENSO, AMO, etc.) on drought in the Americas is pretty hard to overstate.

[1] Schubert, S. D., M. J. Suarez, P. J. Pegion, R. D. Koster, and J. T. Bacmeister (2004), On the Cause of the 1930s Dust Bowl, Science, 303(5665), 1855-1859, doi:10.1126/science.1095048.
[2] Burnette, D., and D. Stahle (n.d.), Historical perspective on the dust bowl drought in the central United States, Climatic Change, 1-16, doi:10.1007/s10584-012-0525-2.
[3] Cook, B. I., R. L. Miller, and R. Seager (2009), Amplification of the North American "Dust Bowl" drought through human-induced land degradation, PNAS, 106(13), 4997-5001, doi:10.1073/pnas.0810200106.


Serious question:

What was going on in Mexico and California, since both have essentially year-round growing seasons?
 
2012-08-08 04:58:49 PM

mjohnson71: Fish in a Barrel: It killed my A/C in a summer where I'm already paying for a new roof, new siding, major maintenance on the car, all following a major hobby investment.

I feel so poor.

Same here: new A/C and furnace, improved ductwork, new windows plus more insulation. Killed the wallet short-term but appears to saving me.


I replaced my original 1964 single pane, aluminum framed windows two years ago. Who the hell thought aluminum was a good material to use for window frames? During the winter it felt like the windows were barely there! Now I just need to upgrade the ~3 inches of insulation in the attic. And if I switch to a high-efficiency water heater, I'll be able to get rid of the roof flue!
 
2012-08-08 04:59:03 PM
Yeah, but it's only temporary until all the glaciers melt, effectively shutting down the gulf stream. At that point get ready for another Ice Age.

Link
 
2012-08-08 05:02:20 PM
HotIgneous Intruder:

SST = Super Sassy Transgendered AGWers.

Is there something you're trying to tell us here?


/NTTAWWT

wildstarr:

ONLY 77.6 degrees?!?!

I hate the Texas heat. I'm sure our July average in the D/FW area was 101.

/I guess when you factor night temps into the average this is pretty warm


I'm visiting a friend in DFW at the moment... It's been 100+ for weeks, although the powers what be *did* drop 1/32" of rain a few hours ago.
 
2012-08-08 05:14:14 PM

Shazam999: What was going on in Mexico and California, since both have essentially year-round growing seasons?


Not sure what you're asking. "What was going on" as in were they affected at all, or "what was going on" in as they were affected but should have been buffered from drought due to a diminished vegetation/soil/dust response?

If the former, yes California and Mexico still had drought in the 30s. If the latter, they're very sensitive to the temp/precip changes due to tropical sea surface temperature variability, even more so than the midwest. Mexico had decades if not century long megadroughts due to such changes (i.e. persistently positive-AMO-like conditions in the tropical Atlantic and persistently La Niña-like conditions in the tropical Pacific) during medieval times. In other words, poor farming practices aren't necessary for tropical SST variability to push those regions into drought.
 
2012-08-08 05:15:15 PM

mark12A: Meanwhile, in Britain....

Will we ever get a summer? Who knows? Forecasters are reluctant to go into too much detail for more than 48 hours ahead and the Met Office is extremely cautious in its look ahead to the end of September.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jul/10/forecasters-predictions-summ e r-rain-july

It's more of a polar oscillation thang, really....

/it will flip cold after I've moved to New Hampshire and haven't bought a snowblower yet


Meanwhile in Alaska and Canada: Coldest July on record!

The air current that used to push cold air south now pushes it east/west. Probably has something to do with all those wind turbines. Deal with it.
 
2012-08-08 05:19:39 PM
Jon Snow:

Shazam999: What was going on in Mexico and California, since both have essentially year-round growing seasons?

Not sure what you're asking. "What was going on" as in were they affected at all, or "what was going on" in as they were affected but should have been buffered from drought due to a diminished vegetation/soil/dust response?

If the former, yes California and Mexico still had drought in the 30s. If the latter, they're very sensitive to the temp/precip changes due to tropical sea surface temperature variability, even more so than the midwest. Mexico had decades if not century long megadroughts due to such changes (i.e. persistently positive-AMO-like conditions in the tropical Atlantic and persistently La Niña-like conditions in the tropical Pacific) during medieval times. In other words, poor farming practices aren't necessary for tropical SST variability to push those regions into drought.


As an aside, I found it interesting in reading about the Dust Bowl how people used some of the same arguments we here today, to wit:

Gummint Ag rep: "You know, you need to change the way you plow, if we have a drought your entire farm is going to blow away if you keep doing it that way."

Farmer Smith: "Yeah, right, egghaid... If I do it your way I'd have to raise my price 1 cent per bushel... And Farmer Jones isn't going to do it, and he'll run me out of business because of it."

Somehow this seems familiar....
 
2012-08-08 05:21:17 PM

smimmy: Yeah, but it's only temporary until all the glaciers melt, effectively shutting down the gulf stream. At that point get ready for another Ice Age.

Link


Did people driving SUVs cause the last ice age too?
 
2012-08-08 05:21:41 PM

Jon Snow: Shazam999: What was going on in Mexico and California, since both have essentially year-round growing seasons?

Not sure what you're asking. "What was going on" as in were they affected at all, or "what was going on" in as they were affected but should have been buffered from drought due to a diminished vegetation/soil/dust response?

If the former, yes California and Mexico still had drought in the 30s. If the latter, they're very sensitive to the temp/precip changes due to tropical sea surface temperature variability, even more so than the midwest. Mexico had decades if not century long megadroughts due to such changes (i.e. persistently positive-AMO-like conditions in the tropical Atlantic and persistently La Niña-like conditions in the tropical Pacific) during medieval times. In other words, poor farming practices aren't necessary for tropical SST variability to push those regions into drought.


Well, if you're talking growing seasons, when it's January in Kansas, they ain't growing squat, but Mexico and California are. So what was happening over there?
 
2012-08-08 05:22:38 PM
Trolltastic headline ftw.

Remember when the Sahara Desert was a huge lake/wetland?
 
2012-08-08 05:23:20 PM

maxheck: Jon Snow:

Shazam999: What was going on in Mexico and California, since both have essentially year-round growing seasons?

Not sure what you're asking. "What was going on" as in were they affected at all, or "what was going on" in as they were affected but should have been buffered from drought due to a diminished vegetation/soil/dust response?

If the former, yes California and Mexico still had drought in the 30s. If the latter, they're very sensitive to the temp/precip changes due to tropical sea surface temperature variability, even more so than the midwest. Mexico had decades if not century long megadroughts due to such changes (i.e. persistently positive-AMO-like conditions in the tropical Atlantic and persistently La Niña-like conditions in the tropical Pacific) during medieval times. In other words, poor farming practices aren't necessary for tropical SST variability to push those regions into drought.

As an aside, I found it interesting in reading about the Dust Bowl how people used some of the same arguments we here today, to wit:

Gummint Ag rep: "You know, you need to change the way you plow, if we have a drought your entire farm is going to blow away if you keep doing it that way."

Farmer Smith: "Yeah, right, egghaid... If I do it your way I'd have to raise my price 1 cent per bushel... And Farmer Jones isn't going to do it, and he'll run me out of business because of it."

Somehow this seems familiar....


Actually, farmers have changed their methods. Most now utilize no-till, because well, tilling destroys soil. Leftover vegetative matter is left to compost on the fields, protecting the soil, and most now leave some fields fallow for at least one season.
 
2012-08-08 05:26:39 PM
Bullseyed:

smimmy: Yeah, but it's only temporary until all the glaciers melt, effectively shutting down the gulf stream. At that point get ready for another Ice Age.

Link

Did people driving SUVs cause the last ice age too?


Did you know that forest fires happened before the advent of matches? It's true! So go ahead and toss that lit cigarette... Whatever follows won't be your doing!

You may be speaking in dumbassese here.
 
2012-08-08 05:30:16 PM
We had really good weather this July. Might of been hotter but a lot less humid than recent memory. I guess we're out of ground water then?
 
2012-08-08 05:30:55 PM
Shazam999:

Actually, farmers have changed their methods. Most now utilize no-till, because well, tilling destroys soil. Leftover vegetative matter is left to compost on the fields, protecting the soil, and most now leave some fields fallow for at least one season.


I know... And guess *when* they did it. The Dust Bowl did a lot for agriculture in much the same sense that world wars do for other technology... It takes a grand farkup to make people think "Oh... Should I have not done that? Was that wrong?"
 
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