Therion: Moral of the story: "No capes!"
AdolfOliverPanties: Rightwing storyline? I must have missed that part. Great movie though.
AdolfOliverPanties: Rightwing storyline? I must have missed that part.
damageddude: Also, he really should have been on Homeland Security's watch list long before he unleashed his robot killers.
salvador.hardin: Mr. Incredible was on food stamps and welfare, did anyone help him out? No. No.
bluecrabscribe: Elastigirl gave me the weirdest boner. That's what I got out of it.
MadCat221: The gist I got from that scene was that Buddy has been a pain in Mr. I's butt for a long time before that point.
Sim Tree: I believe he's referring to the line "It's not a graduation! He's moving from the 4th grade to the 5th grade. We keep coming up with new ways to celebrate mediocrity, but if someone is actually good at something ... let him try out for sports!"It does sound rather Randian in retrospect, something I hadn't noticed until just now.
Blues_X: bluecrabscribe: Elastigirl gave me the weirdest boner. That's what I got out of it.I just did a GIS for Elastigirl, and evidently you are not alone.
JokerMattly: /"Becoming rich" is not a great thing.
LawrencePerson: "Syndrome Obama never actually kills anyone himself. His robot is guns are responsible for the deaths of about a dozen superheroes 300 Mexicans, but it's not as if he hunted them down in cold blood. They were offered good money for the opportunity to be heroes again (now an illegal activity), and they took it. Every last one turned out to be incapable of defeating the robot drug lords. They could have just stayed home. It's not as if Syndrome Obama unleashed the robot on a major city guns illegally and then claimed executive privilege on all the subpoenaed documents."
Witty_Retort: Let me try:A Leftist Intellectual, Syndrome, is out to give a chance for all people to be equal, by giving (selling, but mass production and IP infringement would drive costs down eventually) the "undeserving" super suits. He also tries to accomplish this by murdering the 1%'s he feel will further his goals.The Great Right Hope manages to reinstate the status quo by destroying him with his own foofery (his cape), thus ensuring that the 99% cannot achieve the powers that would give them equality./am now depressed that I may think of this next time I watch it//or, it could be a proof that an action movie could still have a good plot and characters and emotion
kroonermanblack: bluecrabscribe: Elastigirl gave me the weirdest boner. That's what I got out of it.Not all that odd. Lots of guys sexually idealize tiny, flexible, women, for unnatural sexual activities etc. it's been an ongoing thing for centuries at least.It's also why she was the mom, and not the daughter, heh.
thecpt: OK, but it's not like its expressing uber red themes or anything. 4th grade graduation is farking ridiculous.
Lyonid: AdolfOliverPanties: Rightwing storyline? I must have missed that part. Great movie though.You have to want it.The Incredibles are a classic Nuclear Family -- ZOMG! Traditionalist propaganda. Right wing!Helen Parr is a homemaker -- ZOMG! Chauvinist oppression. Right wing!No openly gay characters -- ZOMG! Intolerance. Right wing!Only the villain relies on technology -- ZOMG! Anti-science. Right wing!etc.
TheOriginalEd: Seriously. dont be an apologist for that shiat. "I WANT TO HELP" Is in no way a substitute for "can help". Anyone who's had a toddler fark something up and go "IM HELPING" knows this. In my experience the help you didnt ask for causes more problems than the problem you were trying to solve. If buddy wanted to be helpful he would have offered his services. Not gotten in the way. As it was he was a self aggrandizing arrogant little jerk even as a child. Does Mr Incredible handle it in a really crappy way? Yeah but it plays into the whole theme of the "super heroes are people too" in the movie. It doesnt excuse buddy's actions.
Snapper Carr: AdolfOliverPanties: Rightwing storyline? I must have missed that part.It's pretty Randian if you want to look at it in that way.
Some 'Splainin' To Do: There's some lines in the movie that Objectivists have latched on to. Notably, the one about how if everyone were super, no one would be super. Some read that as a Randian shout out.
farkeruk: thecpt: OK, but it's not like its expressing uber red themes or anything. 4th grade graduation is farking ridiculous.Brad Bird is on record as saying it's not Randian, but that he has a problem with mediocrity being celebrated.
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