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(The Daily Dolt)   New ad: Mitt Romney killed a woman. We have apparently reached the point in political discourse where we are calling presidential candidates murderers   (thedailydolt.com) divider line 440
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2012-08-08 07:39:47 AM
by the end of the week, Obama will have raped a woman just so he could personally abort the resulting fetus.
 
2012-08-08 07:43:16 AM

ManateeGag: by the end of the week, Obama will have raped a woman just so he could personally abort the resulting fetus.


I call Obamaloney on that. Nahnahnahnahnah!!!

See what we did there? We just had a political discourse.
 
2012-08-08 07:53:20 AM
Before we only called their wives murderers.

/vince foster
 
2012-08-08 08:02:56 AM
So that's what really happened in 1990.
 
2012-08-08 08:04:33 AM
 
2012-08-08 08:25:59 AM

CPT Ethanolic: Before we only called their wives murderers.

/vince foster


You're forgetting all those people Bill had killed in Arkansas to support his drug smuggling.

When that was going on, I thought: "This is about a crazy as the Right Wing can get." And then it started to get weird.
 
2012-08-08 08:27:07 AM

Ennuipoet: CPT Ethanolic: Before we only called their wives murderers.

/vince foster

You're forgetting all those people Bill had killed in Arkansas to support his drug smuggling.

When that was going on, I thought: "This is about a crazy as the Right Wing can get." And then it started to get weird.


No, see those really happened! Drudge told me so!
 
2012-08-08 08:29:28 AM
Nice to see the dolt deliberately misinterpret the commercial to create some GOP outrage. The commercial quite rightly shows the consequences of plant closing and the very real effects those closings have on average Americans. Romney has repeatedly shown that he thinks closing plants and putting people out of work is perfectly acceptable, and he has never shown even the slightest understanding of the impact of those decisions.
 
2012-08-08 08:30:14 AM
You mean like how the right was saying Obama was going to murder your grandparents with his Death Panels?

Or that the taxpayers were the Jews for his ovens?
 
2012-08-08 08:30:46 AM
Romney didn't build that cancer!
 
2012-08-08 08:32:41 AM
Yeah, because Clinton was NEVER accused of murder...
 
2012-08-08 08:35:24 AM
So, real-world consequences of the actions companies like Bain use to further enrich their already extremely wealthy clientele are not worth talking about?

We can talk about jobs, we can talk about taxes and we can talk about health care-but only from the perspective of cost-yet we can't talk about what happens to people when people like Romney make a whole career of ripping value from otherwise healthy industries, leaving the rotting corpse behind for someone else to clean up? Sure, it is apparently legal, no doubt. But ethics should count for something. And a failure of ethics will sometimes have a consequence to the nation and the people that isn't represented on a balance sheet.
 
2012-08-08 08:41:01 AM
I can't wait for this to go live on farklite.
 
2012-08-08 08:44:51 AM
The ad does not say Romney killed the guys wife it says he does not give a flying Fark what his profit margin means to your family
 
2012-08-08 08:45:57 AM

El_Frijole_Blanco: The ad does not say Romney killed the guys wife it says he does not give a flying Fark what his profit margin means to your family


And the ad is absolutely correct.
 
2012-08-08 08:46:26 AM
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"Finally?"
 
2012-08-08 08:48:06 AM

dr_blasto: El_Frijole_Blanco: The ad does not say Romney killed the guys wife it says he does not give a flying Fark what his profit margin means to your family

And the ad is absolutely correct.


Which is why the GOP turned the derp up to 12 to try to discredit it.
 
2012-08-08 08:51:00 AM
Oh, the horror! How dare they show that business decisions don't exist in a vacuum!

Let me ask you this, highhorsemitter: What in that ad was false?

Not a damn thing.

Meanwhile, poor, victimized Romney is running ad after ad based on lies.
 
2012-08-08 08:53:39 AM

GAT_00: dr_blasto: El_Frijole_Blanco: The ad does not say Romney killed the guys wife it says he does not give a flying Fark what his profit margin means to your family

And the ad is absolutely correct.

Which is why the GOP turned the derp up to 12 to try to discredit it.


But that's all they have. DERP. No substance, no ideas, no plan. Romney perfectly represents them--devoid of personality, unwilling to put the work in as required to actually govern. They believe they're entitled to govern be in charge. Thankfully, they're dying off; unfortunately they are most dangerous in their death throes.
 
2012-08-08 08:55:20 AM
For such a tough, uncompromising captain of industry, he sure gets whiny when presented with the consequences of his business decisions.
 
2012-08-08 09:04:33 AM

El_Frijole_Blanco: The ad does not say Romney killed the guys wife it says he does not give a flying Fark what his profit margin means to your family


Based on the "logic" this ad uses: this guy could just as well blame the management of the steel mill that caused it to be unprofitable, which caused Bain to come in and make it profitable again. Why didn't the management of that steel company care enough to keep that mill open and save that man's wife?
 
2012-08-08 09:07:30 AM

Lsherm: El_Frijole_Blanco: The ad does not say Romney killed the guys wife it says he does not give a flying Fark what his profit margin means to your family

Based on the "logic" this ad uses: this guy could just as well blame the management of the steel mill that caused it to be unprofitable, which caused Bain to come in and make it profitable again. Why didn't the management of that steel company care enough to keep that mill open and save that man's wife?


There's a difference between simply starting a slide, business-wise, and deliberate, willful destruction.
 
2012-08-08 09:07:31 AM
Approves:

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2012-08-08 09:10:51 AM
I dislike Romney as much as anyone, but is it really necessary to go all "...because a little bug went ka-choo!" with this stuff?
 
2012-08-08 09:13:53 AM

Lsherm: El_Frijole_Blanco: The ad does not say Romney killed the guys wife it says he does not give a flying Fark what his profit margin means to your family

Based on the "logic" this ad uses: this guy could just as well blame the management of the steel mill that caused it to be unprofitable, which caused Bain to come in and make it profitable again. Why didn't the management of that steel company care enough to keep that mill open and save that man's wife?


The company was profitable until Bain loaded it up with debt.
 
2012-08-08 09:15:38 AM

kronicfeld: I dislike Romney as much as anyone, but is it really necessary to go all "...because a little bug went ka-choo!" with this stuff?


This isn't some butterfly effect bullshiat. When people don't get proper health care they die.
 
2012-08-08 09:15:44 AM
I wouldn't call it murder.

Depraved indifference, definately.

In fact, I would say that "Depraved indifference" is a great descriptor of the Republican Party.
 
2012-08-08 09:18:12 AM

LRA61380: ManateeGag: by the end of the week, Obama will have raped a woman just so he could personally abort the resulting fetus.

I call Obamaloney on that. Nahnahnahnahnah!!!

See what we did there? We just had a political discourse.


I stepped in some political discourse the other day. Damn assholes who don't clean up after their dogs.
 
2012-08-08 09:21:40 AM
 
2012-08-08 09:21:45 AM

Wendy's Chili: Lsherm: El_Frijole_Blanco: The ad does not say Romney killed the guys wife it says he does not give a flying Fark what his profit margin means to your family

Based on the "logic" this ad uses: this guy could just as well blame the management of the steel mill that caused it to be unprofitable, which caused Bain to come in and make it profitable again. Why didn't the management of that steel company care enough to keep that mill open and save that man's wife?

The company was profitable until Bain loaded it up with debt.


That was their M.O. They found that buying out companies with good credit, whether they were profitable or not, allowed them to max out that credit to pay themselves usurious management fees. The company, now overloaded with debt, is cast off in bankruptcy and the state/local governments left to pay for the cleanup.
 
2012-08-08 09:28:40 AM

El_Frijole_Blanco: The ad does not say Romney killed the guys wife it says he does not give a flying Fark what his profit margin means to your family


Came in to say this.
 
2012-08-08 09:33:19 AM
In other news: folks like to dumb down issues.

The ad shows consequences to actions taken. Actions that Mitt likes to downplay, because they don't put him in the best light. Actions have consequences. Mitt doesn't like consequences, or to take responsibility for his actions.
 
2012-08-08 09:34:02 AM
FTFA

The problem with Mitt Romney is that he is running on his experience at Bain Capital, and the problem with Bain Capital is that it caused a lot of people to lose their jobs while making a small number of privileged individuals very rich. When the plant got shut down, everyone was running around all "Oh my God, we're all going to be unemployed" not "Oh my God, we're all gonna die!!" So let's maybe stick with the fairer line of attack: Romney wants to enact policies that will lead to unemployment, further inequality, and less freedom of opportunity.
 
2012-08-08 09:44:41 AM

GAT_00: dr_blasto: El_Frijole_Blanco: The ad does not say Romney killed the guys wife it says he does not give a flying Fark what his profit margin means to your family

And the ad is absolutely correct.

Which is why the GOP turned the derp up to 12 to try to discredit it.


The only derp worse than the derp contained in a political ad is the derp of a backlash that the opposing side makes against it.

/ The "jungle drums" ad of 2006 still holds the record in my opinion though.
 
2012-08-08 09:45:22 AM

ManateeGag: by the end of the week, Obama will have raped a woman just so he could personally abort the resulting fetus.


You should have seen the ads during the MA governor race a few years ago. Kerry Healey (Romney's lieutenant governor) pretty much accused Deval Patrick of being a rapist.
 
2012-08-08 09:45:27 AM
He destroyed plenty of lives to be sure but "murder" isn't the correct term. "Murder" is lobbing missiles into a country knowing full well that you're going to kill civilians. So if God forbid he is elected President, he'll be responsible for murder in due time but not yet.
 
2012-08-08 10:21:48 AM
The thing is, a lot of companies Bain invested in were already in a lot of trouble before Bain stepped in. If Bain hadn't invested in them and then fired some employees, the companies would have gone out of business and the same people would have lost their jobs and health insurance anyways. The option was between firing some people or everybody losing their job. It wasn't like if Bain hadn't stepped in the company was going to the magical land of pots of gold and chocolate at the end of rainbows for every employee.
 
2012-08-08 10:26:01 AM

serial_crusher: GAT_00: dr_blasto: El_Frijole_Blanco: The ad does not say Romney killed the guys wife it says he does not give a flying Fark what his profit margin means to your family

And the ad is absolutely correct.

Which is why the GOP turned the derp up to 12 to try to discredit it.

The only derp worse than the derp contained in a political ad is the derp of a backlash that the opposing side makes against it.

/ The "jungle drums" ad of 2006 still holds the record in my opinion though.


So it's only derp when Democrats do it. Right.
 
2012-08-08 10:29:16 AM

Wendy's Chili: kronicfeld: I dislike Romney as much as anyone, but is it really necessary to go all "...because a little bug went ka-choo!" with this stuff?

This isn't some butterfly effect bullshiat. When people don't get proper health care they die.


Yes, but she died in 2006, when Romney had been governor for four years.

He had nothing to do with Bain at that point. The ad is misleading.
 
2012-08-08 10:35:36 AM

SlothB77: The thing is, a lot of companies Bain invested in were already in a lot of trouble before Bain stepped in. If Bain hadn't invested in them and then fired some employees, the companies would have gone out of business and the same people would have lost their jobs and health insurance anyways. The option was between firing some people or everybody losing their job. It wasn't like if Bain hadn't stepped in the company was going to the magical land of pots of gold and chocolate at the end of rainbows for every employee.


An apologist for them and Romney's business practices, really? Wow.
 
2012-08-08 10:48:29 AM

GAT_00: serial_crusher: GAT_00: dr_blasto: El_Frijole_Blanco: The ad does not say Romney killed the guys wife it says he does not give a flying Fark what his profit margin means to your family

And the ad is absolutely correct.

Which is why the GOP turned the derp up to 12 to try to discredit it.

The only derp worse than the derp contained in a political ad is the derp of a backlash that the opposing side makes against it.

/ The "jungle drums" ad of 2006 still holds the record in my opinion though.

So it's only derp when Democrats do it. Right.


I really don't see how you could have read it that way, since I was agreeing that the GOP backlash to this one counts as derp, unless you're accusing the GOP of being populated by Democrats....

I'm just saying the Democrats are better at derp. Well, the "get overly offended by something trivial" kind of derp anyhow. Republicans probably still have more medals overall, but this is one event the Democrats take every election year.
 
2012-08-08 10:50:20 AM

gilgigamesh: Wendy's Chili: kronicfeld: I dislike Romney as much as anyone, but is it really necessary to go all "...because a little bug went ka-choo!" with this stuff?

This isn't some butterfly effect bullshiat. When people don't get proper health care they die.

Yes, but she died in 2006, when Romney had been governor for four years.

He had nothing to do with Bain at that point. The ad is misleading.


Bain didn't kill her in 2006. Cancer killed her. Cancer that might have been caught early enough to do something about if Bain hadn't destroyed her husband's company with business decisions made while Romney was running the show.
 
2012-08-08 10:51:28 AM
I'm just waiting for the Pretty Woman ads comparing Romney to Richard Gere's character who "doesn't make anything" he just buys and sells companies...and hires women.
 
2012-08-08 10:52:12 AM

SlothB77: The thing is, a lot of companies Bain invested in were already in a lot of trouble before Bain stepped in. If Bain hadn't invested in them and then fired some employees, the companies would have gone out of business and the same people would have lost their jobs and health insurance anyways. The option was between firing some people or everybody losing their job. It wasn't like if Bain hadn't stepped in the company was going to the magical land of pots of gold and chocolate at the end of rainbows for every employee.


You are right, some of the companies would have gone out of business anyway, or some other company like Bain would have taken over.

What about KB toys, though?
 
2012-08-08 10:53:33 AM

I_C_Weener: comparing Romney to Richard Gere's character who "doesn't make anything" he just buys and sells companies...and hires women.


I always thought more along the lines of

encrypted-tbn3.google.com
 
2012-08-08 10:54:01 AM

SlothB77: The thing is, a lot of companies Bain invested in were already in a lot of trouble before Bain stepped in. If Bain hadn't invested in them and then fired some employees, the companies would have gone out of business and the same people would have lost their jobs and health insurance anyways. The option was between firing some people or everybody losing their job. It wasn't like if Bain hadn't stepped in the company was going to the magical land of pots of gold and chocolate at the end of rainbows for every employee.


The thing is, a lot of companies Bain invested in were in decent shape. Had they never met these vampires, those companies may have continued to experience success and maintained or even expanded their staffing levels and salaries. The option was for the owners to cash out to vampire capitalists or continue to reward the loyalty of their employees. It wasn't like if Bain hadn't been around, they couldn't sell to legitimate investors who were interested in maintaining that company.
 
2012-08-08 10:55:37 AM
Someone should make a campaign ad where it shows a candidate covering a person in gasoline and setting them on fire.
 
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2012-08-08 10:56:14 AM

Wendy's Chili: Lsherm: El_Frijole_Blanco: The ad does not say Romney killed the guys wife it says he does not give a flying Fark what his profit margin means to your family

Based on the "logic" this ad uses: this guy could just as well blame the management of the steel mill that caused it to be unprofitable, which caused Bain to come in and make it profitable again. Why didn't the management of that steel company care enough to keep that mill open and save that man's wife?

The company was profitable until Bain loaded it up with debt.


Bain invested $8m in GST Steel to gain control, then had GST issue $125m in bonds to finance a dividend of $65million, 36.1m of which went to Bain.
 
2012-08-08 11:00:38 AM

vernonFL: I_C_Weener: comparing Romney to Richard Gere's character who "doesn't make anything" he just buys and sells companies...and hires women.

I always thought more along the lines of

[encrypted-tbn3.google.com image 275x183]


Gecko had more spine.
 
2012-08-08 11:02:17 AM

Aarontology: Someone should make a campaign ad where it shows a candidate covering a person in gasoline and setting them on fire.


Voting for Mitt Romney is like taking your Vietnamese gardener and setting them on fire like the monks during the war that Mitt Romney avoided fighting in.

[Obama lights gardener on fire]

I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message.
 
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